=== da is now known as dahlia === IRapeCats is now known as numnum === MrSmith is now known as Guest70815 [00:37] olá [00:51] Hey guys I am just wondering this process looks suspicious to me [00:51] 1648 nobody 20 0 12816 1036 632 S 0.0 0.0 0:03.01 /usr/sbin/tcpspy -U nobody -G nogroup -f /etc/tcpspy.rules [00:52] what the heck is going on? [00:53] how does one enable the cube in kubuntu? [00:55] got it [00:59] nell: tcpspy is available through repo's so would imagine it's legit aptitude search tcpspy [00:59] p tcpspy - Incoming and Outgoing TCP/IP connections logge [00:59] tcpspy:i386 - Incoming and Outgoing TCP/IP connections logge [00:59] hmm.....that could have been formatted a bit better :P === numnum is now known as Not_A_Cop === Not_A_Cop is now known as numnum === Guest73640 is now known as Freejack_ [05:23] hey guys [05:23] i just tried to install kubuntu [05:24] but apparently it doesnt support bluetooth by default [05:24] i dont have a non bluetooth keyboard is there anyway i can install this? [05:29] hmmm, I thought bluetooth worked out of the box [05:29] nexus`: do you have a mouse? [05:30] yea valorie [05:30] but i got to the part where it was trying to force me to type in a name for the computer [05:30] I use a laptop, so it's hard to imagine having no keyboard! [05:30] couldnt get passed it [05:30] gads [05:31] is there a way i can get into CLI on installation? [05:31] sudo apt-get install bluetooth bluez-utils bluez-gnome [05:31] can use that then [05:31] sure, but it's alt-control f2 [05:31] from the keyboard [05:32] I wonder if there is an on screen keyboard by default [05:33] dunno [05:33] there is, but how to get it onscreen [05:33] it's called 'virtual' [05:34] I used alt+f2 [05:35] didn't seem to work well with my touchpad though === julian is now known as Guest40843 === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe === pjoe is now known as pjoe_dj [08:08] hello everyone [08:08] Hey qianlong, how are you? [08:38] hey [08:39] i have lately been experiencing random reboots, whats the place to start trableshootin? dmesg? well i dont rly know what to look for... [08:40] by random reboots, do you mean your machine restarts itself? [08:40] n8w: ^^ [08:40] Hi, how can I right click in KDE with a touchscreen. Holding down the finger doesn't work like in Windows 8 and Android. [08:40] I've never heard of that [08:40] n8w: Syslog and dmesg are a good place to start, yes. [08:43] Hello. [08:45] I have a Digitazz wireless dongle with Ralink RT5370 stuff, but linux can't use it, and the only driver I found was a perl script, that has an error in it, what should I do? [08:46] ... [08:47] valorie, ye... [08:48] lordievader, yes thx...i have found something in syslog...but its strange [08:48] n8w: Does it happen on a specific time? [08:48] lordievader, nope...this one happened after 347 hours of uptime [08:49] Any suggestions on how to right click with a touchscreen? [08:49] lordievader, its stilla random reboot...see, the device im talking about is IoT gateway...so i need to make sure that this doesnt happen again [08:51] n8w: IoT something internet related, I take. Anyhow what does the syslog say? Can you pastebin it? [08:51] !pastebin | n8w [08:51] n8w: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [08:52] lordievader, i have also got remote logging(cpu usage,cpu temp etc), so i can see the exact time when the machine wen down [08:52] ... [08:52] PrincessLuna: Touchscreen, plasma-active? [08:52] I am calm. [08:52] lordievader, the machine went down at 6:33:17 this morning and the first entry in syslog is : Mar 12 06:34:17 localhost syslogd (GNU inetutils 1.5): restart [08:53] lordievader, nothin before that.... [08:53] lordievader, i mean, yes there r entries, but from fabruary:/ [08:53] lordievader: Would that right click? [08:54] lordievader: I haven't tried plasma-active yet and this computer has a keyboard, touch pad and pointing stick as well. It can be used as a tablet too. [08:54] PrincessLuna: No I'm just asking, since there is a Plasma-active channel here on freenode (#active). If it is plasma-active that you are running, you might ask there. [08:55] ... [08:55] PrincessLuna: Ah, if it is a pc then you are probaly not runnign plasma-active. [08:55] PrincessLuna: Plasma-active is tablet stuff. [08:56] hi, testing 13.04 on one of my machines, i cannot log into kde anymore. [08:56] n8w: Syslogd should be just the syslog daemon, this should not reboot your system. However, if it fails to restart you loose your syslogging... it might be related to your problem. [08:56] lordievader: I know but you can install plasma active on it and theoretically it should work. [08:57] kdm.log shows me: http://pastie.org/private/juaksgr8tulwh0lhbpg6a ... it seems that it cannot connect to dbus [08:57] any idea how to resolve it? [08:57] lordievader, im not saying that syslogd has caused the shutdown...but its weird that there is nothin before the actual reboot... [08:57] ... [08:58] lordievader, i mean, no entries indicating that smth is about to happen [08:58] n8w: That is why I said it, syslog might fail. What happens after that is not logged anymore. [08:59] !patience | BronySXiYL [08:59] BronySXiYL: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait. [08:59] I am patient, and the forums don;t help. [08:59] lordievader, the reboor happened before the syslog went down [09:00] The only thing I was doing was saying "..." every now and then. [09:00] BronySXiYL: which is unnecessary and only creates noise [09:01] Sorry, I don't know everything. [09:01] n8w: Are you monitoring temperatures? Mainly CPU and HDDs? [09:01] lordievader, yes cpu temp and motherboard temp as well [09:02] BronySXiYL: I can't help with your dongle, sorry [09:02] No? :( [09:03] n8w: Ok, what are they, if I may ask? [09:03] well, it's not very common, and it has nothing to do with Kubuntu, it is a general linux problem [09:04] Ah. [09:04] BronySXiYL: so you better ask in a more specific channel, might just be that the hardware just doesn't work in Linux, or contact the script author [09:05] Okay. [09:05] I've searched for the specific hardware and it seems to be working for others === ivan_ is now known as Guest15530 === BronySXiYL is now known as SudoSudoSudoSu === giovanni is now known as Guest91497 [09:21] buon giorno === Guest91497 is now known as gionnysssss [09:32] lordievader, sry for bein late... [09:33] lordievader, all temps r ok... [09:35] n8w: Hmm that is annoying, somewhere it would be great if that would be the source of the problem... Does the dmesg give something usefull? [09:35] Bit more difficult to search through... [09:36] lordievader, the same as the other logs...there is a gap and the first entry is right after the reboot [09:37] n8w: Harddrive failure? I'm now just thinking of random things. [09:38] lordievader, ye well...my favorite candidate is the RAM [09:38] lordievader, do u think that bein low on mem could cause the system to reboot? [09:38] n8w: Did you test the both of them? [09:38] lordievader, there is a sdcard...so no regular hdd [09:39] n8w: Theoratically there is a chance, if the OOM killer kicks in and kills init (it shouldn't do that) well than things will go wrong... [09:39] n8w: Or there is a script that runs a process and after the process has finished reboots, OOM killer kills the process, script reboots the pc... Again just thinking of things. [09:40] lordievader, i have started remotely monitoring free mem today...so lets see... [09:41] lordievader, ye it sounds as a possibility... [09:41] n8w: You do not have the option of testing the ram (and hdd)? [09:41] lordievader, im reviewin the syslog.conf file now... [10:55] anyone around? [10:55] Me. [10:56] you know about the development of kubuntu? [10:56] Novus: Many are idleing, just ask your question, see !ask for details. [10:57] I'm trying to figure out why for years I have had problems installing Ubuntu and have nothing but issues with it, yet I install Kubuntu and it works fine everytime 100% out of the box? [10:58] you all have your own kernal or something? I mean how closely do you two develop together is at all? [10:58] I'm out of ideas as to why that won't install and frankly I given up on them as I actually think Kubuntu is better anyway [10:58] but I would love to know why it don't work [10:58] Novus: Because Kubuntu is freaking awesome? We use the same kernel as Ubuntu does. [10:59] KDE is awesome! [10:59] Novus: :D [10:59] please for the love of god don't install that unholy of a program Unity in Kubuntu [11:00] between that an Gnome,.. they can both kiss my @** [11:00] thanks Novus [11:01] tho I haven't figured out how to get my wobbly windows on tho, lol [11:01] right click on a window border -> window manager settings [11:02] do i need to install compitz? [11:02] Nope we have Kwin ;) [11:03] aw sweeeet [11:03] Kwin is much better than Compiz (keep in mind I'm biased) [11:03] I am a fan of what works :) [11:03] gimmie one sec [11:03] I am about to take a shit on my ubuntu CD [11:03] and post it in the #ubuntu channel [11:04] i do have a few more questions when I get back tho [11:04] first big one is I am looking for a game engine that works with linux [11:05] i use unity3d now [11:05] Novus: No need to bash Ubuntu, still without Ubuntu, Kubuntu wouldn't be. [11:22] How can I right click with a touchscreen? [11:23] 2 fingers? [11:24] Novus: Does not work. In Windows 8 and android its long press [11:27] ah good to know [11:28] holy shit,.. something funyn just happend [11:29] So,.. I was workign for this company and my boss was a complete idoit and highers idoits.... [11:29] I should mention because of this I no longer work there [11:30] I was written up in a matter of weekes cause I called someone "GoofY" [11:30] Anyway,.. the funny part is [11:30] Novus: wrong channel [11:30] the alarm company just called me and wanted to know if I wanted to "stop the police" from going to an alarm situation at the office [11:31] offchat? [11:31] Novus, this channel is for support on Kubuntu. For off-topic discussions you can use #kubuntu-offtopic [11:31] ;) [11:39] Hiyas all === jayne_ is now known as jayne [11:47] does anyone have a problem where, resizing konsole window crashes KDE? (12.10 with latest updates) [12:01] it seems it's a known problem... related to videocard driver [12:06] anyone have a clue why i cant install kubuntu on vmware [12:06] i can install any other OS [12:06] even ubuntu [12:06] but kubuntu is a no go [12:07] nexus`: Could you elaborate why it doesn't install? What kind of errors do you get? [12:07] i just cant see anything [12:07] no GUI or CLI [12:07] i guess i can install ubuntu and do an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop === murthy_ is now known as murthy [12:15] hello everyone [12:18] BluesKaj: hi [12:25] i'm getting te same problem here [12:25] trying to install kubuntu.. first with an usb drive i'm getting boot errors [12:25] trying with qemu i'm getting a black screen with a cursor [12:26] nexus`: Can't you see anything when booting the live-cd? Or after you've installed it? [12:26] i guess i'll try the ubuntu approach too [12:26] booting the livecd lordievader [12:26] i see the um [12:26] waiting screen [12:26] where it says kubuntu [12:26] then has the dots under neath [12:26] nexus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [12:27] then after a few seconds it goes blank [12:27] yeah i see that too [12:27] pitch black [12:27] i see a cursor [12:27] but otherwise just black [12:27] yea me too Artakha [12:27] the kubuntu cursor [12:27] are u on a VM too? [12:27] qemu [12:27] qemu? [12:27] nexus`: Can you by any change go to a tty? [12:27] qemu's a vm [12:27] nope lordievader [12:27] i'm outright getting boot errors if i try to just boot it [12:28] i get nothing but a blank screen and a cursor [12:28] maybe 12.10 doesnt work with VM's [12:28] since Artakha is getting the same problem [12:28] nexus`: It should (or at least I think so), not being able to access the tty, is that due to limitation of vmware or Kubuntu itself? [12:29] kubuntu [12:29] i cant do anything with it [12:30] anyway Artakha installing ubuntu and doing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop works [12:30] alright i'll go for that then [12:30] just log out and select kde [12:30] nexus`: Annoying workaround: install ubuntu server and then installing the kubuntu-desktop package. [12:30] then log back in [12:30] yea already have lordievader [12:30] that works [12:30] annoying that kubuntu doesnt wanna work though [12:30] gonna try xubuntu here shortly [12:30] nexus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [12:31] nexus`: Still I recommend taking Ubuntu server instead of the default Ubuntu, less gnome/unity stuff :) [12:32] aha? [12:32] what's the difference between ubuntu server and the regular one exactly? just less gui things? [12:33] Artakha: Ubuntu server comes without a GUI. [12:33] a lot less stuff Artakha [12:33] ah good [12:33] i'll grab that, then [12:33] no gui if you choose the headless [12:33] also i did use server lordievader [12:33] i already had the iso since i use ubuntu server on all of my servers [12:34] Easier to get mini.iso, that way you don't have any unneeded server applications. [12:34] oh blargh [12:34] it's giving me an amd64 iso [12:34] not really Unit193 [12:34] what is Artakha [12:34] Whee, so many options :) [12:34] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server this [12:34] nexus`: How so? [12:35] i guess i could grab the lts release but at that point i could just as well get the regular ubuntu [12:35] get choose 32bit... [12:35] in the dropdown [12:35] get 12.04 [12:35] its better anyway since its LTS [12:35] nexus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [12:35] because a lot of the stuff server comes with is needed Unit193 [12:35] meh i don't mind upgrading [12:35] Artakha: http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=server&bits=32&release=latesr [12:36] Artakha: for server LTS is the way to go [12:36] but i want a kubuntu desktop, not a server :P [12:36] dont think anyone can argue that [12:36] well if u prefer 12.10 lordievader just gave you a link [12:36] yeah i'll go with that [12:36] i just personally prefer 12.04 [12:36] thanks a bunch [12:36] ill let u guys know if xubuntu works [12:37] kubuntu desktop runs nicely on 12.10 [12:37] nexus`: We're happy with Kubuntu ;) [12:37] lordievader: i just meant to compare with kubuntu [12:37] cool, 80 megs less to download [12:37] to see if it is a kubuntu problem or a problem with anything but regular ubuntu on VM's [12:37] BluesKaj: They have the problem that 12.10 does not run inside VMware... :( [12:38] hm, 20 minutes to download [12:38] * Artakha waltzes afk [12:38] well, then ask in VMware :) , tired of ppl afraid to take a risk and do a real install [12:38] thanks for the help guys [12:38] BluesKaj: im not afraid [12:39] BluesKaj, i tried to install normally [12:39] i just only have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard [12:39] it refuses to boot [12:39] so i tried qemu as a last-ditch effort [12:39] also you know VM's are there for a reason [12:40] Artakha, my recommendation is to forget virtual unless absolutely necessary for on the job requirements , otherwise do a proper install [12:43] Artakha, if a VM is a requirement then install ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop and do the pure kde commands [12:43] !pure-kde [12:44] lordievader: xubuntu works [12:44] so its a kubuntu problem [12:44] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu , Artakha [12:44] nexus`: Have you tried the 12.04.2 version of Kubuntu in a VM? [12:44] nope [12:44] where is it [12:45] all i saw was 12.10 [12:45] nexus`: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download-lts [12:47] Artakha, or idf you want a kubuntu install try my above suggestion without the VM ...I had to use that method a while back and it worked great [12:49] lordievader: let ya know in about 30 minutes === tobias is now known as Guest65749 === toni_ is now known as Guest29126 [13:05] lordievader: looks like 12.04 doesnt work either [13:05] http://snapplr.com/yfrd thats all i can see [13:07] nexus`: It freezes there? [13:07] yep [13:07] and when i shut it down and start it up [13:07] all i can see is a _ [13:07] black background. doesnt work in VM's apparently [13:07] oh well [13:08] nexus`: A real install is not an option? [13:08] na [13:08] not at this point [13:08] im on an iMac [13:08] only got bluetooth mouse/keyboard [13:08] cant install any linux [13:11] anyoen using rsibreak ? [13:12] soee, what's rsibreak ? [13:12] BluesKaj, app to count activity time and set short/long breaks for you [13:15] yeah , I see now , soee ..too late for me , probly gonna need carpal tunnel surgery soon . Can't blame the mouse and KB entirely for this tho , playing drums also causes the same condititon === kubuntu is now known as Guest42314 === oz__ is now known as aiqa [13:36] hi [13:36] is there a program as good as lightroom3 or lightroom4 in linux? [13:36] KomiaPoika, what kind of app is that ? [13:36] adobe lightroom to edit pictures in a batch [13:37] i know of darktable but it's mostly to edit raw's [13:38] KomiaPoika: In my opinion there is not, Lightroom is one of my reasons to keep Windows on my laptop. [13:38] bleh, tried to boot the ubuntu server from my usb drive [13:39] lordievader: did you ever try darktable? [13:39] it just farted "no operating system" and dropped down to the hard drive :P [13:39] this is getting quite annoying [13:39] KomiaPoika: No I haven't, is it any good? [13:40] Artakha: How did you try to make the usb drive? [13:40] lordievader: didn't try it yet, but it presents itself as the lightroom alternative for linux [13:40] Artakha, dunno if you noticed my suggestion above , about installing ubuntu then doing the the pure kde commands to get kubuntu [13:41] BluesKaj, that's what i'm trying to do [13:42] lordievader, formatted with mkfs.ext3 and installed with unetbootin [13:43] Artakha: Did you try it with the Usb Creator (not sure if you are running Ubuntu <- standard installed in there) [13:43] running debian lenny right now [13:43] Artakha, no cdrom? , usb installs seem to have probs and bugs [13:44] BluesKaj, no cds at hand right now [13:45] how does one change the oxygen style so that I have square buttons not round? [13:48] can you put the task bar on top in kubuntu 12.10? [13:49] you can in KDE, so why not in 12.10? ;-) [13:50] KomiaPoika: yes, you can [13:51] KomiaPoika: right click the bar, panel options, panel settings, then click and drag the screen edge button [14:21] jussi: thanks === zurich is now known as level15 [14:27] is the ubuntu 12.10 default interface gnome? [14:27] KomiaPoika: Unity, a UI based on Gnome. [14:28] KomiaPoika, unity is the default in ubuntu afaik [14:33] so which is better now really, unity or the lastest kde with kubuntu? [14:33] KomiaPoika: We here would (ofcourse) say Kubuntu, in #ubuntu they would say Ubuntu/Unity is better... [14:34] fair enough [14:35] bye [14:54] i got disconnecte [14:54] how do i dowload oracle java from terminal [14:56] apt-get install [14:57] or go to website, download it, then read the install file in the downloaded file === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [14:59] sudo apt-get install [15:00] mandoguit you have to not put sudo in the first go around [15:01] so you can use the second time lol [15:01] ben___: To install you allways need sudo rights, for apt-cache you don't need sude. [15:02] Is oracle java in the repos? I didnt think so.. webupd8 has a nice package that grabs the bin from oracle and installs it in within the package manager [15:03] jman074: Download the tar-ball from here: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en [15:06] theres a bunch of the libs in the repos but the jdk or sdk isn't in there [15:07] there are Mono libs though [15:29] lord you still here [15:29] lord what do you think about this [15:29] http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Oracle-Java-in-Ubuntu-309861.shtml [15:31] jman074: I don't use java (of any kind), so no idea. I do remember just grabbing the tar-ball and following oracles (was sun back then) instructions on installing it. [15:34] -> dinner === murthy is now known as murthy_ [15:38] okay im trying to take classes and firefox says i need some plugins to view all media on the site. :( someone told me to download oracle do yo know of a way around it. but first of all what was the way to type in terminal to get sys info [15:39] some workplaces insist on oracle java due to contractual and technical reasons [15:39] jman074: Firefox usually tries to find the pugin itself, is Java one of those plugins it cannot find? [15:40] it searched for like twelve hours === timblechmann is now known as tim [15:40] jman074: Download the tar-ball from here, the instructions are next to the download link: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en [15:40] http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html [15:41] much easier.. it does all the update-alternatives for you [15:43] or this jman074 , http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/index-137561.html [15:43] thanks guys appreciate it. how do i know if i have 32 or 64 bit [15:44] jman074, uname -a in the terminal [15:44] jman074: Run "arch" from the command line. [15:45] sweet so run the linux x64 or linux 64 rpm [15:45] x86_64 means you have 64 [15:46] not rpm , look for a .deb [15:46] jman074: You need the tar-ball (tar.gz), not the rpm, rmp is for red-hat for example. [15:46] BluesKaj: The page I gave him doesn't provide debs... :( [15:46] then self extracting [15:47] sorry lord i don't understand what is tar.gz [15:47] i don't see it === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] [15:48] jman074: It's the non rpm option :P [15:48] lol [15:48] http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en , has self extracting container [15:49] BluesKaj: We probably mean the same thing ;) [15:49] okay lord here we go gonna try this wish me luck [15:49] jman074: No luck required, you probably have the dependencies. [15:50] i hate new computers. its like a car its not good till its broke in right [15:52] lord when it finishes downloading it it do the rest [15:52] jman074: Check the instructions page, it is next to the download link. [15:53] i did that then i seen another link for ubuntu looks like spanish or french j/k === elena_IK is now known as elena-IK [15:54] jman074: It's this one: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml === spanner is now known as leeder-krenon [15:55] yeh i at that but on that page there is another link for ubuntu [15:56] jman074: Hey now you mention it, you could also go with that route. [15:57] i already started downloading the tar.gz one and when i click on ubuntu it has another file errr if i follow the directions on the first page it will still work right/ [15:57] ? [15:58] jman074: Can you try that sentence again, I'm not following. You started downloading the tar-ball, and then? [16:00] is it going to make any diff if i install targz file or do i have to click on the ubuntu link and do it that way [16:02] jman074: Version number, perhaps. But nothing major I recon. [16:02] i got this link from the file i started downloadinghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [16:14] so i did ubuntu way and it took me to software center how bout that [16:14] lol [16:14] :-/ [16:16] BBL === pjoe_dj is now known as pjoe_afk === murthy_ is now known as murthy === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] [16:44] How can you right click? [16:47] selam [16:47] I mean right click using a touch screen [16:48] shalom === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:25] Hello guys and girls [17:25] Someone knows why the brightness goes darker without touching it sometimes? [17:25] Laptop. [17:28] SouL_: sounds like your power settings are kicking in and dimming the panel [17:28] or am I missing the point [17:29] Oh.. [17:29] Sometimes I'm working and the "light" goes off [17:29] I configured it on systemsettings but now I don't know why [17:29] Thanks for answer by the way, rosco_y :) [17:30] :) sure, glad to be able to help once in awhile--I sure get a lot of help around here :) [17:30] don't think I'd make it without my irc software..... [17:47] hi there, using raring and have now a problem.... I unexpectedly ended up at lightdm login in screen, despite having auto-login set...... whenever I login now, I do end up back at lightdm login. I already tried to dpkg-reconfigure lightdm and still the same.... then I replaced lightdm with kdm and same behaviour there [18:02] hello everyone [18:02] lord you available [18:03] jman074: Jup, I'm here. [18:03]