[00:16] czajkowski, I talked to Riddell about it [00:16] he didn't check with Canonical [00:17] I think it was probably just a bad choice of words [07:45] good morning [08:05] czajkowski, not my mix - I didn't get to record last night - but you might like http://www.mixcloud.com/Frohlocker/frohlocker-spring-thing-bass-bass-kling-kling-studio-mix-132013/ [08:38] hola dpm [08:38] hey dholbach [08:38] how's life over there? [08:39] dpm, can we twist the design team's arm some more? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSDKDays/Prep :) [08:40] dholbach, I poked them a few times more yesterday, but I got no response :/ [08:40] I'll ping them when they're up in about 20 mins [08:40] if not I guess we'll have to find two other folks :) [08:41] I could do another one, but it'd be nice to find some app developer to do a session. I'll send another reminder to the 2 guys who haven't come back to me yet [08:41] yes, I agree [08:41] that reminds me - I have to mail the core apps people [08:49] dholbach: It's on in the background while I eat breakfast and tackle my inbox fromhell :) [08:49] don't remind me of my inbox [09:00] czajkowski, thanks Laura :-P [09:03] Best thing I did last night, went to bed at 1 am, becuase I was tackling inbox from 12 to 1. [09:03] Woke up to Inbox Zero. Best feeling ever. [09:03] heheh ;) [09:04] daker gave me a shock yesterday because we released LTP. [10:39] dholbach, only one more to go -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSDKDays/Prep [10:39] dholbach, when's next Ubuntu Open Week? [10:39] yoohoo! [10:39] smartboyhw, we usually did it after the release always - JoseeAntonioR and jcastro probably know [10:39] dholbach, yeah:) [10:40] * smartboyhw wants to help with it (i.e. planning and such) this Open Week:p [10:40] sweet [10:40] I'm sure your help will be much appreciated [11:17] nigelb: :) [11:31] dholbach: hey, will you do a hangout today? [11:32] smartboyhw: we still need to coordinate how openweek will work [11:37] JoseeAntonioR, how then? === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [11:41] dholbach, have you talked with JoseeAntonioR about the SDK Days? [11:45] dpm, mentioned it in passing, but will have a chat with him once he's up later on [11:48] dholbach, he seems to be up now, that's why I thought I'd ping him ^^ [11:48] hey JoseeAntonioR - como estas muchacho? [11:51] dholbach: hey, getting ready for school atm... when are the sdk days starting? [11:51] JoseeAntonioR, thursday and friday - 15-21 utc :) [11:52] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSDKDays/Prep is the preliminary schedule [11:52] ok, that can be done easily with uonair :) [11:52] :-D [11:52] \o/ [11:52] (considering they would be 55 mins sessions to get the change done) [11:53] dpm, what do you think about a "ubuntu touch q&a" session? it might be not be a full replacement for a "platform overview" session, but would be very easy to organise [11:53] dpm, app authors could ask all the questions they have about touch itself [11:53] JoseeAntonioR, sure I'm happy to let the speakers know to finish early [11:54] dholbach, dpm: just to let you know, I won't be around by those times, so can you pleas find someone who can run those? [11:54] we'll work on staffing the team for things like this not to happen [11:54] JoseeAntonioR, yeah, I'm glad we had the vUDS session about this :) [11:55] yep! [11:55] JoseeAntonioR, can you let me know who has the keys to uonair right now? [11:55] JoseeAntonioR, how about Open Week?:P (Finish the SDK one first) [11:55] that'll make coordination a bit easier - I'm happy to set up a bunch of these hangouts, but probably can't stay until they all finish [11:56] dholbach: I do, you do, Jono and Benjamin Kerensa do [11:56] I think also David and Nicholas, may be worth asking :) [11:57] smartboyhw: can we talk about this one later on? I'm about to rush for school in 2mins [11:57] zequence, bye bye [11:57] might also be worth extending the group of folks who have the keys :) [11:57] Oops [11:57] JoseeAntonioR, bye bye [11:57] Sorry zequence [11:57] dholbach: yeah, those are staffers [11:57] Didier Roche may have them too [11:57] and don't forget Jorge [11:58] JoseeAntonioR, muchas gracias! [11:58] np :) [11:59] dholbach, dpm: make sure to make the announcemnt today, and I'll move those to the calendar once I reach a decent connection [11:59] * JoseeAntonioR dissapears [11:59] sure sure [11:59] see you in a bit [12:01] thanks JoseeAntonioR! [12:05] dpm, what do you think about the ubuntu touch Q&A? [12:06] dholbach, sorry, I was just writing about that and got pinged somewhere else. So, [12:06] :) [12:06] * dholbach hands the ping deflector over to dpm [12:07] * dpm prefers using a transmogrifier [12:07] oh, i had an idea in bed last night! [12:07] lol [12:07] eek! === popey_ is now known as popey [12:08] http://calvinandhobbes.wikia.com/wiki/Transmogrifier [12:08] an ubuntu core apps clinic [12:08] where we set aside specific hours here and there to guarantee someone will be around to answer questions on irc [12:08] like a doctor / MP does a surgery [12:09] you just turn up with your questions and we make sure we set aside that time so we're not AFK or in meetings [12:09] if nobody turns up, we can crack on with other work [12:09] popey, quite an ide [12:09] sounds great to me [12:09] but the slot is well publicised and allows for multiple app developers [12:09] rather than having app-specific meetings [12:10] we publish the log as if it were a meeting, and highlight any specific interesting conversations / decisions on the wiki / list / blog [12:10] dholbach, re: the touch Q&A yes, it's a good idea, but we should make sure the people answering the questions are at least a bit familiar with the SDK as well [12:10] hum... should that be part of the sdk days or separate? [12:10] separate [12:10] and regular [12:10] ok [12:10] semi-meetings [12:10] and during the working day for canonical people so we know they will be around [12:10] That is:P [12:11] "Ubuntu Core Apps Surgery" or "Ubuntu Core Apps Clinic" - which give the impression we're solving problems.. [12:11] rather than just chatter [12:11] it was one of those ideas I had whilst drifting off, so may well be silly :D [12:14] popey, I think it's a good idea, but what I would recommend is to stick with the current regular meetings for at least a couple of weeks more before changing the process again. Right now, the teams need cadence and guidance, and I think it's important to keep the pace we started last week with the meetings. [12:14] sure [12:29] dpm, http://pad.ubuntu.com/9kYJOxlsyb - feel free to update - I'll go and ping a few folks about the remaining session slot and who will kick off the sessions [12:32] dpm, do you think we should just add a big fat link to uonair above the timetable? [12:34] dholbach, yes, I think that's a good idea [12:36] :) [12:38] dholbach, I've added a note about joining, and I'll add a quick note about asking questions. What channel do you think we should use? #ubuntu-app-devel (so that we can bring some life into it) or #ubuntu-touch (to use the current momentum of the phone/tablet announcement) [12:38] actually, that's an open question to everyone on the channel, feel free to chip in :) === cprofitt_ is now known as cprofitt [12:40] #ubuntu-app-devel sounds good to me [12:40] we just need to change the link on uonair [12:42] ok, then I've added that to the announcement [12:42] sweet [14:40] dpm, where shall we do the announcements - shall I post on the fridge and then get it on omg? [14:40] dpm, we might need to change the wiki page a bit - let me do that first [14:40] JoseeAntonioR, the schedule for the SDK days is filled - do we need to add stuff to a calendar or some such? [15:00] hey jono [15:00] dholbach, hey, lets go [15:00] jono, I used the hangout in the calendar [15:08] hi dholbach, sorry, I was away for lunch. I think d.u.c would be a better place than the fridge. d.u.c goes to the planet too [15:08] sounds good [15:09] dpm, in a call, but I'll take care of the wiki page [15:09] dholbach, sure, let me know if I can help when you're done with the call [15:11] dholbach, lets restart [15:11] jono, yep [15:31] mhall119, will just be a min and then will be there [15:33] jono: np, whenever you're ready [15:51] dpm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSDKDays ← do you think the link is obvious? [15:51] dholbach, what? no marching ants around the link? [15:53] dpm, what's the markup for that? I just know the monkeys swinging from left to right - that's {{🐵}} - right? [15:53] :-P [15:56] dholbach, ok, ok, you can use the monkey markup to make it more obvious, then ;) [15:57] :-) [16:47] http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1a5lcf/announcing_the_first_ubuntu_sdk_days/ yay! upvotes appreciated === Topic unset by vibhav on #ubuntu-community-team [16:48] Oops [16:49] Could some change the topic? [16:49] My IRC client is misbehaving === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://goo.gl/PyfNU || Don't forget to "flesh them out a little bit" || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): work items || [16:49] dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5 [16:49] bah! [16:49] popey: how did you roll back to the last topic [16:49] * vibhav hugs poppy === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://goo.gl/PyfNU || Don't forget to "flesh them out a little bit" || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): work items || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5 [16:50] popey* [16:50] done \o/ [16:50] czajkowski: magic [16:50] and/or copy/paste, you choose [16:50] Anyways, sorry for the unnecessary commotion [16:50] np ☺ [16:51] xchat huh? cursor in the wrong place? easily done [16:51] popey: andchat [16:51] I managed to paste an ubuntu link into a Jolly etherpad earlier today [16:51] made them all go ʘ‿ಠ [16:51] Middle click? [16:51] ya [16:52] D: [16:52] Every. Damn. Time. === mhall119 is now known as mhall119|lunch [17:33] rrnwexec, perfect :) [17:33] all right my friends - time for me to call it a day - see you all tomorrow! :) [17:34] dholbach: happy to help. have a nice evening. [17:34] :) [17:34] you too [17:34] * dpm calls it a day too [17:34] see you all [17:35] Good night community [17:54] JoseeAntonioR: hey, do you know where I can find the onair video where we talked about the smart scopes service? === mhall119|lunch is now known as mhall119 [18:48] hey mhall119, how will people report bugs against https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app ? [18:48] hmm, good question [18:49] daker: I'll poke ken [19:06] mhall119: it's not the only one [19:08] daker: what else? [19:08] I enabled bug tracking on the core apps that were missing it [19:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app [19:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/gallery-app [19:09] https://bugs.launchpad.net/notes-app [19:09] right, the non-core ones [19:09] well, "core" ones ☺ [19:10] https://launchpad.net/share-app [19:12] and what's the difference between qtubuntu-camera & camera-app ? [21:21] aloha [21:31] czajkowski: hi [21:32] evening hows things daker [21:33] czajkowski: fine :)