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| hunger | So for ubuntu phone dev I get a IDE, for desktop ubuntu I am supposed to use quickly? | 19:07 |
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| odra | hunger: I dunno! | 19:20 |
| odra | hunger: Don't ask me complicated questions I can't answer! | 19:20 |
| odra | hunger: You are making me hungry. | 19:20 |
| hunger | odra: I was not asking you specifically. Just want to get the full picture of where this is headed:-) | 19:21 |
| odra | I don't know. I don't develop for ubuntu. | 19:21 |
| odra | I just happen to develop apps which happen to run on ubuntu. | 19:21 |
| odra | It is all a coincidence. | 19:21 |
| odra | By the way what is quickly? | 19:21 |
| JanC | hunger: you can use QtCreator for desktop apps too | 19:26 |
| JanC | or any of the other desktop IDEs | 19:27 |
| odra | Or notepad. | 19:27 |
| JanC | notepad is "somewhat" limited | 19:28 |
| odra | Or any of those text editing programs that are not called notepad. | 19:28 |
| odra | Really? | 19:28 |
| odra | Because I made an image viewer in gedit. | 19:28 |
| JanC | gedit is hardly comparable with notepad | 19:28 |
| odra | I'm not firing up wine just to edit a text file. | 19:29 |
| JanC | I hope so :p | 19:29 |
| arpu | hello @all | 19:29 |
| odra | But I have, acidentally, many times. | 19:29 |
| arpu | can i use flash or air with the ubuntu sdk? | 19:29 |
| arpu | the problem is our app use rtmfp connections | 19:29 |
| odra | I don't even know why notepad shows up in the programs list. I don't know how to get rid of it either. | 19:29 |
| JanC | arpu: I suppose you can use Flash in web app style, but I'm not sure Flash is available on all Ubuntu mobile platforms | 19:31 |
| arpu | JanC, ok thx and on desktop? | 19:32 |
| JanC | well, x86 & amd64 certainly have Flash plugins available/usable | 19:34 |
| JanC | although maybe not the very last one | 19:34 |
| arpu | ok so i use the Qtwebkit browser to show my | 19:35 |
| arpu | flash app | 19:35 |
| dz0ny | arpu: librtmp also exists | 19:35 |
| arpu | dz0ny, librtmp is not possible for p2p rtmfp connections | 19:35 |
| hunger | JanC: So what is the recommended way to write desktop apps nowadays? Preferably in a way that I can reuse (parts) of the code later on a phone. | 19:36 |
| arpu | hmm there are arm air so binarys i can use on android so it should work for ubuntu on arm too ? | 19:36 |
| JanC | hunger: I think it's hard to say what will or will not work once all infrastructure is ready... | 19:38 |
| dz0ny | arpu: that's true, flash for linux is not suported anymore. Maybe you could use Google implementation of flash(PPAPI), but that creates a lot of licensing problems I guess. | 19:38 |
| arpu | hmm so i need to find out how i can load the so files and play the swf on ubuntu arm | 19:38 |
| hunger | JanC: Quickly seems to use something completely different. Looks like that is not the way to go then. | 19:38 |
| JanC | hunger: Quickly can be used with whatever framework | 19:39 |
| arpu | dz0ny, but it should work on ubuntu arm with the air so libs | 19:39 |
| JanC | hunger: but I'm not sure if there are Quickly templates for Ubuntu Touch already | 19:40 |
| hunger | JanC: Is there any idea yet on how to port desktop apps to ubuntu touch? Or must I write everything from scratch? | 19:41 |
| JanC | I have no idea ☺ | 19:41 |
| JanC | actually, I think Qt/QML should work more or less OOTB | 19:41 |
| hunger | So I should use Qt on the desktop as well? | 19:42 |
| hunger | Good:-) | 19:43 |
| JanC | I think using other frameworks might work as well (either now or in the future), just that it's not tested at all | 19:43 |
| dz0ny | arpu: I have no idea, officialy there is no support for Flash,Air on Linux from Adobe. Only updated flash runtime is from Google, which is bundled with Chrome. | 19:44 |
| JanC | well, Adobe still releases security fixes for the Flash plugin | 19:44 |
| arpu | dz0ny, ok thx lot i know but air is available on android official | 19:45 |
| arpu | and i look at the soirce code from adobe air for android | 19:45 |
| arpu | its loading the so libs and play the swf files | 19:46 |
| arpu | some voodoo is done with the video and stagefridge | 19:46 |
| JanC | arpu: AFAIK Adobe is deprecating Air on all platforms though | 19:46 |
| arpu | JanC, ? on all platforms ? no | 19:46 |
| dz0ny | yep, the are moving to HTML5 | 19:47 |
| arpu | no not for all flash air is perfect for game development | 19:47 |
| arpu | http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html | 19:47 |
| dz0ny | As of Adobe AIR 3, Adobe has discontinued support for Adobe AIR for Linux operating systems. | 19:49 |
| arpu | yes right for linux x68 | 19:49 |
| JanC | well, at least it won't work on desktops then | 19:50 |
| arpu | yes :/ | 19:50 |
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| JanC | if I understand correctly, RTMFP is similar to WebRTC? | 19:53 |
| arpu | yes/no :D it uses udp | 19:55 |
| JanC | and/or maybe some other open protocols | 19:55 |
| arpu | rtmfp protocoll is open | 19:56 |
| arpu | http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thornburgh-adobe-rtmfp-00 | 19:56 |
| JanC | well, at least it's an open spec | 19:57 |
| arpu | its pefect for p2p games or video chat ... | 19:57 |
| dz0ny | arpu: Have you evaluated websockets? | 19:58 |
| arpu | yes i built an chat text sample with websockets | 20:00 |
| arpu | but its not that perfext for real time gaming or video chats | 20:00 |
| JanC | I'm pretty sure WebRTC uses UDP-based streaming too | 20:00 |
| matge | Hey, I get "static bool QDesktopServices::openUrl(const QUrl&): The platform plugin does not support services" on the phablet | 20:37 |
| matge | which phablet repository does provide that platform plugin? | 20:38 |
| matge | so I can add openUrl functionality to it? | 20:38 |
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