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eduantrax | olá | 00:37 |
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nell | Hey guys I am just wondering this process looks suspicious to me | 00:51 |
nell | 1648 nobody 20 0 12816 1036 632 S 0.0 0.0 0:03.01 /usr/sbin/tcpspy -U nobody -G nogroup -f /etc/tcpspy.rules | 00:51 |
nell | what the heck is going on? | 00:52 |
calwig | how does one enable the cube in kubuntu? | 00:53 |
calwig | got it | 00:55 |
mandoguit | nell: tcpspy is available through repo's so would imagine it's legit aptitude search tcpspy | 00:59 |
mandoguit | p tcpspy - Incoming and Outgoing TCP/IP connections logge | 00:59 |
mandoguit | tcpspy:i386 - Incoming and Outgoing TCP/IP connections logge | 00:59 |
mandoguit | hmm.....that could have been formatted a bit better :P | 00:59 |
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nexus` | hey guys | 05:23 |
nexus` | i just tried to install kubuntu | 05:23 |
nexus` | but apparently it doesnt support bluetooth by default | 05:24 |
nexus` | i dont have a non bluetooth keyboard is there anyway i can install this? | 05:24 |
valorie | hmmm, I thought bluetooth worked out of the box | 05:29 |
valorie | nexus`: do you have a mouse? | 05:29 |
nexus` | yea valorie | 05:30 |
nexus` | but i got to the part where it was trying to force me to type in a name for the computer | 05:30 |
valorie | I use a laptop, so it's hard to imagine having no keyboard! | 05:30 |
nexus` | couldnt get passed it | 05:30 |
valorie | gads | 05:30 |
nexus` | is there a way i can get into CLI on installation? | 05:31 |
nexus` | sudo apt-get install bluetooth bluez-utils bluez-gnome | 05:31 |
nexus` | can use that then | 05:31 |
valorie | sure, but it's alt-control f2 | 05:31 |
valorie | from the keyboard | 05:31 |
valorie | I wonder if there is an on screen keyboard by default | 05:32 |
nexus` | dunno | 05:33 |
valorie | there is, but how to get it onscreen | 05:33 |
valorie | it's called 'virtual' | 05:33 |
valorie | I used alt+f2 | 05:34 |
valorie | didn't seem to work well with my touchpad though | 05:35 |
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qianlong | hello everyone | 08:08 |
lordievader | Hey qianlong, how are you? | 08:08 |
n8w | hey | 08:38 |
n8w | i have lately been experiencing random reboots, whats the place to start trableshootin? dmesg? well i dont rly know what to look for... | 08:39 |
valorie | by random reboots, do you mean your machine restarts itself? | 08:40 |
valorie | n8w: ^^ | 08:40 |
PrincessLuna | Hi, how can I right click in KDE with a touchscreen. Holding down the finger doesn't work like in Windows 8 and Android. | 08:40 |
valorie | I've never heard of that | 08:40 |
lordievader | n8w: Syslog and dmesg are a good place to start, yes. | 08:40 |
BronySXiYL | Hello. | 08:43 |
BronySXiYL | I have a Digitazz wireless dongle with Ralink RT5370 stuff, but linux can't use it, and the only driver I found was a perl script, that has an error in it, what should I do? | 08:45 |
BronySXiYL | ... | 08:46 |
n8w | valorie, ye... | 08:47 |
n8w | lordievader, yes thx...i have found something in syslog...but its strange | 08:48 |
lordievader | n8w: Does it happen on a specific time? | 08:48 |
n8w | lordievader, nope...this one happened after 347 hours of uptime | 08:48 |
PrincessLuna | Any suggestions on how to right click with a touchscreen? | 08:49 |
n8w | lordievader, its stilla random reboot...see, the device im talking about is IoT gateway...so i need to make sure that this doesnt happen again | 08:49 |
lordievader | n8w: IoT something internet related, I take. Anyhow what does the syslog say? Can you pastebin it? | 08:51 |
lordievader | !pastebin | n8w | 08:51 |
ubottu | n8w: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 08:51 |
n8w | lordievader, i have also got remote logging(cpu usage,cpu temp etc), so i can see the exact time when the machine wen down | 08:52 |
BronySXiYL | ... | 08:52 |
lordievader | PrincessLuna: Touchscreen, plasma-active? | 08:52 |
BronySXiYL | I am calm. | 08:52 |
n8w | lordievader, the machine went down at 6:33:17 this morning and the first entry in syslog is : Mar 12 06:34:17 localhost syslogd (GNU inetutils 1.5): restart | 08:52 |
n8w | lordievader, nothin before that.... | 08:53 |
n8w | lordievader, i mean, yes there r entries, but from fabruary:/ | 08:53 |
PrincessLuna | lordievader: Would that right click? | 08:53 |
PrincessLuna | lordievader: I haven't tried plasma-active yet and this computer has a keyboard, touch pad and pointing stick as well. It can be used as a tablet too. | 08:54 |
lordievader | PrincessLuna: No I'm just asking, since there is a Plasma-active channel here on freenode (#active). If it is plasma-active that you are running, you might ask there. | 08:54 |
BronySXiYL | ... | 08:55 |
lordievader | PrincessLuna: Ah, if it is a pc then you are probaly not runnign plasma-active. | 08:55 |
lordievader | PrincessLuna: Plasma-active is tablet stuff. | 08:55 |
timblechmann | hi, testing 13.04 on one of my machines, i cannot log into kde anymore. | 08:56 |
lordievader | n8w: Syslogd should be just the syslog daemon, this should not reboot your system. However, if it fails to restart you loose your syslogging... it might be related to your problem. | 08:56 |
PrincessLuna | lordievader: I know but you can install plasma active on it and theoretically it should work. | 08:56 |
timblechmann | kdm.log shows me: http://pastie.org/private/juaksgr8tulwh0lhbpg6a ... it seems that it cannot connect to dbus | 08:57 |
timblechmann | any idea how to resolve it? | 08:57 |
n8w | lordievader, im not saying that syslogd has caused the shutdown...but its weird that there is nothin before the actual reboot... | 08:57 |
BronySXiYL | ... | 08:57 |
n8w | lordievader, i mean, no entries indicating that smth is about to happen | 08:58 |
lordievader | n8w: That is why I said it, syslog might fail. What happens after that is not logged anymore. | 08:58 |
lordievader | !patience | BronySXiYL | 08:59 |
ubottu | BronySXiYL: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait. | 08:59 |
BronySXiYL | I am patient, and the forums don;t help. | 08:59 |
n8w | lordievader, the reboor happened before the syslog went down | 08:59 |
BronySXiYL | The only thing I was doing was saying "..." every now and then. | 09:00 |
Mamarok | BronySXiYL: which is unnecessary and only creates noise | 09:00 |
BronySXiYL | Sorry, I don't know everything. | 09:01 |
lordievader | n8w: Are you monitoring temperatures? Mainly CPU and HDDs? | 09:01 |
n8w | lordievader, yes cpu temp and motherboard temp as well | 09:01 |
Mamarok | BronySXiYL: I can't help with your dongle, sorry | 09:02 |
BronySXiYL | No? :( | 09:02 |
lordievader | n8w: Ok, what are they, if I may ask? | 09:03 |
Mamarok | well, it's not very common, and it has nothing to do with Kubuntu, it is a general linux problem | 09:03 |
BronySXiYL | Ah. | 09:04 |
Mamarok | BronySXiYL: so you better ask in a more specific channel, might just be that the hardware just doesn't work in Linux, or contact the script author | 09:04 |
BronySXiYL | Okay. | 09:05 |
palasso | I've searched for the specific hardware and it seems to be working for others | 09:05 |
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Guest91497 | buon giorno | 09:21 |
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n8w | lordievader, sry for bein late... | 09:32 |
n8w | lordievader, all temps r ok... | 09:33 |
lordievader | n8w: Hmm that is annoying, somewhere it would be great if that would be the source of the problem... Does the dmesg give something usefull? | 09:35 |
lordievader | Bit more difficult to search through... | 09:35 |
n8w | lordievader, the same as the other logs...there is a gap and the first entry is right after the reboot | 09:36 |
lordievader | n8w: Harddrive failure? I'm now just thinking of random things. | 09:37 |
n8w | lordievader, ye well...my favorite candidate is the RAM | 09:38 |
n8w | lordievader, do u think that bein low on mem could cause the system to reboot? | 09:38 |
lordievader | n8w: Did you test the both of them? | 09:38 |
n8w | lordievader, there is a sdcard...so no regular hdd | 09:38 |
lordievader | n8w: Theoratically there is a chance, if the OOM killer kicks in and kills init (it shouldn't do that) well than things will go wrong... | 09:39 |
lordievader | n8w: Or there is a script that runs a process and after the process has finished reboots, OOM killer kills the process, script reboots the pc... Again just thinking of things. | 09:39 |
n8w | lordievader, i have started remotely monitoring free mem today...so lets see... | 09:40 |
n8w | lordievader, ye it sounds as a possibility... | 09:41 |
lordievader | n8w: You do not have the option of testing the ram (and hdd)? | 09:41 |
n8w | lordievader, im reviewin the syslog.conf file now... | 09:41 |
Novus | anyone around? | 10:55 |
SudoSudoSudoSu | Me. | 10:55 |
Novus | you know about the development of kubuntu? | 10:56 |
lordievader | Novus: Many are idleing, just ask your question, see !ask for details. | 10:56 |
Novus | I'm trying to figure out why for years I have had problems installing Ubuntu and have nothing but issues with it, yet I install Kubuntu and it works fine everytime 100% out of the box? | 10:57 |
Novus | you all have your own kernal or something? I mean how closely do you two develop together is at all? | 10:58 |
Novus | I'm out of ideas as to why that won't install and frankly I given up on them as I actually think Kubuntu is better anyway | 10:58 |
Novus | but I would love to know why it don't work | 10:58 |
lordievader | Novus: Because Kubuntu is freaking awesome? We use the same kernel as Ubuntu does. | 10:58 |
Novus | KDE is awesome! | 10:59 |
lordievader | Novus: :D | 10:59 |
Novus | please for the love of god don't install that unholy of a program Unity in Kubuntu | 10:59 |
Novus | between that an Gnome,.. they can both kiss my @** | 11:00 |
Riddell | thanks Novus | 11:00 |
Novus | tho I haven't figured out how to get my wobbly windows on tho, lol | 11:01 |
Riddell | right click on a window border -> window manager settings | 11:01 |
Novus | do i need to install compitz? | 11:02 |
lordievader | Nope we have Kwin ;) | 11:02 |
Novus | aw sweeeet | 11:03 |
lordievader | Kwin is much better than Compiz (keep in mind I'm biased) | 11:03 |
Novus | I am a fan of what works :) | 11:03 |
Novus | gimmie one sec | 11:03 |
Novus | I am about to take a shit on my ubuntu CD | 11:03 |
Novus | and post it in the #ubuntu channel | 11:03 |
Novus | i do have a few more questions when I get back tho | 11:04 |
Novus | first big one is I am looking for a game engine that works with linux | 11:04 |
Novus | i use unity3d now | 11:05 |
lordievader | Novus: No need to bash Ubuntu, still without Ubuntu, Kubuntu wouldn't be. | 11:05 |
PrincessLuna | How can I right click with a touchscreen? | 11:22 |
Novus | 2 fingers? | 11:23 |
PrincessLuna | Novus: Does not work. In Windows 8 and android its long press | 11:24 |
Novus | ah good to know | 11:27 |
Novus | holy shit,.. something funyn just happend | 11:28 |
Novus | So,.. I was workign for this company and my boss was a complete idoit and highers idoits.... | 11:29 |
Novus | I should mention because of this I no longer work there | 11:29 |
Novus | I was written up in a matter of weekes cause I called someone "GoofY" | 11:30 |
Novus | Anyway,.. the funny part is | 11:30 |
Tm_T | Novus: wrong channel | 11:30 |
Novus | the alarm company just called me and wanted to know if I wanted to "stop the police" from going to an alarm situation at the office | 11:30 |
Novus | offchat? | 11:31 |
palasso | Novus, this channel is for support on Kubuntu. For off-topic discussions you can use #kubuntu-offtopic | 11:31 |
Novus | ;) | 11:31 |
BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:39 |
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roland | does anyone have a problem where, resizing konsole window crashes KDE? (12.10 with latest updates) | 11:47 |
roland | it seems it's a known problem... related to videocard driver | 12:01 |
nexus` | anyone have a clue why i cant install kubuntu on vmware | 12:06 |
nexus` | i can install any other OS | 12:06 |
nexus` | even ubuntu | 12:06 |
nexus` | but kubuntu is a no go | 12:06 |
lordievader | nexus`: Could you elaborate why it doesn't install? What kind of errors do you get? | 12:07 |
nexus` | i just cant see anything | 12:07 |
nexus` | no GUI or CLI | 12:07 |
nexus` | i guess i can install ubuntu and do an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 12:07 |
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murthy | hello everyone | 12:15 |
murthy | BluesKaj: hi | 12:18 |
Artakha | i'm getting te same problem here | 12:25 |
Artakha | trying to install kubuntu.. first with an usb drive i'm getting boot errors | 12:25 |
Artakha | trying with qemu i'm getting a black screen with a cursor | 12:25 |
lordievader | nexus`: Can't you see anything when booting the live-cd? Or after you've installed it? | 12:26 |
Artakha | i guess i'll try the ubuntu approach too | 12:26 |
nexus` | booting the livecd lordievader | 12:26 |
nexus` | i see the um | 12:26 |
nexus` | waiting screen | 12:26 |
nexus` | where it says kubuntu | 12:26 |
nexus` | then has the dots under neath | 12:26 |
FloodBotK1 | nexus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 12:26 |
nexus` | then after a few seconds it goes blank | 12:27 |
Artakha | yeah i see that too | 12:27 |
nexus` | pitch black | 12:27 |
Artakha | i see a cursor | 12:27 |
Artakha | but otherwise just black | 12:27 |
nexus` | yea me too Artakha | 12:27 |
nexus` | the kubuntu cursor | 12:27 |
nexus` | are u on a VM too? | 12:27 |
Artakha | qemu | 12:27 |
nexus` | qemu? | 12:27 |
lordievader | nexus`: Can you by any change go to a tty? | 12:27 |
Artakha | qemu's a vm | 12:27 |
nexus` | nope lordievader | 12:27 |
Artakha | i'm outright getting boot errors if i try to just boot it | 12:27 |
nexus` | i get nothing but a blank screen and a cursor | 12:28 |
nexus` | maybe 12.10 doesnt work with VM's | 12:28 |
nexus` | since Artakha is getting the same problem | 12:28 |
lordievader | nexus`: It should (or at least I think so), not being able to access the tty, is that due to limitation of vmware or Kubuntu itself? | 12:28 |
nexus` | kubuntu | 12:29 |
nexus` | i cant do anything with it | 12:29 |
nexus` | anyway Artakha installing ubuntu and doing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop works | 12:30 |
Artakha | alright i'll go for that then | 12:30 |
nexus` | just log out and select kde | 12:30 |
lordievader | nexus`: Annoying workaround: install ubuntu server and then installing the kubuntu-desktop package. | 12:30 |
nexus` | then log back in | 12:30 |
nexus` | yea already have lordievader | 12:30 |
nexus` | that works | 12:30 |
nexus` | annoying that kubuntu doesnt wanna work though | 12:30 |
nexus` | gonna try xubuntu here shortly | 12:30 |
FloodBotK1 | nexus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 12:30 |
lordievader | nexus`: Still I recommend taking Ubuntu server instead of the default Ubuntu, less gnome/unity stuff :) | 12:31 |
Artakha | aha? | 12:32 |
Artakha | what's the difference between ubuntu server and the regular one exactly? just less gui things? | 12:32 |
lordievader | Artakha: Ubuntu server comes without a GUI. | 12:33 |
nexus` | a lot less stuff Artakha | 12:33 |
Artakha | ah good | 12:33 |
Artakha | i'll grab that, then | 12:33 |
BluesKaj | no gui if you choose the headless | 12:33 |
nexus` | also i did use server lordievader | 12:33 |
nexus` | i already had the iso since i use ubuntu server on all of my servers | 12:33 |
Unit193 | Easier to get mini.iso, that way you don't have any unneeded server applications. | 12:34 |
Artakha | oh blargh | 12:34 |
Artakha | it's giving me an amd64 iso | 12:34 |
nexus` | not really Unit193 | 12:34 |
nexus` | what is Artakha | 12:34 |
lordievader | Whee, so many options :) | 12:34 |
Artakha | http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server this | 12:34 |
Unit193 | nexus`: How so? | 12:34 |
Artakha | i guess i could grab the lts release but at that point i could just as well get the regular ubuntu | 12:35 |
nexus` | get choose 32bit... | 12:35 |
nexus` | in the dropdown | 12:35 |
nexus` | get 12.04 | 12:35 |
nexus` | its better anyway since its LTS | 12:35 |
FloodBotK1 | nexus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 12:35 |
nexus` | because a lot of the stuff server comes with is needed Unit193 | 12:35 |
Artakha | meh i don't mind upgrading | 12:35 |
lordievader | Artakha: http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=server&bits=32&release=latesr | 12:35 |
nexus` | Artakha: for server LTS is the way to go | 12:36 |
Artakha | but i want a kubuntu desktop, not a server :P | 12:36 |
nexus` | dont think anyone can argue that | 12:36 |
nexus` | well if u prefer 12.10 lordievader just gave you a link | 12:36 |
Artakha | yeah i'll go with that | 12:36 |
nexus` | i just personally prefer 12.04 | 12:36 |
Artakha | thanks a bunch | 12:36 |
nexus` | ill let u guys know if xubuntu works | 12:36 |
BluesKaj | kubuntu desktop runs nicely on 12.10 | 12:37 |
lordievader | nexus`: We're happy with Kubuntu ;) | 12:37 |
nexus` | lordievader: i just meant to compare with kubuntu | 12:37 |
Artakha | cool, 80 megs less to download | 12:37 |
nexus` | to see if it is a kubuntu problem or a problem with anything but regular ubuntu on VM's | 12:37 |
lordievader | BluesKaj: They have the problem that 12.10 does not run inside VMware... :( | 12:37 |
Artakha | hm, 20 minutes to download | 12:38 |
* Artakha waltzes afk | 12:38 | |
BluesKaj | well, then ask in VMware :) , tired of ppl afraid to take a risk and do a real install | 12:38 |
Artakha | thanks for the help guys | 12:38 |
nexus` | BluesKaj: im not afraid | 12:38 |
Artakha | BluesKaj, i tried to install normally | 12:39 |
nexus` | i just only have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard | 12:39 |
Artakha | it refuses to boot | 12:39 |
Artakha | so i tried qemu as a last-ditch effort | 12:39 |
nexus` | also you know VM's are there for a reason | 12:39 |
BluesKaj | Artakha, my recommendation is to forget virtual unless absolutely necessary for on the job requirements , otherwise do a proper install | 12:40 |
BluesKaj | Artakha, if a VM is a requirement then install ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop and do the pure kde commands | 12:43 |
BluesKaj | !pure-kde | 12:43 |
nexus` | lordievader: xubuntu works | 12:44 |
nexus` | so its a kubuntu problem | 12:44 |
BluesKaj | http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu , Artakha | 12:44 |
lordievader | nexus`: Have you tried the 12.04.2 version of Kubuntu in a VM? | 12:44 |
nexus` | nope | 12:44 |
nexus` | where is it | 12:44 |
nexus` | all i saw was 12.10 | 12:45 |
lordievader | nexus`: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download-lts | 12:45 |
BluesKaj | Artakha, or idf you want a kubuntu install try my above suggestion without the VM ...I had to use that method a while back and it worked great | 12:47 |
nexus` | lordievader: let ya know in about 30 minutes | 12:49 |
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nexus` | lordievader: looks like 12.04 doesnt work either | 13:05 |
nexus` | http://snapplr.com/yfrd thats all i can see | 13:05 |
lordievader | nexus`: It freezes there? | 13:07 |
nexus` | yep | 13:07 |
nexus` | and when i shut it down and start it up | 13:07 |
nexus` | all i can see is a _ | 13:07 |
nexus` | black background. doesnt work in VM's apparently | 13:07 |
nexus` | oh well | 13:07 |
lordievader | nexus`: A real install is not an option? | 13:08 |
nexus` | na | 13:08 |
nexus` | not at this point | 13:08 |
nexus` | im on an iMac | 13:08 |
nexus` | only got bluetooth mouse/keyboard | 13:08 |
nexus` | cant install any linux | 13:08 |
soee | anyoen using rsibreak ? | 13:11 |
BluesKaj | soee, what's rsibreak ? | 13:12 |
soee | BluesKaj, app to count activity time and set short/long breaks for you | 13:12 |
BluesKaj | yeah , I see now , soee ..too late for me , probly gonna need carpal tunnel surgery soon . Can't blame the mouse and KB entirely for this tho , playing drums also causes the same condititon | 13:15 |
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KomiaPoika | hi | 13:36 |
KomiaPoika | is there a program as good as lightroom3 or lightroom4 in linux? | 13:36 |
BluesKaj | KomiaPoika, what kind of app is that ? | 13:36 |
KomiaPoika | adobe lightroom to edit pictures in a batch | 13:36 |
KomiaPoika | i know of darktable but it's mostly to edit raw's | 13:37 |
lordievader | KomiaPoika: In my opinion there is not, Lightroom is one of my reasons to keep Windows on my laptop. | 13:38 |
Artakha | bleh, tried to boot the ubuntu server from my usb drive | 13:38 |
KomiaPoika | lordievader: did you ever try darktable? | 13:39 |
Artakha | it just farted "no operating system" and dropped down to the hard drive :P | 13:39 |
Artakha | this is getting quite annoying | 13:39 |
lordievader | KomiaPoika: No I haven't, is it any good? | 13:39 |
lordievader | Artakha: How did you try to make the usb drive? | 13:40 |
KomiaPoika | lordievader: didn't try it yet, but it presents itself as the lightroom alternative for linux | 13:40 |
BluesKaj | Artakha, dunno if you noticed my suggestion above , about installing ubuntu then doing the the pure kde commands to get kubuntu | 13:40 |
Artakha | BluesKaj, that's what i'm trying to do | 13:41 |
Artakha | lordievader, formatted with mkfs.ext3 and installed with unetbootin | 13:42 |
lordievader | Artakha: Did you try it with the Usb Creator (not sure if you are running Ubuntu <- standard installed in there) | 13:43 |
Artakha | running debian lenny right now | 13:43 |
BluesKaj | Artakha, no cdrom? , usb installs seem to have probs and bugs | 13:43 |
Artakha | BluesKaj, no cds at hand right now | 13:44 |
jussi | how does one change the oxygen style so that I have square buttons not round? | 13:45 |
KomiaPoika | can you put the task bar on top in kubuntu 12.10? | 13:48 |
Torch | you can in KDE, so why not in 12.10? ;-) | 13:49 |
jussi | KomiaPoika: yes, you can | 13:50 |
jussi | KomiaPoika: right click the bar, panel options, panel settings, then click and drag the screen edge button | 13:51 |
KomiaPoika | jussi: thanks | 14:21 |
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KomiaPoika | is the ubuntu 12.10 default interface gnome? | 14:27 |
lordievader | KomiaPoika: Unity, a UI based on Gnome. | 14:27 |
BluesKaj | KomiaPoika, unity is the default in ubuntu afaik | 14:28 |
KomiaPoika | so which is better now really, unity or the lastest kde with kubuntu? | 14:33 |
lordievader | KomiaPoika: We here would (ofcourse) say Kubuntu, in #ubuntu they would say Ubuntu/Unity is better... | 14:33 |
KomiaPoika | fair enough | 14:34 |
KomiaPoika | bye | 14:35 |
jman074 | i got disconnecte | 14:54 |
jman074 | how do i dowload oracle java from terminal | 14:54 |
ben___ | apt-get install <packagename> | 14:56 |
ben___ | or go to website, download it, then read the install file in the downloaded file | 14:57 |
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mandoguit | sudo apt-get install <packagename> | 14:59 |
ben___ | mandoguit you have to not put sudo in the first go around | 15:00 |
ben___ | so you can use <sudo !!> the second time lol | 15:01 |
lordievader | ben___: To install you allways need sudo rights, for apt-cache you don't need sude. | 15:01 |
rberg | Is oracle java in the repos? I didnt think so.. webupd8 has a nice package that grabs the bin from oracle and installs it in within the package manager | 15:02 |
lordievader | jman074: Download the tar-ball from here: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en | 15:03 |
ben___ | theres a bunch of the libs in the repos but the jdk or sdk isn't in there | 15:06 |
ben___ | there are Mono libs though | 15:07 |
jman074 | lord you still here | 15:29 |
jman074 | lord what do you think about this | 15:29 |
jman074 | http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Oracle-Java-in-Ubuntu-309861.shtml | 15:29 |
lordievader | jman074: I don't use java (of any kind), so no idea. I do remember just grabbing the tar-ball and following oracles (was sun back then) instructions on installing it. | 15:31 |
murthy | -> dinner | 15:34 |
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jman074 | okay im trying to take classes and firefox says i need some plugins to view all media on the site. :( someone told me to download oracle do yo know of a way around it. but first of all what was the way to type in terminal to get sys info | 15:38 |
BluesKaj | some workplaces insist on oracle java due to contractual and technical reasons | 15:39 |
lordievader | jman074: Firefox usually tries to find the pugin itself, is Java one of those plugins it cannot find? | 15:39 |
jman074 | it searched for like twelve hours | 15:40 |
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lordievader | jman074: Download the tar-ball from here, the instructions are next to the download link: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en | 15:40 |
rberg | http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html | 15:40 |
rberg | much easier.. it does all the update-alternatives for you | 15:41 |
BluesKaj | or this jman074 , http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/index-137561.html | 15:43 |
jman074 | thanks guys appreciate it. how do i know if i have 32 or 64 bit | 15:43 |
BluesKaj | jman074, uname -a in the terminal | 15:44 |
lordievader | jman074: Run "arch" from the command line. | 15:44 |
jman074 | sweet so run the linux x64 or linux 64 rpm | 15:45 |
BluesKaj | x86_64 means you have 64 | 15:45 |
BluesKaj | not rpm , look for a .deb | 15:46 |
lordievader | jman074: You need the tar-ball (tar.gz), not the rpm, rmp is for red-hat for example. | 15:46 |
lordievader | BluesKaj: The page I gave him doesn't provide debs... :( | 15:46 |
BluesKaj | then self extracting | 15:46 |
jman074 | sorry lord i don't understand what is tar.gz | 15:47 |
jman074 | i don't see it | 15:47 |
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lordievader | jman074: It's the non rpm option :P | 15:48 |
jman074 | lol | 15:48 |
BluesKaj | http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en , has self extracting container | 15:48 |
lordievader | BluesKaj: We probably mean the same thing ;) | 15:49 |
jman074 | okay lord here we go gonna try this wish me luck | 15:49 |
lordievader | jman074: No luck required, you probably have the dependencies. | 15:49 |
jman074 | i hate new computers. its like a car its not good till its broke in right | 15:50 |
jman074 | lord when it finishes downloading it it do the rest | 15:52 |
lordievader | jman074: Check the instructions page, it is next to the download link. | 15:52 |
jman074 | i did that then i seen another link for ubuntu looks like spanish or french j/k | 15:53 |
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lordievader | jman074: It's this one: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml | 15:54 |
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jman074 | yeh i at that but on that page there is another link for ubuntu | 15:55 |
lordievader | jman074: Hey now you mention it, you could also go with that route. | 15:56 |
jman074 | i already started downloading the tar.gz one and when i click on ubuntu it has another file errr if i follow the directions on the first page it will still work right/ | 15:57 |
jman074 | ? | 15:57 |
lordievader | jman074: Can you try that sentence again, I'm not following. You started downloading the tar-ball, and then? | 15:58 |
jman074 | is it going to make any diff if i install targz file or do i have to click on the ubuntu link and do it that way | 16:00 |
lordievader | jman074: Version number, perhaps. But nothing major I recon. | 16:02 |
jman074 | i got this link from the file i started downloadinghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java | 16:02 |
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jman074 | so i did ubuntu way and it took me to software center how bout that | 16:14 |
jman074 | lol | 16:14 |
jman074 | :-/ | 16:14 |
BluesKaj | BBL | 16:16 |
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PrincessLuna | How can you right click? | 16:44 |
casper_ | selam | 16:47 |
PrincessLuna | I mean right click using a touch screen | 16:47 |
kbana | shalom | 16:48 |
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SouL_ | Hello guys and girls | 17:25 |
SouL_ | Someone knows why the brightness goes darker without touching it sometimes? | 17:25 |
SouL_ | Laptop. | 17:25 |
rosco_y | SouL_: sounds like your power settings are kicking in and dimming the panel | 17:28 |
rosco_y | or am I missing the point | 17:28 |
SouL_ | Oh.. | 17:29 |
SouL_ | Sometimes I'm working and the "light" goes off | 17:29 |
SouL_ | I configured it on systemsettings but now I don't know why | 17:29 |
SouL_ | Thanks for answer by the way, rosco_y :) | 17:29 |
rosco_y | :) sure, glad to be able to help once in awhile--I sure get a lot of help around here :) | 17:30 |
rosco_y | don't think I'd make it without my irc software..... | 17:30 |
test_ | hi there, using raring and have now a problem.... I unexpectedly ended up at lightdm login in screen, despite having auto-login set...... whenever I login now, I do end up back at lightdm login. I already tried to dpkg-reconfigure lightdm and still the same.... then I replaced lightdm with kdm and same behaviour there | 17:47 |
jman074 | hello everyone | 18:02 |
jman074 | lord you available | 18:02 |
lordievader | jman074: Jup, I'm here. | 18:03 |
Mamarok | jman074: do you have more than one desktop isntalled? Then this is absolutely normal, how else do you want to change desktop? | 18:03 |
lordievader | jman074: Btw use my full nick (use autocomplete :)), in that way I get a ping. | 18:04 |
jman074 | um no just one desktop and it has four work spaces | 18:04 |
jman074 | okay | 18:04 |
test_ | hi Mamarok | 18:05 |
jman074 | lordievader i got the java to work. but i boo booed. when the applet is loading it says i chose not to trust it. i would like to trust it now lol | 18:05 |
lordievader | jman074: As I said earlier, I do not use java. No idea how to change those settings. | 18:06 |
jman074 | i think that is a browser settting got somthing to do with the certificates. i loaded the page again but it says the same thing. | 18:07 |
Mausschubser | #requonk | 18:08 |
Mamarok | test_: sorry, that was actually meant for you | 18:08 |
Mamarok | jman074: sorry, I misdirected my answer | 18:09 |
lordievader | Be right back, got to do some dishes. | 18:12 |
lordievader | Back. | 18:21 |
ntzrmtthihu777 | question about the kde desktop in relation to the gnome-desktop | 18:29 |
ntzrmtthihu777 | in gnome the menu items are sorted by their *.desktop files "Categories" line, is it such in kubuntu? | 18:29 |
Mamarok | ntzrmtthihu777: you want to know if the Menu in KDE has categories? Of course :) And there are not that many ways to sort those | 18:30 |
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ntzrmtthihu777 | Mamarok: Sorry, was afk. what I mean is are they sorted by the same mechanism? | 18:55 |
Kazoey | How do I register my nick again? | 19:15 |
Mamarok | !register | 19:16 |
ubottu | Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode | 19:16 |
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Mamarok | Kazoey: see the link above | 19:17 |
Korrosion | Thank you | 19:17 |
jman074 | is any one using open jdk java | 19:24 |
jman074 | im running open jdk java 7 how do i delete temp internet files"applications and applets" | 19:26 |
rberg | Hello, I am on kde 4.10.1 and new multi-monitor daemon is working really well, is there any way to have it not prompt me to to run the configuration tool every time? it just works (so far) | 19:30 |
murthy | bbl | 19:34 |
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palasso | Anyone knows what #kubuntu-bugs is for? It doesn't have a topic title. Does it correlate to what #ubuntu-bugs is? It's not on this list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 20:00 |
Mamarok | palasso: is there actually somebody in there? | 20:01 |
jman074 | im running openjdk java 7 anyone know how to trust applets or delete temp internet files | 20:07 |
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palasso | Mamarok, 5+ ppl | 20:15 |
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Mamarok | palasso: this is only a channel where bugs are listed by a bot, so unless you are into bug fixing it will not be very useful for you | 20:17 |
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palasso | Mamarok, sometimes I report bugs ;) | 20:17 |
Mamarok | well, it is still no sue for you as the channel is not for reporting bugs | 20:18 |
Mamarok | no use* | 20:18 |
Mamarok | there is a bot that lists new incoming bugs, so it is only useful for people who fix bugs | 20:18 |
palasso | I am logged in for 10 hours in this channel and there was no activity | 20:19 |
Mamarok | because there were no bugs reported against kubuntu on launchpad | 20:19 |
Mamarok | kde bugs are reported upstream so that channel will not have much traffic | 20:20 |
palasso | Should some OP create a topic title so it'd be more straightforward for ppl like me for what it's for? | 20:20 |
Mamarok | no, why? it is only useful to insiders, there is a reason why it is not lsited | 20:20 |
palasso | In order to have a hint on what it might be I went to #ubuntu-bugs to see that topic title | 20:20 |
Mamarok | how did you end up in there anyway? | 20:20 |
palasso | I just searched for kde and kubuntu channels on freenode and noticed that #ubuntu-bugs is on the list while #kubuntu-bugs isn't | 20:21 |
palasso | I mean on the wiki list | 20:21 |
Mamarok | well, as I said, that is for a reason | 20:21 |
Mamarok | and I just explained it to you, didn't I? | 20:22 |
palasso | That it's only useful to insiders | 20:22 |
Mamarok | and what it is for and why it is not lsited | 20:22 |
Mamarok | listed* | 20:22 |
palasso | It's for listing new bugs that are filled on LP for Kubuntu | 20:23 |
Mamarok | yes, that's what I told you, isn't it? So no need to repeat :) | 20:24 |
palasso | Sorry I thought you asked me | 20:24 |
Mamarok | no, that was rethoric English | 20:24 |
palasso | To tell you the truth I still don't understand why #ubuntu-bugs is on the wiki list while #kubuntu-bugs isn't (and why the one has topic title while the other doesn't). In other words why they are treated somewhat different | 20:25 |
yofel | palasso: #kubuntu-bugs isn't really used these days anymore. #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-bugs are sufficient | 20:27 |
palasso | I see. thnx yofel for the info :) | 20:27 |
Mamarok | and why was my explanation not sufficient? | 20:27 |
yofel | the announcement part is done on the ~kubuntu-bugs team mailing list on launchpad. For all of ubuntu there's #ubuntu-bugs-announce | 20:27 |
Mamarok | oh well... | 20:28 |
palasso | Nice, I'll look into it ;) | 20:28 |
palasso | Mamarok, no worries. You explained to me some things ;) | 20:28 |
Mamarok | then why did you ask the same question again? seriously... | 20:29 |
palasso | I didn't find it to be the same question. But let's leave it here. There is no reason to argue :) | 20:29 |
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jman074 | lordievader | 21:58 |
lordievader | jman074: Yes? | 21:58 |
jman074 | hey there | 21:58 |
lordievader | jman074: Good evening. | 21:58 |
jman074 | im having trouble unpacking and installing the tarball into the /usr/local directory | 21:59 |
jman074 | i figured out how to change to that directory but i don't know how to move the file there and install it | 21:59 |
lordievader | jman074: First extract it to a dir you have write acces to, your home dir or something. | 21:59 |
jman074 | one sec and i will do that | 22:00 |
jman074 | extracted | 22:01 |
lordievader | jman074: In what directory? | 22:02 |
jman074 | home directory into the downloads folder | 22:02 |
lordievader | jman074: Hm... Ok, in a terminal change to that folder. | 22:03 |
jman074 | would that be cd /home | 22:04 |
lordievader | jman074: No, "cd /home/<user-name>/Downloads" | 22:05 |
lordievader | jman074: Where does the folder need to go? | 22:05 |
jman074 | i doesn't really i just need to install it | 22:05 |
lordievader | jman074: You just asked me how to move it to some folder... | 22:06 |
jman074 | yes we extracted to a folder now we need to install | 22:07 |
lordievader | jman074: Are you following a guide? | 22:07 |
jman074 | yes | 22:08 |
jman074 | now it says move .tar.gz archive binary to current directory | 22:09 |
lordievader | jman074: Can you link me to the guide? | 22:09 |
jman074 | http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml#install | 22:09 |
jman074 | the ubuntu one didn't work so im just doin the origional linux | 22:10 |
murthy__ | lordievader: whats your time zone? | 22:10 |
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lordievader | jman074: Can you give me a link? | 22:13 |
jman074 | http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml#install | 22:14 |
lordievader | jman074: Does the folder /usr/java exist (should be /usr/share/java IMHO) | 22:15 |
murthy__ | lordievader: late for you? got some time? | 22:16 |
jman074 | /usr/shar/java is a directory | 22:17 |
lordievader | murthy__: Depends, is it something bit? | 22:17 |
lordievader | big* | 22:17 |
murthy__ | lordievader: to the devs | 22:17 |
lordievader | jman074: Good, "sudo mv /home/<user-name>/Downloads/<extracted-java-folder>/ /usr/share/java/" | 22:18 |
lordievader | murthy__: To the devs? I'm no dev... | 22:18 |
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jman074 | says no such file or directory | 22:24 |
lordievader | jman074: You replaced the things between the < > with the correct information? | 22:24 |
jman074 | yes | 22:24 |
lordievader | jman074: And what you just said about /usr/share/java is correct too? | 22:25 |
jman074 | yes | 22:25 |
lordievader | jman074: Then there is probably a typo in the way you copied the command, note there is space between "java-folder>/" and "/usr/...." | 22:28 |
jman074 | yeh i copied good | 22:28 |
jman074 | ill try once more | 22:28 |
murthy__ | lordievader: good night | 22:29 |
lordievader | Sleep wel, murthy__ | 22:29 |
jman074 | still no go | 22:30 |
jman074 | bash: jman074: No such file or directory | 22:30 |
lordievader | jacky: Can you show what you are exactly typing? | 22:31 |
lordievader | Sorry jacky, misdirected. | 22:32 |
lordievader | jman074: ^ | 22:32 |
jman074 | jman074@sniper:~$ sudo mv /home/<jman074>/Downloads/<jre1.7.0_17>/ /usr/share/java/ | 22:33 |
lordievader | jman074: Remove the < and >, then you have a hit! | 22:34 |
jman074 | i feel slow | 22:34 |
jman074 | jman074@sniper:~$ sudo mv /home/<jman074>/Downloads/<jre1.7.0_17>/ /usr/share/java/ | 22:36 |
jman074 | ignore that | 22:36 |
Mamarok | jman074: remove those < and >, you shouldn't sue those in folder names | 22:36 |
jman074 | jman074@sniper:~$ sudo mv/home/jman074/downloads/jre1.7.0_17/ /usr/share/java/ | 22:36 |
jman074 | [sudo] password for jman074: | 22:36 |
jman074 | sudo: mv/home/jman074/downloads/jre1.7.0_17/: command not found | 22:36 |
Mamarok | and there is a typo, space after mv missing | 22:37 |
Mamarok | sudo mv /home/ etc | 22:37 |
lordievader | jman074: And it is Downloads, linux is case-sensitive. | 22:37 |
jman074 | okay pray for me here we go | 22:37 |
stacky | can anyone please let me know if there is a solution to the failure in configuring interface of wifi on Broadcom BCM4313 802.11b\g\n in kubuntu 12.10... i have already tried ndiswrapper | 22:37 |
jman074 | i think it worked now what | 22:39 |
uglyoldbob | what do I need to do to get a copy of nslookup that supports ls? | 22:39 |
lordievader | jman074: Delete the tar.gz file and you're done, according to your guide. | 22:40 |
jman074 | hmmm | 22:40 |
jman074 | where is the tar.gz file at now | 22:43 |
stacky | please anyone .... configuring Broadcom BCM4313 802.11b\g\n on kubuntu 12.10 | 22:43 |
lordievader | jman074: You saved it somewhere ;) | 22:43 |
jman074 | thanks for putting up with me i don't know what i would do without you lol | 22:44 |
lordievader | Hehe, it's allright jman074. I'm glad I could help. | 22:45 |
Mamarok | stacky: I don't know, and Broadcom is not exactly Linux-friendly | 22:45 |
Mamarok | stacky: patience, if somebody knows they will answer | 22:45 |
vincents_mob | help please i can't access kde anymore i think its something to do with my screen | 22:45 |
stacky | Mamarok: OK :) | 22:46 |
lordievader | I'm off to bed, sleep well. | 22:47 |
vincents_mob | when i try apt get kubuntu-settings-desktop i get nessesary kubuntu-qtquick1-components but is not installable and error holding defect packages | 22:49 |
uglyoldbob | ok it seems "dig axfr" accomplishes what i need | 22:52 |
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marocain | hi | 23:56 |
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