[08:38] <airurando> mornin'
[08:49] <AndrewMcC> morning!
[08:50] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:50] <czajkowski> hows folks?
[08:51] <AndrewMcC> A little cold, but otherwise good.
[08:51] <AndrewMcC> You?
[08:57] <airurando> the fire has been set by my wonderful wife and the coal is in.
[08:58] <airurando> the house at least should stay above freezing.
[08:58] <czajkowski> awwwww nice
[08:58] <czajkowski> we have sunshine today
[08:58] <czajkowski> no snow as of yet
[08:58] <czajkowski> but a bitter bitter evil cold chill
[08:59] <airurando> exactly the same here
[08:59] <airurando> wierd
[09:00] <airurando> would love the clouds to stay away so that we might see the commet tonight.
[09:00] <zmoylan> it should be visible next week as well so it increases the chances
[09:01] <airurando> *weird and *comet
[09:01] <airurando> I thought best viewing was over the next couple of days.
[09:10] <zmoylan> http://earthsky.org/space/comet-panstarrs-possibly-visible-to-eye-in-march-2013
[09:11] <zmoylan> the moon will interfere with the view but it may still be visible
[09:11] <czajkowski> oh interesting
[09:12] <zmoylan> so break out the binoculars and give it a watch.  and never use them any where near the sun!
[09:14] <airurando> and of course if you can go somewhere with low levels of light polution in would help.
[09:16] <slashbel> aye, we're planning a ride out to wicklow gap armed with ebel's telescope on a clear summer's day
[09:17] <zmoylan> the current comet won't be visible then slashbel
[09:18] <zmoylan> though there is another later in the year
[09:19] <slashbel> aye, but it's too cold to head to wicklow gap
[09:19] <zmoylan> that's why thermos flasks were invented! :-)
[09:19] <slashbel> the roads may be impassable
[09:19] <slashbel> tis part of the point, getting away from civilisation
[09:20] <zmoylan> welcome to ireland were civilisation is only a thin veneer :-)
[09:22] <slashbel> well if you will travel outside the pale…
[09:23] <zmoylan> muck savages all! :-D
[09:23] <airurando> how far out does the pale go?
[09:24] <zmoylan> depends on the year.  at it's smallest dalkey in the south iirc
[09:24] <zmoylan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pale
[09:25] <zmoylan> we'd clawed most of the land back pre queen elisabeth the first
[09:26] <zmoylan> or the invaders had gone native.  more irish than the irish themselves.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutes_of_Kilkenny
[09:31] <slashbel> although during Elisabeth I reign all the island was under English control (as opposed to British control)
[09:32] <zmoylan> tell that the pirate queen who popped into see qe i.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_O'Malley
[09:33] <slashbel> she went to London to meet Elizabeth I
[09:33] <slashbel> there became an understanding between them
[09:33] <slashbel> we went to see one of her castles near achill, it's tiny and remote
[09:36] <zmoylan> and while it also the time of the flight of the earls there victories gave rise to an expression in england.  can't remember the phrase the storyteller told me but something along the lines of 'better to be hanged as a deserter in england than die like a dog in ireland'
[09:38] <slashbel> describing it as a 'flight' is always a bit unfair, the intention as i understand was to raise an invasion force from the mainland
[09:39] <slashbel> but for political reason that didn't happen
[09:40] <zmoylan> it was the end of brehon law in ireland.  the end of celtic rule.
[09:40] <slashbel> aye
[10:07] <airurando> Is there any thoughts in here on whether or not holding a team irc meeting on a weekend evening would be better than a weekday evening.
[10:07] <airurando> I ask because I got some feedback indicating that a weekend meeting would be better.
[10:08] <zmoylan> i would suspect people would have more plans for the weekend.  though i could be wrong
[10:08] <airurando> zmoylan I agree
[10:08] <airurando> I was surprised to get that feedback
[10:08] <airurando> but thought it better to discuss it further
[10:08] <zmoylan> weddings, mini holidays random events and groups
[10:08] <airurando> pub!!