[00:00] <Omnifrog> I dunno how committed to minimalism I am though. I still want to get things done that arnt just "screwing with the computer"
[00:00] <wrst> ha ha debian maybe?
[00:00] <cyberanger> gentoo or arch....
[00:01] <wrst> howdy cyberanger
[00:01] <wrst> gentoo, ain't nobody got time for that
[00:02]  * wrst tries to badly rip off a famous youtube video
[00:04] <wrst> this is interesting also: http://www.muktware.com/5370/html5-brings-netflix-samsungs-arm-chromebook
[00:10] <bill_gill> qq..... is samba required in order to share files between windows and linux? I have a small home lan. I have movies i want to share. is samba required or can i just have and nfts partition on the linux box?
[00:14] <wrst> bill_gill: samba is the easiest by far
[00:14] <wrst> but you can read and write to ntfs just fine, but if you are networked samba is the best way to go actaully i guess the only way with windows
[00:15] <bill_gill> ok
[00:16] <wrst> and bill_gill if you are using unity all you have to do is right click, share, then set it up ubuntu takes care of all the set up and installation of packages
[00:18] <wrst> bill_gill: actually just tried that out to make sure, works perfect
[00:18] <bill_gill> that didn't work
[00:18] <bill_gill> well... they all see the share but cannot access the files
[00:18] <wrst> bill_gill: that should do it i just clicked sharing options then clicked share this folder, allow others, guest access i opened it wide open
[00:19] <wrst> did you slect guest access? and also to allow others to create and delete files, that isn't secure by any means but it will get you what you want quick and easy
[00:19] <bill_gill> sounds good... didn't work here
[00:19] <bill_gill> yes
[00:19] <bill_gill> obvious fix right
[00:19] <wrst> did you restart your windows box?
[00:19] <bill_gill> no
[00:19] <bill_gill> is that needed
[00:20] <wrst> it is likely not recognizing the changes i checked it out on my phone
[00:20] <wrst> bill_gill: with windows its always needed
[00:20] <wrst> i'm sure there is some silly way to restart something but easier to restart
[00:20] <bill_gill> just to be sure we are on the same page.... the files are on the ubuntu box
[00:20]  * wrst forgets more about windows every day and is happy about it
[00:20] <wrst> yes bill_gill files on linux machine and doing that made them available as samba shares that was on my phone i have no windows machine to check them with but it should work
[00:21] <wrst> however android is running samba also
[00:21] <wrst> actually windows would be better running samba
[00:21]  * wrst heads out for a bit
[00:21] <Omnifrog> http://markplusplus.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/winreboot.png?w=500
[00:25] <bill_gill> very funny!
[00:25] <bill_gill> so true
[00:33] <wrst> that get you going bill_gill ?
[00:57] <twayneprice> hey wrst when I run virtualbox I get this error:  Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and the appropriate
[00:57] <twayneprice> 	 headers, most likely linux-headers-3.4.0.
[00:57] <twayneprice> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.4.0 doesn't un
[00:57] <twayneprice> Any ideas?
[00:58] <wrst> hmm
[00:58] <Omnifrog> hii twayneprice
[00:58] <twayneprice> hey Omnifrog
[01:00] <Omnifrog> I think you have to specify which package you want
[01:00] <wrst> twayneprice: not at my laptop is that on your chrome book
[01:00] <twayneprice> wrst: yup
[01:00] <Omnifrog> ie.   http://blog.hostonnet.com/how-to-install-linux-kernel-3-4-0-on-ubuntu-12-04-11-10
[01:01] <wrst> is that in the chroot or native boot up?
[01:02] <twayneprice> chroot
[01:04] <wrst> so you are working off the kernel of the chrome book? that could get complicated
[01:07] <twayneprice> When I do a apt-cache it jumps from linux-headers-3.2 to 3.5
[01:08] <twayneprice> Omnifrog: that didn't seem to work either
[01:09] <wrst> yeah twayneprice the Ubuntu repos probably want have headers to match the kernel on the chrome book I suspect you would have to find and compile from source
[01:09] <wrst> Unit193: you around?
[01:24] <twayneprice> there is a newer version of crouton.  I may try to update.
[01:29] <wrst> that might help maybe but have a feeling it may be painful to get it going
[01:29] <wrst> but I'm sure its not impossible
[01:31] <twayneprice> most everything else I've installed runs fine.  I can always just run stuff remotely.
[01:37] <wrst> I suspect that expecting a kernel to match what Ubuntu should be running is the issue not this is all beyond my pea sized brain
[01:41] <Omnifrog> crud
[01:41] <Omnifrog> my optical drive is not being detected
[01:42] <Omnifrog> I suspect the last time I put a new drive in the dc/dvd got bumped to a different port
[01:43] <Juzzy> hey it's my farmer man
[01:43] <Juzzy> :}
[02:28] <Omnifrog> FARMERS ROCK!
[02:48] <Juzzy> I have a red neck
[02:48] <Juzzy> after spending 24 hours in 2 days planting grapes and berries
[03:10] <Omnifrog> fine, I take 2 shows tomorrow
[03:28] <Omnifrog> tomorrow will be fun
[04:50] <Juzzy> heh frog -> pond nice
[08:59] <Unit193> wrst: Am now. :P
[09:46] <Omnifrog> :D
[10:20] <wrst> Unit193: too late we are all asleep
[10:20] <wrst> :)
[10:31] <wrst> oh twayneprice is that an ARM processor in your chrome book?
[12:09] <twayneprice> wrst: No, the samsung has the ARM.  Mine is the Acer C7.
[12:11] <wrst> ahh well that should be a problem, Unit193 you have any ideas I know you are all into kernl stuff?
[12:11] <wrst> and kernel stuff even
[12:13] <wrst> and I meant that shouldn't be a problem... I need to wake up before typing
[12:13] <DJOmnifrog> blerg
[12:15] <twayneprice> wrst: Except I found instructions for the ARM :)   https://launchpad.net/~chromebook-arm/+archive/ppa
[12:16] <wrst> well crud
[12:18] <Unit193> Heh. :P
[12:23] <twayneprice> BTW, I created a xfce chroot and an unity chroot.  I find myself using the xfce one much more.  :)
[12:24] <Unit193> Mainly because Xfce is awesome.
[12:27] <wrst> Unit193: any ideas on twayneprice's virtual box stuff?
[12:27] <Unit193> I haven't seen it. :P
[12:30] <twayneprice> I'm wondering if it is a problem to run virtualbox in a chroot.
[12:31] <wrst> Unit193: scroll up just a bit will keep us from having to re type it all ;)
[12:31] <Unit193> wrst: I wanted a re-type!  ;)
[12:31] <wrst> forget it :P
[12:32] <Unit193> twayneprice: From what source?  This is "virtualbox"?  And quantal?
[12:33] <Unit193> StarTrek "All Our Yesterdays" is rather sad, actually.
[12:33] <twayneprice> I just saw this here:  https://plus.google.com/112449749826562830126/posts/ZS9WaegrZYH
[12:33] <twayneprice> "I was able to run my chromebox from Google IO with ubuntu 12. Then I updated the kernel and was able to get VirtualBox running...Then I was able to install Windows Vista 32bit on a USB sdd....The rest was downhill from there....Lol.... (Virtualized Windows on Chromebox.....heresy..... I know)...﻿"
[12:37] <twayneprice> So at least it seems possible.  What does it mean to "update the kernel"?
[12:38] <Unit193> I'd assume sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, unless he means another source or recompile.  linux-headers-generic may be what you're looking for?
[12:38] <Unit193> This is virtualbox as found in the main repos?
[12:39] <wrst> Unit193: since it is a chroot and he is using the chrome books kernel will stuff out of the repos actually work?
[12:40] <twayneprice> yes, I just did the main repo.  That may be the problem.  :)
[12:40] <Unit193> wrst: Virtualbox?  I do not know.  Could try installing the vbox kernel driver outside of the chroot, buuut.
[12:41] <wrst> twayneprice: i would think the virtualbox package is fine but the kernel driver stuff is going to be the real issue i think
[12:41]  * wrst should let Unit193 talk 
[12:41]  * wrst should be quiet
[12:42] <twayneprice> The nice thing is that if I completely hose it, it just takes about 30 minutes to get back to factory.  I didn't bring it to work today, though, so I can try anything until tonight.  :(
[12:42] <Unit193> wrst: I don't actually know, never tried it like this, and never had a chrome book.
[12:43] <wrst> me either :)
[12:44] <twayneprice> I wonder if updating the kernel was the missing step.
[12:47] <Unit193> Well, I'd think you'd need headers for the kernel that virtualbox will be interacting with, that'd be the chrome kernel.  But you don't have the chrome headers in the Ubuntu repos.  I'm guessing with the vbox driver in ChromeOS as long as it can access them outside of the chroot.
[12:49] <wrst> is a vbox driver available in chrome os?
[12:56] <twayneprice> I'll play with it more tonight but I wonder if doing the dist-upgrade will get the kernel to a version that I can find the linux headers for.
[13:02] <wrst> twayneprice: from within ubuntu i don't think so because that doesn't effect the actual kernel you are using
[13:08] <twayneprice> I wonder exactly what the guy did on the google plus comments to get it working.  He may have had the Samsung too.
[13:13] <twayneprice> wrst: My son is going to Peru for a month and is wanting to take a cheap laptop.  He's getting a chromebook.  :)
[13:18] <wrst> ahh
[13:18] <wrst> peru? business? pleasuer? mission trip? none of our business?
[13:22] <twayneprice> He is visiting a friend from high school that was originally from Peru and moved back there after college.
[13:23] <DJOmnifrog> peruvian obelisks!
[13:27] <wrst> ahh cool twayneprice sounds like an interesting trip
[13:28] <twayneprice> wrst: Yea, he's looking forward to it.  DJOmnifrog Are there famous obelisks in Peru?
[13:29] <DJOmnifrog> there are!
[13:30] <DJOmnifrog> well, I don't know how famous they are
[13:33] <wrst> morning DJOmnifrog
[13:33] <DJOmnifrog> morning wrst `
[14:01] <DJOmnifrog> how nice. the DJ who is supposed to come after me is MIA
[14:44] <cyberanger> DJOmnifrog: so, does that mean your stealing his hour?
[14:44] <DJOmnifrog>  he just showed up a few minutes ago
[14:44] <DJOmnifrog> heh
[14:45] <DJOmnifrog> I wasn't even supposed to be on this morning. I was filling in for someone else :\
[14:54] <wrst> Omnifrog: you are the universal dj?
[14:55] <Omnifrog> I'm the sucker that picked up the slack
[14:57] <Omnifrog> I still have my regular show this evening :\
[15:02] <wrst> Omnifrog: you are one of those people... you know the responsible type ;)
[15:03] <Omnifrog> the grown up in the group, lol
[15:06] <wrst> totally possible
[15:08] <Omnifrog> I have kids as old as some of them
[15:10] <wrst> ouch
[15:10] <wrst> you are dealing with kids literally then
[15:22] <Omnifrog> there are a few 20 somethings on the staff
[15:22] <Omnifrog> my daughter will be 24 soon
[15:23]  * wrst thinks he isn't the oldest person here now
[15:38] <twayneprice> wrst: As long as I'm here, you aren't the oldest.  :)
[15:39] <wrst> good point twayneprice ;)
[15:39] <wrst> there was competition for that second spot however but I think I'm safely in third now
[15:49] <Omnifrog> :D
[22:02] <DJOmnifrog> guh
[23:02] <wrst> DJOmnifrog: how's it going?
[23:02] <wrst> hello chris4585
[23:02] <DJOmnifrog> hi wrst
[23:03] <DJOmnifrog> tired
[23:03] <wrst> you doing your "normal" shift now? :)
[23:04] <DJOmnifrog> yeah, heh
[23:05] <DJOmnifrog> the forest season is going to kick my ass
[23:06] <wrst> sounds like work
[23:10] <chris4585> hey wrst
[23:10] <wrst> how you doing chris4585?
[23:10] <DJOmnifrog> hi chris
[23:11] <chris4585> alright, enjoying my day off
[23:14] <wrst> cool chris4585 days off are golden
[23:20] <chris4585> indeed
[23:20] <chris4585> how are you wrst
[23:20] <chris4585> ?