| mjrosenb | lilstevie: how do you install them? | 00:08 |
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| mjrosenb | lilstevie: I asked in #fedora-arm, and they denied its existence. | 00:08 |
| lilstevie | um give me a sec | 00:08 |
| lilstevie | mjrosenb, I got the package name from fedoras own wiki 0.o | 00:08 |
| lilstevie | gcc-arm-linux-gnu.x86_64 : Cross-build binary utilities for arm-linux-gnu | 00:09 |
| lilstevie | straight from the yum search | 00:09 |
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| sbaugh | I guess Bluetooth is working :) | 00:35 |
| sbaugh | And so is dwm! awesome! | 00:40 |
| sbaugh | Thank you Ubuntu Nexus 7 porters! I have a new netbook! | 00:40 |
| lilstevie | mjrosenb, find it? | 00:41 |
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| infinity | lilstevie: Oh shiny. I was lied to. Not running Fedora personally, I had to accept that lie as tentative truth. Thanks for the correction. :) | 05:29 |
| lilstevie | infinity, np :) | 05:29 |
| lilstevie | FC18 fwiw | 05:30 |
| lilstevie | I can't comment on earlier versions | 05:30 |
| infinity | Yeah, I just assume latest release and/or rawhide as a general rule. Older Fedora releases are worth anyone's time about as much as older Ford Pintos. | 05:30 |
| lilstevie | fair enough | 05:32 |
| lilstevie | fedoras current recommended setup is to use distcc with arm guests and an x86 server | 05:32 |
| lilstevie | which I find a little overkill | 05:33 |
| infinity | Just a tad. :) | 05:33 |
| lilstevie | if something only builds native, I'll build it native otherwise I'll crossbuild, and packaging is always done native for me | 05:33 |
| sbaugh | What script/service is doing the rotation on the Ubuntu Nexus 7 port? | 06:33 |
| * Snark wonders how easy it can be to use an arm chromebook with qwerty keyboard... in french... | 08:11 | |
| marvin24 | ogra_: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/133791292/flash-kernel_3.0~rc.4ubuntu29_3.0~rc.4ubuntu29-tegra.diff.gz | 08:45 |
| marvin24 | ^ this still misses a remove script | 08:46 |
| ogra_ | marvin24, hmm, doesnt your u-boot support uEnv/preEnv.txt ? we gave up supporting booot.scr quite a while ago, so that we could use plain text files and /etc/default/flash-kernel to seed the cmdline | 08:51 |
| marvin24 | ogra_: yes, as I said before, uEnv/preEnv is an uboot macro implemented in the omap config | 08:52 |
| marvin24 | I can look into it again, but I don't see what's the problem with boot.scr | 08:52 |
| ogra_ | consistency | 08:53 |
| marvin24 | you still need to run mkimage on vmlinuz and initrd | 08:53 |
| marvin24 | I'll think about it to add uEnv support to tegra | 08:54 |
| ogra_ | i.e. telling people "please edit /etc/default/flash-kernel and run sudo flash-kernel" is the std way to change your commandline with all other u-boot supported devices in ubuntu nowadays | 08:54 |
| marvin24 | yes, editing something in /usr/share isn't nice | 08:54 |
| ogra_ | it is mainly for systems that use SD cards indeed, so that you can just edit a txt file instead of being forced to have mkimage installed | 08:55 |
| ogra_ | we just tried to get away from that requirement ... the /etc/default stuff is just a convenient extra to make it more like grub | 08:56 |
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| hrw | Snark: you can load AZERTY keymap - just do not look at keys ;D | 09:21 |
| Snark | hrw, hmmm... wouldn't it be easier to keep the keyboard as qwerty but enable some dead key to obtain accentuated chars? | 09:26 |
| hrw | Snark: no idea. Polish keyboard is based on US one | 09:26 |
| hrw | and I have UK keyboard in chromebook... but I do not look at keys | 09:27 |
| ogra_ | there are kbd stickers you could use | 09:28 |
| qwertyuiop_v1 | Hello! | 10:21 |
| qwertyuiop_v1 | Do we have support for USB DVB Cards in Ubuntu Raring Ringtail (armhf) ? WinTV-Nova-T Stick is supported (linux-firmware-nonfree) but nothing happens (no smsusb probing done) when I plugged it in my Nexus 7... ;D | 10:31 |
| ogra_ | qwertyuiop_v1, files a bug and ask for the kernel option to be enabled, its not intentional :) | 10:35 |
| ogra_ | apw, ppisati ^^^^^ | 10:35 |
| ogra_ | *file even | 10:35 |
| apw | ogra_, may well not be on indeed, but yes file a bug and we can look into it | 10:37 |
| ogra_ | i doubt it is ... i think there is a bug to enable all possible USB module options though | 10:38 |
| qwertyuiop_v1 | ogra_, apw: thanks for your prompt response, I will file a bug | 10:39 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: the phablet-flash command do you find you need to run it a couple of times if you haven't for a while? the first seems to just error out and the second work flawlessly | 11:23 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: phablet-flash -l I should say | 11:24 |
| ogra_ | davmor2, i never used it :) | 11:29 |
| * ogra_ just copies both zips in place with the bootloader | 11:29 | |
| davmor2 | ogra_: fair enough | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | ask in #ubuntu-touch ... probably when rsalveti is around, i think he knows that script | 11:30 |
| * ogra_ doesnt have a supported phone so i have to do it manually anyway for my SGS2 port | 11:30 | |
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| davmor2 | ogra_`: :( | 12:40 |
| ogra_` | ? | 12:40 |
| davmor2 | ogra_`: to the non-supported phone sorry just playing catch up | 12:42 |
| ogra_` | non supported phone ? | 12:42 |
| ogra_` | you mean the guy wanting a raspberry Pi port of ubuntu touch ? | 12:42 |
| ogra_` | oh, you mean my galaxy SGS2 | 12:43 |
| ogra_` | well, we only suppport nexus devices officiallly :) | 12:43 |
| * ogra_` thought you refer to his current ML discussion on ubuntu-phone | 12:43 | |
| infinity | ogra_`: After having JUST flashed a GS2 literally an hour ago and discovering that they don't need unlocking or any other madness, I suspect that getting ubuntu-phone going on one would be dangerously close to trivial. | 12:44 |
| infinity | ogra_`: I'd do it myself, but I have to give this phone back to its owner now that I've unbricked it for her. | 12:44 |
| ogra_` | infinity, it runs absolutely perfect here since the weekend on my SGS2 | 12:44 |
| infinity | ogra_`: (A Samsung OTA update bricked it, so I opted to just say "eff samsung" and reimage it with CM10) | 12:44 |
| infinity | ogra_`: Ahh, cool, you're already on it. Awesome. | 12:45 |
| ogra_` | yeah, ubuntu touch isnt much hardewr once you have the HW issues sorted | 12:45 |
| ogra_` | wlan was a bit tricky since there are two firmwares for the same device ... | 12:45 |
| ogra_` | took me a while to figure that out | 12:45 |
| rsalveti | davmor2: that's because adb | 12:45 |
| rsalveti | davmor2: it seems we need to add some sort of delay from the first time adb is initialized | 12:46 |
| ogra_` | and it didnt work with the recent mali android drivers ... but someone patched that bit to use the former version | 12:46 |
| infinity | ogra_`: Yeah, there are actually a whole bunch of SGS2 models, from what I discovered doing her recovery. | 12:46 |
| ogra_` | now its working as good as a nexus here :) | 12:46 |
| infinity | ogra_`: Hers being the "Rogers/AT&T LTE" variety. skyrocket. | 12:47 |
| ogra_` | i havent tried GSM yet since i dont want to actually unlock my SIm | 12:47 |
| ogra_` | ugh, yeah, i thinnk vanhoof is also still struggling to get his verizon variant to work | 12:47 |
| ogra_` | mine is luckily a plain GT-I9100 | 12:48 |
| ogra_` | i think slangasek also has one of tehse weirdos that were modified for a network provider | 12:49 |
| davmor2 | rsalveti: ah thanks | 12:49 |
| ogra_` | rsalveti, definitely between adb root and adb shell calls | 12:49 |
| rsalveti | bug 1143946 | 12:49 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1143946 in Phablet Tools "phablet-flash fails on first run" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1143946 | 12:49 |
| rsalveti | yeah | 12:49 |
| ogra_` | i even run into issues with that manually | 12:50 |
| infinity | ogra_`: My favourite part about the skyrocket variant is that they're identical at the hardware level, but for whatever crazy reason, the volume/power combinations for accessing recovery/download modes are DIFFERENT between Rogers and AT&T phones. | 12:50 |
| infinity | ogra_`: Can't fathom how that came to be, or why anyone thought that was a good idea. | 12:50 |
| ogra_` | oh my | 12:51 |
| ogra_` | i bet that took a while to figure out, eh ? :) | 12:51 |
| infinity | It took a lot of angry button-mashing when all the AT&T-centric HOWTOs were wrong for me, yes. :P | 12:51 |
| ogra_` | *sigh* why the heck do people want to run ubuntu touch on their RPi ! | 12:51 |
| ogra_` | that thread starts to annoy me | 12:52 |
| infinity | But, much like fighting games on the SNES, if you mash enough buttons randomly, eventually you win. | 12:52 |
| ogra_` | haha | 12:52 |
| lilstevie | lol | 13:06 |
| lilstevie | ogra_`, it is quite simple, people purchased the rpi thinking that it would be the go-to hardware | 13:07 |
| ogra_` | yeah, i still wonder what made them think that | 13:07 |
| lilstevie | because they don't understand the whole ARMvX issue | 13:07 |
| lilstevie | ogra_`, pricepoint | 13:07 |
| ogra_` | right | 13:07 |
| lilstevie | ogra_`, everyone has this notion that if something is cheap, it will become the standard | 13:07 |
| ogra_` | heh, so "ceapest" *must* be good ... indeeed :) | 13:08 |
| ogra_` | *cheapest | 13:08 |
| ogra_` | well, i was hoping to not have any RPi discussions anymore, but somehow that crap is re-occuring every few months | 13:09 |
| lilstevie | yeah | 13:09 |
| Snark | ogra_`, hrw eh, I don't mind using a qwerty as long as I have convenient access to dead keys... | 13:09 |
| ogra_` | yeah, thats tricky on the chromebook ... | 13:10 |
| ogra_` | there are so many keys missing | 13:10 |
| * ogra_` really misses delete | 13:10 | |
| lilstevie | I did a whole rant the other day about how people still insist on releasing armv6 devices in another chan, and how I will only consider something if it is armv7 but even then there are conditions, and the first thing someone asked me was if I owned a rpi, and if not am I planning to | 13:10 |
| hrw | ogra_`: I have Del on F10 | 13:10 |
| ogra_` | hrw, i have vol up there (as labeled) | 13:11 |
| ogra_` | the three volume keys are actually mapped like labeled for me | 13:11 |
| ogra_` | (indeed i could change that but would have to re-map the volume stuff elsewhere) | 13:11 |
| ogra_` | and wheer del usually sits there is the power key ... | 13:12 |
| hrw | ogra_`: Esc F1 F2 F5 F11 F4 VolDown VolUp PgUp PgDown Delete Power - my setup | 13:20 |
| hrw | lilstevie: devices <cortex-a15 are below my radar of interest | 13:21 |
| xnox | ogra_`: does the rpi discussion frequency matches the batch rpi shipments arrival from china? | 13:30 |
| ogra_` | heh, no idea, i try to stay away as far as i can from the RPi :) | 13:30 |
| ogra_` | its just crappy proprietary HW | 13:31 |
| xnox | OpenCrap (tm) | 13:31 |
| ogra_` | heh | 13:31 |
| ogra_` | its like a broadcom wlan card that expanded to a whole PC | 13:32 |
| hrw | ;) | 13:32 |
| hrw | marvin24: on which devices you checked your flash-kernel for DT devices patch? | 13:33 |
| marvin24 | hrw: ac100 | 13:34 |
| marvin24 | but should work on all tegra2/3/4 | 13:34 |
| hrw | on chromebook I do not produce /lib/firmware/KERNELVER/ libs | 13:34 |
| marvin24 | libs? or device-tree? | 13:35 |
| hrw | device-tree | 13:35 |
| hrw | sory | 13:35 |
| infinity | hrw: Well, you should start. :) | 13:35 |
| marvin24 | this actually comes from the ubuntu raring kernel (3.8) | 13:35 |
| infinity | hrw: The distro mainline kernels do. | 13:35 |
| hrw | infinity: maybe one day when I switch to uboot chainload | 13:35 |
| marvin24 | hrw: does /proc/cpuinfo contain "Flattened Device Tree" at all? | 13:36 |
| hrw | marvin24: Hardware : SAMSUNG EXYNOS5 (Flattened Device Tree) | 13:36 |
| marvin24 | ok | 13:36 |
| hrw | infinity: kernel packaging is weird enough already | 13:37 |
| * xnox notices that pxz and busybox compatability has been fixed now. | 13:42 | |
| * xnox TODO merge busybox | 13:42 | |
| ogra_` | \o/ | 13:42 |
| ogra_` | damned, so i wont have any excuse anymore to not implement xz tarballs | 13:42 |
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| ppisati | lp 1126836 | 14:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1126836 in ubuntu-nexus7 "The error "df: warning: cannot read table of mounted filesystems: No such file or directory" is shown. Splash screen appears, then black screen." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1126836 | 14:03 |
| ppisati | this is exactly what happens to me | 14:03 |
| ogra_` | which is still unexplainable to me | 14:04 |
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| ppisati | at least i'm not the only one | 14:04 |
| ogra_` | ppisati, no, thats the whoopsie bug that was fixed the same week | 14:05 |
| ppisati | ogra_`: tried yesterday img, still there | 14:05 |
| ogra_` | it exposed the exact same behavior | 14:05 |
| ogra_` | yes, you said so | 14:05 |
| ogra_` | but it is definitely not realted to that one | 14:06 |
| ogra_` | everyone who had that issue confirmed it fixed after the whoopsie fix | 14:06 |
| ogra_` | and it was weeks ago | 14:06 |
| ogra_` | i'm pretty sure what you see is kernel/HW related | 14:07 |
| ppisati | can we have the serial console on usb? | 14:08 |
| ppisati | i se network manager keeps trying to bring up usb0 | 14:08 |
| ppisati | so i guess kernel is still alive | 14:08 |
| ogra_` | ppisati, there is a serial console on usb ... in parallel to the usb0 iface | 14:09 |
| ogra_` | check your dmesg | 14:10 |
| ogra_` | the prob is that yu first need to modify the bootimg to boot with init=/bin/bash, then set a root PW, drop the init= again to be able to log in | 14:10 |
| ppisati | ogra_`: no new ttyUSB* here | 14:10 |
| ogra_` | its ttyAMA or some such | 14:11 |
| * ogra_` forgot how the composite gadget calls it | 14:11 | |
| ppisati | ok | 14:11 |
| ppisati | i see the serial | 14:11 |
| ogra_` | you should get a login | 14:11 |
| ppisati | yep | 14:11 |
| ogra_` | but there is no user or root pw | 14:11 |
| ppisati | ogra_`: can't we set a default user? ubuntu/ubuntu? | 14:12 |
| ogra_` | not without horrid hackery, nope | 14:13 |
| ppisati | :( | 14:13 |
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| Snark | ogra_, hrw the chromebook keyboard doesn't seem really usable... I'm wondering if a nexus10 + bt keyboard wouldn't be better (though three times more expensive) | 14:38 |
| hrw | Snark: depends what you need | 14:38 |
| ogra_ | depnds if you want to sit in a comfy chair with the thing on your lap or not | 14:43 |
| ogra_ | if you always have a table its no issue to use an nx10 | 14:43 |
| Snark | ogra_, http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/clavier-souris-webcam/bluestork-clavier-bluetooth-avec-support-tablette/f-10702151616-bskbpadbtf.html ? | 14:49 |
| ogra_ | well, i guess it will be wobbly and loose ... but try it | 14:50 |
| ppisati | ogra_: the nexus7 img, what kind of archive is that? tgz? squash? | 14:50 |
| ogra_ | i used my nx7 for a while with wireless kbd ... and its slightly painful to always have to search a place to have it stand on | 14:50 |
| ogra_ | ppisati, a special fastboot ext4 based sparse file format .... containing a rootfs tarball | 14:51 |
| ppisati | ogra_: can i "open" it in some way? | 14:52 |
| ogra_ | you can convert it with simg2img from android-fsutils | 14:52 |
| ogra_ | then you can loop mount it | 14:52 |
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| * Snark wonders when the new batch of arm tablets will get out... april? may? | 18:12 | |
| RoyK | Snark: what tablets? | 18:47 |
| Snark | RoyK, hmmm... isn't it the right word? | 18:54 |
| Snark | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablet_computer <- it's the right word | 18:56 |
| Snark | RoyK, I don't understand your question, then | 18:56 |
| RoyK | what arm tablets are you talking about? | 18:56 |
| infinity | Snark: They don't tend to release in batches, I think is the confusion. Manufacturers release products when they release products... | 19:00 |
| Snark | there are generally points in time where they make big announces | 19:01 |
| Snark | and my question is : when is the next occasion they have to make such? | 19:02 |
| infinity | Snark: You'd have to ask every manufacturer that. | 19:07 |
| infinity | My calendar doesn't have a "big tablet announcement day" on it. | 19:08 |
| Neko | infinity, generally CES is the big tablet announcement day ;) | 19:10 |
| Neko | except it's more like a weekend. Google IO is the "we weren't ready at CES" fallback. But they do tend to announce them all at once to get one-up on each other, at CES, and then go silent (and usually don't produce) for the rest of the year. | 19:11 |
| Neko | Snark, so you gotta wait until January basically | 19:11 |
| Neko | the "new batch" came out already, got zero traction because the Nexus 7+10 beat the shit out of them. | 19:12 |
| Snark | ok | 19:38 |
| lilstevie | and asus, who are usually pretty vocal about their refreshes haven't done one yet, probably cause their weird lifecycle with tf201/tf300t/tf700 + n7 | 19:44 |
| angeloc | Hi guys, I'm building a minimal image for sabre lite | 21:16 |
| angeloc | everything boots correctly, but cannot make ethernet working | 21:17 |
| angeloc | there is no eth0, and ifup eth0 raise an error | 21:18 |
| angeloc | bootlog shows no signs of ethernet device?! | 21:18 |
| angeloc | ogra_: have you some hints? | 21:20 |
| angeloc | anybody here? | 21:34 |
| angeloc | I think I solved my problem | 21:46 |
| angeloc | it related to an invalid mac address in uboot | 21:46 |
| angeloc | bug 817315 | 21:47 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 817315 in Linaro U-Boot "eth0 doesn't get a valid MAC address on startup" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/817315 | 21:47 |
| angeloc | bye, thank you | 21:48 |
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