[05:48] <Fudge> is it common for build time to go up, my package score is 2505 said start in 7 minutes and it has gone up :)
[05:49] <StevenK> Sometimes things can push in front of you, like security builds
[05:50] <Fudge> ah guess that is expected
[06:05] <micahg> Fudge: stuff in flavor packagesets get a small bump as well
[06:13] <Fudge> what is that?
[06:24] <micahg> Fudge: take a look here: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/BuildScores
[06:25] <micahg> hrm, that is excluded from PPA builds, weird
[06:38] <Fudge> lol
[09:17] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:17] <cristian_c> I'd like to change the question category in Answers
[09:17] <cristian_c> https://answers.launchpad.net/lubuntu-default-settings/+question/206269
[09:17] <cristian_c> What is the correct category where I can move it?
[09:18] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:20] <czajkowski> where do you want to move it to
[09:20] <czajkowski> you can't as you're not part of the group which it is under
[09:23] <cristian_c> czajkowski, I'd like to move it in the most appropriate category
[09:24] <czajkowski> you keep saying on the answer you want to reopen the issue, what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[09:25] <cristian_c> czajkowski, I opened the question because after a few days it was closed
[09:26] <czajkowski> it wasnt after a few days it times out with no activity
[09:26] <czajkowski> I've moved it under ubuntu as there are people who look at that area
[09:26] <czajkowski> under lubuntu there was only you subscribed to it
[09:26] <czajkowski> however for future reference commenting on it to reopen it won't help
[09:27] <cristian_c> czajkowski, and how can I do?
[09:29] <czajkowski> there was only you on the question, nobody else was going to comment on it.
[09:32] <cristian_c> czajkowski, I did not know that it was necessary to be part of a group to be able to ask the questions in launchpad
[09:32] <czajkowski> well it's more nobody from lubuntu is subscribed to it
[09:35] <cristian_c> czajkowski, how can I do so? :)
[09:37] <czajkowski> you can't
[09:37] <czajkowski> I've added your question under Ubuntu
[09:38] <cristian_c> czajkowski, ok, but the ubuntu team is not interested to manage lubuntu :)
[09:38] <czajkowski> not really true tbh. anyways if not you could always post your question to a lubutu mailing list
[09:39] <cristian_c> czajkowski, thanks for the moving
[09:39] <cristian_c> :)
[09:39] <cristian_c> czajkowski, ok, I posted the answers in the lubuntu mailing list, but I knew anything :(
[09:40] <cristian_c> *the answer
[09:41] <cristian_c> czajkowski, 12/10/18
[11:37] <xnox> czajkowski: please remove "Tcl" (upstream like lp project) from bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/tcl8.5/+bug/1122120 but keep Debian/Ubuntu (package like) tasks open.
[11:39] <StevenK> Hm, I can't remove it
[11:40] <xnox> I'm sure czajkowski has the super powers =)
[11:44] <czajkowski> xnox: StevenK has way more than me
[11:46] <StevenK> Wrong, I'm not a commercial admin
[11:47] <StevenK> czajkowski: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tcl/+bug/1122120/+delete will do it, I've removed the bug link from it
[11:47] <StevenK> I get forbidden
[12:57] <ahasenack> hi, I need help in changing a bug, it needs to apply to the landscape-client project, not landscape-server, but launchpad doesn't let me change that
[12:57] <ahasenack> LP says
[12:57] <ahasenack> Error
[12:57] <ahasenack> Bad Request
[12:57] <ahasenack> Landscape Client doesn't allow Proprietary bugs.
[12:57] <ahasenack> the bug is #1153783
[12:57] <ahasenack> and I can't set it to non-proprietary either, the little pen icon in the top right just shows the current status, doesn't let me change it
[12:58] <czajkowski> hmm
[12:59] <czajkowski> ahasenack: the set up on sharing in client doesnt seem to allow it to accept a private bug
[12:59] <czajkowski> why I'm not sure
[13:00] <czajkowski>  /propiertary not private I mean
[13:00] <ahasenack> could be a mistake,
[13:00] <czajkowski> can the bug be made public
[13:00] <ahasenack> so I need to fix that first, then change the project, and then remove proprietary?
[13:00] <ahasenack> czajkowski: yes, it can
[13:00] <czajkowski> ok
[13:00] <ahasenack> czajkowski: can you make it public?
[13:01] <czajkowski> great it wont let me
[13:01] <ahasenack> the overlay that pops up when you click on that pen icon to make it public looks wrong
[13:01] <ahasenack>  bad layout, overlapping text
[13:02] <czajkowski> not seen taht ever befoer
[13:02] <czajkowski> *that
[13:02] <czajkowski> what I'd suggest if finding someone on the landscape side of things and seeing if they can remove it from propietary and then make it public
[13:03] <czajkowski> then we can reassign it
[13:03] <_duncan_> where's the best place to report a security bug in launchpad?
[13:03] <czajkowski> _duncan_: via LP and mark it security
[13:03] <czajkowski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+filebug
[13:03] <_duncan_> ok
[13:04] <ahasenack> czajkowski: I am on the landscape side of things :)
[13:06] <czajkowski> ahasenack: and even you can't remove it
[13:06] <czajkowski> that means something is wrong with sharing
[13:06] <czajkowski> makes no sense
[13:06] <ahasenack> czajkowski: right
[13:07] <ahasenack> maintainer of "landscape" is ~landscape, of which I am an administrator
[13:07] <czajkowski> so under the project /sharing should be who can see what
[13:07] <ahasenack> ok, let me try
[13:07] <czajkowski> but never seen it affect triaging of bugs
[13:09] <ahasenack> czajkowski: I'm getting launchpad-ops help, thanks
[13:09] <czajkowski> ok
[13:09] <czajkowski> ahasenack: you know I'm there also right ;)
[13:10] <ahasenack> czajkowski: now I do :)
[13:10] <ahasenack> small world
[14:55] <xnox> czajkowski: StevenK: opened that Tcl task, changed it to distribution:ubuntu/pkg:hello, then removed that task.
[14:55] <xnox> So i had rights to move it to a different project, where i have unlink rights =) \o/ permissions models are hard =))
[14:55] <xnox> all nice and tidy now.
[20:13] <ccxCZ> is there a feature in launchpad (bzr) to push into github repositories? (or github feature to pull from bzr, in case you know about that)
[20:13] <thumper> ccxCZ: not in launchpad itself
[20:13] <thumper> ccxCZ: but if you have bzr-git installed, I think you can push from bzr to git repositories
[20:16] <lifeless> ccxCZ: both bzr and git have extensions to talk to the other system.
[20:19] <soryy708> Hi. I keep getting timeout errors.
[20:19] <soryy708> It's like so for the whole today.
[20:20] <soryy708> Does Error ID: OOPS-0e4b84dc979375567dd87d7db7d12d3a mean something?
[20:21] <lifeless> it allows someone here that works for Canonical to examine the cause for you.
[20:21] <lifeless> E.g. czajkowski or wgrant or StevenK
[20:24] <soryy708> Okay, this is getting annoying. Now instead of getting the occasional timeout error, I keep getting timeout errors all the time.
[20:24] <soryy708> Can't do anything.
[20:25] <thumper> soryy708: what are you trying to do?
[20:25] <czajkowski> soryy708: wha are you doing
[20:25] <czajkowski> thumper: \o/
[20:25] <soryy708> I'm trying to do a translation for ecere/trunk
[20:25]  * thumper wavesto czajkowski
[20:25] <soryy708> url = https://translations.launchpad.net/ecere/trunk/+pots/ecere/ru/+translate?field.alternative_language-empty-marker=1&memo=9&show=untranslated&start=9
[20:27] <soryy708> Is launchpad down or something?
[20:27] <czajkowski> soryy708: no it's not
[20:28] <soryy708> You are right, it isn't.
[20:28] <czajkowski> I know
[20:28] <czajkowski> I'll file a bug and once the LP folks come online they can have a look at it
[20:28] <czajkowski> but we di have a few already for translation timeouts
[20:28] <mgz> bug 807383 but the characteristics are quite different now
[20:29] <czajkowski> mgz: evening you're on late
[20:29] <soryy708> I went to https://translations.launchpad.net/ecere/trunk , from there I pressed 'Russian', and then 'ecere'. That's when I get a timeout.
[20:29] <soryy708> Hebrew seems to work though...
[20:30] <soryy708> Oh, now russian works too :S
[20:30] <ToyKeeper> Hi, um, is there any way to get a static link to the latest rev of a single file in a published branch?  I see a static link to view it in a browser, but no link to download without version-specific info.
[20:31] <mgz> (I'm assuming, old oopses all gone) no single bad sql statement, timeout deep in tal, and about a 2:1 sql to non-sql time spent
[20:31] <ToyKeeper> Like, to view...  it looks like this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~person/project/branch/view/head:/file.ext
[20:32] <soryy708> Damnit, filled out a page, pressed 'save and continue' and got a timeout again. (Error ID: OOPS-59948e58100833d52c4356a0888c476b)
[20:32] <ToyKeeper> ... but the download link looks like: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~person/project/branch/download/head:/branchname-daterev-blah-1/file.ext
[20:32] <mgz> ToyKeeper: use bzr if you want to get a file automatically
[20:33] <mgz> er... robotically?
[20:33] <ToyKeeper> mgz: It must be wgettable; the intended users don't even know what bzr is.
[20:33] <mgz> but know what wget is?
[20:34] <ToyKeeper> Something simple that comes with Ubuntu by default, at least.
[20:34] <lifeless> ToyKeeper: that download link is staic
[20:34] <lifeless> ToyKeeper: head: is a symbolic link, sortof :)
[20:34] <mgz> lifeless: the download link has a revid in it
[20:35] <ToyKeeper> The actual URL here is, for example, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-support/ubuntuone-client/scripts/download/head:/tomboysyncvalidator.-20110217154106-prhppjfgrewp4lvd-1/tomboy-sync-validator.py
[20:35] <lifeless> mgz: gnar. I thought we had a namespaced version.
[20:35] <lifeless> ToyKeeper: that looks stable to me.
[20:35] <lifeless> ToyKeeper: thats the fileid, not a revid
[20:35] <ToyKeeper> It's going into a FAQ where users can copy/paste a command to get the latest version of a file and then run it.
[20:35] <lifeless> isn't it ?
[20:35] <lifeless> mgz: ^ ?
[20:35] <mgz> right, *fileid
[20:35] <lifeless> fileid is stable
[20:35] <mgz> ToyKeeper: both wget and bzr are in main
[20:36] <mgz> neither are in ubuntu core
[20:36] <soryy708> Aaaand another timeout...
[20:36] <mgz> just have step #1 be `sudo apt-get install bzr` rather than `sudo apt-get install wget`
[20:36] <ToyKeeper> Perhaps I should just cron a bzr pull somewhere on a public-accessible server and link to the files from there.
[20:36] <lifeless> ToyKeeper: I don't understand the issue.
[20:36] <czajkowski> soryy708: yes that is the problem with timeouts, they sometimes work
[20:37] <lifeless> ToyKeeper: do you think the url is unstable. Or do you object to it being long ?
[20:37] <czajkowski> we are trying to fix them and are currently working on bugs marked critical
[20:37] <mgz> lifeless: she wants latest, not static version
[20:37] <lifeless> mgz: that *is* latest.
[20:37] <czajkowski> but with only 2 people working on the bugs, it may take some time
[20:37] <soryy708> czajkowski: When do you approx. Launchpad will be usable?
[20:37] <czajkowski> launchpad *is* useable
[20:37] <ToyKeeper> lifeless: Mainly, the intended audience needs a short one-liner to get and run a script, and I'd prefer not to have to update the FAQ every time there's a branch update.
[20:37] <mgz> it's got a fileid, it's always the same version if you hard code the url in your script or documentation
[20:37] <mgz> rather than being updatable by changing the branch
[20:38] <lifeless> mgz: fileids are *not* per-rev
[20:38] <mgz> ah, good point
[20:38] <mgz> it is a fileid, not a revid
[20:38] <lifeless> roman.yepishev@canonical.com-20130227134321-gxq09ay4nonrg5bo is the revid of head
[20:38] <mgz> ToyKeeper: ^ignore me, listen to lifeless
[20:39] <lifeless> roman.yepishev@canonical.com-20121129122316-gm3afi5ukyt0kuuv is the revid of the last change of that file
[20:39] <ToyKeeper> I could probably wrap it in a bit.ly URL or something, I suppose.
[20:39] <lifeless> ToyKeeper: a bit.ly link would be fine.
[20:39] <lifeless> the download link will be stable unless one of two things happen: the filename is changed, or the file is deleted and readded.
[20:40] <lifeless> (or you rename teh project, team or branch)
[20:40] <lifeless> and it will give you latest.
[20:40] <mgz> or delete the branch, or the earth gets hit by a meteor
[20:40] <mgz> ...a big one
[20:47]  * ToyKeeper tries to get curl to do it...  but it seems curl's content-disposition feature can't parse LP's headers
[20:47] <ToyKeeper> wget --content-disposition works though.
[22:06] <micahg> webops: could someone give sagari some love please?