[01:03] <krabador> ok, now the developer preview works. Now :)
[01:03] <krabador> Now?
[01:05] <RobbyF> yes?
[04:40] <lybeen> hi
[04:48] <genii-around> Hashcode: Looks like /system/bin/uchroot called from /system/bin/ubuntu_chroot is my issue. I get "clone: Invalid argument"  ... I have an strace if it helps
[04:51] <genii-around> Hashcode: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606893/
[04:52] <Hashcode> it's just a script
[04:53] <genii-around> Hashcode: Yes, but the uchroot it calls at the end is a binary
[04:53] <Hashcode> Ah yes
[04:53] <Hashcode> I see
[04:53] <Hashcode> execve("/system/bin/uchroot", ["/system/bin/uchroot"], [/* 25 vars */]) = 0
[04:54] <Hashcode> This looks like maybe a kernel issue?
[04:54] <Hashcode> Did you recompile the kernel w/ the new options set?
[04:59] <genii-around> Hashcode: Not yet. I got the latest dated cm-10.1-XXXXXX-UNOFFICIAL-solana.zip going, then manually copied the files which were unique from phablet-20130301-cm_solana.zip over. Then I copied the files from the armhf zipfile over to /data/ubuntu  and tried to manually run it from there in terminal emulator
[04:59] <Hashcode> Oh nm
[04:59] <Hashcode> That should have the right kernel in it
[04:59] <Hashcode> er
[04:59] <Hashcode> phablet has the right kernel in it
[05:00] <Hashcode> don't change the /system/etc/kexec/kernel file.
[05:00] <genii-around> OK
[05:00] <Hashcode> it's different from the cm one
[05:03]  * genii-around makes more coffee and goes to investigate more
[05:29] <genii-around> Hashcode: I rebooted the phone , it seemed to boot but screen went black. I'm in by adb shell now. Looks everything's running and there's just no graphics. /data/ubuntu/var/log/upstart/udev-fallback-graphics.log   indicates it's looking for a nonexistent module
[07:08] <doomlord> i've heard that ubuntu-on-arm has 3-finger drag... how many multitouch gestures does it have?
[07:08] <doomlord> does it have things like pinch for "expo" or "scale" and so on
[07:08] <doomlord> 4 fingers etcc
[07:10] <Nimble> I know pinching works for scaling
[07:10] <doomlord> when i say 'scale' i mean the compiz plugin
[07:11] <doomlord> what makes a mac laptop awesome is the trackpad gestures for desktop management ... I hope ubuntu on touchscreen-laptops & tablets can eventually match it
[07:13] <Nimble> there are trackpad gestures for unity
[07:13] <Nimble> but it depends a lot on if support has been put in for each specific trackpad
[07:13] <doomlord> i've got 2finger scrolling on my laptop yes
[07:13] <Nimble> no, I'm talking about 3 finger and 4 finger stuff
[07:13] <Nimble> support for mine was put into 13.04 but I can't figure out how to get it in 12.10
[07:13] <doomlord> i know my laptop hardware doesn't do 3/4 fingers unfortunately
[07:14] <doomlord> sounds nice
[07:14] <doomlord> i found myslef using 3finger drag alot on the mac
[07:15] <Nimble> I use a lot of 3/4 finger gestures on windows
[07:15] <Nimble> so I'd like to have it on ubuntu too because I use it way more often
[07:15] <doomlord> where linux "keeps up" for me is 'focus follows mouse', which i much prefer
[07:16] <doomlord> (even with globalmenu i find focus follows mouse is still useful. i just move the currnet windows up if i want to use the menu)
[07:18] <Nimble> hm
[07:24] <doomlord> its fast for switching windows on a trackpad
[07:25] <doomlord> desktop switching from moving off the edge can sometimes be ok too
[07:25] <Nimble> I like to use the workspaces
[07:26] <IanWizard-Cloud> I don't see anyone in here I recognize...
[07:26]  * IanWizard-Cloud says, realizing that he's been out of the circles far too long.
[07:26] <doomlord> i'm not regular here
[07:26] <doomlord> i only dropped by when ubuntu-touch was released and check occasionally
[07:47] <dholbach> good morning
[08:59] <Art-X> morning
[09:01] <Art-X> I was wondering if canonical will release a continued version of the source instead of a preview any time soon?
[09:04] <ogra_> Art-X, how do you mean ?
[09:04] <ogra_> Art-X, all source code is available in public branches since the demo was released ... and there are daily images to test the progress
[09:07] <Art-X> ah, I'm sorry, I'm not developing on it at the moment, but planning to..
[09:10] <ogra_> Art-X, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute should have links to all the sources
[09:11] <Art-X> ogra_, ok.. thank you :-) I'll have a look at that
[09:11] <ogra_> (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview for userspace ... pahblet.ubuntu.com for the android layer)
[09:11] <ogra_> everything you dont find in either of them comes from the ubuntu archive
[09:12] <ogra_> oh, and i think there was recently a new project formed for the core apps
[09:13] <Art-X> ogra_, interesting :-) do you know anything about the status of the core apps?
[09:14] <Art-X> there isn't much info on the wiki about that
[09:14] <Art-X> well alot of info
[09:14] <Art-X> but not the actual progress
[09:15] <Art-X> I stand corrected
[09:15] <Art-X> didn't click far enough..
[09:16] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps
[09:16] <ogra_> :)
[09:16] <ogra_> there ois a wikipage for everything
[09:26] <MrNerd> Heyyy
[09:27] <Hazza> sup
[09:27] <MrNerd> http://pastebin.com/T13grZP0 whats this mean?
[09:28] <MrNerd> How is everyone?
[09:28] <Hazza> good - not sure bout logcat sorry - whats wrong?
[09:30] <MrNerd> No one can boot and thats what they get.
[09:30] <MrNerd> So im trying to clear things up
[09:30] <Hazza> on one at all can boot at the moment?
[09:31] <MrNerd> A few can
[09:31] <Hazza> *no
[09:31] <MrNerd> Like 2 other besides myself have gotten it
[09:31] <Hazza> using daily yer?
[09:31] <MrNerd> No.
[09:32] <Hazza> well that was erupt
[09:32] <MrNerd> Sorry
[09:32] <MrNerd> Backing up apps
[09:32] <Hazza> no all good
[09:33] <MrNerd> Since i bricked my phone i cant help much atm.
[09:34] <Hazza> you bricked your galaxy?
[09:35] <Hazza> I didn't think it was possible
[09:37] <MrNerd> I dont have a galaxy.
[09:37] <MrNerd> I ported it
[09:37] <MrNerd> Over to evo lte
[09:37] <MrNerd> Didn't matter
[09:37] <Hazza> how did you brick
[09:37] <MrNerd> Not flashing the rom.
[09:38] <Hazza> so you bricked a phone by not flashing a rom?
[09:38] <MrNerd> It doesnt matter. How i did it thats  not the issue.
[09:39] <Hazza> I'm just asking??
[09:39] <MrNerd> Its not important.
[09:40] <MrNerd> I dont like explaining it 70 times.
[09:40] <Hazza> ok, its all good
[10:08] <dholbach> rsalveti, do you know how the changelog idea is coming along? maybe we should have a quick chat later on about it?
[10:26] <kevinwincott> has anyone installed touch on an transformer 101?
[10:26] <Namidairo> lol
[10:28] <kevinwincott> i have a spare one lying around and wanted to give it a try, i use Ubuntu reguarly but have never played with Android before
[10:36] <ogra_> kevinwincott, yup, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[10:36] <dun1982> Hi, is there anyone else working with gt-p6800?
[10:36] <dun1982> or owning it?
[10:37] <kevinwincott> thanks ogra,
[10:37] <dun1982> And is it possible to run ubuntu-touch in any exynos4 based device at the moment? Is the i9100 working at the moment?
[10:37] <ogra_> dun1982, according to the wiki thats you ?!?
[10:37] <dun1982> Yes, I know :)
[10:38] <dun1982> And I added myself there as well, the question was, is there anyone _else_:)
[10:38] <dun1982> well, the answer i9300 was found from xda :)
[10:54] <mainerror> 'lo
[10:55] <mainerror> ogra_: Regarding your email on the armel question, I'd be surprised if you'd still support true i386 systems post 3.8.2 :D
[10:56] <mainerror> Well, not surprised but I'd sure love to see how. hehe
[11:00] <ogra_> hehe, yeah
[11:00] <ogra_> but we also dropped i486 and non PAE arches
[11:01] <ogra_> (so even old pentium wont work anymore)
[11:05] <Namidairo> because everyone ran one of those
[11:08] <lilstevie> oldest system I have laying around is a p4
[11:08] <lilstevie> and that is EM64T capable
[11:20] <dun1982> lilstevie: No amiga500 or likes?
[11:20] <dun1982> p4 is quite new if you ask me...
[11:22] <lilstevie> dun1982, in stock? no
[11:22] <lilstevie> dun1982, about 4 years ago I cleaned house and ditched all my antiquated hardware
[11:23] <mainerror> dun1982: "new" is relative, especially in the hardware world.
[11:26] <dun1982> or I might be already too old :)
[11:26] <dun1982> If I regard p4 a new design still :)
[11:31] <mainerror> heh
[11:38] <dun1982> The oldest x86 hardware still laying around for me is 2005 bought Centrino laptop.
[11:39] <dun1982> The olders ppc hardware laying around still is this buffalo terastation nas from 2006 or 2007.
[11:44] <lilstevie> dun1982, see your oldest x86 hardware is same era as mine :p
[11:44] <dun1982> lilstevie: well, as I said in x86, ppc world :)
[11:45] <dun1982> in arm it goes to closed 2000sh, and with z80 you can quess where that goes :)
[11:45] <dun1982> closed => closer
[11:45] <lilstevie> tbh I do have a laptop in pieces that I never think about :p
[11:45] <lilstevie> ibook g4
[11:45] <dun1982> it is good that you do not think about it :)
[11:45] <lilstevie> :p
[11:46] <dun1982> but anyway, good hardware for it's era.
[11:46] <lilstevie> absolute oldest thing with a cpu I have though is my original v1 playstation 1
[11:46] <dun1982> I think my little bro is still using his ibook g4 :)
[11:47] <lilstevie> the g4 was my friends, she used it up until 2 or 3 years ago, when someone drunkenly tripped over the charging cable and cracked the lcd
[11:47] <dun1982> Hm... I have still in original package my Sega MegaDrive, which went bad when Playstation 1 was released of course :)
[11:47] <lilstevie> I miss my megadrive
[11:48] <dun1982> I never did use nintendo or playstation (still wont use those two brands). I mainly game with Pc and Xbox :)
[11:48] <doomlord> lilstevie, did you have to get rid of it ?
[11:49] <lilstevie> I did at one point have a mint condition Atari 2600 too, no idea where that disappeared to
[11:49] <lilstevie> doomlord, yeah, one day in the late 90's it just stopped working
[11:50] <doomlord> is FPGA emulation an option that appeals
[11:50] <lilstevie> lol not really anymore, I no longer have any cartridges for it
[11:53] <infernonordost> hello
[11:55] <infernonordost> hello
[11:55] <infernonordost> can i flashing ubuntu touch for htc?
[11:56] <smartboyhw> infernonordost, what phone?
[11:56] <smartboyhw> There might be ports
[11:56] <infernonordost> htc one xl
[11:57] <infernonordost> today i have ubuntu 12.04 normal via vnc on my htc
[12:35] <traxmac> How can you tell what image you are running?
[12:36] <tsdgeos> there is something in etc i think
[12:36] <tsdgeos> forgot the exact path
[12:37]  * tsdgeos is not very useful
[12:38] <traxmac> ok
[12:38] <payloadd> grep -R $something /etc # where $something is something tsdgeos still remembers which must be near the line you are searching for
[12:39] <payloadd> like "image" "version" or some possible image names
[12:39] <tsdgeos> traxmac: buildstamp
[12:39] <tsdgeos> /etc/buildstamp
[12:39] <traxmac> ok
[12:39] <tsdgeos> root@localhost:/etc# cat buildstamp
[12:39] <tsdgeos> acubens Fri, 01 Mar 2013 05:23:11 +0000
[12:39] <tsdgeos> manhattan-quantal-armhf-20130301-1
[12:39] <tsdgeos> this is my non updated nexus7
[12:40] <traxmac> mine is base also
[12:44] <traxmac> do you see that connected using adb shell?
[12:45] <rsalveti> dholbach: it is, waiting on a change to be done at jenkins so I'm able to grab the rootfs manifest
[12:50] <dholbach> rsalveti, do you have a bug report or something for it? :)
[12:50] <rsalveti> dholbach: not actually, kind of depending on mmrazik|lunch :-)
[12:51] <dholbach> hey mmrazik :)
[12:51] <mmrazik> rsalveti: oh..srry.. forgot about that e-mail :-/
[12:51] <dholbach> we're talking about image changelogs in case you need some context
[12:51] <rsalveti> mmrazik: sure, np :-)
[12:51] <rsalveti> hm, our daily failed as well
[12:51] <rsalveti> probably due the dns issues
[12:52] <mmrazik> rsalveti: so all that I need to do is to scp the additional file?
[12:52] <rsalveti> mmrazik: yes
[12:55] <mmrazik> rsalveti: done. Should I just rebuild the last build to try it?
[12:55] <mmrazik> rsalveti: I tried the scp command locally and it seems to work
[12:55] <rsalveti> mmrazik: cool, just trigger a ibs_sync to see
[12:56] <mmrazik> rsalveti: actually...
[12:56] <mmrazik> rsalveti: this is the last step:
[12:56] <mmrazik>     scp $tar $target_builder:images
[12:56] <mmrazik> should I do the same with the manifest?
[12:56] <rsalveti> yes
[12:56] <rsalveti> otherwise I cannot get the file at our builder
[12:59] <rsalveti> mmrazik: did you find what was the issue with the dns server?
[12:59] <mmrazik> rsalveti: not really. It wasn't on our side. It looks like the bootspeed testing (done by platform qa team) was modifying the DNS in a way it broke it
[13:00] <mmrazik> rsalveti: ibs_sync now failed because of DNS :-/
[13:00] <rsalveti> argh =\
[13:05] <dholbach> hum... what can we do about the dns thing?
[13:06] <mmrazik> dholbach: I'm trying to ping retoaded
[13:06] <mmrazik> dholbach: it looks different from yesterday (but it might be the same cause)
[13:06] <mmrazik> argh
[13:10] <NazMir`> hello
[13:11] <NazMir`> I'm trying to add ubuntu core apps ppa on my device
[13:11] <NazMir`> and I get the following error "sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found"
[13:12] <NazMir`> I'm ssh'ing via usb
[13:12] <NazMir`> can anybody let me know whats missing?
[13:14] <ogra_`> NazMir`, add it manually to /etc/apt/sources.list (and add the gpg key manually too) or install the software-properties-common package
[13:14] <NazMir`> ogra_ thanks for the tip.
[13:19] <NazMir`> ogra_`: It worked. Much appreciate the help.
[13:20] <mmrazik> rsalveti: AFAICS ibs_sync now syncs the manifest (except the DNS errors; I workarounded for now by using an IP address)
[13:21] <rsalveti> mmrazik: thanks, will try another build then for the touch image
[13:26] <frdbrn> hello! i need help with RAZR XT910. I have installed like this tutorial and do not start the system. Only black screen.
[13:26] <frdbrn> here is the link
[13:26] <frdbrn> http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/11409-rommotorola-razr-ubuntu-touch-preview-0301-alpha-update-2/
[14:15] <rsalveti> awe_: so, at aosp google uses just one wpa_supplicant repo (one for 6 and one for 8)
[14:15] <rsalveti> awe_: at cyanogen there's also https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_external_wpa_supplicant_8_ti/commits/cm-10.1
[14:16] <rsalveti> which seems to be used by the omap devices (kfire)
[14:16] <gianguido> hi chan
[14:16] <rsalveti> but for the rest of the proprietary builds, there's no easy way to find out as they can customize and ship only the binaries
[14:17] <rsalveti> so in theory we can just check and make sure we're in sync with the public 8 based repo
[14:17] <rsalveti> https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_external_wpa_supplicant_8/commits/cm-10.1
[14:17] <ogra_`> cant we use ours instead and turn off wpa_supplicant on the android side ?
[14:18] <gianguido> who is working on i9300? because on the wiki there's still my name :)
[14:18] <ogra_`> it is definitely not in use on my SGS2 here
[14:19] <ogra_`> (since i load the dhd module on the ubuntu side in mine) ...
[14:19] <ogra_`> and it works just fine that way
[14:24] <rsalveti> ogra_`: we're using ours, we're just checking for incompatibilities
[14:24] <awe_> rsalveti, yea... that's what I found, but I'd seen a reference somewhere to vendor ( eg. Broadcom ) specific wpa_suppl libraries, and wasn't sure if on actual devices... the version(s) could be different than what's in the AOSP tree
[14:24] <rsalveti> due different versions
[14:24] <ogra_`> ah
[14:25] <rsalveti> there are indeed a few hardware specific libs
[14:25] <awe_> rsalveti, I guess we could just run wpa_supplicant -v on a stock device.  ;)-
[14:25] <rsalveti> let me get the link
[14:25] <Logan_Lecter> hello all
[14:25] <awe_> I'll take a look on my personal phone
[14:26] <rsalveti> awe_: http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_hardware_broadcom_wlan.git;a=tree;f=bcmdhd/wpa_supplicant_8_lib;h=fe9dc1d1c0d0c0f9301960e9fc89fa104456f441;hb=refs/heads/phablet-10.1
[14:26]  * awe_ isn't as brave as rsalevti and isn't yet running touch full-time on his own phone
[14:26] <Logan_Lecter> I have a little trouble when I build for ubuntu mobile
[14:26] <awe_> ahhhhhh
[14:26] <awe_> thanks rsalveti!
[14:26] <Logan_Lecter> bash: dh_make: command not found
[14:27] <rsalveti> http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_hardware_broadcom_wlan.git;a=tree;f=bcm4329/wpa_supplicant_8_lib;h=d3851716d855e10a7cd9ef5a41db75f73a4fd16c;hb=refs/heads/phablet-10.1
[14:27] <rsalveti> awe_: for qcom http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_hardware_qcom_wlan.git;a=tree;f=qcwcn/wpa_supplicant_8_lib;h=d573fffaf2cf867ea8f7d6a8d966f02e7c74f8e8;hb=refs/heads/phablet-10.1
[14:27] <Logan_Lecter> I do not know what to do
[14:28] <awe_> rsalveti, yea.. that's the missing special sauce
[14:29] <gianguido> Logan_Lecter, when this error comes out?
[14:29] <awe_> haven't worked down in the guts of wpa_suppl in awhile.... I'm pretty sure this is the cause of our poor 5G bandwidth performance
[14:29] <awe_> CRDA was a bit of a red herring
[14:30] <awe_> we may need to ship both versions...and do some runtime detection
[14:31] <rsalveti> yeah
[14:31] <Logan_Lecter> when i clicked build c++ projet on ubuntu devices
[14:32] <Logan_Lecter> and when i clicked on only run i have a other error
[14:33] <Logan_Lecter> he told me : you are not root
[14:33] <gianguido> mh
[14:34] <Logan_Lecter> gianguido: mh ?
[14:34] <gianguido> Logan_Lecter, i'm searching... dh_make is useful when you want to make deb packages
[14:35] <gianguido> did you installed it? is named "dh-make"
[14:36] <Logan_Lecter> i do not want
[14:36] <Logan_Lecter> just launch my apps in my device
[14:36] <Logan_Lecter> but if it's necesseray why not
[14:36] <gianguido> to deploy apps to your device, you firstly need to build a deb package to install
[14:36] <gianguido> ;)
[14:36] <Logan_Lecter> ok i test thx ;)
[14:36] <gianguido> let us know
[14:45] <Logan_Lecter> gianguido: it's not possible
[14:45] <gianguido> what Logan_Lecter
[14:45] <Logan_Lecter> sudo don't work on openssh connection
[14:46] <Logan_Lecter> "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[14:46] <dholbach> awe_, thanks for the update
[14:47] <Logan_Lecter> my log : http://pastebin.com/ZkQ3YcmN
[14:48] <DaBaang> hi
[14:49] <DaBaang> do we have a port for HP Touchpad that I could build?
[14:49] <awe_> dholbach, ;)-
[14:50]  * DaBaang looking for HP Touchpad port
[14:51] <gianguido> DaBaang, have you seen the devices port wiki page?
[14:51] <DaBaang> which one gianguido?
[14:51] <gianguido> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[14:53] <DaBaang> yes I have but it doesn't list Touchpad
[14:53] <dun1982> DaBaang: Be the man then and port it :)
[14:53] <dun1982> or woman or what ever you are :)
[14:53] <gianguido> or llama
[14:54] <DaBaang> working on it :)
[14:54] <gianguido> great!
[14:54] <DaBaang> a man of course
[14:54] <dun1982> For example, I have failed 2 weeks with my p6800
[14:54] <dun1982> But I still try...
[14:54] <DaBaang> just need some pointers on setting up the vendor tree
[14:55] <DaBaang> got all the blobs, kernel etc in place...
[14:55] <DaBaang> don't know where to look to go further
[14:55] <dun1982> So you can build the image with the guide then?
[14:55] <gianguido> DaBaang, read the guide?
[14:55] <dun1982> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[14:56] <DaBaang> yes
[14:57] <DaBaang> need to setup the "lunch <profile>"
[14:57] <dun1982> So you have the image in your <ubuntu-touch repository>/out/target ... and you have the md5 and zip-file?
[14:57] <DaBaang> is there any git repo available for another device that I could look at as an example?
[14:57] <dun1982> no information, try xda
[14:57] <DaBaang> not yet, I have to build first using brunch
[14:58] <dun1982> so basically, you do not have device nor kernel configurations yet?
[14:58] <DaBaang> what device you working on dun1982? and github repo of yours to check out?
[14:58] <dun1982> ie. you are looking what to put into .repo/manifest.xml ?
[14:58] <dun1982> I work with p6800
[14:59] <dun1982> The problem with that particular device is that it does not have profile in Cyanogenmod 10.1 directly.
[14:59] <gianguido> DaBaang, your device is officially supported by cm, right?
[14:59] <dun1982> So I had to fork the kernel soruces as my own repository and fork another for device and set them up.
[14:59] <daentech> DaBaang, have you looked here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175277
[14:59] <DaBaang> I have put in all that needed to go into manifest.xml but in addition need to put the vendor tree
[15:00] <DaBaang> yes, touchpad is officially supported by CM
[15:00] <dun1982> Then I had to read in what bits and pieces I need from there to get my first build to run. After that I try to get it to boot (where I am failing currently).
[15:00] <DaBaang> let me check that thread...
[15:00] <daentech> I believe in the thread it's being built using Evervolv source. I don't know how well it would work with CM10/10.1
[15:00] <dun1982> No need, what you essentially need is the kernel and the device row's (2 pcs for manifest.xml).
[15:01] <DaBaang> yes, I have gone through that thread, it just has the already built zip files. I am trying to do the same
[15:01] <DaBaang> and what do I select from the long list to execute lunch?
[15:02] <daentech> On the second page there appear to now be rough instructions
[15:02] <dun1982> I had the same issue and I had to work quite hard with github for searching any other projects that. Luckily I found 3 months old cm10.1 port which was saddly not supported by CM10.1 out of the box.
[15:02] <dun1982> What is the thread you are refering to?
[15:03] <DaBaang> the same one ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175277
[15:04] <DaBaang> let me dig into it some more, tks dun1982
[15:04] <dun1982> What is the device code for hp touchpad?
[15:04] <DaBaang> its "tenderloin"
[15:05] <dun1982> This should be working for your device as a starting point: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_hp_tenderloin/tree/jellybean
[15:06] <dun1982> https://github.com/CyanogenMod/hp-kernel-tenderloin/tree/ics for kernel (I cannot find newer version for Kernel...)
[15:06] <DaBaang> yeah, I have that in the manifest
[15:06] <dun1982> So the lines that you put into .repo/manifest.xml would be then...
[15:07] <k1l> the problem is that the hp touchpad didnt ship with android. so the android support is not fully given
[15:07] <DaBaang> yes
[15:08] <DaBaang> so I have to gather the pieces like: CyanogenMod/android_hardware_atheros_wlan
[15:08] <DaBaang> and : TheMuppets/proprietary_vendor_hp
[15:09] <DaBaang> after that a "repo sync"
[15:09] <dun1982> DaBaang:  <project path="device/hp/tenderloin" name="CyanogenMod/android_device_hp_tenderloin" remote="github" revision="refs/heads/jellybean" />
[15:09] <dun1982>  <project path="kernel/hp/tenderloin" name="CyanogenMod/hp-kernel-tenderloin" remote="github" revision="refs/heads/ics" />
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[15:09] <dun1982> Try first get it to build. Start adding new components after that to kernel.
[15:10] <DaBaang> and what do I select from the list that comes up with "lunch"
[15:10] <dun1982> What list?
[15:10] <dun1982> You put those two items to your .repo/manifest.xml
[15:10] <dun1982> Then you run repo sync
[15:11] <DaBaang> then?
[15:11] <dun1982> Then you go to device/hp/tenderloin and run the extract-tidbits.sh
[15:11] <DaBaang> ok, done
[15:11] <DaBaang> next
[15:11] <dun1982> then you go back to repo root
[15:11] <dun1982> and you write . build/envsetup.sh
[15:12] <dun1982> And then brunch tenderloin
[15:12] <dun1982> If you get error, check that you have latest openjdk-installed.
[15:12] <dun1982> It is not installed by default in new ubuntu-desktop-installation.
[15:12] <DaBaang> oh I see... I was trying to do run lunch that gave me a long list of options to choose from
[15:13] <dun1982> Then you should start seeing a long list of warnings and errors when the build environment tries to build your image.
[15:14] <dun1982> But I'm at that point now when I try to figure out how to get the damn image to boot :)
[15:15] <DaBaang> ok, let me work on that, ty dun1982
[15:15] <dun1982> But I'm now off to home.
[15:15] <daentech> There is a jellybean kernel for tenderloin: https://github.com/jcsullins/hp-kernel-tenderloin/tree/jellybean
[15:15] <dun1982> np.
[15:15] <daentech> I don't know what state it is in, I'm afraid, though
[15:16] <DaBaang> that kernel from jcsullins should be good to go. That guy is a genius
[15:16]  * DaBaang stepping out ...
[16:11] <penster> has the OS been sped up on phones or become more stable?
[16:21] <janimo> ogra_, dailies are still quantal as that's what the PPAs are at?
[16:22] <ogra_> janimo, right
[16:22] <mhall119> popey: what's the right mailing list for core apps development now?
[16:23] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps
[16:23] <popey> that one
[16:23] <mhall119> thanks
[16:23] <ogra_> penster, for me it is faster than android (but it is like that since day one here)
[16:23] <popey> we should make that more obvious on the wiki
[16:23] <mhall119> popey: is the design team watching that one?
[16:23] <mhall119> popey: on my TODO
[16:23] <penster> ogra, which phone did you install the os on
[16:24] <ogra_> penster, samsung SGS2
[16:24] <Ngtrieuvi92> how about HTC HD2?
[16:24] <penster> ogra, thats great! I used it with a galaxy nexus and it kept freezing
[16:25] <popey> yes mhall119
[16:25] <ogra_> well, they should be largely the same feature wise (ram CPU power etc ... ) though the nexus is an OMAP
[16:25] <Hashcode> Runs fine on the OMAPs I support.
[16:25] <mhall119> popey: cool, thanks
[16:26] <ogra_> Hashcode, yeah, i wouldnt expect it to be any worse or better on OMAPs than on exynos
[16:26] <Hashcode> A lot of it is the kernel / GPU drivers
[16:26] <ogra_> yep
[16:27] <ogra_> still though, we dont even run 10% of stuff a std. android would run ...
[16:27] <ogra_> so i'm surprised to hear its stuttery for anyone
[16:28] <Hashcode> That's sort of my point
[16:28] <Hashcode> If the device itself has hacked in gpu stuff
[16:28] <Hashcode> it won't run well regardless.
[16:28] <ogra_> the nexus is one of our official ones
[16:28] <Hashcode> oh
[16:28] <Hashcode> right.
[16:28] <ogra_> so i wouldnt expect hackery there :)
[16:28] <Hashcode> My stuff runs newer drivers than the GNex
[16:28] <ogra_> i would rather expect my SGS2 to misbehave
[16:29] <Hashcode> for PVR
[16:29] <Hashcode> true
[16:29] <ogra_> (which it does if using the latest mali driver btw... but its falwless with the former version which i currently use)
[16:29] <ogra_> *flawless
[16:29] <Hashcode> is that a kernel interaction issue w/ the newer mali driver?
[16:30] <Hashcode> Like it needs 3.4 or something?
[16:30] <ogra_> no, it runs fine but has massive font rendering probs
[16:30] <Hashcode> bizarre
[16:31] <ogra_> you get garbled fonts on all devices using the latest mali it seems ... at least thats what i heard from the other samsung ports
[16:31] <ogra_> rolling back one version fixes it though ...
[16:31]  * ogra_ wrote his first xda post today ... 
[16:32] <ogra_> actually the first forum post in my life :)
[16:32] <Hashcode> Hah
[16:32] <ogra_> (and it is as painful as i imagined)
[16:32] <Hashcode> I feel bad for you :P
[16:33] <popey> mhall119: someone left a comment on your blog that the bug trackers for some core apps were not enabled, so he couldn't file bugs on them. Just fixed that.
[16:35] <mhall119> popey: awesome thanks! one thing off my todo list for today
[16:35] <popey> ☺
[16:49] <krabador> ok, the developer prevew works right finally on i9100. Then? :D
[16:50] <ogra_> krabador, well, i'm trying to give to forum guys my working wifi setup to integrate ...
[16:51] <ogra_> (would take minutes on IRC ... but in the forum it seems to take a while :P )
[16:51] <ogra_> but yeah, with rolled back mali driver and proper wiif setup there should be a working image soon
[16:54] <krabador> ogra_, i really hope it. i know that normal users are annoying with ever the same questions/requests/stuff, but i really want to leave android on i9100 the soonest than possible
[16:55] <krabador> ogra_, you patched wifi , supporting wep/wpa and hidden ssid?
[16:56] <ogra_> well, i use the latest zip from the xda thread linked at the devices wikipage ... and added a /data/local/userinit.sh to it that loads the wifi module ... just trying to get them to move that line into the proper init.rc
[16:56] <krabador> great, and you experienced some wifi settings?
[16:56] <ogra_> i dont have any hidden SSID networks here ... so i cant tell
[16:56] <krabador> ok
[16:57] <ogra_> but WPA2 works fine with my visible net
[16:57] <janimo> popey, mhall119 I l know it is a wiki so all can edit but is anyone sort of in charge of it and spending time on it? I'd like to suggest making the device wiki have a column to CM's corresponding wikipage when the device is supported by CM as well
[16:57] <janimo> and maybe list all CM supported devices with blank lines where there is no support or WIP for Ubuntu Touch
[16:57] <ogra_> janimo, you mean the per device subpages ?
[16:58] <mhall119> janimo: I'd be okay with that, maybe make the column not CM-specific though
[16:58] <janimo> ogra_, I may have missed that. I mean a one table overview that I saw, which I had to scan for device names and compare to CMs similar large table to see what the correspondence is and whcich CM devices are not yet suported by UT
[16:59] <ogra_> there is a WIP table at the bottom, but the working ports all have a subpage per device each ... with all teeh links etc
[16:59] <ogra_> a link to the CM database is on the portin wikipage
[17:00] <ogra_> *Porting
[17:00] <janimo> so there are a number of devices in CM or otherwise which are not yet supported but are hard to find  - this is for getting an overview of where we stand - someone with a specific device does not care about any other and goes about their porting
[17:00] <ogra_> http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Devices
[17:01] <ogra_> thats linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[17:01] <ogra_> we should probably link that too on the Devices page, not sure
[17:01] <janimo> ogra_, well yes, That DB has all the dozens of CM supported devices. What would be useful is a column in each row of that CM db (or a mirror of it in our wiki) containing its UT status
[17:02] <ogra_> well, feel free ...
[17:02] <janimo> I was asked to pick a device to learn porting on and it is difficult to find one that is in CM (or elsewhere in Android land) but not in UT as the tables need to bge diffed line by line
[17:03] <janimo> ogra_, the 'feel free' part I understand, that is how I started my request, was wondering though if anyone has the task of gardening the wiki and a bug queue where this could be also ... well queued :)
[17:04] <ogra_> well, i know that dholbach changed it from a table to have subpages per device ... not sure if he has a grand master plan beyond that
[17:05] <dholbach> janimo, up until now the folks who ported updated the pages
[17:05] <dholbach> janimo, I don't know of any bug queue
[17:05] <dholbach> but it'd certainly be nice to have some more concrete tracking information
[17:06] <janimo> dholbach, thanks
[17:09] <janimo> rsalveti, is the recovery image different from plain CWM?
[17:11] <ogra_> it has an ubuntu wallpaper :)
[17:12] <ogra_> at least in that respect its different
[17:15] <matzipan1ni> is the ubuntu music app meeting going on?
[17:21] <DanielHolm> matzipan1ni: nope. none showed up. I've been waiting for the hangout invitation
[17:24] <matzipan> DanielHolm: well... we still have to wait for canonical to release their music app, so we can get working
[17:25] <DanielHolm> matzipan: I cant see why we should wait for them to release their app? the thing with this project is to work on an music app together With them. this app will be the app in Ubuntu Touch -hopefylly, and if we actually make it right.
[17:26] <DanielHolm> matzipan: you are free to e-mail me, or use the mail list. But now I have to go. Cheers
[17:28] <matzipan> DanielHolm: because i am guessing they put a lot of work in the design of the application, and it will be a pain to merge whatever we have working into whatever they have working
[17:28] <matzipan> although, on another note... we will have to merge anyway... so it's just a matter of when
[17:37] <rsalveti> janimo: we got one change there to support our autodeploy script
[17:37] <rsalveti> janimo: but you can use CWM if you prefer
[17:37] <ogra_> but you wont get the shiny ubuntu wallpaper !
[17:37] <janimo> rsalveti, I was wondering about the autodeploy bit as I hadn't seen that before. So plain SWM does not have such a feature?
[17:38] <rsalveti> janimo: http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_bootable_recovery.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/phablet-10.1
[17:38] <rsalveti> ogra_: that as well :-)
[17:38] <rsalveti> janimo: it does, but it only supports one zip at a time
[17:38] <rsalveti> we need to flash 2 (android + ubuntu)
[17:39] <ogra_> (it was actually the one thing that told me that *something* had worked, even though the device didnt properly boot after flashing)
[17:39] <rsalveti> haha :-)
[17:40] <ogra_> and indeed i had ignored that i would have called it autodeploy.zip the first time i tried :)
[17:41] <ogra_> *would have to call it
[18:17] <Dan> How do you execute basic ubuntu programs that are in /data/ubuntu/usr/bin ?
[18:18] <Dan> can you do it from the adb shell?
[18:18] <Dan> cause I would like to try and install the daily ppa for the ubuntu core apps
[18:22] <rsalveti> Dan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#Shell
[18:25] <janimo> ogra_, I am looking at the Image building section of the wiki, it suggestst things go into raring in the next few days. Is that still a valid statement with 13.04 happening and freezes in effect?
[18:25] <rsalveti> janimo: well, we're still discussing, but we want to push some stuff already to raring
[18:25] <rsalveti> but we need/want to be on top of raring soon
[18:26] <janimo> rsalveti, for images to build on raring all of it needs to be there though right?
[18:26] <rsalveti> so we can have our CI running as soon as the next cycle opens
[18:26] <rsalveti> janimo: right, but we don't necessarily want to push everything at this moment, due the freeze
[18:27] <rsalveti> I'd say we'll probably end up having a ppa based on raring, with less packages than we have now for quantal
[18:27] <rsalveti> so we can then remove the ppa once the raring +1 is opened for dev
[18:27] <janimo> rsalveti, thanks
[18:27] <ogra_> janimo, well, rsalveti is a slacker, that "will go into raring" was written two weeks ago and we still dont have stable images :P
[18:28] <janimo> ogra_, it was written in a time of great enthusiasm when we thought we were rolling :)
[18:28] <ogra_> heh
[18:28] <janimo> we're so 2004 still :(
[18:28] <rsalveti> ogra_: well, someone had the idea to put vUDS in the middle
[18:28] <ogra_> rsalveti, silly people, tsk
[18:28] <ogra_> :)
[18:28] <rsalveti> and yeah, we thought it'd roll
[18:30]  * ogra_ never thought that rolling thing would fly 
[18:30] <ogra_> but then i at least expected us to not have 13.04 ..
[18:30] <ogra_> and no freezes
[18:30] <rsalveti> yeah
[18:34] <ogra_> rsalveti, do we have documented somewhere that people need to bzr pull manually for the bzr bits in their git repo ?
[18:35] <ogra_> i just saw some guys mention that the browser doesnt start for them, i suspect they build from an outdated tree
[18:36] <rsalveti> not so sure
[18:36] <rsalveti> yeah, it's not working for me either
[18:36] <rsalveti> that's a different bug
[18:36] <ogra_> ah, k
[18:36] <ogra_> funny, i only apt-get update the phabelt side regulary ... still have a working browser
[18:36] <rsalveti> let me flash the latest to make sure it's still happening there
[18:37] <ogra_> though i havent upgraded today
[18:37] <ogra_> we definitely should have a howto for people to keep their repo up to date though
[18:37] <rsalveti> yup
[18:38] <ogra_> if there is actually more involved than regulary calling repo sync
[18:38] <rsalveti> argh, 23k/s
[18:38] <mibofra> hi rsalveti :)
[18:38] <rsalveti> mibofra: hey
[18:39] <rsalveti> not sure it's a problem with cdimage, my router is kind of unstable today
[18:39] <rsalveti> let me reboot it
[18:45] <rsalveti> no fun still :-(
[18:52] <krabador> ogra_, then, later an almost working wifi and 4210 new driver, browser and gmail are gone...
[18:53] <ali1234> gmail is a web app so no surprises there
[18:56] <janimo> rsalveti, multiple device builds should be possible without a make clean between right by reusing the out/common parts?
[18:57] <rsalveti> janimo: you'll only share the host part I believe
[18:57] <rsalveti> yeah, there's something wrong with the browser
[18:57] <rsalveti> I'm trying to download the latest image but my network is slow as hell today
[18:58] <krabador> ogra_, oh, what abount gsm calls on i9100?
[18:58] <krabador> rsalveti, it's a canonical strategy...
[18:58] <krabador> you're network i mean :)
[18:58] <pleasework> does anyone know what filesystem ubuntu touch uses?
[18:59] <krabador> pleasework, fat32
[18:59] <krabador> pleasework, i'm joking
[18:59] <rsalveti> pleasework: ext4
[18:59] <pleasework> ha..ok
[19:04] <ali1234> actually, it uses whatever the phone "normally" uses
[19:05] <rsalveti> true
[19:27] <traxmac> is the browser totally broken on todays build?
[19:29] <rsalveti> yup
[19:29] <Casmo> Yep.
[19:29] <rsalveti> bfiller: if you get a change to look at it ^
[19:29] <rsalveti> I'm still downloading the image
[19:29] <Casmo> Hehe, I'm currently buying a secondary SGSII (With a broken screen xD) so I can use that for developing needs :>
[19:30] <traxmac> do you install a new build every day or use apt-get to update?
[19:30] <Casmo> Install the new build.
[19:30] <traxmac> ok
[19:35] <bl4de> hi guys...how can request merging code for the calendar-app?
[19:37] <rsalveti> hm, browser is working fine, maybe the renaming caused the issue
[19:38] <bl4de> rsalveti, can you help me?
[19:38] <rsalveti> bl4de: you mean how can you propose your code to be merged?
[19:39] <rsalveti> yeah, seems the renaming didn't reach the shell =\
[19:39] <rsalveti> let me fix that
[19:40] <bl4de> rsalveti, I'm new to the ubuntu development cycle, and I want to join to the team...I have added some functionalities to the calendar app, and I want to know if and how can I propose my code to be merged into app code :)
[19:42] <rsalveti> bl4de: right, I believe the calendar-app code lives at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev
[19:42] <rsalveti> bzr branch lp:ubuntu-calendar-app
[19:42] <rsalveti> so, for you to propose changes, you need to start from this branch, commit something locally with bzr (bzr commit -m "commit message") and then propose a merge request
[19:42] <bl4de> rsalveti, yes yes, I have already branched and edited the code, but I want to upload it and propose :)
[19:43] <rsalveti> you can do that easily by pushing your branch to launchpad, like "bzr push lp:~yourusername/+junk/yourbranchname"
[19:44] <rsalveti> if you're part of the team you can also push to lp:~yourusername/ubuntu-calendar-app/branchname
[19:44] <bl4de> Found the problem :)
[19:44] <bl4de> in the wiki, the "+junk" part is missing :)
[19:44] <rsalveti> mhall119: might be able to help you better as well :-)
[19:44] <bl4de> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/DevelopmentGuide
[19:44] <rsalveti> let me check
[19:45] <rsalveti> bl4de: yeah, because it's trying to match the branch with the project
[19:45] <rsalveti> what is the error you're getting when using lp:~<your_launchpad_username>/ubuntu-calendar-app/<unique_branch_name> ?
[19:46] <krabador> please developers... fix the browser, and the gsm calls...that i can install on my i9100, i'm very android annoyed.
[19:46] <rsalveti> I should have the fix for the browser later today
[19:46] <rsalveti> the gsm might be device specific
[19:47] <bl4de> rsalveti, "bzr: ERROR: Unsupported protocol for url "bzr push lp:~alessandrofac93/ubuntu-calendar-app/selectable-days""
[19:47] <mhall119> bl4de: if you're pushing a project branch, use the project name instead of +junk
[19:47] <rsalveti> mhall119: that should have worked, shouldn't?
[19:47] <bfiller> rsalveti: browser probably broken because package name change? maybe new shell and others didn't get released
[19:48] <bl4de> mhall119, but bzr (used from Qt creator) is giving me the error I posted to rsalveti
[19:48] <rsalveti> bfiller: yeah, the rename was done only at the browser itself
[19:48] <rsalveti> bfiller: looking at the shell now
[19:48] <mhall119> bl4de: ah, maybe qtcreator isn't using the same bzr
[19:48] <mhall119> bl4de: try if from the terminal
[19:48] <bl4de> mhall119, yes, now I try from the teminal...
[19:48] <bl4de> :)
[19:48] <bfiller> rsalveti: I approved release MR's for the other related packages - webapps-demo, build config. Was an MR for the shell but I didn't see it
[19:49] <bl4de> yes, from the console it works :)
[19:50] <mhall119> bl4de: ok, so qtcreator must have it's own bzr then, weird
[19:50] <rsalveti> bfiller: seems it was merged, just not released https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/phablet
[19:50] <mhall119> bl4de: you could maybe do it from qtcreator if you replaced 'lp:' with 'bzr+ssh://launchpad.net/'
[19:50] <bfiller> rsalveti: yup, I see that
[19:50] <krabador> rsalveti, great, than tomorrow i've some great news. i would ask you a thing : cm10.1 for now is the driver base for UbuntuTouch, but for exemple , i9100 isn't properly supported, for many reasons. can developers use sources from samsung , that delivered official sources of jb for i9100 ?
[19:50] <bfiller> rsalveti: let me do an MR for release
[19:51] <rsalveti> bfiller: cool, I can approve it
[19:51] <bl4de> mhall119, maybe...anyhow I pushed it correctly :)
[19:51] <rsalveti> bfiller: hm, the mr also did a release
[19:51] <rsalveti> bfiller: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/phablet/revision/451
[19:52] <rsalveti> maybe issue with jenkins
[19:52] <bfiller> rsalveti: didn't make it to ppa
[19:53] <rsalveti> bfiller: yeah, will just push by hand for now
[19:53] <rsalveti> so we can get this fixed
[19:53] <bfiller> rsalveti: ok thanks
[19:56] <rsalveti> 1.60 wasn't released either
[19:56] <rsalveti> let me check jenkins
[19:56] <bl4de> guys, if I want to get last changes from a remote branch to my branch, which command should I give?
[19:58] <mhall119> bzr pull <remote_branch>
[19:58] <mhall119> if it says you've diverged (your branch has changes and the remote one has changes), you'll need to run: bzr merge <remote_branch>
[19:58] <rsalveti> krabador: can, it's just that's more work :-)
[19:59] <krabador> rsalveti, oh, great, i supposed that ubuntu touche would need only cm10.1 bloat
[20:03] <bl4de> Woops >:(
[20:12] <rsalveti> Saviq: who is taking care of the qml-phone-shell package now?
[20:12] <rsalveti> bfiller: ^
[20:12] <bfiller> rsalveti: Saviq and co
[20:13] <rsalveti> cool
[20:13] <rsalveti> latest ci failed at jenkins when running the test cases
[20:13] <rsalveti> 	  1 - tst_QmlTests (SEGFAULT)
[20:13] <rsalveti> and at the ppa due lack of dependencies
[20:13] <rsalveti> ImportError: No module named distutils.sysconfig
[20:13] <rsalveti> CMake Error at tests/autopilot/CMakeLists.txt:6 (install):
[20:13] <bfiller> mzanetti: any ideas? ^^^^
[20:32] <agcalamitaITA> Evening guys. Anyone tried the latest daily? Anything interesting? Is it correct that there isn't a change log/release notes yet? (for dailies)
[20:35] <rsalveti> no changelog yet, in progress
[20:35] <agcalamitaITA> Ok -- Thanks Ricardo!
[20:37] <nOStahl> what is best tablet under 250 that will work with ubuntu touch reasonable
[20:38] <matge> Hey, I get "static bool QDesktopServices::openUrl(const QUrl&): The platform plugin does not support services" on the phablet
[20:38] <matge> which phablet repository does provide that platform plugin, so I can add that functionality?
[20:41] <agcalamitaITA> What does the platform plugin do...? Sorry -- don't know what repo it's in...
[20:42] <nOStahl> any ideas?
[20:43] <matge> seems there is some platform <-> qt interface in form of a plugin
[20:44] <matge> on the desktop, openUrl() works fine, but not on the phone
[20:44] <matge> so there seems to be that plugin missing
[20:45] <agcalamitaITA> Ahhhh -- that makes sense.
[20:55] <matge> ah, that's it: https://launchpad.net/qtubuntu
[20:57] <matge> whosthere
[20:58] <matge> the whatsapp client
[20:59] <agcalamitaITA> Cool! I'm not great with programming -- getting lost in Launchpad :\
[20:59] <agcalamitaITA> However I'd be happy to test
[21:01] <matge> Yes, I'm doing a big relese this week. I'd be happy if you could test afterwards
[21:01] <matge> hm https://launchpad.net/qtubuntu is not the right thing
[21:02] <rsalveti> mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/unity/phablet_adding_python_builddep/+merge/153013
[21:04] <agcalamitaITA> matge: Let me know when it's ready and I'll give it a go. Installing the SDK in a moment to test a few things.
[21:11] <mhall119> popey: do we have tarmac or something auto-landing MPs for core apps?
[21:49] <DaBaang> anybody encounter error like: build/core/base_rules.mk:525: system/core/mkbootimg/Android.mk: Module "unpackbootimg" has useless module tags:
[21:50] <DaBaang> ... while porting to a new device
[21:50] <agcalamitaITA> Which device?
[21:50] <DaBaang> HP Touchpad
[21:50] <agcalamitaITA> and are you using -l or -b?
[21:51] <DaBaang> ?
[21:51] <agcalamitaITA> Are you using phablet-flash?
[21:51] <DaBaang> yes
[21:54] <agcalamitaITA> That's most likely  why it's failing -- as it's not on the supported list you may want to follow these instructions -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting -- or take a look at this thread on XDA devs -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175277
[21:56] <DaBaang> Yes, you are right and I have consulted those links as well. Trying to create a new port here instead of using the pre-installed phablet zip
[21:58] <DaBaang> trying to fix the *.mk scripts
[22:01] <agcalamitaITA> Ahhh right -- Ok. Not tested a device port yet as I'm using a Nexus 4
[22:10] <rsalveti> now qml-phone-shell is finally available at the ppa, fixing the broken facebook/browser/gmail app
[22:19] <mzanetti> rsalveti: thanks!
[22:20] <RobbyF> anyone install daily core apps on touch? I can't find the ppa, I had it the other day but I update the phone daily.
[22:22] <agcalamitaITA> Did you install them from the phone over SSH or using QT Creator?
[22:22] <RobbyF> ubuntu_chroot shell
[22:22] <RobbyF> I had the ppa, never got a chance to execute it
[22:24] <RobbyF> I think i found it, and of course my wife needs my help
[22:24] <RobbyF> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily
[22:27] <matge> agcalamitaITA: If you are on the ubuntu-phone mailinglist, you'll see the announcement there
[22:27] <agcalamitaITA> Thanks! That's pretty useful!
[22:29] <agcalamitaITA> matge: I'm not at the moment. I'm familiar with Ubuntu and *nix but new to t a lot of this stuff. Have you got a link?
[22:30] <matge> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00658.html is the initial announcement
[22:30] <matge> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone you can sign up for the mailinglist
[22:30] <matge> currently, whosthere has some severe bugs, so I'd not use it until my next announcement
[22:31] <agcalamitaITA> Thanks! I'll sign up!
[22:50] <bl4de> hi!
[22:51] <RobbyF> hi
[22:59] <frankencode> hi bl4de
[22:59] <bl4de> hi frankencode :)
[22:59] <frankencode> welcome to the playground
[22:59] <frankencode> ;]
[23:00] <bl4de> thanks! :)
[23:00] <frankencode> i'm learning so much here...
[23:00] <bl4de> i am currently studying the PageStack :)
[23:00] <frankencode> never heard about that before
[23:02] <bl4de> http://design.ubuntu.com/apps/building-blocks/page-stack :)
[23:02] <bl4de> in the API is this http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/qml-ubuntu-components0-pagestack.html#details
[23:03] <frankencode> aha
[23:03] <bl4de> ...but here in Italy  are the 0.02 am, and actually I am too tired for thinking...XD
[23:04] <frankencode> i'm loading sql syntax before going to sleep
[23:04] <frankencode> gives me pleasant dreams
[23:05] <bl4de> ahahhah night frankencode, night to all! :)
[23:05] <frankencode> n8
[23:12] <azathoth_> hey all, I'm just trying to install ubuntu-touch on my nexus 7, and it's been hung up on the Pushing autodeploy.zip, anyone know if this is an issue or does this take a bit
[23:13] <ali1234> it shouldn't take excessively long
[23:14] <azathoth_> hmmm, yeah it's been about 5-7 mins already
[23:14] <azathoth_> I'll give it to the 10 mark than restart the process