| === Cheri703_ is now known as Cheri703 | ||
| === Cheri703_ is now known as Cheri703 | ||
| thafreak | OMG, I'm SO tired of freakin compiz... | 14:03 |
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| thafreak | every day I come to work, and my machine is unresponsive for like 15minutes | 14:03 |
| dzho | heh | 14:04 |
| thafreak | while compiz swaps in | 14:04 |
| dzho | same with my laptop at home | 14:04 |
| thafreak | 1.7g resident? seriously | 14:04 |
| dzho | I pick it up and it just . . . sits there | 14:04 |
| thafreak | what make is it? | 14:04 |
| dzho | funny thing is, I pick it up and I'm looking at my *desktop* | 14:04 |
| dzho | HP G42 mumblesomething | 14:04 |
| thafreak | hmmm | 14:04 |
| dzho | bottom-of-the-barrel 14" from a couple of years ago now | 14:05 |
| thafreak | My old desktop at work did something similar | 14:05 |
| dzho | basically, the cheapest 14" I could find off the shelf that had a proc that did virtualization. | 14:05 |
| dzho | eventually, the screen locks, and *then* I can log in | 14:05 |
| thafreak | only the screen saver wouldn't unlock, just left my screen black | 14:05 |
| dzho | and then it's about 6-10 seconds before I can work with it | 14:05 |
| thafreak | but it wouldn't go to IO hell | 14:05 |
| dzho | from a security perspective that the screen doesn't lock right away is horrifying | 14:06 |
| thafreak | yeah....i hear you | 14:06 |
| thafreak | especially when it doesn't lock 100% | 14:06 |
| thafreak | like you can still see some windows for some reason | 14:06 |
| dzho | at least it responds to keyboard, so I can move over to a virtual term and check that the thing hasn't totally lost its mind | 14:06 |
| thafreak | that happens to me alot | 14:06 |
| dzho | or, shut it down, depending | 14:06 |
| dzho | it's funny to me that there's this guy at our LUG that complains about them having dropped non-PAE support. | 14:07 |
| dzho | so his 12 year old thinkpad is not supported out-of-the-box because for some inexplicable reason, even though PAE was already old news by then, IBM put a chip in that didn't support it. | 14:08 |
| thafreak | oh boy... | 14:08 |
| dzho | and I'm thinking that's the least of your worries coming up, pal. | 14:08 |
| dzho | I guess no kernel is worse than bad graphics support, though. | 14:08 |
| thafreak | heh | 14:08 |
| thafreak | dzho: what desktop does this laptop of yours run? | 14:09 |
| paultag | ♫ | 14:09 |
| thafreak | i mean DE | 14:09 |
| thafreak | geez | 14:09 |
| dzho | thafreak: stock 12.04 mostly | 14:09 |
| dzho | so, Unity | 14:09 |
| thafreak | so unity? | 14:09 |
| thafreak | ah...ok | 14:09 |
| thafreak | same here | 14:09 |
| dzho | paultag: haha | 14:09 |
| thafreak | I'm blaming that | 14:09 |
| dzho | yeah | 14:10 |
| thafreak | I just installed kubuntu 12.10 on an old laptop, and frankly, I like it much better | 14:10 |
| dzho | my netbook, which is still going strong, but which is even more underpowered, I'm not even going to try to take to 12.04 | 14:10 |
| thafreak | even gtk apps seem to be rendered correctly now | 14:10 |
| dzho | got an external USB spinner as scratch/backup for taking it over to Debian | 14:10 |
| thafreak | I'm using my POS netbook right now...it's crunchbang | 14:10 |
| thafreak | I WOULD use my work desktop, but it's in IO hell right now | 14:11 |
| thafreak | 75+% IO Wait... | 14:11 |
| thafreak | with compiz using 45% of mem | 14:12 |
| dzho | I have that problem on a 10.04 desktop, because I put aide on it, and aide is launched by default from /etc/cron.daily, so I don't get to pick when it starts chewing up disk IO and cpu calculating md5s | 14:12 |
| dzho | at some point, I'll make it a proper cron job and run it when I'm not usually here, but I haven't figured out where I want to put the cron script | 14:13 |
| thafreak | hmm...well, I got frustrated with this box, so I put collectd on it to graph it's weirdness | 14:13 |
| dzho | plus, you know, screwing around with the package configuration has me a bit sad. | 14:13 |
| * dzho goes to look up collectd | 14:13 | |
| thafreak | rrd graphing tool | 14:13 |
| dzho | oh | 14:13 |
| thafreak | wanna see some graphs of this disk io...see if there's a pattern maybe | 14:14 |
| thafreak | This is nuts...I go to virtual console, and work the cli, and my disk light goes off | 14:15 |
| thafreak | I think, oh, it's done swapping | 14:15 |
| thafreak | I go back to the desktop, and boom, disk light goes solid again... | 14:16 |
| thafreak | gah... | 14:16 |
| thafreak | I put 12.04 "LTS" on here thinking it'd be a "stable" desktop...ha | 14:16 |
| thafreak | I got shit to do, and actual deadlines... :( no time to re-install... | 14:17 |
| thafreak | anyone know if lxde uses compiz? | 14:17 |
| thafreak | I bet xfce does | 14:17 |
| thafreak | Ok, apparently the solution, kill -9 compiz... | 14:20 |
| dzho | it's the only way to be sure | 14:26 |
| dzho | unfortunately, it's hard to do from orbit | 14:26 |
| thafreak | maybe I need to treat it like a windows box, and reboot it frequently? | 14:27 |
| dzho | gotta love that bug #1 | 14:28 |
| thafreak | tasksel install lubuntu-core | 14:29 |
| thafreak | maybe this will help | 14:29 |
| === J21_ is now known as J21 | ||
| thafreak | So, been running lxde since my reboot this morning | 18:01 |
| thafreak | the machine is still not swapping yet... | 18:01 |
| thafreak | so, I'm blaming unity...I guess I'm finally on the anti-unity bandwagon :/ | 18:02 |
| * skellat looks to cue up the Weird Al Yankovic song "Another One Rides The Bus" | 18:03 | |
| * skellat finds it here: http://tinysong.com/11vi6 | 18:06 | |
| skellat | thafreak: Did your machine meet or exceed the minimum recommended specs? | 18:06 |
| thafreak | intel core i5 w/4gb of ram...I hope that's well above min specs! | 18:07 |
| skellat | Yeah | 18:07 |
| skellat | It is | 18:07 |
| skellat | Wow | 18:07 |
| thafreak | Funny thing is, my previous machine was a core2 duo w/4gb of ram, and it ran fine | 18:07 |
| thafreak | my previous box was a system76 machine though, and the new one is a dell | 18:07 |
| skellat | That's why I run Xubuntu and my parents run Lubuntu | 18:07 |
| skellat | I'm usually running hand-me-down hardware | 18:08 |
| thafreak | well, I've got lubuntu on here for now...so I can at least get some work done | 18:08 |
| skellat | Cool | 18:08 |
| thafreak | this is my work machine...it's basically hand me down... | 18:08 |
| thafreak | it's my boss's "refresh" machine... | 18:08 |
| thafreak | she some how talked them into getting her a macbook...and still giving her a refresh machine | 18:09 |
| skellat | That's excellent interpersonal negotiation skills, I suppose | 18:09 |
| === Cheri703_ is now known as Cheri703 | ||
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