[00:37] <eduantrax> olá
[00:51] <nell> Hey guys I am just wondering this process looks suspicious to me
[00:51] <nell> 1648 nobody     20   0 12816  1036   632 S  0.0  0.0  0:03.01 /usr/sbin/tcpspy -U nobody -G nogroup -f /etc/tcpspy.rules
[00:52] <nell> what the heck is going on?
[00:53] <calwig> how does one enable the cube in kubuntu?
[00:55] <calwig> got it
[00:59] <mandoguit> nell:   tcpspy is available through repo's so would imagine it's legit    aptitude search tcpspy
[00:59] <mandoguit> p   tcpspy                               - Incoming and Outgoing TCP/IP connections logge
[00:59] <mandoguit> tcpspy:i386 - Incoming and Outgoing TCP/IP connections logge
[00:59] <mandoguit> hmm.....that could have been formatted a bit better  :P
[05:23] <nexus`> hey guys
[05:23] <nexus`> i just tried to install kubuntu
[05:24] <nexus`> but apparently it doesnt support bluetooth by default
[05:24] <nexus`> i dont have a non bluetooth keyboard is there anyway i can install this?
[05:29] <valorie> hmmm, I thought bluetooth worked out of the box
[05:29] <valorie> nexus`: do you have a mouse?
[05:30] <nexus`> yea valorie
[05:30] <nexus`> but i got to the part where it was trying to force me to type in a name for the computer
[05:30] <valorie> I use a laptop, so it's hard to imagine having no keyboard!
[05:30] <nexus`> couldnt get passed it
[05:30] <valorie> gads
[05:31] <nexus`> is there a way i can get into CLI on installation?
[05:31] <nexus`> sudo apt-get install bluetooth bluez-utils bluez-gnome
[05:31] <nexus`> can use that then
[05:31] <valorie> sure, but it's alt-control f2
[05:31] <valorie> from the keyboard
[05:32] <valorie> I wonder if there is an on screen keyboard by default
[05:33] <nexus`> dunno
[05:33] <valorie> there is, but how to get it onscreen
[05:33] <valorie> it's called 'virtual'
[05:34] <valorie> I used alt+f2
[05:35] <valorie> didn't seem to work well with my touchpad though
[08:08] <qianlong> hello everyone
[08:08] <lordievader> Hey qianlong, how are you?
[08:38] <n8w> hey
[08:39] <n8w> i have lately been experiencing random reboots, whats the place to start trableshootin? dmesg? well i dont rly know what to look for...
[08:40] <valorie> by random reboots, do you mean your machine restarts itself?
[08:40] <valorie> n8w: ^^
[08:40] <PrincessLuna> Hi, how can I right click in KDE with a touchscreen. Holding down the finger doesn't work like in Windows 8 and Android.
[08:40] <valorie> I've never heard of that
[08:40] <lordievader> n8w: Syslog and dmesg are a good place to start, yes.
[08:43] <BronySXiYL> Hello.
[08:45] <BronySXiYL> I have a Digitazz wireless dongle with Ralink RT5370 stuff, but linux can't use it, and the only driver I found was a perl script, that has an error in it, what should I do?
[08:46] <BronySXiYL> ...
[08:47] <n8w> valorie, ye...
[08:48] <n8w> lordievader, yes thx...i have found something in syslog...but its strange
[08:48] <lordievader> n8w: Does it happen on a specific time?
[08:48] <n8w> lordievader, nope...this one happened after 347 hours of uptime
[08:49] <PrincessLuna> Any suggestions on how to right click with a touchscreen?
[08:49] <n8w> lordievader, its stilla random reboot...see, the device im talking about is IoT gateway...so i need to make sure that this doesnt happen again
[08:51] <lordievader> n8w: IoT something internet related, I take. Anyhow what does the syslog say? Can you pastebin it?
[08:51] <lordievader> !pastebin | n8w
[08:52] <n8w> lordievader, i have also got remote logging(cpu usage,cpu temp etc), so i can see the exact time when the machine wen down
[08:52] <BronySXiYL> ...
[08:52] <lordievader> PrincessLuna: Touchscreen, plasma-active?
[08:52] <BronySXiYL> I am calm.
[08:52] <n8w> lordievader, the machine went down at 6:33:17 this morning and the first entry in syslog is : Mar 12 06:34:17 localhost syslogd (GNU inetutils 1.5): restart
[08:53] <n8w> lordievader, nothin before that....
[08:53] <n8w> lordievader, i mean, yes there r entries, but from fabruary:/
[08:53] <PrincessLuna> lordievader: Would that right click?
[08:54] <PrincessLuna> lordievader: I haven't tried plasma-active yet and this computer has a keyboard, touch pad and pointing stick as well. It can be used as a tablet too.
[08:54] <lordievader> PrincessLuna: No I'm just asking, since there is a Plasma-active channel here on freenode (#active). If it is plasma-active that you are running, you might ask there.
[08:55] <BronySXiYL> ...
[08:55] <lordievader> PrincessLuna: Ah, if it is a pc then you are probaly not runnign plasma-active.
[08:55] <lordievader> PrincessLuna: Plasma-active is tablet stuff.
[08:56] <timblechmann> hi, testing 13.04 on one of my machines, i cannot log into kde anymore.
[08:56] <lordievader> n8w: Syslogd should be just the syslog daemon, this should not reboot your system. However, if it fails to restart you loose your syslogging... it might be related to your problem.
[08:56] <PrincessLuna> lordievader: I know but you can install plasma active on it and theoretically it should work.
[08:57] <timblechmann> kdm.log shows me: http://pastie.org/private/juaksgr8tulwh0lhbpg6a ... it seems that it cannot connect to dbus
[08:57] <timblechmann> any idea how to resolve it?
[08:57] <n8w> lordievader, im not saying that syslogd has caused the shutdown...but its weird that there is nothin before the actual reboot...
[08:57] <BronySXiYL> ...
[08:58] <n8w> lordievader, i mean, no entries indicating that smth is about to happen
[08:58] <lordievader> n8w: That is why I said it, syslog might fail. What happens after that is not logged anymore.
[08:59] <lordievader> !patience | BronySXiYL
[08:59] <BronySXiYL> I am patient, and the forums don;t help.
[08:59] <n8w> lordievader, the reboor happened before the syslog went down
[09:00] <BronySXiYL> The only thing I was doing was saying "..." every now and then.
[09:00] <Mamarok> BronySXiYL: which is unnecessary and only creates noise
[09:01] <BronySXiYL> Sorry, I don't know everything.
[09:01] <lordievader> n8w: Are you monitoring temperatures? Mainly CPU and HDDs?
[09:01] <n8w> lordievader, yes cpu temp and motherboard temp as well
[09:02] <Mamarok> BronySXiYL: I can't help with your dongle, sorry
[09:02] <BronySXiYL> No? :(
[09:03] <lordievader> n8w: Ok, what are they, if I may ask?
[09:03] <Mamarok> well, it's not very common, and it has nothing to do with Kubuntu, it is a general linux problem
[09:04] <BronySXiYL> Ah.
[09:04] <Mamarok> BronySXiYL: so you better ask in a more specific channel, might just be that the hardware just doesn't work in Linux, or contact the script author
[09:05] <BronySXiYL> Okay.
[09:05] <palasso> I've searched for the specific hardware and it seems to be working for others
[09:21] <Guest91497> buon giorno
[09:32] <n8w> lordievader, sry for bein late...
[09:33] <n8w> lordievader, all temps r ok...
[09:35] <lordievader> n8w: Hmm that is annoying, somewhere it would be great if that would be the source of the problem... Does the dmesg give something usefull?
[09:35] <lordievader> Bit more difficult to search through...
[09:36] <n8w> lordievader, the same as the other logs...there is a gap and the first entry is right after the reboot
[09:37] <lordievader> n8w: Harddrive failure? I'm now just thinking of random things.
[09:38] <n8w> lordievader, ye well...my favorite candidate is the RAM
[09:38] <n8w> lordievader, do u think that bein low on mem could cause the system to reboot?
[09:38] <lordievader> n8w: Did you test the both of them?
[09:38] <n8w> lordievader, there is a sdcard...so no regular hdd
[09:39] <lordievader> n8w: Theoratically there is a chance, if the OOM killer kicks in and kills init (it shouldn't do that) well than things will go wrong...
[09:39] <lordievader> n8w: Or there is a script that runs a process and after the process has finished reboots, OOM killer kills the process, script reboots the pc... Again just thinking of things.
[09:40] <n8w> lordievader, i have started remotely monitoring free mem today...so lets see...
[09:41] <n8w> lordievader, ye it sounds as a possibility...
[09:41] <lordievader> n8w: You do not have the option of testing the ram (and hdd)?
[09:41] <n8w> lordievader, im reviewin the syslog.conf file now...
[10:55] <Novus> anyone around?
[10:55] <SudoSudoSudoSu> Me.
[10:56] <Novus> you know about the development of kubuntu?
[10:56] <lordievader> Novus: Many are idleing, just ask your question, see !ask for details.
[10:57] <Novus> I'm trying to figure out why for years I have had problems installing Ubuntu and have nothing but issues with it, yet I install Kubuntu and it works fine everytime 100% out of the box?
[10:58] <Novus> you all have your own kernal or something? I mean how closely do you two develop together is at all?
[10:58] <Novus> I'm out of ideas as to why that won't install and frankly I given up on them as I actually think Kubuntu is better anyway
[10:58] <Novus> but I would love to know why it don't work
[10:58] <lordievader> Novus: Because Kubuntu is freaking awesome? We use the same kernel as Ubuntu does.
[10:59] <Novus> KDE is awesome!
[10:59] <lordievader> Novus: :D
[10:59] <Novus> please for the love of god don't install that unholy of a program Unity in Kubuntu
[11:00] <Novus> between that an Gnome,.. they can both kiss my @**
[11:00] <Riddell> thanks Novus
[11:01] <Novus> tho I haven't figured out how to get my wobbly windows on tho, lol
[11:01] <Riddell> right click on a window border -> window manager settings
[11:02] <Novus> do i need to install compitz?
[11:02] <lordievader> Nope we have Kwin ;)
[11:03] <Novus> aw sweeeet
[11:03] <lordievader> Kwin is much better than Compiz (keep in mind I'm biased)
[11:03] <Novus> I am a fan of what works :)
[11:03] <Novus> gimmie one sec
[11:03] <Novus> I am about to take a shit on my ubuntu CD
[11:03] <Novus> and post it in the #ubuntu channel
[11:04] <Novus> i do have a few more questions when I get back tho
[11:04] <Novus> first big one is I am looking for a game engine that works with linux
[11:05] <Novus> i use unity3d now
[11:05] <lordievader> Novus: No need to bash Ubuntu, still without Ubuntu, Kubuntu wouldn't be.
[11:22] <PrincessLuna> How can I right click with a touchscreen?
[11:23] <Novus> 2 fingers?
[11:24] <PrincessLuna> Novus: Does not work. In Windows 8 and android its long press
[11:27] <Novus> ah good to know
[11:28] <Novus> holy shit,.. something funyn just happend
[11:29] <Novus> So,.. I was workign for this company and my boss was a complete idoit and highers idoits....
[11:29] <Novus> I should mention because of this I no longer work there
[11:30] <Novus> I was written up in a matter of weekes cause I called someone "GoofY"
[11:30] <Novus> Anyway,.. the funny part is
[11:30] <Tm_T> Novus: wrong channel
[11:30] <Novus> the alarm company just called me and wanted to know if I wanted to "stop the police" from going to an alarm situation at the office
[11:31] <Novus> offchat?
[11:31] <palasso> Novus, this channel is for support on Kubuntu. For off-topic discussions you can use #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:31] <Novus> ;)
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:47] <roland> does anyone have a problem where, resizing konsole window crashes KDE? (12.10 with latest updates)
[12:01] <roland> it seems it's a known problem... related to videocard driver
[12:06] <nexus`> anyone have a clue why i cant install kubuntu on vmware
[12:06] <nexus`> i can install any other OS
[12:06] <nexus`> even ubuntu
[12:06] <nexus`> but kubuntu is a no go
[12:07] <lordievader> nexus`: Could you elaborate why it doesn't install? What kind of errors do you get?
[12:07] <nexus`> i just cant see anything
[12:07] <nexus`> no GUI or CLI
[12:07] <nexus`> i guess i can install ubuntu and do an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:15] <murthy> hello everyone
[12:18] <murthy> BluesKaj: hi
[12:25] <Artakha> i'm getting te same problem here
[12:25] <Artakha> trying to install kubuntu.. first with an usb drive i'm getting boot errors
[12:25] <Artakha> trying with qemu i'm getting a black screen with a cursor
[12:26] <lordievader> nexus`: Can't you see anything when booting the live-cd? Or after you've installed it?
[12:26] <Artakha> i guess i'll try the ubuntu approach too
[12:26] <nexus`> booting the livecd lordievader
[12:26] <nexus`> i see the um
[12:26] <nexus`> waiting screen
[12:26] <nexus`> where it says kubuntu
[12:26] <nexus`> then has the dots under neath
[12:26] <FloodBotK1> nexus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:27] <nexus`> then after a few seconds it goes blank
[12:27] <Artakha> yeah i see that too
[12:27] <nexus`> pitch black
[12:27] <Artakha> i see a cursor
[12:27] <Artakha> but otherwise just black
[12:27] <nexus`> yea me too Artakha
[12:27] <nexus`> the kubuntu cursor
[12:27] <nexus`> are u on a VM too?
[12:27] <Artakha> qemu
[12:27] <nexus`> qemu?
[12:27] <lordievader> nexus`: Can you by any change go to a tty?
[12:27] <Artakha> qemu's a vm
[12:27] <nexus`> nope lordievader
[12:27] <Artakha> i'm outright getting boot errors if i try to just boot it
[12:28] <nexus`> i get nothing but a blank screen and a cursor
[12:28] <nexus`> maybe 12.10 doesnt work with VM's
[12:28] <nexus`> since Artakha is getting the same problem
[12:28] <lordievader> nexus`: It should (or at least I think so), not being able to access the tty, is that due to limitation of vmware or Kubuntu itself?
[12:29] <nexus`> kubuntu
[12:29] <nexus`> i cant do anything with it
[12:30] <nexus`> anyway Artakha installing ubuntu and doing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop works
[12:30] <Artakha> alright i'll go for that then
[12:30] <nexus`> just log out and select kde
[12:30] <lordievader> nexus`: Annoying workaround: install ubuntu server and then installing the kubuntu-desktop package.
[12:30] <nexus`> then log back in
[12:30] <nexus`> yea already have lordievader
[12:30] <nexus`> that works
[12:30] <nexus`> annoying that kubuntu doesnt wanna work though
[12:30] <nexus`> gonna try xubuntu here shortly
[12:30] <FloodBotK1> nexus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:31] <lordievader> nexus`: Still I recommend taking Ubuntu server instead of the default Ubuntu, less gnome/unity stuff :)
[12:32] <Artakha> aha?
[12:32] <Artakha> what's the difference between ubuntu server and the regular one exactly? just less gui things?
[12:33] <lordievader> Artakha: Ubuntu server comes without a GUI.
[12:33] <nexus`> a lot less stuff Artakha
[12:33] <Artakha> ah good
[12:33] <Artakha> i'll grab that, then
[12:33] <BluesKaj> no gui if you choose the headless
[12:33] <nexus`> also i did use server lordievader
[12:33] <nexus`> i already had the iso since i use ubuntu server on all of my servers
[12:34] <Unit193> Easier to get mini.iso, that way you don't have any unneeded server applications.
[12:34] <Artakha> oh blargh
[12:34] <Artakha> it's giving me an amd64 iso
[12:34] <nexus`> not really Unit193
[12:34] <nexus`> what is Artakha
[12:34] <lordievader> Whee, so many options :)
[12:34] <Artakha> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server this
[12:34] <Unit193> nexus`: How so?
[12:35] <Artakha> i guess i could grab the lts release but at that point i could just as well get the regular ubuntu
[12:35] <nexus`> get choose 32bit...
[12:35] <nexus`> in the dropdown
[12:35] <nexus`> get 12.04
[12:35] <nexus`> its better anyway since its LTS
[12:35] <FloodBotK1> nexus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:35] <nexus`> because a lot of the stuff server comes with is needed Unit193
[12:35] <Artakha> meh i don't mind upgrading
[12:35] <lordievader> Artakha: http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=server&bits=32&release=latesr
[12:36] <nexus`> Artakha: for server LTS is the way to go
[12:36] <Artakha> but i want a kubuntu desktop, not a server :P
[12:36] <nexus`> dont think anyone can argue that
[12:36] <nexus`> well if u prefer 12.10 lordievader just gave you a link
[12:36] <Artakha> yeah i'll go with that
[12:36] <nexus`> i just personally prefer 12.04
[12:36] <Artakha> thanks a bunch
[12:36] <nexus`> ill let u guys know if xubuntu works
[12:37] <BluesKaj> kubuntu desktop runs nicely on 12.10
[12:37] <lordievader> nexus`: We're happy with Kubuntu ;)
[12:37] <nexus`> lordievader: i just meant to compare with kubuntu
[12:37] <Artakha> cool, 80 megs less to download
[12:37] <nexus`> to see if it is a kubuntu problem or a problem with anything but regular ubuntu on VM's
[12:37] <lordievader> BluesKaj: They have the problem that 12.10 does not run inside VMware... :(
[12:38] <Artakha> hm, 20 minutes to download
[12:38]  * Artakha waltzes afk
[12:38] <BluesKaj> well, then ask in VMware :) , tired of ppl afraid to take a risk and do a real install
[12:38] <Artakha> thanks for the help guys
[12:38] <nexus`> BluesKaj: im not afraid
[12:39] <Artakha> BluesKaj, i tried to install normally
[12:39] <nexus`> i just only have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard
[12:39] <Artakha> it refuses to boot
[12:39] <Artakha> so i tried qemu as a last-ditch effort
[12:39] <nexus`> also you know VM's are there for a reason
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Artakha, my recommendation is to forget virtual unless absolutely necessary for on the job requirements , otherwise do a proper install
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Artakha, if a VM is a requirement then install ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop and do the pure kde commands
[12:43] <BluesKaj> !pure-kde
[12:44] <nexus`> lordievader: xubuntu works
[12:44] <nexus`> so its a kubuntu problem
[12:44] <BluesKaj> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu , Artakha
[12:44] <lordievader> nexus`: Have you tried the 12.04.2 version of Kubuntu in a VM?
[12:44] <nexus`> nope
[12:44] <nexus`> where is it
[12:45] <nexus`> all i saw was 12.10
[12:45] <lordievader> nexus`: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download-lts
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Artakha, or idf you want a kubuntu install try my above suggestion without the VM ...I had to use that method a while back and it worked great
[12:49] <nexus`> lordievader: let ya know in about 30 minutes
[13:05] <nexus`> lordievader: looks like 12.04 doesnt work either
[13:05] <nexus`> http://snapplr.com/yfrd thats all i can see
[13:07] <lordievader> nexus`: It freezes there?
[13:07] <nexus`> yep
[13:07] <nexus`> and when i shut it down and start it up
[13:07] <nexus`> all i can see is a _
[13:07] <nexus`> black background. doesnt work in VM's apparently
[13:07] <nexus`> oh well
[13:08] <lordievader> nexus`: A real install is not an option?
[13:08] <nexus`> na
[13:08] <nexus`> not at this point
[13:08] <nexus`> im on an iMac
[13:08] <nexus`> only got bluetooth mouse/keyboard
[13:08] <nexus`> cant install any linux
[13:11] <soee> anyoen using rsibreak ?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> soee, what's rsibreak ?
[13:12] <soee> BluesKaj, app to count activity time and set short/long breaks for you
[13:15] <BluesKaj> yeah , I see now , soee ..too late for me , probly gonna need carpal tunnel surgery soon . Can't blame the mouse and KB entirely for this tho , playing drums also causes the same condititon
[13:36] <KomiaPoika> hi
[13:36] <KomiaPoika> is there a program as good as lightroom3 or lightroom4 in linux?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> KomiaPoika, what kind of app is that ?
[13:36] <KomiaPoika> adobe lightroom to edit pictures in a batch
[13:37] <KomiaPoika> i know of darktable but it's mostly to edit raw's
[13:38] <lordievader> KomiaPoika: In my opinion there is not, Lightroom is one of my reasons to keep Windows on my laptop.
[13:38] <Artakha> bleh, tried to boot the ubuntu server from my usb drive
[13:39] <KomiaPoika> lordievader: did you ever try darktable?
[13:39] <Artakha> it just farted "no operating system" and dropped down to the hard drive :P
[13:39] <Artakha> this is getting quite annoying
[13:39] <lordievader> KomiaPoika: No I haven't, is it any good?
[13:40] <lordievader> Artakha: How did you try to make the usb drive?
[13:40] <KomiaPoika> lordievader: didn't try it yet, but it presents itself as the lightroom alternative for linux
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Artakha, dunno if you noticed my suggestion above , about installing ubuntu then doing the the pure kde commands to get kubuntu
[13:41] <Artakha> BluesKaj, that's what i'm trying to do
[13:42] <Artakha> lordievader, formatted with mkfs.ext3 and installed with unetbootin
[13:43] <lordievader> Artakha: Did you try it with the Usb Creator (not sure if you are running Ubuntu <- standard installed in there)
[13:43] <Artakha> running debian lenny right now
[13:43] <BluesKaj> Artakha, no cdrom? , usb installs seem to have probs and bugs
[13:44] <Artakha> BluesKaj, no cds at hand right now
[13:45] <jussi> how does one change the oxygen style so that I have square buttons not round?
[13:48] <KomiaPoika> can you put the task bar on top in kubuntu 12.10?
[13:49] <Torch> you can in KDE, so why not in 12.10? ;-)
[13:50] <jussi> KomiaPoika: yes, you can
[13:51] <jussi> KomiaPoika: right click the bar, panel options, panel settings, then click and drag the screen edge button
[14:21] <KomiaPoika> jussi: thanks
[14:27] <KomiaPoika> is the ubuntu 12.10 default interface gnome?
[14:27] <lordievader> KomiaPoika: Unity, a UI based on Gnome.
[14:28] <BluesKaj> KomiaPoika, unity is the default in ubuntu afaik
[14:33] <KomiaPoika> so which is better now really, unity or the lastest kde with kubuntu?
[14:33] <lordievader> KomiaPoika: We here would (ofcourse) say Kubuntu, in #ubuntu they would say Ubuntu/Unity is better...
[14:34] <KomiaPoika> fair enough
[14:35] <KomiaPoika> bye
[14:54] <jman074> i got disconnecte
[14:54] <jman074> how do i dowload oracle java from terminal
[14:56] <ben___> apt-get install <packagename>
[14:57] <ben___> or go to website, download it, then read the install file in the downloaded file
[14:59] <mandoguit> sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[15:00] <ben___> mandoguit you have to not put sudo in the first go around
[15:01] <ben___> so you can use <sudo !!> the second time lol
[15:01] <lordievader> ben___: To install you allways need sudo rights, for apt-cache you don't need sude.
[15:02] <rberg> Is oracle java in the repos? I didnt think so.. webupd8 has a nice package that grabs the bin from oracle and installs it in within the package manager
[15:03] <lordievader> jman074: Download the tar-ball from here: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en
[15:06] <ben___> theres a bunch of the libs in the repos but the jdk or sdk isn't in there
[15:07] <ben___> there are Mono libs though
[15:29] <jman074> lord you still here
[15:29] <jman074> lord what do you think about this
[15:29] <jman074> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Oracle-Java-in-Ubuntu-309861.shtml
[15:31] <lordievader> jman074: I don't use java (of any kind), so no idea. I do remember just grabbing the tar-ball and following oracles (was sun back then) instructions on installing it.
[15:34] <murthy> -> dinner
[15:38] <jman074> okay im trying to take classes and firefox says i need some plugins to view all media on the site. :( someone told me to download oracle do yo know of a way around it. but first of all what was the way to type in terminal to get sys info
[15:39] <BluesKaj> some workplaces insist on oracle java due to contractual and technical reasons
[15:39] <lordievader> jman074: Firefox usually tries to find the pugin itself, is Java one of those plugins it cannot find?
[15:40] <jman074> it searched for like twelve hours
[15:40] <lordievader> jman074: Download the tar-ball from here, the instructions are next to the download link: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en
[15:40] <rberg> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[15:41] <rberg> much easier.. it does all the update-alternatives for you
[15:43] <BluesKaj> or this jman074 , http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/index-137561.html
[15:43] <jman074> thanks guys appreciate it. how do i know if i have 32 or 64 bit
[15:44] <BluesKaj> jman074, uname -a in the terminal
[15:44] <lordievader> jman074: Run "arch" from the command line.
[15:45] <jman074> sweet so run the linux x64 or linux 64 rpm
[15:45] <BluesKaj> x86_64 means you have 64
[15:46] <BluesKaj> not rpm , look for a .deb
[15:46] <lordievader> jman074: You need the tar-ball (tar.gz), not the rpm, rmp is for red-hat for example.
[15:46] <lordievader> BluesKaj: The page I gave him doesn't provide debs... :(
[15:46] <BluesKaj> then self extracting
[15:47] <jman074> sorry lord i don't understand what is tar.gz
[15:47] <jman074> i don't see it
[15:48] <lordievader> jman074: It's the non rpm option :P
[15:48] <jman074> lol
[15:48] <BluesKaj> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en , has self extracting container
[15:49] <lordievader> BluesKaj: We probably mean the same thing ;)
[15:49] <jman074> okay lord here we go gonna try this wish me luck
[15:49] <lordievader> jman074: No luck required, you probably have the dependencies.
[15:50] <jman074> i hate new computers. its like a car its not good till its broke in right
[15:52] <jman074> lord when it finishes downloading it it do the rest
[15:52] <lordievader> jman074: Check the instructions page, it is next to the download link.
[15:53] <jman074> i did that then i seen another link for ubuntu looks like spanish or french j/k
[15:54] <lordievader> jman074: It's this one: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml
[15:55] <jman074> yeh i at that but on that page there is another link for ubuntu
[15:56] <lordievader> jman074: Hey now you mention it, you could also go with that route.
[15:57] <jman074> i already started downloading the tar.gz one and when i click on ubuntu it has another file errr if i follow the directions on the first page it will still work right/
[15:57] <jman074> ?
[15:58] <lordievader> jman074: Can you try that sentence again, I'm not following. You started downloading the tar-ball, and then?
[16:00] <jman074> is it going to make any diff if i install targz file or do i have to click on the ubuntu link and do it that way
[16:02] <lordievader> jman074: Version number, perhaps. But nothing major I recon.
[16:02] <jman074> i got this link from the file i started downloadinghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[16:14] <jman074> so i did ubuntu way and it took me to software center how bout that
[16:14] <jman074> lol
[16:14] <jman074> :-/
[16:16] <BluesKaj> BBL
[16:44] <PrincessLuna> How can you right click?
[16:47] <casper_> selam
[16:47] <PrincessLuna> I mean right click using a touch screen
[16:48] <kbana> shalom
[17:25] <SouL_> Hello guys and girls
[17:25] <SouL_> Someone knows why the brightness goes darker without touching it sometimes?
[17:25] <SouL_> Laptop.
[17:28] <rosco_y> SouL_: sounds like your power settings are kicking in and dimming the panel
[17:28] <rosco_y> or am I missing the point
[17:29] <SouL_> Oh..
[17:29] <SouL_> Sometimes I'm working and the "light" goes off
[17:29] <SouL_> I configured it on systemsettings but now I don't know why
[17:29] <SouL_> Thanks for answer by the way, rosco_y :)
[17:30] <rosco_y> :) sure, glad to be able to help once in awhile--I sure get a lot of help around here :)
[17:30] <rosco_y> don't think I'd make it without my irc software.....
[17:47] <test_> hi there, using raring and have now a problem.... I unexpectedly ended up at lightdm login in screen, despite having auto-login set...... whenever I login now, I do end up back at lightdm login. I already tried to dpkg-reconfigure lightdm and still the same.... then I replaced lightdm with kdm and same behaviour there
[18:02] <jman074> hello everyone
[18:02] <jman074> lord you available
[18:03] <lordievader> jman074: Jup, I'm here.
[18:03] <Mamarok> jman074: do you have more than one desktop isntalled? Then this is absolutely normal, how else do you want to change desktop?
[18:04] <lordievader> jman074: Btw use my full nick (use autocomplete :)), in that way I get a ping.
[18:04] <jman074> um no just one desktop and it has four work spaces
[18:04] <jman074> okay
[18:05] <test_> hi Mamarok
[18:05] <jman074> lordievader i got the java to work. but i boo booed. when the applet is loading it says i chose not to trust it. i would like to trust it now lol
[18:06] <lordievader> jman074: As I said earlier, I do not use java. No idea how to change those settings.
[18:07] <jman074> i think that is a browser settting got somthing to do with the certificates. i loaded the page again but it says the same thing.
[18:08] <Mausschubser> #requonk
[18:08] <Mamarok> test_: sorry, that was actually meant for you
[18:09] <Mamarok> jman074: sorry, I misdirected my answer
[18:12] <lordievader> Be right back, got to do some dishes.
[18:21] <lordievader> Back.
[18:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> question about the kde desktop in relation to the gnome-desktop
[18:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> in gnome the menu items are sorted by their *.desktop files "Categories" line, is it such in kubuntu?
[18:30] <Mamarok> ntzrmtthihu777: you want to know if the Menu in KDE has categories? Of course :) And there are not that many ways to sort those
[18:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Mamarok: Sorry, was afk. what I mean is are they sorted by the same mechanism?
[19:15] <Kazoey> How do I register my nick again?
[19:16] <Mamarok> !register
[19:17] <Mamarok> Kazoey: see the link above
[19:17] <Korrosion> Thank you
[19:24] <jman074> is any one using open jdk java
[19:26] <jman074> im running open jdk java 7 how do i delete temp internet files"applications and applets"
[19:30] <rberg> Hello, I am on kde 4.10.1 and new multi-monitor daemon is working really well, is there any way to have it not prompt me to to run the configuration tool every time? it just works (so far)
[19:34] <murthy> bbl
[20:00] <palasso> Anyone knows what #kubuntu-bugs is for? It doesn't have a topic title. Does it correlate to what #ubuntu-bugs is? It's not on this list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[20:01] <Mamarok> palasso: is there actually somebody in there?
[20:07] <jman074> im running openjdk java 7 anyone know how to trust applets or delete temp internet files
[20:15] <palasso> Mamarok, 5+ ppl
[20:17] <Mamarok> palasso: this is only a channel where bugs are listed by a bot, so unless you are into bug fixing it will not be very useful for you
[20:17] <palasso> Mamarok, sometimes I report bugs ;)
[20:18] <Mamarok> well, it is still no sue for you as the channel is not for reporting bugs
[20:18] <Mamarok> no use*
[20:18] <Mamarok> there is a bot that lists new incoming bugs, so it is only useful for people who fix bugs
[20:19] <palasso> I am logged in for 10 hours in this channel and there was no activity
[20:19] <Mamarok> because there were no bugs reported against kubuntu on launchpad
[20:20] <Mamarok> kde bugs are reported upstream so that channel will not have much traffic
[20:20] <palasso> Should some OP create a topic title so it'd be more straightforward for ppl like me for what it's for?
[20:20] <Mamarok> no, why? it is only useful to insiders, there is a reason why it is not lsited
[20:20] <palasso> In order to have a hint on what it might be I went to #ubuntu-bugs to see that topic title
[20:20] <Mamarok> how did you end up in there anyway?
[20:21] <palasso> I just searched for kde and kubuntu channels on freenode and noticed that #ubuntu-bugs is on the list while #kubuntu-bugs isn't
[20:21] <palasso> I mean on the wiki list
[20:21] <Mamarok> well, as I said, that is for a reason
[20:22] <Mamarok> and I just explained it to you, didn't I?
[20:22] <palasso> That it's only useful to insiders
[20:22] <Mamarok> and what it is for and why it is not lsited
[20:22] <Mamarok> listed*
[20:23] <palasso> It's for listing new bugs that are filled on LP for Kubuntu
[20:24] <Mamarok> yes, that's what I told you, isn't it? So no need to repeat :)
[20:24] <palasso> Sorry I thought you asked me
[20:24] <Mamarok> no, that was rethoric English
[20:25] <palasso> To tell you the truth I still don't understand why #ubuntu-bugs is on the wiki list while #kubuntu-bugs isn't (and why the one has topic title while the other doesn't). In other words why they are treated somewhat different
[20:27] <yofel> palasso: #kubuntu-bugs isn't really used these days anymore. #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-bugs are sufficient
[20:27] <palasso> I see. thnx yofel for the info :)
[20:27] <Mamarok> and why was my explanation not sufficient?
[20:27] <yofel> the announcement part is done on the ~kubuntu-bugs team mailing list on launchpad. For all of ubuntu there's #ubuntu-bugs-announce
[20:28] <Mamarok> oh well...
[20:28] <palasso> Nice, I'll look into it ;)
[20:28] <palasso> Mamarok, no worries. You explained to me some things ;)
[20:29] <Mamarok> then why did you ask the same question again? seriously...
[20:29] <palasso> I didn't find it to be the same question. But let's leave it here. There is no reason to argue :)
[21:58] <jman074> lordievader
[21:58] <lordievader> jman074: Yes?
[21:58] <jman074> hey there
[21:58] <lordievader> jman074: Good evening.
[21:59] <jman074> im having trouble unpacking and installing the tarball into the /usr/local directory
[21:59] <jman074> i figured out how to change to that directory but i don't know how to move the file there and install it
[21:59] <lordievader> jman074: First extract it to a dir you have write acces to, your home dir or something.
[22:00] <jman074> one sec and i will do that
[22:01] <jman074> extracted
[22:02] <lordievader> jman074: In what directory?
[22:02] <jman074> home directory into the downloads folder
[22:03] <lordievader> jman074: Hm... Ok, in a terminal change to that folder.
[22:04] <jman074> would that be cd /home
[22:05] <lordievader> jman074: No, "cd /home/<user-name>/Downloads"
[22:05] <lordievader> jman074: Where does the folder need to go?
[22:05] <jman074> i doesn't really i just need to install it
[22:06] <lordievader> jman074: You just asked me how to move it to some folder...
[22:07] <jman074> yes we extracted to a folder now we need to install
[22:07] <lordievader> jman074: Are you following a guide?
[22:08] <jman074> yes
[22:09] <jman074> now it says move .tar.gz archive binary to current directory
[22:09] <lordievader> jman074: Can you link me to the guide?
[22:09] <jman074> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml#install
[22:10] <jman074> the ubuntu one didn't work so im just doin the origional linux
[22:10] <murthy__> lordievader: whats your time zone?
[22:13] <lordievader> jman074: Can you give me a link?
[22:14] <jman074>  http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml#install
[22:15] <lordievader> jman074: Does the folder /usr/java exist (should be /usr/share/java IMHO)
[22:16] <murthy__> lordievader: late for you? got some time?
[22:17] <jman074> /usr/shar/java is a directory
[22:17] <lordievader> murthy__: Depends, is it something bit?
[22:17] <lordievader> big*
[22:17] <murthy__> lordievader: to the devs
[22:18] <lordievader> jman074: Good, "sudo mv /home/<user-name>/Downloads/<extracted-java-folder>/ /usr/share/java/"
[22:18] <lordievader> murthy__: To the devs? I'm no dev...
[22:24] <jman074> says no such file or directory
[22:24] <lordievader> jman074: You replaced the things between the < > with the correct information?
[22:24] <jman074> yes
[22:25] <lordievader> jman074: And what you just said about /usr/share/java is correct too?
[22:25] <jman074> yes
[22:28] <lordievader> jman074: Then there is probably a typo in the way you copied the command, note there is space between "java-folder>/" and "/usr/...."
[22:28] <jman074> yeh i copied good
[22:28] <jman074> ill try once more
[22:29] <murthy__> lordievader: good night
[22:29] <lordievader> Sleep wel, murthy__
[22:30] <jman074> still no go
[22:30] <jman074> bash: jman074: No such file or directory
[22:31] <lordievader> jacky: Can you show what you are exactly typing?
[22:32] <lordievader> Sorry jacky, misdirected.
[22:32] <lordievader> jman074: ^
[22:33] <jman074> jman074@sniper:~$ sudo mv /home/<jman074>/Downloads/<jre1.7.0_17>/ /usr/share/java/
[22:34] <lordievader> jman074: Remove the < and >, then you have a hit!
[22:34] <jman074> i feel slow
[22:36] <jman074> jman074@sniper:~$ sudo mv /home/<jman074>/Downloads/<jre1.7.0_17>/ /usr/share/java/
[22:36] <jman074> ignore that
[22:36] <Mamarok> jman074: remove those < and >, you shouldn't sue those in folder names
[22:36] <jman074> jman074@sniper:~$ sudo mv/home/jman074/downloads/jre1.7.0_17/ /usr/share/java/
[22:36] <jman074> [sudo] password for jman074:
[22:36] <jman074> sudo: mv/home/jman074/downloads/jre1.7.0_17/: command not found
[22:37] <Mamarok> and there is a typo, space after mv missing
[22:37] <Mamarok> sudo mv /home/ etc
[22:37] <lordievader> jman074: And it is Downloads, linux is case-sensitive.
[22:37] <jman074> okay pray for me here we go
[22:37] <stacky> can anyone please let me know if there is a solution to the failure in configuring interface of wifi on Broadcom BCM4313 802.11b\g\n in kubuntu 12.10... i have already tried ndiswrapper
[22:39] <jman074> i think it worked now what
[22:39] <uglyoldbob> what do I need to do to get a copy of nslookup that supports ls?
[22:40] <lordievader> jman074: Delete the tar.gz file and you're done, according to your guide.
[22:40] <jman074> hmmm
[22:43] <jman074> where is the tar.gz file at now
[22:43] <stacky> please anyone .... configuring Broadcom BCM4313 802.11b\g\n on kubuntu 12.10
[22:43] <lordievader> jman074: You saved it somewhere ;)
[22:44] <jman074> thanks for putting up with me i don't know what i would do without you lol
[22:45] <lordievader> Hehe, it's allright jman074. I'm glad I could help.
[22:45] <Mamarok> stacky: I don't know, and Broadcom is not exactly Linux-friendly
[22:45] <Mamarok> stacky: patience, if somebody knows they will answer
[22:45] <vincents_mob> help please i can't access kde anymore i think its something to do with my screen
[22:46] <stacky> Mamarok:  OK :)
[22:47] <lordievader> I'm off to bed, sleep well.
[22:49] <vincents_mob> when i try apt get kubuntu-settings-desktop i get nessesary kubuntu-qtquick1-components but is not installable and error holding defect packages
[22:52] <uglyoldbob> ok it seems "dig axfr" accomplishes what i need
[23:56] <marocain> hi