[00:08] lilstevie: how do you install them? [00:08] lilstevie: I asked in #fedora-arm, and they denied its existence. [00:08] um give me a sec [00:08] mjrosenb, I got the package name from fedoras own wiki 0.o [00:09] gcc-arm-linux-gnu.x86_64 : Cross-build binary utilities for arm-linux-gnu [00:09] straight from the yum search === sbaugh_ is now known as sbaugh === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ [00:35] I guess Bluetooth is working :) [00:40] And so is dwm! awesome! [00:40] Thank you Ubuntu Nexus 7 porters! I have a new netbook! [00:41] mjrosenb, find it? === mythos_ is now known as mythos === rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti === rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti [05:29] lilstevie: Oh shiny. I was lied to. Not running Fedora personally, I had to accept that lie as tentative truth. Thanks for the correction. :) [05:29] infinity, np :) [05:30] FC18 fwiw [05:30] I can't comment on earlier versions [05:30] Yeah, I just assume latest release and/or rawhide as a general rule. Older Fedora releases are worth anyone's time about as much as older Ford Pintos. [05:32] fair enough [05:32] fedoras current recommended setup is to use distcc with arm guests and an x86 server [05:33] which I find a little overkill [05:33] Just a tad. :) [05:33] if something only builds native, I'll build it native otherwise I'll crossbuild, and packaging is always done native for me [06:33] What script/service is doing the rotation on the Ubuntu Nexus 7 port? [08:11] * Snark wonders how easy it can be to use an arm chromebook with qwerty keyboard... in french... [08:45] ogra_: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/133791292/flash-kernel_3.0~rc.4ubuntu29_3.0~rc.4ubuntu29-tegra.diff.gz [08:46] ^ this still misses a remove script [08:51] marvin24, hmm, doesnt your u-boot support uEnv/preEnv.txt ? we gave up supporting booot.scr quite a while ago, so that we could use plain text files and /etc/default/flash-kernel to seed the cmdline [08:52] ogra_: yes, as I said before, uEnv/preEnv is an uboot macro implemented in the omap config [08:52] I can look into it again, but I don't see what's the problem with boot.scr [08:53] consistency [08:53] you still need to run mkimage on vmlinuz and initrd [08:54] I'll think about it to add uEnv support to tegra [08:54] i.e. telling people "please edit /etc/default/flash-kernel and run sudo flash-kernel" is the std way to change your commandline with all other u-boot supported devices in ubuntu nowadays [08:54] yes, editing something in /usr/share isn't nice [08:55] it is mainly for systems that use SD cards indeed, so that you can just edit a txt file instead of being forced to have mkimage installed [08:56] we just tried to get away from that requirement ... the /etc/default stuff is just a convenient extra to make it more like grub === XorA|gone is now known as XorA === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun [09:21] Snark: you can load AZERTY keymap - just do not look at keys ;D [09:26] hrw, hmmm... wouldn't it be easier to keep the keyboard as qwerty but enable some dead key to obtain accentuated chars? [09:26] Snark: no idea. Polish keyboard is based on US one [09:27] and I have UK keyboard in chromebook... but I do not look at keys [09:28] there are kbd stickers you could use [10:21] Hello! [10:31] Do we have support for USB DVB Cards in Ubuntu Raring Ringtail (armhf) ? WinTV-Nova-T Stick is supported (linux-firmware-nonfree) but nothing happens (no smsusb probing done) when I plugged it in my Nexus 7... ;D [10:35] qwertyuiop_v1, files a bug and ask for the kernel option to be enabled, its not intentional :) [10:35] apw, ppisati ^^^^^ [10:35] *file even [10:37] ogra_, may well not be on indeed, but yes file a bug and we can look into it [10:38] i doubt it is ... i think there is a bug to enable all possible USB module options though [10:39] ogra_, apw: thanks for your prompt response, I will file a bug [11:23] ogra_: the phablet-flash command do you find you need to run it a couple of times if you haven't for a while? the first seems to just error out and the second work flawlessly [11:24] ogra_: phablet-flash -l I should say [11:29] davmor2, i never used it :) [11:29] * ogra_ just copies both zips in place with the bootloader [11:29] ogra_: fair enough [11:30] ask in #ubuntu-touch ... probably when rsalveti is around, i think he knows that script [11:30] * ogra_ doesnt have a supported phone so i have to do it manually anyway for my SGS2 port === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun === popey_ is now known as popey [12:40] ogra_`: :( [12:40] ? [12:42] ogra_`: to the non-supported phone sorry just playing catch up [12:42] non supported phone ? [12:42] you mean the guy wanting a raspberry Pi port of ubuntu touch ? [12:43] oh, you mean my galaxy SGS2 [12:43] well, we only suppport nexus devices officiallly :) [12:43] * ogra_` thought you refer to his current ML discussion on ubuntu-phone [12:44] ogra_`: After having JUST flashed a GS2 literally an hour ago and discovering that they don't need unlocking or any other madness, I suspect that getting ubuntu-phone going on one would be dangerously close to trivial. [12:44] ogra_`: I'd do it myself, but I have to give this phone back to its owner now that I've unbricked it for her. [12:44] infinity, it runs absolutely perfect here since the weekend on my SGS2 [12:44] ogra_`: (A Samsung OTA update bricked it, so I opted to just say "eff samsung" and reimage it with CM10) [12:45] ogra_`: Ahh, cool, you're already on it. Awesome. [12:45] yeah, ubuntu touch isnt much hardewr once you have the HW issues sorted [12:45] wlan was a bit tricky since there are two firmwares for the same device ... [12:45] took me a while to figure that out [12:45] davmor2: that's because adb [12:46] davmor2: it seems we need to add some sort of delay from the first time adb is initialized [12:46] and it didnt work with the recent mali android drivers ... but someone patched that bit to use the former version [12:46] ogra_`: Yeah, there are actually a whole bunch of SGS2 models, from what I discovered doing her recovery. [12:46] now its working as good as a nexus here :) [12:47] ogra_`: Hers being the "Rogers/AT&T LTE" variety. skyrocket. [12:47] i havent tried GSM yet since i dont want to actually unlock my SIm [12:47] ugh, yeah, i thinnk vanhoof is also still struggling to get his verizon variant to work [12:48] mine is luckily a plain GT-I9100 [12:49] i think slangasek also has one of tehse weirdos that were modified for a network provider [12:49] rsalveti: ah thanks [12:49] rsalveti, definitely between adb root and adb shell calls [12:49] bug 1143946 [12:49] Launchpad bug 1143946 in Phablet Tools "phablet-flash fails on first run" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1143946 [12:49] yeah [12:50] i even run into issues with that manually [12:50] ogra_`: My favourite part about the skyrocket variant is that they're identical at the hardware level, but for whatever crazy reason, the volume/power combinations for accessing recovery/download modes are DIFFERENT between Rogers and AT&T phones. [12:50] ogra_`: Can't fathom how that came to be, or why anyone thought that was a good idea. [12:51] oh my [12:51] i bet that took a while to figure out, eh ? :) [12:51] It took a lot of angry button-mashing when all the AT&T-centric HOWTOs were wrong for me, yes. :P [12:51] *sigh* why the heck do people want to run ubuntu touch on their RPi ! [12:52] that thread starts to annoy me [12:52] But, much like fighting games on the SNES, if you mash enough buttons randomly, eventually you win. [12:52] haha [13:06] lol [13:07] ogra_`, it is quite simple, people purchased the rpi thinking that it would be the go-to hardware [13:07] yeah, i still wonder what made them think that [13:07] because they don't understand the whole ARMvX issue [13:07] ogra_`, pricepoint [13:07] right [13:07] ogra_`, everyone has this notion that if something is cheap, it will become the standard [13:08] heh, so "ceapest" *must* be good ... indeeed :) [13:08] *cheapest [13:09] well, i was hoping to not have any RPi discussions anymore, but somehow that crap is re-occuring every few months [13:09] yeah [13:09] ogra_`, hrw eh, I don't mind using a qwerty as long as I have convenient access to dead keys... [13:10] yeah, thats tricky on the chromebook ... [13:10] there are so many keys missing [13:10] * ogra_` really misses delete [13:10] I did a whole rant the other day about how people still insist on releasing armv6 devices in another chan, and how I will only consider something if it is armv7 but even then there are conditions, and the first thing someone asked me was if I owned a rpi, and if not am I planning to [13:10] ogra_`: I have Del on F10 [13:11] hrw, i have vol up there (as labeled) [13:11] the three volume keys are actually mapped like labeled for me [13:11] (indeed i could change that but would have to re-map the volume stuff elsewhere) [13:12] and wheer del usually sits there is the power key ... [13:20] ogra_`: Esc F1 F2 F5 F11 F4 VolDown VolUp PgUp PgDown Delete Power - my setup [13:21] lilstevie: devices ogra_`: does the rpi discussion frequency matches the batch rpi shipments arrival from china? [13:30] heh, no idea, i try to stay away as far as i can from the RPi :) [13:31] its just crappy proprietary HW [13:31] OpenCrap (tm) [13:31] heh [13:32] its like a broadcom wlan card that expanded to a whole PC [13:32] ;) [13:33] marvin24: on which devices you checked your flash-kernel for DT devices patch? [13:34] hrw: ac100 [13:34] but should work on all tegra2/3/4 [13:34] on chromebook I do not produce /lib/firmware/KERNELVER/ libs [13:35] libs? or device-tree? [13:35] device-tree [13:35] sory [13:35] hrw: Well, you should start. :) [13:35] this actually comes from the ubuntu raring kernel (3.8) [13:35] hrw: The distro mainline kernels do. [13:35] infinity: maybe one day when I switch to uboot chainload [13:36] hrw: does /proc/cpuinfo contain "Flattened Device Tree" at all? [13:36] marvin24: Hardware : SAMSUNG EXYNOS5 (Flattened Device Tree) [13:36] ok [13:37] infinity: kernel packaging is weird enough already [13:42] * xnox notices that pxz and busybox compatability has been fixed now. [13:42] * xnox TODO merge busybox [13:42] \o/ [13:42] damned, so i wont have any excuse anymore to not implement xz tarballs === NekoXP is now known as Neko [14:03] lp 1126836 [14:03] Launchpad bug 1126836 in ubuntu-nexus7 "The error "df: warning: cannot read table of mounted filesystems: No such file or directory" is shown. Splash screen appears, then black screen." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1126836 [14:03] this is exactly what happens to me [14:04] which is still unexplainable to me === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun [14:04] at least i'm not the only one [14:05] ppisati, no, thats the whoopsie bug that was fixed the same week [14:05] ogra_`: tried yesterday img, still there [14:05] it exposed the exact same behavior [14:05] yes, you said so [14:06] but it is definitely not realted to that one [14:06] everyone who had that issue confirmed it fixed after the whoopsie fix [14:06] and it was weeks ago [14:07] i'm pretty sure what you see is kernel/HW related [14:08] can we have the serial console on usb? [14:08] i se network manager keeps trying to bring up usb0 [14:08] so i guess kernel is still alive [14:09] ppisati, there is a serial console on usb ... in parallel to the usb0 iface [14:10] check your dmesg [14:10] the prob is that yu first need to modify the bootimg to boot with init=/bin/bash, then set a root PW, drop the init= again to be able to log in [14:10] ogra_`: no new ttyUSB* here [14:11] its ttyAMA or some such [14:11] * ogra_` forgot how the composite gadget calls it [14:11] ok [14:11] i see the serial [14:11] you should get a login [14:11] yep [14:11] but there is no user or root pw [14:12] ogra_`: can't we set a default user? ubuntu/ubuntu? [14:13] not without horrid hackery, nope [14:13] :( === ogra_` is now known as ogra_ [14:38] ogra_, hrw the chromebook keyboard doesn't seem really usable... I'm wondering if a nexus10 + bt keyboard wouldn't be better (though three times more expensive) [14:38] Snark: depends what you need [14:43] depnds if you want to sit in a comfy chair with the thing on your lap or not [14:43] if you always have a table its no issue to use an nx10 [14:49] ogra_, http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/clavier-souris-webcam/bluestork-clavier-bluetooth-avec-support-tablette/f-10702151616-bskbpadbtf.html ? [14:50] well, i guess it will be wobbly and loose ... but try it [14:50] ogra_: the nexus7 img, what kind of archive is that? tgz? squash? [14:50] i used my nx7 for a while with wireless kbd ... and its slightly painful to always have to search a place to have it stand on [14:51] ppisati, a special fastboot ext4 based sparse file format .... containing a rootfs tarball [14:52] ogra_: can i "open" it in some way? [14:52] you can convert it with simg2img from android-fsutils [14:52] then you can loop mount it === ZeroChaos is now known as Zero_Chaos === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun === phh_ is now known as phh === yofel_ is now known as yofel === mhall119 is now known as mhall119|lunch === XenGi_ is now known as XenGi === mhall119|lunch is now known as mhall119 [18:12] * Snark wonders when the new batch of arm tablets will get out... april? may? [18:47] Snark: what tablets? [18:54] RoyK, hmmm... isn't it the right word? [18:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablet_computer <- it's the right word [18:56] RoyK, I don't understand your question, then [18:56] what arm tablets are you talking about? [19:00] Snark: They don't tend to release in batches, I think is the confusion. Manufacturers release products when they release products... [19:01] there are generally points in time where they make big announces [19:02] and my question is : when is the next occasion they have to make such? [19:07] Snark: You'd have to ask every manufacturer that. [19:08] My calendar doesn't have a "big tablet announcement day" on it. [19:10] infinity, generally CES is the big tablet announcement day ;) [19:11] except it's more like a weekend. Google IO is the "we weren't ready at CES" fallback. But they do tend to announce them all at once to get one-up on each other, at CES, and then go silent (and usually don't produce) for the rest of the year. [19:11] Snark, so you gotta wait until January basically [19:12] the "new batch" came out already, got zero traction because the Nexus 7+10 beat the shit out of them. [19:38] ok [19:44] and asus, who are usually pretty vocal about their refreshes haven't done one yet, probably cause their weird lifecycle with tf201/tf300t/tf700 + n7 [21:16] Hi guys, I'm building a minimal image for sabre lite [21:17] everything boots correctly, but cannot make ethernet working [21:18] there is no eth0, and ifup eth0 raise an error [21:18] bootlog shows no signs of ethernet device?! [21:20] ogra_: have you some hints? [21:34] anybody here? [21:46] I think I solved my problem [21:46] it related to an invalid mac address in uboot [21:47] bug 817315 [21:47] Launchpad bug 817315 in Linaro U-Boot "eth0 doesn't get a valid MAC address on startup" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/817315 [21:48] bye, thank you