[06:34] <magic_silver_box> UNITOR NO WORKY
[06:34] <magic_silver_box> ~~~~~~~::/
[08:35] <cfhowlett> Change the login icon: I'm running Ubuntustudio 12.04.  Want to customize the default login icon
[09:09] <cfhowlett> How do I change the login icon in Ubuntustudio 12.04  http://imagebin.org/249823
[09:10] <zequence> cfhowlett: Don't have lightgdm installed on this machine, but if I would make a wild guess, there might be configs in /etc/lightgdm/*
[09:12] <cfhowlett> zequence, I found that.  there's nothing in there that directs to an icon ...
[09:13] <cfhowlett> shame because this is the replacement icon ... http://imagebin.org/249824
[09:14] <SunStar> i dont wanna log out to try it but perhapse this will work?
[09:15] <SunStar> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1585548#post1585548
[09:16] <cfhowlett> SunStar, I'll look again.  It appears to be a specific lightdm config ...
[09:19] <zequence> cfhowlett: Cool looking icon in deed
[09:20] <cfhowlett> zequence, yep.  now to incorporate it ...
[09:20] <cfhowlett> zequence, hey I sent a couple of wallpaper suggestions to the list. did you see?
[09:21] <SunStar> lol you can just rename it to the current icon
[09:21] <zequence> cfhowlett: Not yet, but we actually already went ahead and changed the default, adding the two I did. This is for the Beta 1, which is to be built later today
[09:21] <cfhowlett> zequence, OK ...
[09:22] <cfhowlett> zequence, I install LTS only, but I have been know to harvest artwork from interim releases.  Of course, "rolling release" or whatever happens ...
[09:22] <SunStar> i mean replace the old icon with your new one by renameing the old one to something else, and the new one uses the old ones name
[09:22] <cfhowlett> SunStar, right method, but wrong greeter program.  I need to configure lightDM ...
[09:26] <SunStar> try adding "Icon=/path/to/image" into file:///var/lib/lightdm/.cache/lightdm-gtk-greeter/state ?
[09:27] <SunStar> no that doesnt seem right n/m
[11:29] <mano> hi
[11:36] <mano> hi
[11:39] <zequence> mano: hello
[11:40] <mano> may u help me plz . iam gonna destroy my laptop if u don't
[11:41] <zequence> mano: I hardly think your laptop will be destroyed by Linux, but tell us, what seems to be the problem?
[11:42] <mano> i loved LINUX very much it's very smart easy and fast .... i am a music producer recently sed ubuntu studio to have the chance to try ardour ...... qJACKctl is making me crazy don't wanna work
[11:42] <mano> always : ERROR ERROR EROOR
[11:43] <zequence> mano: There's a bug with jackdbus. Makes it crash often, when you try to stop it
[11:43] <zequence> mano: When that happens, kill it in a terminal, like this: killall -9 jackdbus
[11:43] <zequence> Then try again
[11:43] <zequence> Also, make sure you aren't using desktop audio, while trying to start jack.
[11:43] <zequence> Close down all pulseaudio applications
[11:43] <mano> the problem isn't that it don't wanna stop .. it deosn't even work
[11:44] <zequence> ..this is, if you are using the same audio card with pulseaudio and jack
[11:44] <zequence> mano: Have you ever got jack to start?
[11:45] <zequence> mano: do this command: cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:45] <zequence> mano: paste here http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:45] <mano> one time after installing LINUX . then i tryed to connect my studio tools on the laptop . then it stoped
[11:45] <zequence> mano: I'll help you. Just follow my instructions
[11:45] <mano> so what is the first thing to do
[11:46] <zequence> mano: as I said, do this command: cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:46] <zequence> paste here http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:49] <mano> done
[11:50] <zequence> mano: Give me the link
[11:50] <mano> ouch i think i lost it : y don't i write here ?
[11:51] <zequence> mano: Each paste gets it's own link. You can use Shift+Ctrl+T to open closed tabs
[11:51] <zequence> Just make another paste, if you can't find it
[11:52] <mano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5604552/
[11:53] <zequence> mano: So, which device are you attempting to start jack with? The onboard, or the headset?
[11:54] <mano> the laptop card is SRS premium sound but i don't use it . all my sound system is connected to the USB card - C media
[11:54] <mano> i managed to play the sound using the usb but ardour don't work because of jack
[11:55] <zequence> mano: First, let's see if the onboard device works. We begin by killing jack, just in case
[11:55] <zequence> killall -9 jackdbus
[11:55] <zequence> Then, we start jack, and suspending pulseaudio at the same time:
[11:55] <zequence> pasuspender -- jackd -d alsa -d hw:0
[11:56] <mano> i typed the first command
[11:56] <mano>  killall -9 jackdbus
[11:57] <zequence> If it says nothing, it killed jackdbus. If it says "no process found", jackdbus was not running
[11:57] <zequence> Now, try the second command: pasuspender -- jackd -d alsa -d hw:0
[11:57] <mano> i typed it twice and got the 2 answers
[11:58] <mano> ooops i saw the word failed
[11:59] <mano> will i paste the new info for you ?
[11:59] <zequence> mano: No
[11:59] <zequence> The first command is not important. It's just for making sure jackdbus is killed
[11:59] <zequence> Once you're done, try the second command
[11:59] <zequence> If the second command gives you an error, please do paste
[12:00] <mano> i did and got alot of sentence but the last one is enogh  it said /: failed to oped server
[12:00] <zequence> mano: Paste the entire message from jack
[12:00] <zequence> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:01] <mano> from the terminal r8 ?
[12:01] <zequence> Yes, from the terminal
[12:01] <mano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5604572/
[12:03] <zequence> hmm, that's weird
[12:04] <mano> what do you think ? won't it work ?
[12:06] <mano> take a look on the last message from jack
[12:06] <mano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5604585/
[12:07] <zequence> mano: The key error here is Mon Mar 11 14:05:26 2013: [1m[31mERROR: Failed to acquire device name : Audio1 error : Method "RequestRelease" with signature "i" on interface "org.freedesktop.ReserveDevice1" doesn't exist
[12:07] <zequence> [0m
[12:07] <zequence> Which is strange, because we were suspending pulseaudio
[12:07] <zequence> It seems like pulseaudio is blocking your device
[12:08] <zequence> mano: Could you please disconnect your usb device, reboot, and then try starting jack with the command again
[12:08] <zequence> pasuspender -- jackd -d alsa -d hw:0
[12:09] <zequence> mano: Use the Up Arrow key to find old commands in the bash history
[12:09] <mano> ok i will try . will i be able to talk to u again ?
[12:09] <zequence> I'll be here
[12:10] <mano> really thank you . i took alot of your time
[12:11] <mano> i will reboot now
[12:17] <mano> i am back . u r genius
[12:18] <devtekbeta> I AM SPARTACUS!
[12:18] <mano> i was talking to SO here and helped me 2 solve a problem
[12:19] <devtekbeta> then you are in his debt
[12:20] <zequence> mano: Seems like pulseaudio might have become entangled somehow. One thing you might want to keep in mind is that when you start jack, make sure pulseaudio is not doing anything
[12:20] <zequence> mano: I don't know if your usb device will work with jack though
[12:20] <mano> ok ok but wait there is a notice ... why i can't here any thing ?
[12:20] <mano> you mean i have to use the main sound card ?
[12:21] <zequence> You can try plugging in the usb device, then try: pasuspender -- jackd -d alsa -d hw:1
[12:21] <zequence> !proaudio
[12:21] <zequence> that page deals with the audio systems on Ubuntu
[12:21] <zequence> Has some helpful tips
[12:22] <mano> i wanna know something plz
[12:22] <zequence> mano: Also, try just with the command: jackd -d alsa -d hw:0
[12:23] <zequence> mano: What you need to understand about pasuspender is that it suspends pulseaudio. You don't need to do that normally. And if you use card A for pulseaudio and card B for jack, you really don't need it
[12:23] <mano> jack is on . and the usb capture signal . why when i play anything on audacious it don't play ?
[12:23] <zequence> I don't know what audactious is set to use for output
[12:24] <zequence> mano: try hydrogen
[12:24] <zequence> That's usually how I do sound checks
[12:24] <zequence> Ok, I need to get something to eat.
[12:25] <zequence> mano: I think with what we talked about now, you should be able to figure out most of your problems
[12:25] <zequence> mano: Another thing: jackd is not the same as jackdbus
[12:25] <zequence> qjackctl is by default starting jackdbus
[12:25] <zequence> The problem should not be different. Just a different way to control jack
[12:25] <mano> yeah yeah i will complete from this point
[12:25] <mano> thank you guys
[12:25] <zequence> np
[12:26] <zequence> It's really too bad with these bugs
[14:01] <magic_silver_box> eEeEEEEEEE
[14:01] <magic_silver_box> my midi interface is no workky
[14:01] <magic_silver_box> don't know what to dew
[14:01] <magic_silver_box> so confusing
[14:02] <magic_silver_box> emagic unitor8 mk1
[14:02] <magic_silver_box> serial 8x8 midi interface
[14:10] <ronator> hello, may I speak german ? Have some questions relating to xfce under ubuntustudio .. thx
[14:14] <ronator> nobody there ?
[14:32] <ronator> someone there who can answer support questions ? | jemand da, der support-fragen beantworten kann ?
[14:42] <ronator> ok I try some keyords
[14:42] <ronator> help
[14:42] <ronator> support
[14:42] <ronator> :)
[14:42] <ronator> <-gettin' some coffee
[14:46] <ronator> am I muted ? no !
[15:15] <ronator> clock is ticking
[15:22] <magic_silver_box> i think people are just away
[15:22] <magic_silver_box> wait a bit
[15:22] <magic_silver_box> what is your question?
[15:22] <magic_silver_box> (i know nothing)
[15:23] <ronator> yey, finally there is one :)
[15:23] <ronator> ohm german ok or do you prefer english ?
[15:23] <magic_silver_box> well english, but i know nothing about linux so i probably cant help
[15:23] <magic_silver_box> im just starting and my midi interface isnt showing up
[15:23] <ronator> but u use ubuntu studio ?
[15:23] <ronator> brave guy ;-)
[15:23] <magic_silver_box> just installed it
[15:23] <magic_silver_box> so sick of windows
[15:24] <ronator> ah, okay than u might be right
[15:24] <magic_silver_box> cant take it anymore
[15:24] <magic_silver_box> yeah on irc sometimes you have to wait until people are active
[15:24] <magic_silver_box> people leave it on all day
[15:24] <magic_silver_box> i do
[15:24] <magic_silver_box> even if they are away
[15:24] <ronator> yeah, but i just switched from gnoe to XFCE and things ar very ... strange to me
[15:24] <antto> of course ;]
[15:24] <magic_silver_box> i just want midi outs and audio outs and renoise + ardour
[15:25] <magic_silver_box> might try another interface
[15:25] <ronator> and a low lateny kernel ;-)
[15:25] <ronator> +c
[15:26] <ronator> well i just miss some customisation options - starting with customizing the bootloader without editing /etc/grub.conf manually
[15:26] <magic_silver_box> yeah i like ubuntu a whole lot more than windows already, except i dont even know how to load a driver
[15:26] <magic_silver_box> or check if a device is seen
[15:26] <ronator> depends on ...
[15:26] <magic_silver_box> all the how-to www is incredibly confusing
[15:27] <ronator> usb device or midi / pci ?
[15:27] <magic_silver_box> its an old serial midi interface
[15:27] <magic_silver_box> emagic unitor8 mk1
[15:27] <magic_silver_box> some forum people have said it worked right away after OS install
[15:27] <ronator> well this is a general question, where i might help
[15:27] <magic_silver_box> mine does not appear
[15:27] <magic_silver_box> do i need to install a driver and which one
[15:28] <ronator> you connected it to an RS323 interface ?
[15:28] <magic_silver_box> and how ::\
[15:28] <magic_silver_box> yeah rs232
[15:28] <magic_silver_box> db9 whatever you call it, com port
[15:28] <magic_silver_box> power on before bootup
[15:28] <ronator> and com1 up to com4 is initialized in BIOS ?
[15:28] <magic_silver_box> let me see
[15:29] <magic_silver_box> well i should say yes cause i used a different midi interface on that port when i used windows
[15:29] <magic_silver_box> well theres only one serial port
[15:30] <magic_silver_box> bios says Onboard Serial Port 1
[15:30] <magic_silver_box> 3F8H/IRQ4
[15:31] <ronator> you could do a "cat /proc/tty/drivers" to get more info about currently used drivers
[15:31] <ronator> on root console
[15:31] <magic_silver_box> ill try in a minute
[15:31] <magic_silver_box> loading
[15:31] <ronator> to see all drivers currently loaded do a "lsmod" (list modules)
[15:31] <magic_silver_box> i thought maybe there was an IRQ conflict with my pci soundcard but that would be unlikely
[15:32] <magic_silver_box> worked in windows
[15:33] <ronator> when you switch to linux you cannot suppose everythings works in linux as it did in windows *g
[15:33] <magic_silver_box> ttyS is on
[15:33] <magic_silver_box> it says irq 4
[15:33] <magic_silver_box> 64-111 whatever that means
[15:33] <magic_silver_box> last night i found ttyS0 (com port) is on
[15:33] <magic_silver_box> but it doesnt mention any midi driver
[15:33] <magic_silver_box> or even any sound driver
[15:34] <ronator> whats losmod saying ? anything related to your midi device ?
[15:34] <ronator> lsmod
[15:34] <ronator> did you try to install a driver already ?
[15:34] <magic_silver_box> there are some midi things that look generic
[15:34] <magic_silver_box> nothing specific
[15:34] <magic_silver_box> i didnt try to install a driver
[15:34] <magic_silver_box> i dont know how
[15:35] <magic_silver_box> ::/
[15:35] <ronator> do you know if there is a linuxdriver out there for your device ?
[15:35] <magic_silver_box> i haven't found one
[15:35] <magic_silver_box> much searching
[15:35] <ronator> if you can find that ypou could try it the easy way
[15:35] <ronator> with "insmod /path/to/devicedriver"
[15:35] <ronator> insmod takes care that other needed modules are loaded
[15:36] <magic_silver_box> maybe i can find a generic one
[15:36] <ronator> well since you must know the BAUD rate it would be better yu find the individual driver . but maybe you should ask those dudes in the froum
[15:36] <ronator> forum
[15:37] <ronator> they should do a "lsmod" that could help you to find out which driver they are actually using
[15:38] <ronator> if they have the same OS (version) and the same device ....
[15:38] <ronator> I really wonder why yours doesn't work out of thebox
[15:38] <magic_silver_box> yeah
[15:43] <ronator> maybe the vendor of your old serial device even offers generic linux drivers - if the company still exists ... did you check their website ?
[15:44] <ronator> I just have no linux here and no experience with serial devices - tty0, ttyS0 - I do not know anything *g
[15:44] <ronator> but as I said: if someone has this device running, a "lsmod" will provide the needed info for you
[15:46] <ronator> display detected system's serial support: "dmesg | grep tty"
[15:46] <ronator> output something like
[15:46] <ronator> [   37.531286] serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[15:46] <ronator> [   37.531841] 00:0b: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[15:46] <ronator> [   37.532138] 0000:04:00.3: ttyS1 at I/O 0x1020 (irq = 18) is a 16550A
[15:47] <magic_silver_box> yEAH i got ThaT
[15:47] <magic_silver_box> so the port is active
[15:47] <ronator> yes
[15:47] <magic_silver_box> i have to find a driver
[15:47] <magic_silver_box> but like
[15:48] <magic_silver_box> i can't even find a generic driver
[15:48] <magic_silver_box> just cryptic how-to wikis
[15:48] <ronator> :)
[15:48] <ronator> from which vendor is your device ?
[15:48] <magic_silver_box> emagic
[15:48] <magic_silver_box> they were bought by apple in 2002
[15:48] <magic_silver_box> no linux support
[15:48] <ronator> whats your system saying after that cmd:
[15:48] <ronator> setserial -g /dev/ttyS[0123]
[15:49] <ronator> should be something like
[15:49] <magic_silver_box> the program 'setserial' is not installed
[15:49] <magic_silver_box> you can install it by typing sudo apt-get install setserial
[15:49] <ronator> is not ^^ ?
[15:49] <ronator> hm
[15:49] <ronator> do it
[15:50] <magic_silver_box> oh i have to get it online
[15:50] <magic_silver_box> only hardwire www
[15:50] <magic_silver_box> got to move it to other room
[15:51] <ronator> ./dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
[15:51] <ronator> ./dev/ttyS1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x1020, IRQ: 18
[15:51] <ronator> ./dev/ttyS2, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 4
[15:51] <ronator> ./dev/ttyS3, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3
[15:51] <magic_silver_box> brb
[15:52] <magic_silver_box> booting in other room
[15:53] <magic_silver_box> there are a bunch of updates it wants to install, but i ignored
[15:53] <magic_silver_box> being a windows user, i normally ignore the pc when it tells me to update!
[15:53] <magic_silver_box> windows updates make it worse 100% of the time
[15:53] <magic_silver_box> like don't do it!
[15:53] <ronator> no good idea, specially on windows ^^
[15:53] <magic_silver_box> NO!
[15:53] <magic_silver_box> sometimes it updates somehow
[15:53] <magic_silver_box> and windows gets even more annoying
[15:54] <magic_silver_box> oK brb i think it booted
[15:54] <ronator> maybe your hardware will be detected if you do get all those updates ?
[15:54] <ronator> i would cleary recommend to do regular updates
[15:55] <ronator> even from evil guys like M$
[15:55] <magic_silver_box> oK it is downloading 300 things ::]
[15:55] <ronator> btw: is that device a midi keyboard ?
[15:55] <magic_silver_box> this will take a while ::] ::]
[15:56] <magic_silver_box> no its an 8x8 midi interface
[15:56] <magic_silver_box> for all my synths
[15:56] <ronator> yeah, i bet you get a new kernel, maybe this will fix everything ;-)
[15:56] <magic_silver_box> yeah maybe a simple fix
[15:56] <magic_silver_box> ::} ::}
[15:56] <magic_silver_box> then i can learn linux at a normal rate instead of trying to learn everything at once
[15:57] <magic_silver_box> all i want to do is make beatsssss
[15:57] <magic_silver_box> http://www.deepsonic.ch/deep/manuals/emagic_unitor8_mkII_amt8_manual.pdf
[15:57] <magic_silver_box> mine is the unitor8 m1
[15:57] <magic_silver_box> mk1
[15:59] <magic_silver_box> very old interface, but people say it is excellent
[15:59] <magic_silver_box> i figure if midi is 30 years old, i don't need a new interface, just a well-made one
[15:59] <ronator> people say much about old times and old stuff ;-)
[16:00] <magic_silver_box> my midiman 4x2 serial one was excellent
[16:00] <magic_silver_box> just need more ports
[16:00] <magic_silver_box> too many synths :;}
[16:02] <magic_silver_box> i can just fit everything on 4 outs and 2 ins, but i think if i put fewer than 16 channels on each output, the timing will be better
[16:02] <magic_silver_box> of course midi cannot have 2 simultaneous events on one cable
[16:03] <magic_silver_box> so if you have 16 channels on a cable, you can get some timing errors
[16:03] <ronator> if you say so ;)
[16:03] <magic_silver_box> i used to do things like putting a tiny silence before the sample and moving the midi notes back
[16:03] <magic_silver_box> so they wont be at the same time as other notes
[16:04] <magic_silver_box> but the sound play at the same moment
[16:04] <magic_silver_box> +s
[16:04] <ronator> i'd suggest you do all those updates, reboot it and maybe we will meet here later again. I am about to leave the office ;-)
[16:05] <ronator> meanwhile you could ask those who got that device running what "lsmod" is saying ...
[16:05] <magic_silver_box> yes
[16:05] <magic_silver_box> i will do these things
[16:05] <magic_silver_box> you have been very helpful!
[16:05] <ronator> i tried to at least - serial is not my world ^^
[16:05] <magic_silver_box> ::} ::}
[16:05] <ronator> maybe i get some karma and soe one can help ME :)
[16:06] <ronator> so see you later then ....
[16:06] <ronator> and good luck !!!
[16:32] <magic_silver_box> what a nice guy
[16:32] <magic_silver_box> still installing things
[17:15] <magic_silver_box> still installing! i guess 310 updates take a whie
[17:16] <magic_silver_box> l
[17:38] <magic_silver_box> no worky
[18:22] <Tbone> Hi !
[18:23] <Tbone> Am i alone ?
[19:11] <magic_silver_box> y0~
[23:30] <SunStar> when cfhowlett was looking for how to change the login answer, this was the solution: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#Changing_the_Icon
[23:30] <SunStar> login icon*