[00:04] <shadeslayer> yofel: have you looked into how we can add more tests ?
[00:05] <shadeslayer> like, starting X, starting KDE, launching dolphin
[00:05] <yofel> look at the post_upgrade_tests. I haven't looked at them much yet
[00:06] <shadeslayer> zomg
[00:06] <shadeslayer> someone fixed qtwebkit
[00:06] <shadeslayer> adconrad++
[00:06] <shadeslayer> og
[00:06] <shadeslayer> oh
[00:06] <shadeslayer> no, ppc still doesn't build, and it was forced into -release
[00:08] <yofel> shadeslayer: about X: possibly in EC2 or qemu. I tried to run X from LXC today and... did it wrong I guess
[00:09] <shadeslayer> maybe stgraber can advise on that?
[00:31] <shadeslayer> yofel: so, the only issue with LXC remaining is the grub issue?
[01:23] <phillw> xnox: ping
[02:07] <stgraber> shadeslayer: looks like it and Colin is looking at it, so that should be fixed soonish
[04:28] <phillw> SergioMenesesAFK:  ping
[05:42] <pitti> Good morning
[06:58] <shadeslayer> stgraber: cool, thanks
[07:45] <dholbach> good morning
[07:46] <pitti> hey dholbach
[07:47] <jibel> good morning
[07:47] <pitti> bonjour jibel
[07:47] <jibel> Hey pitti
[07:47] <dholbach> salut mes amis
[12:07] <cjwatson> I've fixed bug 1153992 and am going to be respinning a slew of images accordingly; currently working out which ones (probably mostly server/alternate but I'm not sure yet)
[12:41] <cjwatson> Raring respins as follows: Lubuntu Alternate *, Ubuntu Server * (I think the latter isn't taking part in the beta though)
[12:41] <cjwatson> Precise respins as follows: Kubuntu Alternate *, Ubuntu Alternate amd64+mac amd64 i386, Ubuntu Server *, Xubuntu Alternate *
[12:41] <cjwatson> All marked on the tracker.
[12:42] <smartboyhw> cjwatson, :)
[15:05] <smartboyhw> balloons, hiyas
[15:05] <balloons> smartboyhw, hello
[15:13] <smartboyhw> Actually balloons Startup Disk Creator never worked for me:P
[15:13] <balloons> smartboyhw, i'd like a nice test for t
[15:13] <balloons> so folks have expressed interest
[15:13] <balloons> yes, i hear it doesn't work from folks alot
[15:13] <smartboyhw> balloons, grr? /me is too busy on packaging + Beta 1 testing
[15:13] <balloons> so we should test it and get it fixed
[15:13] <balloons> it tends to regress each cycle
[15:13] <balloons> and give people trouble
[15:13] <balloons> anyways..
[15:14] <smartboyhw> balloons, very weird isn't it?
[15:15] <cjwatson> Somebody improving its autotests would help a lot, I expect
[15:17]  * smartboyhw does not know anything about autotests so he is out:P
[15:17] <phillw> well, after the power outages yesterday, my i/net speed has got higher! I now have the magnificent rate of ~ 140 Kb/s instead of ~ 70 :D
[15:18] <smartboyhw> phillw, XD
[15:18] <smartboyhw> phillw, how's Lubuntu testing going for Beta 1?
[15:18] <balloons> cjwatson, indeed
[15:19] <phillw> smartboyhw: I'm just zsyning up my amd64 for it, desktop PPC has passed, but alternate is a fail with bug 1153972
[15:19] <smartboyhw> ...
[15:20] <smartboyhw> I'm checking the Ubuntu Studio builds
[15:20] <smartboyhw> Should be alright (except the new artworks haven't arrived, the builds haven't finished)
[15:20] <phillw> artwork is not on freeze yet :)
[15:21] <phillw> I only know for certain, as the voting on lubuntu artwork has just finished :)
[15:21] <smartboyhw> phillw, for Ubuntu Studio we are getting it in today
[15:22] <smartboyhw> Just checking to see if it installs
[15:22] <smartboyhw> Damn forgetten to make TestDrive have bigger HDDs.
[15:24] <phillw> smartboyhw: so no beta 1 testing for ubuntustudio?
[15:25] <smartboyhw> phillw, no
[15:25] <smartboyhw> phillw, we are participating
[15:25] <smartboyhw> But then the artwork isn't in the respins (yet)
[15:25] <smartboyhw> so...
[15:25] <phillw> then artwork should be landing during the freeze for beta 1 :)
[15:26] <phillw> *should NOT be*
[15:26]  * smartboyhw shouldn't have said no, forgotten that English is no + no=no instead of no + no = yess
[15:26] <balloons> cjwatson, since i have you.. and maybe xnox too.. someone was asking about downgrades.. that is the old images used to allow you to take say a 12.04 install and "downgrade" to 11.10. I wouldn't really call it a downgrade, just a re-install of an older version, but supposedly there was terminology calling it a downgrade in old images. Can you confirm/deny this? Is "downgrading" like this going intended to be an option that appears when you us
[15:26] <smartboyhw> phillw, !?
[15:26] <balloons> e an image to install ubuntu on a pre-existing ubuntu installation?
[15:26] <smartboyhw> balloons, whoa!?
[15:27] <cjwatson> balloons: I think it exists largely by accident; I don't recall what it's called
[15:27] <cjwatson> I remember it took us by surprise when we started getting bug reports about it breaking
[15:27] <balloons> cjohnston, that was what i suspected.. So in short, this was never intended
[15:28] <cjohnston> :-(
[15:28] <balloons> But imho, you can simply do a fresh install and re-mount your /home yourself and achieve something very similar... literally downgrading packages is not going to work
[15:28] <balloons> kk, thanks
[15:29] <balloons> cjohnston, sorry mate.. blame autocomplete!
[15:29] <cjohnston> 1 2 3 tab
[15:29] <cjohnston> I thought maybe you had some insight as to my system going read only
[15:30] <cjohnston> twice :-/
[15:39] <xnox> balloons: we have safety nets to to prevent ubiquity from allowing that, but it can be forced to do so.
[15:40] <xnox> (these days)
[15:40] <balloons> hey xnox.. ahh.. so there's still magic ways around things I'm sure
[15:40] <xnox> balloons: the border line is that a devel-daily can be almost always be used to up/down grade devel release. Cause we don't know if the daily is newer or older than the dist-upgraded install.
[15:41] <xnox> balloons: it's entirely unsuported, and if things break the user gets to keep both pieces.
[15:41] <xnox> we will accept data-loss bugs, at most....
[15:41] <balloons> weird.. yea i supposed i dist-upgrade my system, then do an upgrade.. heh
[15:41] <balloons> to last night's image
[15:42] <xnox> exactly =) and currently i just let that through, for the sake of installed raring didn't upgrade for a month, grab a daily to perform in-place upgrade, which should be valid.
[19:30] <Noskcaj> does anyone know if we need to have a new version of bug 1065789 for this release? i'e just been reporting  it.
[19:58] <balloons> Noskcaj, I believe they want them filed against the ubuntu-website
[19:58] <balloons> not against the installer (they can't make the link work :-) )
[20:01] <Noskcaj> balloons, someone reported the bug anew today and i've marked it as a dup
[20:01] <balloons> Noskcaj, ty
[20:01] <balloons> how are you today?
[20:03] <Noskcaj> good. you?
[20:05] <balloons> not too bad.. i was feeling really sick yesterday night
[20:06] <balloons> "yesterday night'.. wow my english skills..
[20:07] <Noskcaj> would "last night" not have been easier to write
[20:08] <Noskcaj> i'm trying to make my gaming pc silent by using car parts to cool it.
[20:08] <Noskcaj> i have to go and eat food, bye
[20:19] <Letozaf_> balloons, Hi, I was just looking for some beta1 ISO to download and found this: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/261/builds/39529/downloads
[20:19] <Letozaf_> balloons, :D no link
[20:22] <balloons> nivr
[20:22] <balloons> i saw that on there.. i missed the no dl link tho
[20:22] <balloons> i blame plars
[20:23] <balloons> Letozaf_, i'll fix in a moment
[20:23] <balloons> ty
[20:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, no problem, I know were to go to fetch them anyway
[20:23] <balloons> Letozaf_, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntukylin/daily-live/current/
[20:24] <Letozaf_> balloons, ty I'm already downloading
[20:25] <Letozaf_> balloons, the download is quite slow :( I will probably have to zsync and test them tomorrow
[20:29] <Letozaf_> balloons, by the way as I never tested Ubuntu Kylin, will it be in Chinese ? I mean is there also English ?
[20:44] <balloons> ohh.. how did I miss this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1101867.. vbox4.2 made it to raring via contrib :-0
[20:55] <plars> balloons: what did I do now?
[20:55] <balloons> plars, lol.. i saw you joined, so i blamed u for ubuntukylin not having an iso download link
[20:56] <plars> balloons: oh good, I was concerned I might go all day without breaking something
[21:17] <Letozaf_> balloons, I had reported bug 1152942 and now I was trying to install on another USB key and got this after reboot https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwSy2uwGals0YnJYcjh6WUpXOTQ/edit?usp=sharing
[21:20] <balloons> Letozaf_, ohh my.. is the disl ok on that box?
[21:21] <Letozaf_> balloons, the strange thing is that the bug happened with one USB key and the picture thing happened on another USB key, as for the SD card, well maybe I should try to change that
[21:21] <balloons> yea.. that's quite odd
[21:22] <balloons> i'd want to make sure those disks are all in good shape
[21:22] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes maybe I will try to change the SD card and find another USB key and see what happens
[21:55] <phillw> balloons: it seems lp was having a break (possibly wanted a walk), the bug look up is now working again bug 1101867
[21:55] <balloons> ?
[21:56] <phillw> balloons: I tried to grab the details of that bug and lp gave me a polite 404 error, then the bots could not find it, or other bugs. All seems to have returned to normal :D
[22:37] <phillw> xnox: you still about?