[04:54] <Squirm> nuvolari: doesn't seem to be doing anything
[04:55] <Squirm> the movements seem to be smoother. but it seems unbalanced maybe. I should actually try and test the cog
[05:25] <Kilos> hi magespawn you the only one here
[05:25] <Kilos> and Squirm 
[05:26] <Kilos> or aint your away thing working
[05:27] <nuvolari> mornings oom Kilos  and Squirm 
[05:27] <Kilos> lo nuvolari daars nou n verassing
[05:45] <Squirm> hello
[05:49] <nuvolari> waarso oom Kilos ?
[05:50] <Kilos> jy is skaars die laaste klomp maande onthou
[05:53] <nuvolari> ooh :P
[05:53] <nuvolari> is ek die verrassing?
[05:53] <Kilos> hehe
[05:53] <Kilos> yip
[05:53] <Kilos> wt
[06:11] <Kilos> hi henkj 
[06:12] <henkj> hi Kilos 
[06:16] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday SmilyBorg_w 
[06:17] <Kilos> hehe she was slow today
[06:18] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[06:29] <Symmetria> hrm, new version of droid out or something?
[07:24] <Kilos> môre inetpro 
[07:25] <inetpro> uh, goeie more Kilos
[07:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all :)
[07:41] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:08] <magespawn> Maaz tell Kilos it looks like i was brought back without knowing it
[09:08] <Maaz> magespawn: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[09:11] <Symmetria> man, I hate BBEEE more than anything in the whole world
[09:13] <Symmetria> it's so damn stupid that as a single person you gotta run around getting stupid (very expensive) certificates 
[10:27] <Squirm> Symmetria: I'm sure you mean BBBEE
[10:42] <Kilos> hmm... no fly today
[10:42] <Kilos> yo plustwo 
[10:42] <Kilos> hi Banlam bakuman charl 
[11:53] <charl> hi Kilos 
[11:53] <charl> how's it going
[11:54] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[12:13] <charl> i'm good thanks
[12:15] <Squirm> nuvolari: so I got it to hover, by adjusting the gain. then I could hardly move the thing. so I adjusted it back a tad. then it decided it wanted to do a forward flip. then I tried again and again and lost the nut that holds the prop on. prop shot about 10m, who know where the nut disappeared
[13:22] <superfly> good afternoon all
[13:23] <Kilos> hiya superfly 
[13:23] <Kilos> where you been
[13:32] <Kilos> meetings i spose
[13:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'ello :)
[14:43] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[14:44] <Kilos> yo Trix[a]r_za 
[14:45] <magespawn> hey Kilos, now i am on my way home
[14:46] <magespawn> lots of away people
[14:48] <Kilos> yeah been dead here today
[14:48] <Kilos> nearly Squirm too when prop took off
[14:48] <Kilos> coulda given him a harecut
[14:48] <Kilos> haircut
[14:49] <Kilos> or shortened him a bit. like with a guillotine
[15:01] <magespawn> later Kilos
[15:01] <Kilos> ok
[16:34] <nuvolari> aloha
[16:34]  * nuvolari smacks Trixar_za and runz
[16:34] <nuvolari> biets
[16:36] <Trixar_za> Oh hai nuvolari
[16:43]  * superfly had a good day pairing with HawkiesZA
[16:55] <magespawn> evening
[16:55] <magespawn> superfly what does that mean? ^
[16:55] <Kilos> evening guys
[16:56] <magespawn> did anyone else read about that cloud computing access for robots?
[17:01] <magespawn> skynet is born
[17:01]  * magespawn goes to find a link
[17:02] <magespawn> actually a have a few links tonight
[17:03] <magespawn> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/watch-tv-shows-on-xbmc-with-these-add-ons/ unrelated to robots
[17:05] <magespawn> here is the robot link http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/5477/20130310/robots-now-access-brain-cloud-potentially-making-cheaper.htm 
[17:09] <Vince-0> surp
[17:13] <magespawn> hey Vince-0 
[17:14] <magespawn> nuvolari: what is this about a new forum?
[17:16] <nuvolari> magespawn: I dunno really, someone launched an ubuntu forum for south africa
[17:18] <nuvolari> not sure if I started off on the wrong foot there :P
[17:18] <magespawn> have just had a look, maybe they think it is a good idea because the other is 'too' busy
[17:19] <nuvolari> magespawn: but we have an ubuntu-za specific forum which is not used 
[17:19] <nuvolari> it would have been better if they could run that if the need is great enough
[17:20] <magespawn> ahh i see
[17:20] <magespawn>  some ppl like the creation to be theirs
[17:20] <nuvolari> yeah :P hence my comment on the IRC part
[17:22] <magespawn> indeed, maybe this person is not aware of the existing community
[17:23] <magespawn> it might be a good idea to introduce ourselves and make an 'official' connection
[17:24] <magespawn> the person who posted it to the list is not the owner of the site
[17:24] <nuvolari> yeah
[17:24] <nuvolari> the website looks pretty nice thugh
[17:25] <nuvolari> but it's as recent as the start of march
[17:25] <magespawn> the copy right is MyBB Group, is that My Broadband?
[17:26] <nuvolari> eh?
[17:26] <nuvolari> nope, PHP BB maybe?
[17:26] <nuvolari> as in the board software
[17:27] <nuvolari> yeah
[17:28] <nuvolari> "MyBB is a discussion board that has been around for a while; it has evolved..."
[17:28] <magespawn> ahh right
[17:29] <nuvolari> What's the correct english version of the afrikaans saying "Koning kraai op sy eie mishoop"?
[17:29] <nuvolari> if anybody knows
[17:30] <magespawn> every dog barks in his own yard
[17:30] <magespawn> perhaps
[17:32] <nuvolari> yeah, that's about it
[17:32] <magespawn> is there anything against somebody setting up another forum?
[17:33] <nuvolari> magespawn: not at all
[17:33] <nuvolari> we are not a governing body I believe
[17:33] <nuvolari> it's just that the energy could be well spent if it went into the official forum
[17:34] <magespawn> so then the best thing to do would be to make a strong connection between the existing  and the new
[17:34] <nuvolari> now it will look stupid if there's the official ubuntu-za forum with little/no activity and some 3rd party ubuntu-related forum being quite active
[17:36] <nuvolari> yeah, if they can take over management of that it will be great, but in the end we will still be divided because most of us prefer the mailing list, and feel that managing a forum and a amiling list with our capacity is not worth it
[17:37] <nuvolari> and if we do connect with them it will be like 'who do you think you are? we can do what we want! Bullies!' 
[17:37] <nuvolari> :P
[17:37] <nuvolari> which is not our intention
[17:38] <magespawn> no indeed not, so it must be handled diplomatically
[17:39] <nuvolari> oi, who's the ubuntu members around here, we needz halp!
[17:40] <magespawn> it could also be a very positive thing
[17:41] <nuvolari> just so by the way... where did they get the ubuntu CD's if not through maiatoday?
[17:41] <nuvolari> http://ubuntulife.co.za/forums/showthread.php?tid=5 "Win Ubuntu Linux CD's!"
[17:42] <magespawn> i saw that, no idea, maybe they made their own
[17:43] <magespawn> as an aside i got quasseldroid working on galaxy pocket
[17:43] <nuvolari> ooh nice
[17:45] <magespawn> tiny screen, but i get lots of add on date with a cellc contract
[17:46] <magespawn> s/date/data
[17:46] <nuvolari> hmm, wasn't there a mitos in here before?
[17:47] <magespawn> mitos?
[17:49] <nuvolari> a user on ubuntulife
[17:49] <magespawn> ahh i see on the list of members
[17:49] <nuvolari> yeah
[17:49] <magespawn>  i see there is a mazal on there too
[17:49] <nuvolari> it's like a total separate community being 14 members already
[17:51] <magespawn> some things grow fast
[18:09] <magespawn> it has a blog style website attached to it too
[18:19] <magespawn> powered by wordpress
[18:21] <Kilos> ohi cocooncrash_ tail and all
[18:22] <Kilos> webs been messing around
[18:22] <cocooncrash> ohi
[18:22] <Kilos> you well?
[18:22] <cocooncrash> Yup, doing fine
[18:22] <Kilos> good
[18:22] <Kilos> keep up the good work
[18:48] <magespawn> nuvolari maybe we should get superfly or inetpro involved in this discussion
[18:53] <Symmetria> holy crap, the roads to grahamstown are horrific
[19:14] <magespawn> i am out of here, night all.
[19:15] <superfly> huh?
[19:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> evening all
[19:34] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[19:34] <Kilos> thank heavens for tab complete
[19:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> it's not *that* hard to type surely? :P
[19:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> i need to start a blog to keep track of all those obscure things i know how to do, but never quite remember exactly
[19:36] <Kilos> lol
[19:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> been playing the "how to i boot from grub rescue prompt?" game for 10 mins :-/
[19:36] <Kilos> so long and all the caps in between
[19:37] <Kilos> ow that a bad one
[19:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'G' was already registered when I got here :D
[19:37] <Kilos> try ctrl+alt+f2
[19:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> i got it sorted, thanks ;)
[19:38] <Kilos> if you get cli thing then apt-get install grub-pc
[19:38] <Kilos> ah
[19:38] <Kilos> how
[19:38] <Kilos> i hate that grub prompt thing
[19:39] <Kilos> i have a cd called supergrub it works well for that
[19:39] <Kilos> actually boots into the os for you then you can reinstall grub
[19:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://dpaste.org/W9uxH/
[19:40] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[19:40] <nuvolari> lo ThatGraemeGuy 
[19:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> i have 2 smallish partitions to hold a root fs, and a fat partition for /home. so time and again when i install on the alt root partition, then decide not to keep it and blow it away, i forget to fix grub before rebooting
[19:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> hi nuvolari 
[19:42] <Kilos> hi nuvolari 
[19:43] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, you just used those commands at the grub prompt?
[19:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes, that gets you back to your normal grub menu, then you can select a bootable entry
[19:44] <Kilos> wow ty
[19:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> then 'sudo update-grub' and 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda'
[19:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> fixed
[19:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> assuming it is actually sda of course
[19:45] <Kilos> wonderful
[19:45] <Kilos> i spend 30 mins everytime
[19:45] <Kilos> sometimes more
[19:46] <Kilos> even done clean installs when i got that prompt
[19:46] <superfly> hey ThatGraemeGuy
[19:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> aloha
[19:48] <Kilos> but where does the msdos6 come in
[19:48] <Kilos> thats old dos
[19:48] <Kilos> i have it on stiffies
[19:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> it's 'msdos' the partition type, not the O/S
[19:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> as opposed to a GPT-style partition
[19:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> (hd0,msdos6) in grub is /dev/sda6
[19:52] <Kilos> ah ty
[19:53] <Kilos> mine are all ext4
[19:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> ext4 is the filesystem
[19:53] <Kilos> most drives been zeroed and ubuntu installed directly
[19:54] <Kilos> oh do we still use dos partitions
[19:54] <Kilos> mbr instead of gpt you mean
[19:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> grub and parted call them 'msdos', but yeah, they're MBR
[19:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> sudo parted /dev/sda print
[19:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> Partition Table: msdos
[19:56] <Kilos> oh my thats disgusting
[19:57] <Kilos> hehe anyway have a good night guys
[19:57] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> night :)