[00:13] <bkerensa> Yeah I think he was just trying to point out that it mentions "Extra support for the flavors"
[00:13] <bkerensa> as in more than is already done
[00:13] <bkerensa> I know I donated to the flavors and have no idea what it did :D
[00:14]  * pleia2 nods
[00:14] <bkerensa> but yeah fraud was a bad word
[00:14] <pleia2> the whole idea to donating to a company is weird to me anyway ;)
[00:14] <bkerensa> :D
[00:14] <pleia2> s/to/of
[00:15] <bkerensa> the whole idea of donating to a company that already gets lots of my time for free is weird but I hoped the money would pass through to support things :D
[00:15] <bkerensa> like more Xubuntu stickers!
[00:15] <bkerensa> :D
[00:16] <pleia2> I'd much prefer to give a little money to actually developing it than promoting it
[00:16] <pleia2> one is somewhat useless without the other :)
[07:18] <kryptus> Can anyone tell me how to get rid of a boot glitch.  I'm running Xbuntu 12.10 and it works great but that glitch annoys me.  I'v also encountered it on debian and ubuntu.  Is it that grub2 has a bug or something?
[07:19] <pleia2> what is the "boot glitch"?
[07:23] <kryptus> I could kind of compare it to a glitchy set of black and white lines like a vertical barcode flickering for abot 15 to 20 seconds.
[07:23] <kryptus> *about
[07:24] <pleia2> happen to be a dell? looks like others have had this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/198937/grub-menu-screen-flicker
[07:24] <darthrobot> Title: [grub2 - Grub menu screen flicker - Ask Ubuntu]
[07:24] <pleia2> (I haven't seen it on my systems though)
[07:24] <pleia2> actually, not even my dell
[07:25] <kryptus> No it's a Gateway laptop.
[07:26] <kryptus> I think the link might help...  Thank you!
[07:27] <pleia2> well, it's a different boot loader currently served up by some random person's ppa, so it's not something I'd recommend
[07:29] <kalenjohnson> I think I had that problem on my Gateway, which was using an Nvidia 8800m
[07:29] <kalenjohnson> haven't seen the issue on my newish laptop with a 560m though
[07:30] <kalenjohnson> I've seen it happen in a VM with other distro's though, just tonight with Fuduntu, so I'm thinking it might be sort of random...
[07:31] <kryptus> What if I were to replace grub with lilo?
[07:35] <pleia2> lilo is unmaintained, not sure it would even work
[07:36]  * pleia2 clearly has not appropriately fixed her internal clock for DST :(
[07:36] <pleia2> time to try and sleep
[07:37] <kalenjohnson> me too
[19:20] <bkerensa> pleia2: top of the morning