[00:01] <bekks> tsimpson: hi. may I qry you fora short time, regarding ubottu and its database?
[00:01] <Gast4545665> omg lol
[00:01] <Gast> lol
[00:03] <Gast> :wait:
[00:06] <coldpizza72i> \window page_up
[00:07] <MoPac> So lately I've noticed that my 100mb boot partition just isn't sufficient.  Even if I only have one full kernel on there at a time, the space isn't big enough to hold that kernel plus the updates so that I can update.  I end up having to delete stuff just to try to update and pray that there's no crash in the meantime.  The rest of my hd space is a LUKs LVM.  Question: am I screwed?
[00:07] <coldpizza72i> /tmp/guest/home : no such file or directory
[00:08] <coldpizza72i> MoPac: ^
[00:08] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: are you running from inside the VM's guest account, from a live CD/USB, or something else?
[00:09] <coldpizza72i> VM's guest act
[00:10] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: the guest account might not be able to see, and almost certainly wouldn't be able to delete, files on your normal user's home folder
[00:10] <Gast> ÄäÖöÜüß
[00:10] <Gast4545665> ÄäÖöÜüß
[00:11] <coldpizza72i> MoPac: so then what do i do
[00:11] <MoPac> although maybe it's possible within the guest account to switch users?  I'm not sure -- guest isn't usually a sudoer and I'm really not very knowledgable about user management
[00:12] <coldpizza72i> MoPac: if su is what u meant i get setgid: operation not permitted
[00:12] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: I think your best bet is to mount the filesystem from outside, or, when booting ubuntu, to boot to a command line
[00:12] <coldpizza72i> MoPac: how do u boot to cmd line
[00:13] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: maybe there's a safe mode option during boot of the VM?  I'm not familiar with running ubuntu in a VM
[00:13] <MoPac> at login screen, there is also usually a key combination you can use
[00:13] <MoPac> one sec
[00:16] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: from login screen, it might be ctrl-alt-f1 or ctrl-alt-fX, where X is some low number
[00:17] <MoPac> now, that might give you a root shell, and I don't know the deal off the top of my head about whether that root user can easily modify the files in /home/youruser or whether you have to switch or do something more fanc
[00:17] <MoPac> *fancy
[00:18] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: also, I've seen it suggested that pressing Shift when the VM is booting might get you into recovery mode
[00:18] <MoPac> then you can ask it for command prompt /shell or whatever it's called and try to get to your file that way.
[00:20] <nmittal> hi.. the scrolling on my ubuntu has been reversed.. how can i fix that?
[00:20] <MoPac> nmittal: what do you mean by reversed?
[00:20] <nmittal> when i scroll the wheel on mouse the list goes up instead of down
[00:21] <lattera> how would I tell which version of glibc is installed?
[00:21] <nmittal> basically.. opposite of usual
[00:21] <elisa87>  hi do you know the reason I am receiving these errors in my make ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606250/
[00:22] <nmittal> MoPac, anything?
[00:23] <MoPac> nmittal: so I think that "natural scrolling" reverses the direction
[00:23] <Shubuntu> hey guys i'm trying to use curl to proxy download a link and pass it to mercurial to clone, how do i do that?
[00:23] <MoPac> nmittal: If you have Ubuntu Tweak, under miscellaneous, you can toggle it on or off there
[00:23] <nmittal> MoPac, where is that option
[00:23] <nmittal> MoPac, oh ok.. let me see
[00:23] <lattera> nvm, found it
[00:24] <nmittal> MoPac you are spot on.. thanks a lot
[00:24] <MoPac> nmittal: no problem
[00:26] <coldpizza72i> MoPac: the only thing in /home is my account folder
[00:27] <Gast> /go #debian
[00:27] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: right, the .xAuthority file should be right in your main home directory
[00:27] <Gast> /join #debian
[00:27] <MoPac> so, e.g., /home/John/.xAuthority
[00:27] <elisa87> "~/.bashrc" [readonly] 126L, 4477C  (What should I do if my ~/.bashrc is readonly?)
[00:28] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: you might have to do something to view hidden files, since the leading dot marks it as "hidden"
[00:28] <jrib> elisa87: output of « mount »?
[00:28] <mandoguit> Gast:   this irc server (spotchat) has #linuxmint-debian      for #debian I believe you need to log onto the freenode irc server first
[00:29] <coldpizza72i> MoPac: ls -a.. right?
[00:29] <jrib> mandoguit: we're on freenode now though the official #debian channel is on oftc
[00:29] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: could be that.  I'm pretty n00b-ish at doing folder or text document stuff in shell
[00:30] <coldpizza72i> MoPac its still not there though
[00:30] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: can you see other files there that begin with a dot?
[00:30] <mandoguit> jrib:  lol   mea culpa!    I thought I was on spotchat.... sorry folks  :)
[00:31] <coldpizza72i> found it
[00:31] <coldpizza72i> its in !
[00:31] <coldpizza72i> i mean ~
[00:31] <elisa87> jrlib http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606513/
[00:31] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: ah, yeah, sometimes /home/John/something is written at ~/something
[00:31] <MoPac> *written as
[00:32] <coldpizza72i> How do i exit the terminal(what button combination)
[00:32] <coldpizza72i> nevermind i got it
[00:32] <coldpizza72i> MoPac: this did not solve my problem
[00:33] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: you're sure the old .xAuthority file is gone?
[00:33] <coldpizza72i> MoPac: i moved it to .xAuthorityBackup
[00:34] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: try moving it to a subfolder or renaming it something else entirely -- I've seen files like ".xAuthorityc" get auto-generated, so it may still be finding it
[00:35] <lattera> anyone know where I can download the version of glibc that ships with ubuntu 10.04?
[00:35] <coldpizza72i> MoPac: still doesnt work
[00:36] <MoPac> next idea would be for you to read the .xsessionerrors file
[00:36] <MoPac> it's in the same place
[00:36] <coldpizza72i> New question: How can i put a file somewhere that a guest could see it? Can i put it on the guests Desktop?
[00:38] <selena2013> hello should i install virtualbox from , software center or from their website ??????
[00:39] <bekks> selena2013: website. Oracle provides a PPA.
[00:40] <cam`> is there a better theme someone can recommend?
[00:40] <ZeloZelos> selena2013, you should always use the software center 1st, download source 2nd and compiling 3rd.
[00:40] <cam`> the buttons and everything seem really bubbly, if that makes sense
[00:40] <bekks> ZeloZelos: Which isnt true in terms of the PPA of Oracle and their changelog.
[00:41] <ZeloZelos> anything other then useing the software center's provisions are not promised to work
[00:43] <bekks> ZeloZelos: In terms of vbox: anything else than using an official version is not supposed to be working, nor to be supported by vbox/oracle.
[00:43] <bekks> ZeloZelos: So make choices.
[00:45] <ZeloZelos> which choice is supported by this room then?
[00:47] <lattera> did ubuntu not release the source for glibc for lucid? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/glibc
[00:47] <ns-nazri> hallo
[00:47] <ns-nazri> can you help me
[00:47] <ZeloZelos> ask away ;)
[00:48] <ZeloZelos> no need to ask to ask, just lay it out man ;)
[00:48] <ns-nazri> EncFS Password:
[00:48] <ns-nazri> fuse: mountpoint is not empty
[00:48] <ns-nazri> fuse: if you are sure this is safe, use the 'nonempty' mount option
[00:48] <ns-nazri> fuse failed.  Common problems:
[00:48] <ns-nazri>  - fuse kernel module not installed (modprobe fuse)
[00:48] <ns-nazri>  - invalid options -- see usage message
[00:48] <FloodBot1> ns-nazri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:49] <ns-nazri> i won into faster, sorry
[00:50] <ZeloZelos> ns-nazri, what was you attempting to do?
[00:52] <elisa87> I could finally install llvm without error but I don't know how to tell the ubuntu to use the one which is installed in /research/jalal/llvm ??
[00:52] <ns-nazri> mount in encrypted folder is not working
[00:53] <selena2013> ok
[00:57] <nonecant> hey
[00:58] <ZeloZelos> sorry ns-nazri the only thing i know how to do with fuse is encrypt a folder
[01:02] <ns-nazri> zelozelos : how
[01:04] <dr_willis> fuse: mountpoint is not empty - use a differnt mountpoint ns-nazri
[01:05] <tivardian> greetings from snowy england! complete noob with a question about xchat on ubuntu 12.10
[01:07] <KI4RO> tivardian, Welcome.  Ask away
[01:07] <tivardian> i need to know what file directory xchat is saved to in the file system, in order to add some files for an xchat theme
[01:07] <pbwizkid> hello all
[01:08] <tivardian> have searched but is confusing as so many folders are found
[01:09] <Mdnight> tivardian, type whereis xchat
[01:09] <KI4RO> tivardian, Try .xchat2 in your home directory
[01:09] <mandoguit> tivardian:   have you tried    ~/.xchat2
[01:09] <m000gle> Is there any way to fully integrate Pidgin into the Ubuntu Messaging Menu, similar to how Empathy comes by default? ... For example: closing the window closes to the messaging menu, instead of GTK icon or closing the program entirely; having the online/away/offline alter Pidgin's status etc
[01:09] <dr_willis> I imaginme theres an xchat channel also.
[01:10] <tivardian> mandoguit, will try your suggestion
[01:11] <OerHeks> tivardian, open filemanager, there is a ~/.xchat/ folder hidden for themes and logs
[01:11] <zimzum77> what up, how do i know what kernel update i need for my precise system
[01:11] <dr_willis> zimzum77:  normally you just use the latest kernels
[01:11] <tivardian> Oerheks, thanks...will let you know how it goes
[01:12] <zimzum77> i should updte them no??
[01:13] <dr_willis> http://toxin.jottit.com/xchat_themes#01
[01:17] <zimzum77> cool link
[01:18]  * N8Dawg pulls up a chair.
[01:18] <zimzum77> dr_willis, i normally don't have to upgrade my kerenel
[01:18] <dr_willis> sad thing about xchat.. years ago it had a nicer default theme/colors.. and had more features/differnt defaults.. :) its slowly been dumbed down over theyears
[01:18] <dr_willis> zimzum77:  there can be security updates in newer kernels. or fixs to differnt drivers and other things.. do what you want
[01:19] <zimzum77> hmmm.
[01:19] <cbaker> I wrote earlier about trying to install Ubuntu on a HP Thin Client (t5550).  It has a VIA Nano u3500 1 GHz processor, VIA VX900 Media Processor, 1 GB RAM with 128 MB reserved for video, and 512 MB Flash memory.  Twist3d had indicated that he thought 12.04 or 12.10 desktop 32 bit should work.  I tried both without much success.  12.10 booted, had some "longhaul" broken message, then got to...
[01:19] <cbaker> ...desktop, and then "try" "install", choose try, and then something about video in basic mode.  could not get past this.
[01:19] <zimzum77> i saying it's best to stay on top of that
[01:20] <zimzum77> ""
[01:20] <zimzum77> ??
[01:21] <graft> hi, is there a good way to view pptx files aside from LibreOffice?
[01:21] <cbaker> it seems that for some reason the video isn't supported or could not be detected correctly.  but when I choose the different options to debug or troubleshoot just went in loops.  only could look at logs.  this device has 2 DVI ports on it.  I am only using 1 to an HP LCD monitor.
[01:22] <cbaker> Any ideas?
[01:22] <dr_willis> whats the video chipset on that thing?  for a low end system you may wan tto try lubuntu  cbaker .
[01:23] <cbaker> dr_willis I assume it is the VIA VX900 media proc with 128 MB of the RAM reserved for video.
[01:24] <dr_willis> Ive never heard of a  VX900 video card. so its possile its not got much linux support.  Or its some SystemOn a Chip thing
[01:25] <dr_willis> Hmm - heres mention of it - i think...
[01:25] <dr_willis> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=103635
[01:27] <dr_willis> seems they use the 'openchrome' drivers.. and the system works better if you add moar ram.
[01:27]  * N8Dawg is looking for help on fixing a resolution problem with a Dell 2320.
[01:29] <pppZero> #
[01:31] <cbaker> dr_willis i did see in the logs something about "CHROME". in that reference, he was able to get it to run 1024x768 before upgrading.
[01:32] <cbaker> is there any tricks I could try to get stock 12.10 to run dr_willis?  what is Linux Mint anyway?
[01:33] <dr_willis> cbaker:  a ubuntu spin off.. i just googeled for that  vx900 and saw that  as a hit.
[01:34] <dr_willis> the drivers should be in a default ubuntu install. I got drivers for it here on my 13.04 test system
[01:34] <dr_willis> $ locate openchrome
[01:34] <dr_willis> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/openchrome_drv.so
[01:34] <dr_willis> /usr/share/man/man4/openchrome.4.gz
[01:35] <cbaker> is there a way to manually force the resolution to just 1024x768 on the USB boot
[01:35] <dr_willis> from what im reading - that driver is not very developed..
[01:35] <dr_willis> perhaps try the nomodeset option
[01:35] <cbaker> can you tell me how to do that?  sorry, novice
[01:35] <Hemebond> Anyone using onboard optical digital audio with Ubuntu 12.04?
[01:37] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[01:38] <cbaker> dr_willis, so on boot I hit a key of some sort and then can manually run a boot with an option?
[01:40] <pppZero> hah! thanks dr_willis! my NAS machines all do that, ssh worked though, so i've never worried about fixing it
[01:43] <cbaker> dr_willis, the funny thing is the boot up, splash screen and "try" "install" screen all appear in high resolution (1024 or higher).  it appears the nomodeset option disables all that.  that seems to work.  is there a "generic" driver that boot is using that I could use for the live desktop?
[01:43] <usermod7> _whois usermod7
[01:44]  * N8Dawg is new here and looking for help.
[01:44] <pepee> does someone knows about an app in which to write random notes?
[01:44] <restart> wat up
[01:44] <redrived> Hi guys, can please point to me a URL on discussing about suspend/sleep/hibernate issue and resolution. I am currently testing 12.10.
[01:45] <N8Dawg> I've got a Dell Inspiron 2320.  I can not get 16x9 mode to work. The graphics are stuck at 1024x768 and skewed.
[01:47] <KI4RO> redrived, Search on Google there are a lot of sites that come up
[01:48] <redrived> KI4RO: yes I am still searching for it. :) If anyone has experience about it please share to me any link .Thank you.
[01:52]  * N8Dawg starts a pot of tea.
[01:54]  * miracast says no to chinese tea
[01:56] <krabador> dr_willis, do you know if for integrated intel graphic on 845 chipset, packages on ubuntu repositories are at the best performance?
[01:56] <greybott> pepee: Cinta Notes
[01:57] <greybott> pepee: But that's for Win. There were sth somilar for Linux..  Tomboy
[01:57] <xenofiler> Hi all. Anybody interested in helping me with a lock issue when trying to install a program?
[01:58] <pepee> thanks greybott
[01:58] <dr_willis> pepee: theres an evernote client out for ubuntu now.
[01:58] <dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/use-evernote-in-ubuntu-with-everpad
[01:58] <pepee> dr_willis, cloud service?
[02:00] <xenofiler> I would like to ask if anybody knows how to get arround this issue: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:00] <dr_willis> !fixapt
[02:00] <dr_willis> make sure no other package manager tools are running xenofiler
[02:00] <xenofiler> unfortunately this is locking it synaptic 1903 root   14wW  REG   8,19        0 5516400 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:00]  * N8Dawg offers Miracast a soda.
[02:00] <xenofiler> ive already killed it once but once i run the install it just locks right back up
[02:00] <dr_willis> see the !fixapt commands
[02:01] <xenofiler> !fixapt
[02:01] <xenofiler> ill try that ubottu
[02:02] <xenofiler> well that worked to get past the first part
[02:02] <xenofiler> Thank you Ubottu.
[02:02] <greybott> I found funny that some people think, that the bot is real person
[02:02] <greybott> xD
[02:04] <N8Dawg> hehe.
[02:04] <OerHeks> !cookie | ubottu
[02:05] <xenofiler> thank you guys, you were awesome. ill keep a link to pop in here.
[02:05] <OerHeks> anytime xenofiler
[02:06] <Curs0r> Hello all. I'm having trouble getting cairo happening with php. I know I have libcairo2-dev installed, I put it in dynamic extensions in php.ini,php keeps throwing PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/cairo.so'
[02:06] <Curs0r> It's quite right, it's not in there
[02:08]  * N8Dawg has to depart.
[02:08] <N8Dawg> I'll check back later.  :-)
[02:10] <krabador> how can i look what video driver is installed on the system?
[02:12] <packetfrog> krabador,  lshw -c video
[02:12] <packetfrog> run as sudo
[02:13] <OerHeks> Curs0r, so you need cairo.so or change cairo.ini ? see 1st post http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1471531.html
[02:13] <Curs0r> Checking that out thanks OerHeks
[02:14] <krabador> packetfrog, thanx
[02:15] <mandoguit> krabador:   might want to try   http://code.google.com/p/inxi/      very nice utility/script
[02:16] <krabador> mandoguit, yes
[02:16] <krabador> mandoguit, seems great
[02:17] <matrix> hello there
[02:19] <Curs0r> OerHeks, awesome, thanks man
[02:19] <OerHeks> Curs0r, yw
[02:21] <greybott> Have anyone notices that Chrome is faster on Ubuntu than on other distros? .. (I see you Google, what you did there...)
[02:22] <greybott> s/notices/noticed
[02:22] <widi> is there such thing? chromium is fast on manjaro also
[02:23] <Dharber> Ubuntu 12.10 user and Chrome  cannot/will not play back  Google Play Video
[02:23] <greybott> Dharber: :O
[02:23] <subcool> lil help please- im following a guide that says to edit xorg.conf - but.. i dont have one. lol - Im gonna guess its because im running kde and gnome..
[02:23] <subcool> SO what do i offer.
[02:24] <dr_willis> xorg.conf dosenthave much to do with kde or gnome...
[02:24] <greybott> subcool: xorg is X Desktop, Gnome or KDE runs of top of xorg
[02:24] <dr_willis> X auto configures for the most part these days. people rarely need an xorg.conf
[02:24] <OerHeks> subcool xorg.conf is no longer used standard, but you can still make one to put settings in
[02:25] <subcool> Ok.. let- .. hahah
[02:25] <subcool> http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=154888  -- it says to edit it..
[02:25] <subcool> so what do i edit?
[02:25] <dr_willis> make the file...
[02:25] <greybott> subcool: Create new file
[02:25] <dr_willis> we dont really know what you are doing..
[02:25] <subcool> check the link
[02:26] <subcool> change the Disable for Composite to Enable like this:
[02:26] <subcool> Option "Composite" "Enable"\
[02:26] <greybott> vim for begginers ... blasphemy
[02:26] <subcool> i know vim
[02:26] <greybott> Good for you xD
[02:26] <dr_willis> compiz has a setting for turning composit on/off i belive...
[02:26] <subcool> yea- **twirls finger**
[02:27] <dr_willis> and it should be enabled by default.
[02:28] <SolarisBoy> can you only run desktop effects with nvidia cards?
[02:28] <dr_willis> SolarisBoy:  they can work with other cards
[02:29] <subcool> well- thank then.
[02:29] <Curs0r> OerHeks, despite that php -m now shows cairo loaded, my php file still throws Fatal error: Class 'CairoImageSurface'... any ideas?
[02:29] <SolarisBoy> dr_willis: thanks
[02:29] <Curs0r> It occurs to me I did not restart aapache, that may be my fault lol
[02:30] <OerHeks> long time i played with cairo
[02:30] <Curs0r> OerHeks, that was it, disregard hehe, now I gotta figure out how to make pango happy
[02:32] <apps> hi
[02:33] <dr_willis> Hello.
[02:35] <krabador> a friend of mine have installed something that now wants to updates 2 packages called "unsecure"
[02:35] <krabador> how can i watch what package needs this last package, to both uninstall
[02:35] <whdi> what does it mean?
[02:36] <dr_willis> installed what exactly? and wanting what? i dont think theres an 'unsecure' package..  but if they are comming from a source with no gpg key installed.. they could be considered from an unsecure source.
[02:37] <whdi> such as PPA?
[02:37] <krabador> yes
[02:38] <whdi> i don't install ppa packages at all
[02:38] <Trinsta> hi can someone help me with my problem?
[02:38] <dr_willis> and the problem is?
[02:38] <xzased> anyone know how to set permanent static routes? I have modified the /etc/network/interfaces and have added at the bottom of my eth1 config "up route add default gw my_ip" and restarted the network, even rebooted, but the default is still the eth0 gateway
[02:39] <krabador> ok, how can i look from terminal, what package needs another one that i can't update because "unsecure"
[02:39] <krabador> ?
[02:39] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[02:39] <dr_willis> the apt-get tools show whats going to get installed normally
[02:39] <Trinsta> I have ubuntu 12.10 installed. My wireless connection works fine but randomly drops sometimes
[02:40] <Trinsta> the connection to my router is still established but i dont seem to get any internet
[02:40] <holstein> krabador: you can paste the output of apt-get update in a pastebin.. that might help pinpoint.. could be a bad PPA
[02:40] <carrera> has anyone used the computer-janitor-gtk?
[02:40] <Trinsta> my windows does not have the same problem while the problem occurs on the ubuntu
[02:40] <krabador> holstein, ok
[02:40] <dr_willis> carrera:  that tool has been phased out of newer releases.. it could be a bit dangerous and clean out to much stuff.. use it with caution
[02:40] <holstein> Trinsta: you can try a different driver if there is one available.
[02:40] <Trinsta> a simple restart of the connection solves it
[02:41] <carrera> thanks dr_willis !  :)
[02:41] <carrera> I installed computer-janitor-gtk but good thing I asked before I ran it
[02:42] <dr_willis> running it is ok.. use it with care. and confirm what its removeing befor you let it do so
[02:42] <Trinsta> dr_willis: i should say it happens quite frequently around every 3-5 minutes
[02:42] <carrera> dr_willis, oh, okay!
[02:42] <KI4RO> carrera, I use the janitor in Ubuntu Tweaks and it seems to do the job
[02:42] <dr_willis> Trinsta:  id check askubuntu.com for your exact chipset. could be a bug in the drivers
[02:43] <carrera> KI4RO, I just installed gnome-tweak-tool package and that's how I came to know of the computer janitor
[02:43] <phincy> hi
[02:43] <Printer> Hi, can anyone tell me the difference between CUPs and TurboPrint? I mean if my printer supports CUPs do I really need the TurboPrint?
[02:44] <dr_willis> Printer:  i doubt if you need turboprint
[02:44] <dr_willis> i thought it was comercial drivers for some printers..
[02:44] <carrera> KI4RO, what's the Ubuntu Tweaks?
[02:44] <Printer> oh
[02:45] <Curs0r> OerHeks, got pango working in no time building off the info you gave me. Thanks a ton
[02:45] <Printer> dr_willis: ok thanks.
[02:45] <KI4RO> carrera, Package available in the software center...lets you make tweaks too numerrous to list
[02:47] <Loverboy> quien habla espanol por aqui
[02:49] <Loverboy> quien habla espanol por aqui
[02:49] <Loverboy> q me ayude con este chat q desconosco
[02:49] <holstein> !es | Loverboy
[02:49] <maxped> does anyone use lynx browser? do you know what the blue bar near the bottom of the page is called?
[02:50] <linda666> hi... i have installed xserver-org-input-multitouch but my multitouch monitor which is connected to my laptop still is unable to function... what should i do?
[02:50] <holstein> !multitouch
[02:51] <holstein> linda666: doesnt work at all?
[02:51] <Loverboy> gracias
[02:51] <linda666> holstein, it works as a normal monitor. touh function doesnt work
[02:52] <Loverboy> some body knows how to save any conversation here
[02:52] <holstein> linda666: how does it connect? vga and usb?
[02:53] <holstein> Loverboy: copy/paste to the editor of your choice
[02:53] <linda666> yes, i couldnt connect using hdmi.. so its vga and usb
[02:53] <dr_willis> thats weird that hdmi dident work.. or it does usb OVER hdmi?
[02:53] <holstein> Loverboy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[02:54] <Loverboy> thank
[02:54] <linda666> not that it didnt work... i couldnt connect because the cable was not hdmi
[02:55] <Trinsta> dr_willis: its a problem with the carl9170
[02:55] <Trinsta> any tips on how to fix it? or replace carl9170 with something else?
[02:55] <linda666> the multitouch monitor model is HP Compaq L2206tm
[02:55] <Trinsta> seems that driver is buggy and bombs out the internet
[02:56] <dr_willis> If theres no alternatives.. theres no alternatives...
[02:56] <holstein> Trinsta: i would try a different driver if one is available
[03:07] <Trinsta> dr_willis: looks like you were right
[03:08] <Trinsta> its a known bug for my specific Wireless USB
[03:08] <Trinsta> DWA-160, its manageable under 12.4 but even worse on 12.10 which is what im running =[
[03:08] <Trinsta> looks like ill have to go pick up a new wireless connector
[03:09] <philwong> hi... if you install ubuntu and use it until a brand new version of ubuntu is released... do you have to backup your data and delete everything and reinstall the new ubuntu?
[03:15] <Bktt> Can anyone suggest me good hacking or technology channels?
[03:16] <pizzadude> hello
[03:16] <GrnEyedDvl> hello everyone
[03:16] <pizzadude> Bktt: could you be more descriptive? and are you talking about youtube?
[03:16] <GrnEyedDvl> am looking for some help with lighttpd
[03:17] <Bktt> Pizzadude: no i'm sorry. Im talking about irc channels
[03:17] <pizzadude> Bktt: lol ok
[03:18] <chanthu> hi
[03:19] <cjfs> Bktt, #steamlug is great for talking about hacker evolution duality and DEFCON
[03:20] <Bktt> cjfs: thank you!
[03:20] <Trinsta> cjfs: is that for hacking steam games?
[03:21] <cjfs> Trinsta, ;-P
[03:22] <pizzadude> exit
[03:28] <krabador> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intel-linux-graphics-installer , lightyears away from nvidia and ati installers
[03:29] <dr_willis> hmm.. the intel drivers are normally included..
[03:29] <raj> I forgot my root password!
[03:29] <raj> can I check if I even ever set one?
[03:29] <dr_willis> raj:  you mean your users sudo password?
[03:29] <raj> no, i know the sudo password
[03:29] <dr_willis> theres no root password by default
[03:29] <raj> oh ok
[03:29] <raj> so what if I wanted to move around as root?
[03:29] <raj> su root
[03:29] <raj> ?
[03:29] <dr_willis> use  sudo
[03:29] <dr_willis> dont use su
[03:30] <sbaugh> Hey, how can I get bluetooth to run on startup, i.e. have a bluetooth keyboard be usable on lightdm.
[03:30] <raj> but I'm getting permission denied when trying to enter a directory
[03:30] <dr_willis> !sudo
[03:31] <dr_willis> what are you trying to do exactly? use sudo -i for a root shell
[03:32] <raj> aahh perfect!
[03:33] <raj> so is there any way to see a directory listing while a regular user?
[03:33] <raj> with sudo privileges
[03:33] <dr_willis> sudo ls    perhaps.. ;)
[03:33] <philwong> if you install ubuntu and use it until a brand new version of ubuntu is released... do you have to backup your data and delete everything and reinstall the new ubuntu??
[03:33] <raj> dr_willis, doesn't work
[03:33] <raj> i tried =T
[03:33] <dr_willis> details are better then saying 'dosent work'
[03:34] <dr_willis> what are you doing exactly?
[03:34] <raj> there's no output from `raj@raj-ubuntu:/mnt/WinRaj$ sudo ls
[03:34] <raj> `
[03:34] <krabador> dr_willis, yes, but their installer are really great
[03:34] <sbaugh> philwong: No, you can update from version to version
[03:35] <dr_willis> raj try sudo ls /mnt/WinRaj/
[03:35] <dr_willis> krabador:  dident even know they had one. ;)
[03:35] <raj> dr_willis, nope
[03:36] <raj> same thing, no output after asking me for my pw
[03:36] <krabador> dr_willis, :)
[03:36] <dr_willis> sounds like the directory is empty..
[03:36] <raj> dr_willis, it's not
[03:36] <raj> I can see everything with root
[03:36] <raj> sudo -i
[03:36] <philwong> what if I modified the Xserver which is responsible on the functioning of teh caps lock feature... will the upgrade overwright everything which I will then have to re-modify the xserver?
[03:37] <sbaugh> philwong: Depends on how you modify it. What are you planning to do?
[03:37] <dr_willis> raj:  cant say ive ever noticed the issue.  could be how its mounted.
[03:38] <Hemebond> Can someone remind me on how to fix pulseaudio|alsa master/pcm issue where the master volume doesn't actually scale the volume?
[03:38] <philwong> Modify the functionality of the caps lock
[03:38] <raj> dr_willis, it's mounted via vbox
[03:38] <raj> if that matters
[03:38] <philwong> if I have already doen it in my existing distro installation... will upgrading revert it?
[03:39] <dr_willis> philwong:  how did you modify it?
[03:39] <philwong> actually I did not but I might have someone who would
[03:39] <sbaugh> philwong: No, if you are changing the caps lock key to trigger a different key with xmodmap, upgrading should not revert it. If you are doing something more advanced, it might.
[03:39] <philwong> its due to this problem
[03:40] <philwong> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/plz-fix-the-caps-lock-response-time-glitch-in-linux-distros-881317/page3.html
[03:40] <philwong> unless this problem is fixed in the new one.. I might not have to do any modification
[03:43] <sbaugh> philwong: That change would not be carried over between xserver versions, no.
[03:44] <molensis> where can I look at the default applications in running media in ubuntu
[03:44] <philwong> sbaugh: so it would be overwritten right?
[03:45] <philwong> and I would have to redo it
[03:45] <sbaugh> philwong: Yes
[03:45] <philwong> hmm
[03:45] <SecretFireMobile> How do i make it so that streamripper doesnt skip the first audio track?
[03:48] <meLon> I've *still* got a secondary x screen trapping my mouse/cursor ;_; http://askubuntu.com/questions/261574/cursor-trapped-on-secondary-x-screen
[03:50] <sbaugh> How can I get my bluetooth keyboard to not unpair on restart?
[03:51] <Hemebond> So... do I need to reinstall again?
[03:51] <Hemebond> Can't reset alsa to a working state?
[03:52] <dr_willis> what did you do to it?
[03:53] <Hemebond> Not sure.
[03:53] <Hemebond> Been trying to find out why I don't have digital audio.
[03:54] <Hemebond> I added one line to modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[03:54] <Hemebond> Removing that line and rebooting didn't help.
[03:54] <rico129> Hey guys
[03:54] <dr_willis> Using hdmi? or what exactly Hemebond ?
[03:55] <Hemebond> dr_willis: Using optical.
[03:55] <rico129> Could someone help me out a little?
[03:55] <dr_willis> might need to mess with the  pavucontrol or pavumixer app.
[03:55] <dr_willis> pavucontrol
[03:55] <Hemebond> HDMI via my video card seems to work. But I don't appear to have a digital audio device for my onboard audio; only analog.
[03:56] <dr_willis> Hmm.  my HDMI sound comes from my video i belive.
[03:57] <Hemebond> I only have HDMI/DisplayPort 2
[03:57] <Hemebond> Which is my video card.
[03:57] <ethana3> My memtest is failing constantly but my system only kernel panics when I have my corrupted external drive hooked up :p i've gotten false positives in memtest before... is it completely broken in 12.04?
[04:01] <repus> i am in need of help with groups and compiling
[04:01] <Loverboy> hi, some body could telme how to send a file in this chat please
[04:02] <dr_willis> most irc clients support the dcc sending methods..
[04:02] <dr_willis> but its most likely easier to just use a file shareing site
[04:02] <Loverboy> ok, what site please
[04:02] <repus> i am using the 'make' command. everyone is in the same group. when one user compiles something, it compiles fine. the next user attempts to issue 'make clean' and it returns errors about not being able to delete files.
[04:02] <Hemebond> argh
[04:03] <Hemebond> Had to change alsa-sink to PCM.
[04:03] <repus> rm: cannot remove
[04:03] <pineneedlespinea> how do i check an ntfs file system in ubuntu?
[04:03] <Hemebond> Yuck.
[04:04] <raj> how can I get a list of all possible groups on my system, not just the ones for a particular user?
[04:04] <Hemebond> LOL. Far out. Now I'm getting distorted/slowed sound.
[04:04] <_cronus_> pineneedlespinea, you can't really ... there is ntfsfix but it doen't work that well
[04:04] <jrib> raj: getent groups
[04:04] <Jmaster> where can i open hosting bussiness?
[04:04] <jrib> !ot | Jmaster
[04:05] <raj> jrib, getent?
[04:05] <jrib> raj: sorry.  I mean: getent group
[04:05] <raj> ah ok
[04:05] <raj> what's getent stand for?
[04:05] <jrib> raj: get entries
[04:05] <pineneedlespinea> ah
[04:05] <raj> cool
[04:05] <raj> thanks
[04:05] <pineneedlespinea> what does "not work well" mean?
[04:06] <_cronus_> pineneedlespinea, it doesn't fix anything but trivial problems
[04:06] <jrib> repus: well by default files won't have group write permissions so that's not surprising
[04:06] <rico129> so i downloaded teamspeak and ran the whole "chmod +x file.run" and "./file.run" but how exactly do I install it so that it appears as an icon in the gnome app launcher. I feel running it from my download folder isn't exactly /organized/...
[04:07] <pineneedlespinea> well windows is restarting while starting up, and the hard drive goes BINGCH cliCK* but ubuntu works fine =c
[04:07] <dr_willis> !teamspeak
[04:07] <rico129> thanks ubottu
[04:07] <dr_willis> There should be a teamspeak in the repos/ppa
[04:08] <rico129> dr_willis: teamspeak just ran an update, i hope mumble will let me connect to my friends server and not bother with "incorrect client version" errors. Im checking it out right now.
[04:09] <_cronus_> pineneedlespinea, you could try ntfsfix. it will probably trigger windows chkdisk not next reboot to windows.
[04:09] <_cronus_> *on
[04:09] <pineneedlespinea> right thats what i was thinking about
[04:09] <pineneedlespinea> thank you
[04:09] <Systemerror> any body how use mac os
[04:09] <dr_willis> hds making funny noises... better get backups done..
[04:09] <repus> jrib, i have g+s on the parent folder prior to adding any files to the folder
[04:09] <jrib> repus: so?
[04:10] <diego> help i reboot now launcher and upper bar are gone
[04:10] <diego> need to get them back help
[04:10] <_cronus_> pineneedlespinea, also what dr_willis said...
[04:10] <repus> jrib, do you understand what that does?
[04:10] <jrib> repus: yes
[04:10] <repus> jrib, and how it relates to my issue?
[04:10] <jrib> repus: yes
[04:10] <rico129> dr_willis:  your hard drive is making funny noises?
[04:10] <diego> help please launcher and bar gone
[04:10] <diego> how to get back
[04:11] <repus> jrib, do you have a suggestion to fix it?
[04:11] <jrib> repus: fix what?  What do you want to accomplish?
[04:11] <repus> jrib, i need to be able to issue the 'make clean' command prior to compiling. regardless of who compiled last time
[04:11] <dr_willis> pineneedlespinea:  said his was making weird noises
[04:11] <rico129> oh!
[04:12] <jrib> rico129: why?
[04:12] <jrib> repus: why?
[04:12] <jrib> rico129: this seems like a strange request, thus why I'm trying to figure out exactly what you are doing
[04:12] <repus> jrib, because any user in the group must be able to do this. as it's a group and that's what people in groups do.
[04:12] <jrib> ugh
[04:12] <Hemebond> Volume control back to semi-normal. Still no digital output.
[04:13] <rico129> jrib: regarding the teamspeak issue or mumble?
[04:13] <jrib> rico129: neither, I mistabbed; sorry
[04:13] <rico129> jrib: hehe k
[04:13] <Sir_Leto> I cannot get get vnc to work for the life of me.
[04:13] <Sir_Leto> http://pastebin.com/KmezrVc4 the output
[04:13] <Sir_Leto> of vncserver
[04:14] <pineneedlespinea> not worried about back ups just need to have things work...and OS config takes about 4 hours each fresh install so...hmm if this doesn't work i'll try a safe mode restore =/ but a proper check may remove or mess up viri if any...
[04:14] <diego> helloooo
[04:14] <diego> i have to re install unity
[04:14] <dr_willis> If the Hd is making wonky noises.. i would expect it to die in the near future
[04:14] <diego> the launcher and taskbar are gone
[04:14] <dr_willis> diego:  most likely you dont.. You need to get the video card drivers working right
[04:14] <pineneedlespinea> it's brand new and ubuntu works fine xD
[04:15] <dr_willis> pineneedlespinea:  you said your HD was makin weird noises or not?
[04:15] <pineneedlespinea> when windows tries to start up yes
[04:15] <jrib> rico129: still sounds like a strange request. I'd encourage you to give more details about why this is needed.  In any case, your issue is as I stated originally, your files do not have group write permissions.  If you want the group to be able to modify/delete them, then you need to ensure the files have group write permissions (actually to delete them, you just need parent directories to have group write
[04:15] <jrib> permissions (and belong to the right group of course)).  You can do this by changing umask (NOT on a per-directory basis) or ACLs.  Again, I'd encourage you to explain why this is necessary at all.  Why don't the users just compile in their own homes?
[04:15] <diego> how on earth i do that
[04:15] <dr_willis> if the HD dies.. then both os's will die most likely ;)
[04:16] <pineneedlespinea> precisely
[04:16] <pineneedlespinea> must have had a power outage with windows open is what i'm thinking
[04:16] <jrib> rico129: again, sorry.  That was for repus
[04:16] <rico129> no worries jrib
[04:16] <dr_willis> diego:  i see people have similer proglems with unity/compiz not starting correctly. normally its due to the video card drivers neeidng reinstalled.
[04:17] <diego> hold on i think i got it back
[04:17] <repus> jrib, it's a group project. and it saves space to have all users in the same group
[04:17] <dr_willis> pineneedlespinea:  there are windows rescue/repair cds you can get seen them mentioned at the lifehacker site. also the #windows channel may know
[04:17] <pineneedlespinea> some day i'll get my nvidia 52 and 5500 paired and working right xD
[04:17] <pineneedlespinea> ah right cross-support hehe
[04:18] <dr_willis> you dont normally want to try to repair windows fs from within linux
[04:18] <pineneedlespinea> =/ crap
[04:18] <repus> jrib, i have all permissions set correctly at this point. the files in question are being created during compile. how would i set up umask to accomplish this?
[04:18] <jrib> repus: default umask is 022
[04:19] <repus> jrib, yes
[04:19] <jrib> repus: so if you want files that are created to be group-writable, you need to change that
[04:19] <repus> jrib, it was my understanding that with group access enabled, it dynamically changed the umask from default of 022 to 002
[04:20] <rico129> be right back
[04:20] <Hemebond> My HDMI digital audio is only stereo.
[04:20] <jrib> repus: what does "group access enabled" mean?
[04:21] <jrib> repus: what are your permissions on the parent directory, anyway?
[04:21] <repus> jrib, group rws
[04:21] <zizoo> Hey guys, I'm in GNOME Classic on Precise, trying to rebind workspace switching to use alt+win+arrows instead of ctrl+alt+arrows. I use the Keyboard app, and go in and fix 'em up, but I find the bindings undone when I log in next time. All other rebindings (terminal to alt+win+'t', etc.) stay how I set them. Why not workspace switching?
[04:21] <repus> jrib, i'm going to private message you
[04:21] <jrib> repus: ls -ld output, not paraphrasing please
[04:21] <jrib> repus: please stay in channel
[04:21] <repus> # If USERGROUPS_ENAB is set to "yes", that will modify this UMASK default value
[04:21] <repus> # for private user groups, i. e. the uid is the same as gid, and username is
[04:21] <repus> # the same as the primary group name: for these, the user permissions will be
[04:21] <repus> # used as group permissions, e. g. 022 will become 002.
[04:21] <repus> #
[04:21] <FloodBot1> repus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:22] <repus> figured i'd get kicked for that...
[04:22] <jrib> repus: use a pastebin in the future
[04:22] <repus> drwxrwsr-x
[04:22] <jrib> repus: ls -ld output....
[04:22] <shawn> hey
[04:22] <repus> jrib, drwxrwsr-x that is the output of ls -ld
[04:23] <pineneedlespinea> so why are my old nvidia lumped into "common" but do not load or be seen...lspci lists them...i have drivers from nvidia??
[04:23] <jrib> repus: it's not :/
[04:24] <repus> jrib, i don't understand why it's not what you are asking for...
[04:24] <jrib> repus: type "ls -ld directory_in_question" and paste *everything* you see
[04:24] <repus> drwxrwsr-x 6 kbizzle pa_man 4096 Mar 11 23:41
[04:24] <jrib> repus: thank you
[04:25] <jrib> repus: anyway, you can look at permissions for a file that you believe you should be able to delete (when you run make clean) but aren't able to
[04:25] <repus> jrib, i understand this. the issue is making the files have the correct permissions so they can be removed during make clean.
[04:25] <repus> jrib, does it make sense what i am trying to explain?
[04:26] <pineneedlespinea> Are there any drivers for old nvidia cards i can install easily for 12.04/unity?
[04:26] <jrib> repus: I understand what you are trying to do yes.  I've explained what you need to do, but if it's not clear then I need the information I'm asking you about
[04:26] <repus> jrib, are you asking me to post the permissions of the files that i'm not able to delete?
[04:26] <leptone> is there a way to pastebin a pdf?
[04:27] <jrib> repus: yes
[04:27] <repus> jrib, didn't look like a question to me :/
[04:27] <repus> jrib, one sec
[04:27] <repus> jrib, drwxr-s--- 3 sniper pa_man 4096 Mar 11 23:44 ex
[04:27] <jrib> repus: well yes, I was saying *you* should look at them and determine what you need to change.  But if you don't want to do that, you can share them here and we can look at them together
[04:27] <zizoo> So what could be resetting my keyboard shortcuts for workspace switching? Is the Shortcuts tab under the keyboard settings dialog not the correct place to go?
[04:28] <repus> jrib, i've already done it. hence, why i am here ;)
[04:28] <jrib> repus: so what happens when you try to delete this file?
[04:28] <repus> jrib, an error
[04:28] <jrib> repus: with "rm" say
[04:28] <shawn> ya
[04:28] <shawn> yay!!!
[04:28] <jrib> repus: what error?
[04:28] <shawn> i love tmux
[04:28] <repus> jrib, rm error.
[04:28] <shawn> i cant believe i was using screen for all these years
[04:28] <jrib> repus: again, be specific
[04:28] <shawn> tmux is awesome
[04:28] <repus> jrib: rm: cannot remove `R.java': Permission denied
[04:29] <repus> for example
[04:29] <leptone> shawn, directed at me?
[04:29] <jrib> repus: full path to this file?
[04:29] <pineneedlespinea> Like i have open arena...and it plays slow, i'm not sure i have my nvidia drivers installed properly??
[04:30] <repus> jrib, /home/pacman/source/out/target/common/obj/APPS/Mms_intermediates/src/com/android/mms
[04:31] <shawn> leptone: no, this just happened to be the channel i was in when i discovered if i ssh into my laptop and attach irssi on both i can use my desktops keyboard on my laptop without plugging it into it lol
[04:31] <shawn> then i freaked out
[04:31] <jrib> repus: only thing you can really do is use ACLs then.  Even if you change umask, g+s won't act recursively.
[04:31] <pineneedlespinea> hmm
[04:31] <raj> after adding the current user to a group, do I have to do anything to enable that?
[04:31] <jrib> raj: log in again
[04:31] <raj> damnit
[04:32] <raj> so I have to exit everything and come back?
[04:32] <leptone> shawn, nice
[04:32] <jrib> raj: basically, yes
[04:32] <raj> crap
[04:32] <repus> jrib, how would that be setup? would that allow files created by the 'make' command to have proper permissions for any user within the group to issue a 'make clean' and have it be successful?
[04:33] <meLon> I need help getting three monitors working correctly two ATI cards: http://askubuntu.com/questions/261574/cursor-trapped-on-secondary-x-screen
[04:33] <shawn> leptone: because i used to use my desktop keyboard on accident when i was using my laptop
[04:34] <shawn> now i can do it on accident, on purpose
[04:34] <jrib> repus: ACLs allow you to set permissions for additional users and groups (so a file can have user1 permissions, user2 permissions, etc.).  That's not really relevant for your issue.  But ACLs can also recursively set default permissions on a directory.  So you can use that.  You need to add the "acl" option to the partition these files are on, then you can find details in man pages of setfacl and getfacl
[04:34] <jrib> (sorry I don't know of a good online link for these).  Personally, I think it would be better to not bother with this.  just setup a git repo and let people clone the project, work on it, compile, whatever, and then merge back changes
[04:35] <diego_> hi friends
[04:35] <jrib> repus: oh there's one way you could avoid this I guess.  Change umask and change the primary group for the relevant users.  But this applies system-wide and not just on a specific directory (like ACLs would)
[04:36] <jrib> repus: you would essentially be sharing *every* file this way though, not just the project
[04:37] <zizoo> shawn, lol that's awesome. btw, I just tried that with a remote emacs client, and it also works. Heheh.
[04:37] <diego_> how are you?
[04:37] <repus> jrib, thank you for giving it thought. the project is setup as a git. i suppose the easiest way would be to have a username setup for the directory and allow everyone to login with the same username?
[04:37] <diego_> any can help?
[04:38] <jrib> repus: that's another option, yes.  Why don't you just let people clone the project if they want to make changes to it, compile, etc.?
[04:38] <repus> diego_ anyone can help. post your question
[04:38] <repus> jrib, the issue is that multiple people want to login and run test builds or test changes...
[04:38] <repus> jrib, on the same machine...
[04:38] <jrib> repus: so let them clone the project to their machine and do test builds, etc?
[04:39] <repus> jrib, it is a buildbot :)
[04:39] <diego_> i have install matlab but "cp: fallo al extender «/tmp/mathworks_3047/java/jarext/xercesImpl.jar»: Error de entrada/salida
[04:39] <diego_> "
[04:39] <whdi> build a pxe/gpxe server then everybody can boot via  lan or wan
[04:40] <sbaugh> How should I have ubuntu run a command on system launch? I need it to have been run by the time I hit lightdm.
[04:40] <jrib> repus: still seems like people are going to step on each others' toes unless they make sure to only have one person working at the same time
[04:40] <jrib> sbaugh: what command?
[04:40] <repus> jrib, google calendar ;)
[04:41] <sbaugh> jrib: A command to connect to my bluetooth keyboard.
[04:41] <sparky> can i get some one to help me
[04:41] <jrib> repus: heh.  I guess the one login idea is probably easiest then.  ACLs would do what you asked originally though
[04:41] <sparky> bin2fex
[04:41] <sparky> conversion
[04:41] <shawn> zizoo: try resizing the virtual terminal when in irssi its trippy
[04:41] <sbaugh> jrib: specifically "sudo hidd --connect 00:1F:20:4B:32:20" not that it is important
[04:41] <repus> jrib, i am trying to avoid system-wide changes. ;)
[04:42] <repus> jrib, thank you for your help and thoughts! :D
[04:43] <jrib> sbaugh: I guess you can drop that in /etc/rc.local (without sudo).  There is likely a better way, but I don't know offhand and must leave.  I encourage you to research this though
[04:43] <sparky> bin2fex?
[04:43] <sparky> or rather a .bin file to text
[04:43] <sbaugh> okay, thanks jrib
[04:43] <sparky> so i can edit and rebuild into bin
[04:44] <diego_> i have install matlab but "cp: fallo al extender «/tmp/mathworks_3047/java/jarext/xercesImpl.jar»: Error de entrada/salida
[04:45] <diego_> any idea
[04:46] <shawn> what kind of terminal emulator to try with i3?
[04:47] <shenxdong02> Nice to meet you guys :)
[04:48] <rico129> strange... now my backgrounds are all glitched out. probably video card driver issues.
[04:50] <sparky> can any one help me convert a .bin to .bin.fex
[04:50] <diego_> exit
[04:50] <diego_> jojo this no terminal
[04:52] <rico129> i'm being asked to install drivers on x.org 6.9 or later or generate distr... package.?
[04:53] <raj> how come I don't have to ut users in the sudoers file with ubuntu?
[04:53] <raj> *put
[04:54] <shortstraw8> I am having a java problem a weblink school assignment says that the plugin is not there but I have it installed. It will search for a plugin and never finds one any ideas?
[04:55] <rico129> alright I'm not quite sure why it failed...
[04:56] <osiris5118> hi all
[04:56] <pineneedlespinea> how does ubuntu 12 handle rendering 3d?
[04:56] <diego_> hi osiris
[04:56] <doomlord> ubuntu runs gl fine i find
[04:57] <zizoo> shawn: Woah, that's weird. o_O Thanks, I think, lol.
[04:57] <pineneedlespinea> do i need to get them?
[04:57] <osiris5118> i find it good also, though When i initially ran a new install on one of my radeon gpu pcs I needed to reinstall driver package
[04:57] <pineneedlespinea> open arena is gl correct?
[04:58] <whdi> is there any direct3d game for linux?
[04:59] <zizoo> shawn: The Emacs client doesn't seem to care if I resize a remote frame. Displays normally. Makes sense, since I can already re-open that buffer in multiple different views just locally. Though it is a bit disappointing, in a way. xD
[05:00] <dizzylizzy> My friend is having an issue in Ubuntu 12.10 concerning hotkeys. He says that although he sets Super-T to run a terminal, every couple of days it resets to emptying the trash. Anybody know if there is a mechanism that resets the hotkeys and how to disable it?
[05:03] <zizoo> dizzylizzy: I was having a similar problem myself. What method does he use to set this shortcut? Maybe I can figure something out.
[05:03] <zizoo> dizzylizzy: or she*
[05:03] <zizoo> Oops, heh. You said he already. I must be getting tired. xD
[05:04] <pineneedlespinea> whdi you could try running some in wine
[05:05] <pineneedlespinea> google around and save some time nd see if others have found ones that work
[05:05] <raj> how come I don't have to put users in the sudoers file with ubuntu?
[05:05] <pineneedlespinea> combat arms worked at one time xD
[05:06] <osiris5118> favourite linux compatible game guys?
[05:07] <pineneedlespinea> tremoluos xD
[05:08] <pineneedlespinea> there was another RTS i used to play can't remember the name it was 3d
[05:08] <osiris5118> i've been loving a simple oldschool fps called assault cube
[05:08] <pineneedlespinea> hive something
[05:08] <osiris5118> like a dumbed down version of css
[05:08] <dizzylizzy> zizoo, I'm afraid I don't know what method he's using to set the shortcuts. I really ought to get him in here.
[05:09] <dizzylizzy> zizoo, is there a method that seems to stick for you?
[05:09] <dizzylizzy> osiris5118, nethack
[05:09] <pineneedlespinea> hmm
[05:09] <pineneedlespinea> i think sword worked at one time
[05:10] <osiris5118> nethack? is that a 2d rpg, from memory?
[05:10] <pineneedlespinea> i miss my musketeers in fact
[05:11] <wayne> Wheres the offtopic area ?
[05:11] <osiris5118> is there a games channel?
[05:11] <pineneedlespinea> ^^
[05:11] <dizzylizzy> osiris5118, it's a rogue-like, yes
[05:11] <gwinbee> wayne: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:11] <wayne> I'm trash on sleeping pills
[05:11] <wayne> trashed
[05:12] <pineneedlespinea> then go to sleep xD
[05:12] <pineneedlespinea> why would one take sleeping pills and stay awake haha
[05:12] <osiris5118> i've hsd ubuntu for years, but only got xchat today, so a total noob
[05:12] <raj> how come I don't have to put users in the sudoers file with ubuntu?
[05:13] <pineneedlespinea> yea i use xchat when web chat doesnt work right
[05:13] <zizoo> dizzylizzy: Give me a moment, checking something. I think my problem is related to my Compiz window manager. Do you know if he uses Compiz? I understand the default is Metacity. I had to install Compiz.
[05:13] <dizzylizzy> You had to install compiz to get the hotkeys to stick?
[05:13]  * dizzylizzy inhales sharply through teeth
[05:14] <zizoo> dizzylizzy: Ah, no, I already had Compiz, and it was interfering!
[05:14] <zizoo> I installed it previously.
[05:15] <shawn> can anyone help me please?
[05:17] <dizzylizzy> Ah, okay
[05:18] <dizzylizzy> shawn, what do you need help with?
[05:18] <shawn> installing i3
[05:18] <shawn> i am trying to install the latest version from a 3rd party repository
[05:19] <shawn> per the instructions on their website
[05:19] <shawn> :18] [shawn(+i)] [3:freenode/#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt)] [Act: 1]
[05:19] <shawn> er
[05:19] <shawn> shawn@Lubuntu:~$ ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:19] <shawn> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3153 Mar  7 21:28 /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:19] <shawn> shawn@Lubuntu:~$ sudo echo "deb http://debian.sur5r.net/i3/ $(lsb_release -c -s) universe" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:19] <shawn> -bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[05:20] <sam113101> you need to be root to edit sources.list
[05:20] <sam113101> shawn: ^
[05:20] <sam113101> oops
[05:21] <shawn> not sudo?
[05:21] <sam113101> didn't see you did
[05:21] <shawn> i thought ubuntu has root disabled
[05:21] <sam113101> do it manually then, I guess?
[05:22] <Flannel> shawn: sudo in that case works on the echo, not the >>, so to do that, you need echo [stuff] | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list, but it might be better to just stick it in a folder in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, such as /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sur5r.net
[05:22] <Flannel> er sorry, stick it in a file within the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[05:24] <shawn> Flannel: thanks for the suggestion.  what should i name the file?
[05:24] <Flannel> shawn: I suggested debian.sur5r.net, but you can call it whatever you'd like.
[05:25] <zizoo> dizzylizzy: Ok, looked into it further, and folks on the forums are saying that keybindings with super/win don't stick. Some say to edit it with dconf, but results are mixed. Mine is working now, for what it's worth, but my problem appeared to be with Compiz.
[05:25] <dizzylizzy> "keybindings with super/win don't stick"
[05:25] <dizzylizzy> if that's not a bug then I don't know what is
[05:26] <nexus`> i just tried to install kubuntu
[05:26] <nexus`> but apparently it doesnt support bluetooth by default
[05:26] <nexus`> i dont have a non bluetooth keyboard is there anyway i can install this?
[05:26] <DaemonicApathy> nexus`: You might try asking in #kubuntu.
[05:26] <nexus`> i did no answer there
[05:27] <nexus`> but since its so similar to ubuntu
[05:27] <nexus`> figured u guys might know
[05:27] <nexus`> i got a usb mouse
[05:27] <FloodBot1> nexus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:27] <zizoo> dizzylizzy: Of course. Here, found the bug page. Go vote it up, and have your friend do that too. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/995885
[05:27] <nexus`> i couldnt get around the initial install stuff though where it tries to make u type in a computer name
[05:28] <zizoo> Seems to have a lot of attention already, but it never hurts to pitch in.
[05:29] <shawn> Flannel: N: Ignoring file 'debian.sur5r.net' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[05:29] <zizoo> Also, dizzylizzy, I am a liar. GNOME Classic, which I use, defaults to some other window manager, but the standard Unity Desktop uses Compiz. So you might try finagling with its keybindings as well.
[05:30] <DaemonicApathy> nexus`: According to http://idebian.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/manage-hid-bluetooth-devices-in-linux/ you can use "sudo apt-get install bluetooth bluez-utils bluez-gnome" to install bluetooth stuff.
[05:30] <Flannel> shawn: Alright, I guess apt wants you to name it *.list, so go ahead and append a .list to the end of it.
[05:31] <dizzylizzy> zizoo, Thank you!
[05:32] <dizzylizzy> I'll forward him this information
[05:32] <DaemonicApathy> nexus`: More details and steps to configure them at the site.
[05:33] <nexus`> ty DaemonicApathy
[05:33] <DaemonicApathy> yw nexus`
[05:35] <zizoo> Np dizzylizzy, hope that helps. I'm gonna take off for the evening now though, as I have far too much homework to be helping people debug Linux problems. I only came 'cause I had the same problem! xD
[05:35] <WhiteHippo> Hello all. I have an intermittent problem with ubuntu, suspected cause being banshee. After several hours of playing music, it messes up the taskbar graphics into squares of.. colour pixels.
[05:35] <dizzylizzy> zizoo, I appreciate you taking the time, I just wish I could diagnose the problem myself
[05:36] <WhiteHippo> i'm running ubuntu 12.10, cinnamon if that helps.
[05:37] <subcool> could someone help- im trying to do something with xbmc - and it requires, either openbox , or lightdm - but when i run it- i get permission denied. EVEn as root.
[05:37] <subcool> Im banging my head here.
[05:38] <Jordan_U> subcool: How are you trying to "run" openbox or lightdm?
[05:38] <subcool> Jordan_U, In XBMC
[05:38] <subcool> Jordan_U, http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=154888&page=4
[05:38] <subcool> Im gettin NO where with this.
[05:38] <Chef_Catz> with what?
[05:39] <researcher123> my OS suddenyl became slow .What can I do?
[05:40] <Chef_Catz> update?
[05:40] <Jordan_U> subcool: I'd rather not read that entire thread. Is there a command that you're trying to run?
[05:41] <Jordan_U> researcher123: How suddenly? Were you logged in and doing things when it went from normal to slow?
[05:41] <researcher123> Jordan_U: it takes time to log in also
[05:42] <shawn> Flannel: that works
[05:42] <Jordan_U> researcher123: That doesn't answer either of my questions.
[05:42] <sbaugh> What does the startup applications program in Ubuntu edit?
[05:42] <researcher123> Jordan_U: Since a fortnight I have downloaded so much of files then it slowed down
[05:42] <Chef_Catz> jordan_u do you know about the wolvix distro?
[05:42] <Chef_Catz> I need help installing it
[05:43] <Jordan_U> Chef_Catz: No, and this is #ubuntu. For support for other distributions you'll need to ask in their support channel / forums.
[05:43] <subcool> Jordan_U, i hear that complaint- HAHA- yea.. its in a script.. The script calls for either openbox or lightdm, but nothing happens- when i exit the program and view the cmd prmopt it says permission deneied- even as root.
[05:43] <researcher123> Jordan_U: each application n browser open late
[05:43] <Jordan_U> subcool: The normal way to start lightdm is by running "sudo service lightdm start".
[05:44] <subcool> jordan,  so maybe i just needed to reboot?
[05:44] <Chef_Catz> theres nobody in that channel but I found stuff about it on ubuntu forums so I thought I'd come here
[05:44] <Jordan_U> researcher123: I asked two specific questions. Please answer them both, or if you don't understand them say so and I'll try to clarify them.
[05:45] <Jordan_U> Chef_Catz: Sorry, but we have an official policy of only supporting Ubuntu here.
[05:45] <researcher123> Jordan_U:I am not much expert but know a little
[05:45] <Chef_Catz> what's the latest version of ubuntu?
[05:47] <subcool> Jordan_U, hahaa- that just really hurt it..
[05:47] <Jordan_U> Chef_Catz: Ubuntu 12.10 (Ubuntu 12.04 is the latest LTS release).
[05:47] <sbaugh> Dear god Ubuntu is such a maze
[05:47] <subcool> sbaugh, i hear that
[05:48] <sbaugh> So how do I add something to the list of possible sessions in lightdm?
[05:48] <researcher123> Jordan_U: please explain your questions
[05:48] <sbaugh> subcool: Don't think bad of GNU/Linux for Ubuntu's poor organization
[05:49] <subcool> ahhh- i blame all linux.. lol
[05:49] <subcool> i went from redhat, to mandrake to ubuntu.
[05:50] <lbj90> anyone know of a way i can get TTYs back after installing nvidia drivers? I've tried editing my /etc/initramfs/modules and /etc/default/grub already
[05:50] <Jordan_U> researcher123: First, did it seem to become slow over the course of a few minutes, a few hours, or a few days (time between it seeming to run fast and it seeming to run slowly). Second, were you logged in when it started to get slow? (this is a yes or no question)
[05:52] <researcher123> Jordan_U:  it seem to become slow over the course of a few  days. YES
[05:53] <Jordan_U> researcher123: Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[05:53] <researcher123> Jordan_U: Let me try the command
[05:55] <researcher123> Jordan_U: Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606985/
[05:58] <subcool> Jordan_U, ok- that didnt help.. :/
[06:01] <sbaugh> I have added multiple things to my /usr/share/xsessions and none of them have shown up
[06:02] <raj> is udev something important?
[06:03] <raj> is that what allows plug and play?
[06:03] <Seveas> raj: quite
[06:03] <dingusworrell> Anyone had issue with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 64 Server not getting past ureadahead after rebooting? I have a down production system that after removing USB drive, it just hangs there.
[06:03] <Seveas> raj: among other things, yes
[06:03] <raj> cool
[06:04] <raj> what're the other things Seveas?
[06:04] <Seveas> anything to do with hardware and drivers
[06:04] <raj> k
[06:04] <raj> so not important in vbox perhaps?
[06:05] <dingusworrell> Anyone? I can't get the system to boot and its a big problem. fsck goes against all partitions, and they are clean, but it seems MBR or Grub doesn't want to move to next step and just hangs after ureadahead message
[06:06] <james1552> Does anyone know about the Ubuntu Wallpaper IRC thing tonight.
[06:06] <rkhshm1> I'm following this link to setup a shared printing service via my ubuntu machine ... But in the first point itself.. I'm not able to find system->administration->printing menu anywhere
[06:06] <rkhshm1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[06:06] <mokush> james1552: what ubuntu wallpaper irc thing?
[06:06] <rkhshm1> i checked for the mentioned pkgs but all of them are already installed on my machine.
[06:07] <Jordan_U> researcher123: I don't see anything enlightening there. How about /var/log/syslog ?
[06:07] <james1552> For the next release 13.04 to discuss potential wallpapers from the Flickr pool (I know it's a little off topic for this IRC but it is Ubuntu related)
[06:07] <rkhshm1> my machine is 12.04 .. Please help
[06:07] <Jordan_U> rkhshm1: Search for "print" in unity, or run "system-config-printer".
[06:08] <rkhshm1> Jordan_U: ahh. thanks that did the job.
[06:08] <Jordan_U> james1552: #ubuntu-discuss and #ubuntu-offtopic are good places for such discussion.
[06:08] <rkhshm1> thank you
[06:08] <Jordan_U> rkhshm1: You're welcome.
[06:09] <james1552> alright, thanks :)
[06:09] <Jordan_U> james1552: You're welcome :)
[06:11] <selena2013> hello
[06:11] <lbj90> Does anyone have working TTYs with nvidia-current?
[06:12] <rkhshm1> Jordan_U: Do i have to setup Samba to actually allow windows clients to see the printer connected to my machine?
[06:13] <sbaugh> Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy isn't lightdm picking up my xsessions in /usr/share/xsessions
[06:14] <james1552> No one seems to be responding in the other ubuntu rooms.. :(
[06:14] <shawn> yow
[06:15] <james1552> is there a good channel to just ask general IRC help, thats a bit more active?
[06:15] <Jordan_U> rkhshm1: I believe that it should be set up automagically.
[06:15] <sbaugh> if this is how "easy to use" ubuntu is no wonder linux has a reputation for being complex!
[06:16] <sbaugh> Has anyone successfully placed an xsession in /usr/share/xsesssions/?
[06:16] <rkhshm1> hmm.. But when i looked into my colleagues windows machine (win 7) and tried to print a file i was not able to find the designated printer being shown on that machine
[06:16] <Jordan_U> rkhshm1: Is that in an office environment?
[06:16] <rkhshm1> Jordan_U: yes
[06:17] <Jordan_U> rkhshm1: Is there a workgroup/domain for the company?
[06:18] <rkhshm1> Jordan_U: well actually we are in a shared office setup where the infrastructure is given by the complex owner.. SO i'm not sure about anything.. ANd our IT guys are not here today
[06:18] <Jordan_U> rkhshm1: You likely need to be sharing the printer to that same domain/workgroup (I don't know how to do this), and it may require an administrator account on the domain controller to do so.
[06:19] <lbj90> sbaugh i may be wrong but doesn't Xresources belong as ~/.Xresources?
[06:20] <lbj90> I gave up on an arch install today but at least Xresources worked-- granted that may not translate over to Ubuntu
[06:20] <lbj90> nvm misread that, you said xsessions..
[06:22] <joostshao> wooo
[06:22] <joostshao> any  phper ?
[06:22] <gnuskool> php has a room
[06:22] <Jordan_U> rkhshm1: If your collegue can log into his account from any machine, then that means that he's logged into a domain. I don't know a whole lot about Windows domains and policy but I know enough to say that it can make this type of thing more complicated (especially if the computer you're trying to share the printer from is not logged into the same domain, which while possible, is probably not the case with your Ubuntu machine :)
[06:22] <ferronica> how to remove NDIS Wrapper 1.58 installed via terminal downloaded from sourceForge
[06:23] <joostshao> s
[06:25] <ferronica> how to remove NDIS Wrapper 1.58 installed via terminal downloaded from sourceForge
[06:26] <aeon-ltd> ferronica: was it installed with apt?
[06:27] <ferronica> aeon-ltd, downloaded from Source Forge and did Make install
[06:27] <ferronica> aeon-ltd, and make uninstall something like
[06:28] <ferronica> aeon-ltd, nowi want to completely remove NDIS from my system
[06:29] <aeon-ltd> ferronica: so you've done 'make uninstall', then it should be removed, but if it has configs leftover i wouldn't know where to find them
[06:29] <ferronica> aeon-ltd, Downloaded version 1.58 latest version from SourceForge.com
[06:29] <ferronica> aeon-ltd, ya want to remove all stuff from system
[06:29] <ferronica> aeon-ltd, even all configs
[06:32] <aeon-ltd> ferronica: i'm sorry, i don't know how to find the configs.
[06:36] <sgo11> hi, how can I set the default plymouth theme to text? So far, I can achieve this by manually creating a default.plymouth link to text.plymouth. not sure if this is the correct way since normal process is to use update-alternatives command. thanks.
[06:39] <Seveas> sgo11: the alternatives setup seems to solve the purpose of selecting different graphical and text themes, not to set the default to text
[06:41] <sgo11> Seveas, yeah, that's right. that's why I am asking what the proper way to set the default to text is. :) so far, I just manually "rm default.plymouth" and then "ln -s text.plymouth default.plymouth" something like this. it works. not sure if it's the correct way or not. :)
[06:42] <Seveas> sgo11: it's as correct as any :)
[06:42]  * sjd_zeus .
[06:43] <sgo11> Seveas, ok, cool. ^_^
[06:44] <sgo11> plymouth graphical mode is not working with nvidia driver. very sad. not sure when this can be solved.
[06:46] <joostshao> what is the new features in 13.04??
[06:46] <sbaugh> Hey, my xsessions that I put in /usr/share/xsession aren't showing up in lightdm, any tips?
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> joostshao: ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:48] <haiderhaider> Can anyone tell me where I can get mpeg codecs for Kubuntu?
[06:49] <Seveas> sbaugh: pastebin the .desktop file, and the output of ls -la /usr/share/xsessions/
[06:49] <Seveas> haiderhaider: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:49] <Seveas> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | haiderhaider
[06:52] <suigeneris> hi
[06:52] <sbaugh> Seveas: thank you! just a second
[06:53] <sbaugh> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/GzkR16D4
[06:53] <haiderhaider> seveas: Sorry I am new to this and not really sure what you are trying to tell me.
[06:53] <sbaugh> haiderhaider: Install that package he mentioned
[06:54] <sbaugh> haiderhaider: specifically, do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[06:54] <haiderhaider> sbaugh: Trying it now
[06:54] <Seveas> haiderhaider: I'm telling you to install that package :-)
[06:55] <haiderhaider> seveas: Thank you it's downloading now.
[06:55] <the_dark_knight> Hi, I am following this procedure - http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-mysql-5.6-on-ubuntu-12.10-including-memcached-plugin to install mysql 5.6 on ubuntu 12.04. On the step where I do - /etc/init.d/mysql.server start I am getting an error saying - "Couldn't find MySQL server (/usr/bin/mysqld_safe)" Why? Also as I am installing mysql5.6 from source the mysqld_safe is in /usr/local/mysql/bin/ dir. What should I do? please help me out here.
[06:55] <haiderhaider> sbaugh: Thanks for making it clearer.
[06:56] <sbaugh> Seveas: Anything that jumps out to you about the xsessions? Please tell me I did something blatantly wrong and easily fixed :)
[06:56] <Seveas> sbaugh: the one doesn't have a comment, the other has an Exec that may be bogus (if your homedir is encrypted, it can't access it. It may not be executable)
[06:56] <suigeneris> can you help? I've been getting '/bin/sh: libc.so.6: no such file or directory' or similar message when I try to switch kernels. I have a /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 but that is a symlink to /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc-2.15.so
[06:57] <Seveas> also, it's spelled Herp Derp Derp :-)
[06:57] <suigeneris> (I think)
[06:57] <sbaugh> Seveas: Okay, I'll try correcting that
[06:57] <Seveas> sbaugh: (back in 15, running to a train)
[06:59] <sbaugh> Seveas: wow, I... changed custom.desktop, and it's not showing up, but now derp.desktop is
[07:09] <rohitkav> I am unable to connect to wifi. Kindly help
[07:09] <rohitkav> on my ubuntu machine
[07:09] <ferronica> rohitkav: WLAN Specification
[07:10] <Novus> HAHAHHHAAH
[07:11] <jony> how can I open a second Krusader window in Ubuntu 12.04?
[07:11] <Novus> So lastnight-this morning I had an aweful time installing ubuntu,.. so much to the point where I just gave up and installed ubuntu
[07:12] <Novus> the last issue for those who wern't here was the nvidia GPU
[07:12] <Novus> today I found this
[07:12] <Novus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1lSCI0bO_c
[07:12] <leptone> novus what? you had trouble installing ubuntu so u gave up and installed ubuntu
[07:12] <Novus> installed kubuntu
[07:12] <Novus> but watch the vid
[07:13] <leptone> love nixie :)
[07:13] <leptone> ive seen the video
[07:13] <leptone> what r u trying to do
[07:14] <leptone> ?
[07:14] <Novus> nothing now
[07:14] <Novus> i sold the comp
[07:18] <jony> how can I open a second Krusader window in Ubuntu 12.04?
[07:20] <suigeneris> hi
[07:20] <suigeneris> can anyone help me with a kernel issue?
[07:20] <the_dark_knight> Hi, What does this error mean - "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'"?
[07:21] <jony> I've found out: SHIFT+click
[07:22] <suigeneris> I've been getting '/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory'
[07:22] <somsip> the_dark_knight: mysql is possibly not running
[07:22] <suigeneris> when trying to switch kernels
[07:23] <Seveas> sbaugh: neat trick :)
[07:23] <suigeneris> Seveas: I assume you can help me
[07:24] <suigeneris> actually I'd been waiting for you
[07:24] <Seveas> suigeneris: looks like you're trying to boot either an ancient kernel or an x86_64 kernel. Why?
[07:24] <Novus> So I got a trick I wanna try
[07:24] <Seveas> the_dark_knight: most likely that mysqld isn't running.
[07:24] <Novus> I wanna see if it is possible
[07:25] <Seveas> the_dark_knight: another explanation could be that you changed the socket path
[07:25] <suigeneris> Seveas: long time ago, I'd installed xen and that brought its own kernel. I now want to get rid of it
[07:25] <Novus> my new rig has a slot for an entire hard drive to be pluged in as if it was a flash drive
[07:25] <Novus> you just drop it in
[07:26] <Novus> only trick is you have to have it pluged in before you turn on the system so the bio recognizes it
[07:26] <Seveas> suigeneris: oh, I have no experience with exorcizing xen I'm afraid.
[07:26] <suigeneris> Seveas: so, I thought just switching kernels and uninstalling would be sufficient, but no
[07:26] <Seveas> suigeneris: try installing linux-generic (or linux-server on a server) first, that should bring in the most recent kernel for your release
[07:26] <Novus> what I'd like to do is whenever the hard drive is in place on boot up it just loads that and not the internal hd's
[07:27] <Novus> brb
[07:27] <erickLee> how do i fix empathy non connectivity?
[07:28] <suigeneris> Seveas: I'm now on a LiveCD and uname -a gives me: Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 25 17:15:33 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux. that is NOT 64 bit, right?
[07:29] <Seveas> suigeneris: correct. And you're trying to chroot into the old os?
[07:29] <suigeneris> that uname -a is after the chroot of course
[07:29] <Seveas> ah
[07:29] <Seveas> but uname doesn't care about chroot
[07:29] <Seveas> so, do this: file /path/to/chroot/bin/bash
[07:29] <erickLee> the error i encounter is faid to retrieve your personal info from server.
[07:30] <erickLee> failed*
[07:30] <suigeneris> Seveas: /bin/bash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=0xf199a4a89ac968c2e0e99f2410600b9d7e995187, stripped
[07:30] <erickLee> it has been this way since i configured my router
[07:31] <Seveas> ok, so all 32 bit. And the system in the chroot is ancient.
[07:31] <Seveas> why not reinstall with a supported version of ubuntu?
[07:32] <Seveas> hmm, that me just be the buildd kernel, nevermind
[07:32] <Seveas> suigeneris: what's the release installed in the chroot?
[07:32] <suigeneris> Seveas: 12.04. not so ancient
[07:32] <suigeneris> livecd is 12.04 as well
[07:33] <Seveas> ok, so in the chroot, apt-get install linux-generic
[07:33] <suigeneris> I'm doing dhat now
[07:33]  * suigeneris crosses Seveas' fingers as well as his own
[07:34] <ferronica> rohitkav, can i get help regarding Geary
[07:35] <suigeneris> hopefully, I will not have to reinstall OS and lose more than I can afford
[07:36] <omenreal> on the bright side atleast linux has a fast install time? lol
[07:37] <suigeneris> Seveas: I got errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5607105/
[07:37] <suigeneris> omenreal: that was for me?
[07:37] <suigeneris> well, I'm at work man, I've to work
[07:37] <Seveas> suigeneris: bindmount /dev into the chroot (mount -o bind /dev /path/to/chroot/dev
[07:38] <blue112> Hello here.
[07:38] <rico129> Alright I can't get my video drivers installed correctly. Any help for installing ati hd 5770 drivers? i have a screenshot of my desktop to kind of help the situation. can I post imgur links?
[07:38] <omenreal> yea that was at you im actually reinstalling linux as we speak on my desktop do to my issue
[07:38] <suigeneris> Seveas: this is to be executed outside chroot, right?
[07:38] <Seveas> suigeneris: correct
[07:38] <Seveas> same for /proc and /sys
[07:38] <blue112> rico129, you can post anything that may help understand your problem.
[07:39] <omenreal> i actually have the same problem as him pretty much but with a 6450
[07:39] <rico129> http://i.imgur.com/v5an0b1.jpg here's the imgur link to get an idea. everytime i try to install ati hd 5770 drivers following forum post instructions it never installs and just says error.
[07:39] <rico129> i have dual monitors.
[07:39] <blue112> rico129, looks like missinstalled drivers.
[07:40] <rico129> I followed instructions on a forum to remove unity and install gnome 3 experience. hope that didn't mess anything up either.
[07:40] <blue112> rico129, I don't think so. I run on gnome 3 too.
[07:40] <blue112> Did you install AMD Catalyst ?
[07:40] <rico129> I tried but it fails at one part
[07:41] <rico129> i'll run it again and take screenshot.
[07:41] <omenreal> blue112: Are you good with amd related issues?
[07:41] <rico129> i downloaded the latest drivers from amd's website.
[07:42] <suigeneris> Seveas: for future reference, I have to mount /dev /proc and /sys every time, prior to chroot, right?
[07:42] <Seveas> suigeneris: can be done after chrooting. But yes, bindmounting those will make running things inside the chroot easier
[07:43] <blue112> omenreal, not much, I run on a nividia/
[07:43] <suigeneris> Seveas: got it. another lesson learned. thanks :)
[07:43] <omenreal> rico129: is it a fresh OS install? did you do the linux headers and such?
[07:43] <blue112> rico129, installation when without any problem ? Could you paste the content of /etc/X11/xorg.conf at pastebin ( http://pastebin.com/ ) ?
[07:44] <rico129> Alright so I choose "Generate Distr Spec Driver Pkg" read the agreement, click agree, under package generation I pick from either redhat,suse, or build package for detected OS: ubuntu/quantal, i pick ubuntu
[07:44] <rico129> It's  a fresh install.
[07:44] <rico129> no less than 2 hours working on it. all i did was download mumble, teamspeak, and wine.
[07:44] <omenreal> rico129: did you get the linux headers?
[07:44] <rico129> I don't know what that is..:-S
[07:45] <blue112> rico129, so it did work correctly. Did you run an ubuntu update or reboot your computer ?
[07:45]  * suigeneris crosses everyone's fingers and goes to reboot
[07:46] <suigeneris> Seveas: installation completer. anything I have to do before reboot?
[07:46] <suigeneris> complete*
[07:46] <rico129> I tried installing the ati drivers, restarted and it didn't give me the desktop. just the background picture. I then CTRL+ALT+F3 to terminal and tried starting up gnome-shell and it said operation not allowed, did a reboot and got to desktop.
[07:46] <Seveas> suigeneris: nope.
[07:46] <Aliengel> mysql
[07:47] <Aliengel> oops sorry, mt
[07:47] <rico129> http://imgur.com/i94v2aQ this is the error and i'm going to check log.
[07:47] <suigeneris> Seveas: thanks
[07:47] <omenreal> rico129: before installing an amd driver you should have done sudo apt get linux-headers-generic if you havnt already
[07:47] <rico129> I didn't do that omenreal
[07:47] <blue112> rico129, I see. Maybe your kernel get updated in the mean time. You should maybe try to reinstall.
[07:47] <omenreal> apt-get*
[07:47] <blue112> Oooor, look the log file, yeah
[07:47] <rico129> lol
[07:47] <blue112> And copy it to us if you don't understand it :p
[07:47] <Seveas> suigeneris: (fyi, I'll be offline in a few minutes, back online half an hour after that)
[07:48] <rico129> i thought error logs go to /var?
[07:48] <blue112> rico129, usually, yes. This one doesn't.
[07:48] <omenreal> anyway reinstall finished so time for me to start asking amd related graphics questions too... sigh
[07:49] <blue112> People should really get NVidia cards when they know they are going to use linux
[07:49] <blue112> there is really less bugs with thoses.
[07:49] <rico129> http://imgur.com/ZPZTtSr
[07:49] <Seveas> blue112: or intel. I've been using intel for years without problems.
[07:49] <omenreal> i didnt have any plans on using linux i just got bored 3 days ago lol
[07:50] <blue112> omenreal, yeah, but if you want to play some games...
[07:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> rico129: pastebin would be better for such things.
[07:50] <rico129> Will start using it ntzrmtthihu777
[07:50] <blue112> rico129, you should try to use the binary installation. It may work better.
[07:50] <sgo11> I give up ATI card about 10 years ago when I switch to Linux. ATI is always broken in Linux.
[07:50] <omenreal> mhm thats why im here... to let the smart people tell me how dumb i am and hope i get it working lol
[07:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> sgo11: I got an ati card, works just fine :D
[07:51] <rico129> I actually tried the binary installation following a guide i saw in a forum. didn't go well.
[07:51] <omenreal> what kind ?
[07:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> lemme see
[07:51] <blue112> rico129, what didn't go well ?
[07:51] <rico129> installing from command line.
[07:51] <rico129> err.. terminal.
[07:51] <omenreal> my issue is with ati radeon hd 6450
[07:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
[07:52] <SecuRex0> Hey guys how about use ubuntu mainly for my own desktop?
[07:52] <sgo11> ntzrmtthihu777, ok... you are lucky then. hehe. about 10 years ago, ATI was very bad on Linux. :)
[07:52] <rico129> So you recommend doing the linux headers first?
[07:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> SecuRex0: easily done, I use it on both my machines. laptop and desktop
[07:53] <blue112> rico129, yeah.
[07:53] <rico129> "sudo apt-get install lin...headers"?
[07:53] <blue112> rico129, you don't have to be afraid of terminal since you're here and we're all terminal pro-users :D
[07:54] <BillyZane> hello
[07:54] <rico129> well that's comforting :P
[07:54] <omenreal> Okay so from a fresh install... just updated how would i go about installing the ati radeon hd 6450 drivers? already tried most of the ways listed and i just get a black screen and have to uninstall to get my screen back any ideas?
[07:54] <blue112> rico129, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[07:54] <rico129> installing.
[07:54] <rico129> completed.
[07:54] <blue112> omenreal, black screen is generally a problem which driver. You can look for it in dmesg or /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:55] <blue112> rico129, ok. Now you should try install the binary driver.
[07:55] <rico129> what exactly is this linux headers? is it generic drivers?
[07:55] <rico129> curious what the headers means in that.
[07:55] <SecuRex0> ntzrmtthihu777: I've used Windows from now, so wondering if linux-installed desktop is suitable for me.
[07:55] <blue112> rico129, it's files the drivers need to compile against your kernel.
[07:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> rico129: its what it says it is, headers.
[07:55] <sgo11> blue112, rico129, I guess it depends on which version of linux header does ati driver use. for ubuntu 12.10, nvidia driver, you have to install a old version of linux header before installing nvidia-current. that was a bug in ubuntu 12.10.
[07:55] <blue112> omenreal, looking at the error messages will help us to understand your problem, and debug it.
[07:55] <blue112> sgo11, really ? That's lame.
[07:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> SecuRex0: I have used windows all my life, excluding the last year, and I don't regret a single thing about it.
[07:56] <rico129> Not sure what headers meant ntzrmtthihu777, but I think i got it now.
[07:56] <omenreal> im on a fresh install now so i dont have any errors yet
[07:56] <rico129> to install binary i should just "yum install ati-binaries"?
[07:57] <rico129> not that easy huh lol
[07:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> SecuRex0: and the best thing about linux, for the most part, is you can burn a disc and test it on your system before installing.
[07:57] <sgo11> blue112, look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2070426   for ubuntu 12.10 fresh install, people have to install  linux-headers-3.5.0-17-generic before installing nvidia. I am not sure ATI though.
[07:57] <blue112> rico129, nop. You should download binary drivers from amd website.
[07:57] <rico129> alright. i'm on it
[07:57] <zvm-vlam> Hi all
[07:57] <rico129> hi
[07:58] <zvm-vlam> Can anyone help with getting a instance running on kvm ontop of Ubuntu to be able to see my tape drives (instance is a Linux Net Backup server)
[07:58] <rico129> ati website leads me to a .zip of catalyst. and i think it's a .run inside? Proceed?
[07:58] <SecuRex0> ntzrmtthihu777: how about active-x? many things from microsoft are not compatiable with linux.
[07:59] <blue112> zvm-vlam, I think it's a little too technical for this channel. You may want to go to a more specific channel.
[07:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> SecuRex0: depends on those many things you speak of. I currently have 4 microsoft-based softwares installed\
[08:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> SecuRex0: you can pm and I can talk a bit more about it, as this is not really tech support per se
[08:00] <zvm-vlam> cool
[08:00] <SecuRex0> ntzrmtthihu777: what's pm? this is ma first time to come to irc chann here.
[08:00] <SecuRex0> it means private message?
[08:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> yesh.
[08:01] <blue112> SecuRex0, yeah. You can use /query USER to query a user.
[08:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> or just /q USER
[08:02] <rico129> i just got a "appor - k" ubuntu  is ready notification" alert? should I reinstalled?
[08:02] <blue112> rico129, sounds like apport. It runs when a program crashes.
[08:02] <rico129> oh
[08:02] <blue112> rico129, did you launch that binary in a terminal ?
[08:02] <rico129> I'm trying to find the binary. so far i found the .zip with a .run inside.
[08:02] <blue112> s/launch/run/
[08:02] <blue112> rico129, the .run is the binary?.
[08:03] <blue112> -?
[08:03] <blue112> You just have to run it inside a terminal.
[08:03] <rico129> alright, didn't know that. Good news. I have the binary.
[08:03] <blue112> Do you know how to do that ?
[08:03] <rico129> "chmod +x | ./<name"
[08:03] <rico129> ?
[08:03] <blue112> && instead of |
[08:04] <histo> rico129: you can find out with file somefile.foo
[08:04] <blue112> Well, actually no
[08:04] <blue112> chmod +x name
[08:04] <blue112> ./name
[08:04] <blue112> Will do the trick.
[08:04] <suigeneris> hi
[08:04] <FloodBot1> blue112: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:04] <blue112> But since it's a driver, you should add sudo before running it.
[08:04] <blue112> FloodBot1, yeah yeah, sorry.
[08:04] <suigeneris> Seveas: unfortunately same error
[08:04] <rico129> "chmod +x ./<file.run>"
[08:04] <histo> rico129: Which driver are you trying to install btw?
[08:04] <rico129> catalyst 13.1
[08:04] <blue112> rico129, sounds good.
[08:04] <histo> rico129: Stop
[08:04] <histo> rico129: Why aren't you using the repos to install it?
[08:05] <rico129> histo: I don't know how to do that.
[08:05] <histo> rico129: You can't easily uninstall AMD's version. It will break your system.
[08:05] <histo> !ati | rico129
[08:05] <blue112> histo, I always runned fine with binary driver from catalyst.
[08:05] <rico129> alright time for some reading.
[08:06] <histo> blue112: Right there is no point to do that.  If you try and remove that driver your system will be broken
[08:06] <TakeItEZ> !worksforme | blue112
[08:06] <rico129> i don't want that :(
[08:06] <histo> blue112: if you install it hte proper way you won't have problems.
[08:06] <histo> rico129: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  Here follow this
[08:06] <rico129> thank you histo
[08:06] <tasslehoff> is there a way I can check the kernelconfig for the current kernel on my system?
[08:07] <rico129> thanks blue112 for helping too.
[08:07] <TakeItEZ> tasslehoff: /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[08:07] <histo> tasslehoff: why not just uname
[08:07] <suigeneris> Seveas: are you there?
[08:07] <blue112> Nobody was there for helping but there's always people here trying to telling what not to do.
[08:08] <tasslehoff> TakeItEZ: thanks
[08:08] <rico129> I don't think histo was leading to that blue112.
[08:08] <histo> blue112: I just popped in.
[08:10] <histo> rico129: blue112 basically you should be using hardware drivers to install them.
[08:10] <tasslehoff> my compiles stops with "cc1plus: out of memory". I have 8GB ram, and it is nowhere near that when it crashes. someone told me to check CONFIG_VMSPLIT. now I need to figure out why :)
[08:10] <blue112> histo, hardware drivers ? What do you mean ?
[08:10] <histo> blue112: What version of ubuntu are you on?
[08:11] <blue112> histo, 12.04. I have no driver problem btw :3
[08:12] <rico129> where is the hardware drivers manager in ubuntu?
[08:12] <histo> blue112: in 12.04 if you navigate to system settings or gnome-control-center there is a hardware drivers GUI that assists users in installing the proper driver if it's not provided by default.
[08:12] <suigeneris> sigh
[08:12] <histo> rico129: Which version?
[08:12] <rico129> lol this is embarrasing...
[08:13] <histo> rico129: in 12.04 it's where I just told blue112 in 12.10 its System Settings > Software Sources > Hardware
[08:13] <rico129> ok heading there now.
[08:13] <SecuRex0> rico129: that's okay, open your system settings menu, and look for first.
[08:15] <suigeneris> anybody can help me? I've been getting '/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory'. what I lately did is chroot into the OS and apt-get install linux-generic
[08:15] <rico129> i'm on ubuntu 12.10
[08:15] <rico129> there is no hardware tab, but i see additional drivers.
[08:15] <histo> rico129: yeah that's it
[08:16] <Guest50482> if there are two ftp servers running in my system, how'd I know which one I am connecting to?
[08:16] <histo> Guest50482: Depends which ports they are listening on.
[08:16] <rico129> i see two options. fglrx and fglrx-updates
[08:16] <SecuRex0> suigeneris: serach on web about libc.so.6 and download it, after all put it on /lib/
[08:16] <rico129> try fglrx first?
[08:17] <histo> rico129: What other options do you have? can you paste a screenshot
[08:17] <histo> !paste | rico129
[08:17] <Guest50482> histo, nice idea... thanks :)
[08:17] <Martin_1> Hi there, I am looking for a gnome/ubuntu customization guru for my question on askubuntu !  http://askubuntu.com/questions/265450/gnome-desktop-menu-layout-problem Thanks !!!
[08:17] <zetheroo> what is lsb_release and why is it error-ing out almost daily?
[08:17] <SecuRex0> suigeneris: you must know a binaries which are not compiled with platform-independant option depend on their own things such as libs, or something like that.
[08:17] <histo> Guest50482: Yeah you could have one listening on one port and a different one listening on another. Any reason you are running two in the first place?
[08:18] <rico129> http://imagebin.org/249948
[08:18] <SecuRex0> suigeneris: that means, you've to make your system suitable as your binary.
[08:18] <TakeItEZ> zetheroo: "error-ing" how?
[08:18] <Novus> it's offical I now have 6 hard drives! :)
[08:18] <rico129> :)
[08:18] <SecuRex0> download or reinstall libc.so.6 for your ubuntu version and put it into /lib/ directory.
[08:18] <histo> rico129: yes fglrx
[08:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> Novus: >3< gimme!
[08:18] <Guest50482> no, actually I want to use vsftpd, but I think there's already one installed by default
[08:18] <rico129> thank you histo
[08:18] <suigeneris> SecuRex0: my uname -a after chroot shows i686
[08:19] <Guest50482> the default one and vsftpd, both listen on port 21
[08:19] <zetheroo> TakeItEZ: I get these popup messages asking me if I want to report an error ...
[08:19] <TakeItEZ> Guest50482: there is no ftp-server in a default installation
[08:19] <SecuRex0> suigeneris: i686, what version of the linux you are on?
[08:19] <histo> Guest50482: Well the shouldn't both be listening. And there is no default one.
[08:19] <rico129> installing.
[08:20] <suigeneris> SecuRex0: 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu
[08:20] <rico129> should my monitor be flashing bright red and yellow rapidly?
[08:20] <rico129> just kidding :P
[08:20] <rico129> can I just log out or is a reboot in order?
[08:21] <histo> rico129: Logging out will not work. You woul dhave to load the module and restart X to not reboot. So if you don't know how to do all that. Just reboot
[08:22] <SecuRex0> suigeneris: hmm i think the better way is that reinstalling ubuntu which is the same version with yours to Virtual Machines, USB, or something having storage and extract your dependant libcs and copy it.
[08:22] <rico129> When you say X, does that mean X window?
[08:22] <SecuRex0> suigeneris: but wait. i'll search it.
[08:22] <rico129> i'm going to reboot, but just curious.
[08:22] <suigeneris> SecuRex0: does i686 not mean 32 bit?
[08:22] <Novus> what does on do with 6 hard drives?
[08:22] <TakeItEZ> suigeneris: it means 32bit
[08:23] <Novus> one*
[08:23] <Novus> lol
[08:23] <SecuRex0> suigeneris: it means 32bit. x86_64 means 64bit kernel.
[08:23] <SecuRex0> otherwise not for the linux kernel, but for the cpu, you type:
[08:23] <SecuRex0> cat /proc/cpuinfo or grep flags /proc/cpuinfo
[08:24] <Novus> questions about GPU
[08:24] <SecuRex0> under flags parameter you will see various values. among them one is named tm(transparent mode) or rm(real mode) or lm(long mode)
[08:24] <Novus> do I need to use nomodset for ati cards?
[08:24] <Novus> nomodeset*
[08:24] <SecuRex0> rm is 16bit, tm is 32bit, lm is 64bit you know.
[08:24] <rico129> Ah yes! This is more like it! Thanks histo!!!
[08:24] <SecuRex0> suigeneris:
[08:26] <SecuRex0> suigeneris: I send you a private message with answer
[08:26] <rico129> alright now we have my first error. it won't let me use extended dual monitors. I get an error. Should I try fgxlr-updates histo?
[08:28] <rico129> http://imagebin.org/249949
[08:29] <suigeneris> SecuRex0: I have once been told I should edit /etc/ld.co.conf and rebuild the cache. I did that. but now that edit doesn't exist. I wonder if I should do the same thing
[08:31] <histo> rico129: It's not seeing the other monitor. Is it hooked up?
[08:31] <rico129> yep. I think I just found the amd CCC though.
[08:31] <rico129> going to try this and see if it works.
[08:31] <suigeneris> brb
[08:32] <histo> kk
[08:34] <rico129> Yes, yes. It's working!
[08:35] <auronandace> !yay
[08:35] <histo> Novus: some of them yes
[08:35] <rico129> Now comes the tough part guys, who wants to help me configure a 500 SAS SAN?
[08:36] <rico129> just kidding.
[08:38] <wookiepooky> what does extra cluster in $bitmap mean for disk errors?
[08:39] <n8w> i have lately been experiencing random reboots, whats the place to start trableshootin? dmesg? well i dont rly know what to look for...
[08:41] <rico129> Now onto my next task. How do I "properly" install a program so that it will be in the gnome launcher with all the other programs.
[08:41] <rico129> It's pretty much just running all the files from my download folder. Should I drop it in /usr/bin?
[08:42] <Ben64> rico129: what are you trying to do?
[08:43] <Georg_0815> hi there, i have a more or less ubuntu related problem
[08:43] <xkcd> I am using Ubuntu 12.10 I installed chatzilla addon on my firefox 19  I am unable to connect to freenode IRC but I am able to connects to others I asked people on #chatzila moznet IRC
[08:43] <histo> !software | rico129
[08:43] <histo> !manual | rico129 This will also be a good starting point for you.
[08:43] <rico129> Well Ben64. I downloaded teamspeak 3, and ran the installer and it's now just a folder sitting in my downloads folders and i open the program from there.
[08:43] <xkcd> They asked me to run grep nameserver /run/resolvconf/interface/*` and `dig +trace chat.freenode.net
[08:43] <rico129> thanks histo
[08:43] <rico129> that's what I need.
[08:44] <Novus> what is a good IRC chat client?
[08:44] <Novus> for ubuntu?
[08:44] <histo> rico129: teamspeak is a little different. They distribute a binary. You'd have to create the shortcut yourself. I don't believe ts3 is in the repositories
[08:44] <xkcd> after this they said your local resovler is has some fault
[08:44] <histo> Novus: most people use xchat when they start. I use weechat.
[08:44] <rico129> I checked and there is only ts2 currently.
[08:44] <wookiepooky> I need to edit what boots during windows start up...defraggler is hanging, i've uninstalled it, but the defrag on boot-up keep trying to run =c
[08:45] <dr_willis> Novus:  i perfer weechat these days
[08:45] <histo> rico129: Yeah so unless there is a PPA you are stuck downloading it and creating a shortcut yourself.
[08:45] <histo> wookiepooky: ask in #windows
[08:46] <wookiepooky> but i'm using ubuntu....
[08:46] <Novus> alright,.. going to try installing ubuntu on my new righ
[08:46] <Novus> rig*
[08:46] <rico129> does ubuntu come with an antivirus running off the bat?
[08:46] <Novus> be back in a bit
[08:46] <wookiepooky> glhf
[08:46] <rico129> ubuntu 12.10 to be exact?
[08:46] <dr_willis> wookiepooky:  and we know very little about the innerds of windows..
[08:47] <wookiepooky> rico, no not that i kno of
[08:48] <suigeneris> SecuRex0: nothing worked, still the same message :S
[08:48] <histo> !av | rico129
[08:49] <rico129> That's interesting histo!
[08:50] <histo> rico129: You have to lose the windows mentality and read that manual link that ubottu told you about. That will be the biggest help and answer most of your initial questions for day to day tasks
[08:50] <rico129> Just cracked it open!
[08:50] <histo> rico129: linux != windows and doesn't have it's problem
[08:51] <dr_willis> it has its own. ;)
[08:51] <histo> rico129: I'm referring to this link http://ubuntu-manual.org/  of course
[08:51] <rico129> the whole system settings interface reminds me of mac os x
[08:51] <rico129> on gnome 3.
[08:52] <TakeItEZ> dr_willis: don't scratch the "linux is safe" image...
[08:52] <histo> lol
[08:52] <dr_willis> Biggest danger to a Linux system i see in here on a daily basis - is the enduser doing somthing silly.
[08:53] <histo> If the distro maker can be trusted yes.
[08:53] <PrincessLuna> How can I get right click to work with a touchscreen. On Windows 8 and Android, it works by holding down a finger for a while.
[08:53] <TakeItEZ> users should be kept away from linux-systems, true
[08:53] <histo> TakeItEZ: they are in a way with sudo
[08:54] <TakeItEZ> histo: they aren#t
[08:54] <histo> TakeItEZ: uac is important on any system.
[08:54] <TakeItEZ> histo: this "sudo" thing makes people run almost any command using sudo because they don#t know when it is really needed and when not
[08:55] <histo> You can't fix stupid
[08:55] <TakeItEZ> unfortunately, true
[08:55] <dr_willis> not in any legal ways.. at least. ;)
[08:57] <wookiepooky> how do i run regedit as root in terminal...well cmd.exe since i have to run that to get to regedit =c
[08:57] <TakeItEZ> wookiepooky: this is not #windows
[08:58] <wookiepooky> who said nything about windows?
[08:58] <TakeItEZ> wookiepooky: you
[08:58] <artrei> TakeItEZ, i think i'm one of those people that always run sudo, please tell me when i shouldn't use it?
[08:58] <wookiepooky> i asked about terminal
[08:58] <TakeItEZ> artrei: in most cases
[08:58] <TakeItEZ> wookiepooky: stop trolling, neither cmd.exe nor regedit exist in linux systems
[08:59] <wookiepooky> quit being ignorant they are on your hardrive and other dual boot systems
[08:59] <artrei> TakeItEZ, any resource i could read about this sudo things?
[08:59] <TakeItEZ> !sudo | artrei i don't know if that explain backgrounds
[09:00] <wookiepooky> i'll try in #wine ty
[09:00] <artrei> thanks! TakeItEZ
[09:00] <suigeneris> artrei: you shouldn't run it in the cases you don't need root access
[09:00] <rico129> alright i'm going to test this out, wish me luck guys!
[09:01] <TakeItEZ> suigeneris:biggest problem is to decide if you need or not, in most cases
[09:01] <artrei> suigeneris, TakeItEZ what's the bad thing that would come if i use sudo in every command?
[09:02] <TakeItEZ> artrei: you might break thing you woldn't break with limited user-permissions
[09:02] <suigeneris> artrei: you end up removing system files
[09:02] <suigeneris> might too
[09:02] <SolarisBoy> or improperly permissioning files whic hshould be owned by you
[09:02] <suigeneris> artrei: changing sudo permissions is the worst
[09:03] <suigeneris> believe me, I know. that happened to me
[09:03] <xkcd> Hi, I am using ubuntu 12.10 I am unable to connect to freenode IRC using chatzilla
[09:03] <xkcd> I asked the guys at #chatzilla on moznet IRC
[09:03] <xkcd> they asked me to run grep nameserver /run/resolvconf/interface/*` and `dig +trace chat.freenode.net`
[09:03] <xkcd> seeing the results they said your resolver is being dumb
[09:04] <rico129> well.. that didn't work.
[09:04] <xkcd> http://pastebin.com/Z0wcK5Ak
[09:04] <blue112> XD
[09:04] <xkcd> these are the results
[09:04] <xkcd> told me to ask over here
[09:04] <TakeItEZ>  xkcd try "sudo sed -ri 's/(127.0.*)/8.8.8.8\nnameserver \1/' /etc/resolv.conf" and connect, does it work then?
[09:04]  * suigeneris shakes fist at those who ban pastebin.com
[09:04] <SolarisBoy> your resolver is localhost.... bust that can be normal...
[09:05] <suigeneris> SolarisBoy: beginning 12.04, resolver is localhost
[09:05] <vjacob> hiya. what' the deal with running 3.2.37, but having only installed packages for 3.2.0-37 ?
[09:05] <suigeneris> I don't know why
[09:05] <SolarisBoy> suigeneris: i know
[09:05] <SolarisBoy> it caching
[09:05] <vjacob> my linux kernel says it's newer than the packages that I have installed running uname.
[09:05] <rico129> looks like I can't play dota 2 on ubuntu
[09:05] <xkcd> TakeItEZ: Nope its not working
[09:06] <Ben64> vjacob: what does uname -a say
[09:06] <SolarisBoy> the dnsmasq is using your upstream DNS servers suigeneris
[09:06] <vjacob> Ben64, 3.2.37 #1
[09:06] <Ben64> vjacob: no, paste the whole line
[09:06] <histo> rico129: What didn't work?
[09:06] <ikonia> vjacob: you have updated your kernel, and not rebooted for it to become live, most probably
[09:06] <vjacob> I can't. It's on another system
[09:06] <blue112> xkcd, but you are currently on freenode using chatzilla...
[09:06] <ikonia> vjacob: then copy it
[09:06] <vjacob> ikonia, ah, that may be
[09:06] <Ben64> vjacob: then read it better
[09:06] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: frist ping 8.8.8.8 and ensure you can reach systems fine on the net
[09:06] <vjacob> funny that
[09:06] <Ben64> Linux ben64 3.2.0-38-generic #61-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 19 12:18:21 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:06] <vjacob> Ben64: chill dude
[09:06] <Ben64> notice the 0 before the 38
[09:07] <SolarisBoy> or in fact xkcd try to resolve against a DNS using that same dig line - remove +trace you don't need it also
[09:07] <vjacob> I can read.
[09:07] <vjacob> it says 3.2.37
[09:07] <ikonia> vjacob: is that exactly what it says ?
[09:07] <vjacob> ikonia, hold on there. i'm rebooting
[09:07] <ikonia> that's not an ubuntu kernel
[09:07] <rico129> histo: I installed wine, then windows mozilla on it, downloaded steam, logged in, and downloaded dota 2, launched it and resolution dropped- one monitor cut out, and could only see my desktop at low res, but hear ingame music. had to reboot.
[09:08] <xkcd> now it seems to be working
[09:08] <SolarisBoy> heh
[09:08] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: you should find out about your setup
[09:08] <xkcd> I dont know how after I pinged 8.8.8.8 I guess
[09:09] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: it may work because you just put an internet dns server into resolv.conf - pinging it won't enable it
[09:09] <SolarisBoy> if you removed trace thats what did it -
[09:09] <SolarisBoy> not everyone lets you recursively query their dns -
[09:09] <vjacob> ikonia: that may be. Although I don't remember compiling and installing another.
[09:09] <vjacob> ikonia, boot problem
[09:10] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: you should really figure out what broke it initially though - because without a small adjustment - your system won't persist that little dns change you made on a reboot - =)
[09:10] <vjacob> ikonia: This is the line in grub: "Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.37"
[09:10] <vjacob> no other kernel alternative
[09:10] <histo> rico129: They make steam for linux
[09:10] <ikonia> vjacob is this a vps ?
[09:11] <vjacob> don't know what a vps is
[09:11] <ikonia> vjacob: is this your physical machine ?
[09:11] <rico129> histo: I don't think dota 2 is available for steam linux. I'll check right now though. would be nice
[09:11] <vjacob> I just did apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[09:11] <ikonia> vjacob: is it in a data center ?
[09:11] <vjacob> ikonia: no
[09:11] <vjacob> this is a physical machine
[09:11] <histo> rico129: if not you'll have to check wine's appdb to see if dota or whatever game is working
[09:11] <histo> !appdb | rico129
[09:11] <ikonia> vjacob: can you see it - is it with you
[09:11] <Ben64> rico129: it should be working in the future
[09:11] <rico129> thanks histo
[09:11] <vjacob> ikonia, yes
[09:11] <rico129> Ben64: alright I'll just dual boot to play games.
[09:12] <vjacob> rescue mode doesn't let me access the encrypted disk
[09:12] <rico129> until then!
[09:12] <Ben64> rico129: wine works on many games
[09:12] <ikonia> vjacob: ok - so it sounds like you've made significant changes to that machine as that is not an ubuntu kernel
[09:12] <xkcd> SolarisBoy: Do you know method by which I can I find that out
[09:12] <vjacob> ikonia, I don't remember doing that honestly, in fact I'm regularly updating only to ubuntu kernels
[09:12] <ikonia> vjacob: ok - well someone has done a significant change to that machine.
[09:13] <vjacob> ikonia, that may be but I'd be surprised
[09:13] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: by default ubuntu runs network-manager - see if you have that running. use 'ps auxwwww|egrep network-manager'
[09:13] <rico129> found some info here on winehq
[09:13] <vjacob> ikonia: I don't understand, why isn't there an older kernel alternative in the boot menu?
[09:14] <ikonia> vjacob: probably because someones removed them when they put their own kernel in place.
[09:14] <Ben64> vjacob: pastebin "cat /etc/apt/sources.list* /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[09:14] <vjacob> Ben64: the machine is inaccessible
[09:14] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: in the output if present you will see a conf line like this '--conf-file=/var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf' type 'cat /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf' and whatever is present in "server=" is the actual dns you use
[09:14] <Ben64> vjacob: i thought you were just on it?
[09:14] <ikonia> Ben64: he rebooted
[09:14] <vjacob> no I rebooted on the suggestion of ikonia
[09:14] <xkcd> Okay
[09:14] <ikonia> I did no suggest you reboot
[09:15] <ikonia> vjacob: I did not suggest you reboot at all
[09:15] <Ben64> and it died upon reboot?
[09:15] <vjacob> [10:06]  <ikonia> vjacob: you have updated your kernel, and not rebooted for it to become live, most probably
[09:15] <SolarisBoy> doesn't sound like he said reboot
[09:15] <ikonia> vjacob: yes, where did I say reboot, I offered a possible suggestion
[09:15] <vjacob> fair enough, I guess I read too much into yoursuggestion
[09:15] <ikonia> vjacob: you then provided details that this was not an ubuntu kernel
[09:16] <vjacob> correct
[09:16] <Ben64> not sure what to suggest then
[09:16] <vjacob> (according to you)
[09:16] <ikonia> so rebooting at that stage....would not be wise.
[09:16] <ikonia> vjacob: can you boot from a livecd and get some package info for us
[09:16] <Ben64> there is disk encryption
[09:16] <v2zz> is there any tool in linux(ubuntu), that shows mount errors? don't offer /var/log
[09:17] <SolarisBoy> is the old kernel still available? - can you boot back into that?
[09:17] <xkcd> SolarisBoy: Its not returning anything
[09:17] <ikonia> of course there is.....as average home users need disk encryption on their root file system...
[09:17] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: then your not running network manager
[09:17] <vjacob> is there any way to continue a boot that interrupts upon trying to load iptables?
[09:17] <ikonia> vjacob: try to boot into single user mode
[09:17] <ikonia> vjacob: it won't bring up networking, so doesn't bring up iptables
[09:17] <vjacob> how?
[09:17] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: in which case - however your configuring your network - your dns is broken - or even your not properly configuring it -
[09:17] <ikonia> vjacob: append "single" to your boot line
[09:17] <vjacob> ok, trying
[09:18] <SolarisBoy> update-grub too
[09:18] <Ben64> v2zz: dmesg?
[09:18] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:18] <cristian_c> How can I switch audio from mono to stereo?
[09:18] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:19] <xkcd> SolarisBoy: But for this ps auxwwww|egrep network-manager I am getting some output which contained the the --conf-file you menstioned
[09:20] <rico129> any recommendations for a dock?
[09:20] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: oh and your saying that file is empty?
[09:20] <xkcd> yes
[09:21] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: do you have your interface configured for dhcp or static conf?
[09:21] <servvs> will the restore disk image in the "disks" program work with ntsf via usb?
[09:24] <xkcd> SolarisBoy:  which interface?? I didn't get you
[09:25] <vjacob> I added the 'single in the linux starting with 'linux...' using the emacs-editing of grub (1.99) and then hit Ctrl-x, as the bottom lines mention
[09:25] <vjacob> do I have to type something else before Ctrl-x? Doing the above didn't seem to make any difference after rebooting
[09:26] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: it looks like you may need to open the network-manager applet in the top menu and take a look at the setting for your default interface - usually eth0
[09:26] <vjacob> i.e. my line was "linux /vmlinuz-3.2.37 single root=/dev/mapper/machine-root ro"
[09:26] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: check to see if it's a static setting (you set the IP address and other fields manually) or if it's DHCP (it's auto configured when you get a network signal)
[09:27] <vjacob> trying now instead with 'single' on a separate line + ctrl-x
[09:27] <vjacob> not recognized
[09:27] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: single belongs after the ro
[09:27] <ikonia> vjacob: single should be the last option
[09:28] <vjacob> ah, thx
[09:28] <ikonia> %thedude_!*@*
[09:28] <ikonia> %*!*@95.169.240.46
[09:28] <jiltdil> vjacob, use init=/bin/bash instead of single perhabs will do the trick after getting the single user mode  do  mount -o remount, rw /  now done
[09:28] <ikonia> oops
[09:28] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:28] <ikonia> sorry
[09:28] <SolarisBoy> that was kind awesome =)
[09:29] <jiltdil> vjacob, append at the end of the line
[09:29] <xkcd> SolarisBoy: I am using ubuntu 12.10  it has no network-manager applet
[09:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone aware of a command to list all installed themes?
[09:29] <vjacob> jiltdil, that sounds like a neat idea
[09:29] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: what the heckles - hrmm i just tried nm-tool and i dont see any details about dhcp/static there - let me look around..
[09:29] <vjacob> trying ikonia's approach first then will try that too
[09:29] <zetheroo> is there a way to check that a Raid1 setup is functioning correctly?
[09:30] <ikonia> zetheroo: what type of raid, hardware/software/fake
[09:30] <jiltdil> vjacob,  Both is correct , if first will not work then try second, it is more when you have password protect single usermode
[09:30] <zetheroo> ikonia: It's setup during Ubuntu install ... so I am guessing it's software Raid!?
[09:30] <TakeItEZ> xkcd: ubuntu-12.10 has that applet in the top right
[09:30] <belgianguy> hi, I'm having glitches in my Unity desktop/Compiz, it seems as if an underlying terminal cursor is shining through
[09:30] <ikonia> zetheroo: cat /proc/mdstat
[09:31] <vjacob> adding 'single' after 'ro' on that line didn't seem to make any difference (still assuming only ctrl-x is necessary to press afterwards)
[09:31] <belgianguy> and I get whole black streaks of some sort of hazy terminal like view shining through
[09:31] <ikonia>  /mode -bbbbbb *!*@78.166.63.212  *!*@81-197-42-184.elisa-mobile.fi  *!*@ip24-251-168-64.ph.ph.cox.net *!*@host81-158-66-85.range81-158.btcentralplus.com
[09:32] <jiltdil> vjacob,  after adding you have to boot using ctrl+x of perhabs  hitting  "b"
[09:32] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: check this file /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf and see if the option prepend-name-servers is uncommented -
[09:32] <vjacob> jiltdil, I'm in
[09:32] <vjacob> your idea worked
[09:32] <zetheroo> ikonia: does this look ok ... ?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5607260/
[09:33] <vjacob> I'm surprised that 'single' wouldn't work
[09:33] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: how are you expected to check/configure network in 12.10 is there no alternate option??
[09:33] <ikonia> zetheroo: all fine
[09:33] <ikonia> zetheroo: it's rebuilding
[09:33] <SolarisBoy> i mean assuming you didn't know about using the terminal or so..
[09:33] <jiltdil> vjacob, yes it would be perhabs
[09:33] <zetheroo> ikonia: ok nice!
[09:33] <ikonia> zetheroo: your performance will be bad until the rebuild finishes
[09:34] <vjacob> jiltdil, what would be the obvious next step? :)
[09:34] <xkcd> SolarisBoy: , TakeItEZ  : I looked my present network's IPV4 settings it says Automatic DHCP
[09:34] <ikonia> zetheroo: this isn't an SSD is it (please say no)
[09:34] <zetheroo> ikonia: right - understood :)
[09:34] <jiltdil> vjacob, now do what you want ;)
[09:34] <zetheroo> ikonia: no ... why?
[09:34] <ikonia> zetheroo: that's fine, software raid mirroring wrecks them
[09:34] <vjacob> thanks btw ikonia for the observation that it's not a ubuntu kernel. is that based solely ont the kernel version? (12.04)
[09:34] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: ok
[09:34] <zetheroo> ikonia: ok .. good to know
[09:35] <xkcd> No it is not uncommented
[09:36] <vjacob> jiltdil, is /bin/bash not the default even without that line, and why would adding actually get me further than 'single' ? Are there other reasons than password protected single user mode?
[09:36] <vjacob> I don't think I have that enabled
[09:37] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: thats fine - i would open up network-manager applet and add a dns server to my IPv4 settings - your dhcp server may not be giving you one
[09:38] <vjacob> jiltdil, I have no idea what I want to do here to be honest, but I guess I will start looking around at the kernels
[09:38] <jiltdil> vjacob,  /bin/bash ask kernel to directly  give him bash
[09:38] <vjacob> seems strange. my /boot is empty, although my  /vmlinuz points to a kernel inside /boot
[09:38] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: if your comfortable with 8.8.8.8 you can add that -
[09:39] <vjacob> in other words, that overrides the (eventual) loading of bash, as it would normally have happened (after iptables, etc finished)
[09:39] <vjacob> even stranger (and why I originally joined this channel to ask about this):
[09:40] <xkcd> SolarisBoy: What is 8.8.8.8?
[09:40] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: i believe it's google public dns
[09:40] <vjacob> Linux vjacob-machine 3.2.37 #1 SMP Tue Feb 26 09:33:16 CET 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:40] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: thats the ip address the guy had you set your resolver to use also.. =)
[09:40] <vjacob> but my initrd.img and vmlinuz point to 3.2.0-38 and 3.2.0-37 kernels
[09:40] <vjacob> I so don't get this! :p
[09:41] <xkcd> SolarisBoy: :)
[09:41] <TakeItEZ> SolarisBoy: it is google-dns and ok for testing. for daily use ... better to use something really free
[09:41] <SolarisBoy> exactly
[09:41] <SolarisBoy> i was going to say that... eventually... but sometimes it gets contrived in places like this...
[09:42] <vjacob> ah, I need to load a separate boot partition of course.
[09:42] <TakeItEZ> google owns a CA now, so better to avoid using his dns
[09:42] <SolarisBoy> google also owns half of mountain view - haha
[09:43] <SolarisBoy> i like OpenDNS - but what i do is program my router to use those and i point my clients behind me router to my router - xkcd
[09:43] <moldy> hi
[09:44] <moldy> can i somehow use an ubuntu 12.10 box running unity to remotely display x11 apps from another machine (x11 forwarding)?
[09:44] <Seveas> moldy: yes, ssh -X that.other.machine
[09:44] <SolarisBoy> xkcd: in affect my clients still end up caching whatever they get on localhost - and it's been pretty reliable
[09:45] <SolarisBoy> moldy: ssh -n -q -X that.other.machine 'app' if you want to background the ssh process or make a shortcut or something -
[09:45] <SolarisBoy> and have keyless access - hah
[09:46] <SolarisBoy> *passwordless ;<
[09:46] <vjacob> jiltdil, if # update-grub fails after finding various images with the error "/var/log/lvm: mkdir failed: No such file or directory. File-based locking init failed. done" is that going to stop me from booting normally anyways?
[09:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone know of a way to not need to use a plaintext password in the .mailx config file?
[09:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> *.mailrc
[09:50] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: doesn't seem the option exists for those clients
[09:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: we meet again :P :/ dang, that sucks. I know you can do an md5 hash in the grub menu
[09:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> ban-hammer be strong :P
[09:51] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: i don't know mailx isn't a daemon maybe you can do something fancy before calling mailx to decrypt it on the fly -
[09:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: erm what. lol, I'm just a tut kiddie, not so innovative yet :P
[09:53] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: no clue - store as an encrtpyed string write it to a hidden file somewhere discreet call mailx to use that file if possible and then delete it on mailx exit?
[09:53] <rico129> whenever I stretch a window and at other times I hear crackling on my speakers.
[09:53] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: just freestyling right now =)
[09:53] <TakeItEZ> SolarisBoy: ntzrmtthihu777 don't forget to hide/encrypt the decrypting script too
[09:53] <SolarisBoy> word
[09:54] <SolarisBoy> OR - use a more suitable client for your needs -
[09:54] <TakeItEZ> 1st step, chmod 700 $HOME
[09:54] <zolidznake> hi scooby
[09:54] <SolarisBoy> alpine doesn't use plain text passes in files for instance -
[09:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: if you know of a better way to send email from terminal I am all ears
[09:55] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: ^
[09:55] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: i use alpine to send and receive mail on my system - if your just doing local sends with mailx it should work out the box
[09:55] <moldy> Seveas: i get "Can't open display:". i thought it was because the connecting machine has no x11 server running, but maybe i was mistaken?
[09:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> TakeItEZ: erm, not so knowledgable on the chmod ### codes, but would that not screw me over royally?
[09:56] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: no thats royally secure in fact
[09:56] <TakeItEZ> ntzrmtthihu777: it limits access to your home to you (and root)
[09:56] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: no ones should be in your $HOME but you - that first bit implies your user can get there -
[09:56] <SolarisBoy> ^^ and root =)
[09:57] <DJones> rico129: Probably a daft question (but something I've problems with) If you're using a wired mouse, its not the mouse cable knocking the speaker cable/connections, I get crackling caused by a loose connection on the jack plug connecting to the sound card
[09:57] <TakeItEZ> there is imo no valid reason for the 755 $HOME, nobody has to have access to a users file
[09:57] <SolarisBoy> word
[09:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> TakeItEZ: interesting, thankies. but on another level, it is just a nice placebo. no one comes to my house, and if they have my hdd then they can boot a live cd and still get my pw from .mailrc
[09:58] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: not if you encrypt your disk
[09:58] <rico129> DJones: Nope, but good to know!
[09:58] <TakeItEZ> ntzrmtthihu777: fde is the only mean against that
[09:58] <moldy> Seveas: never mind. x11forwarding was disabled. thanks :)
[09:58] <BeyROBOT> hi, hows it going
[09:58] <DJones> rico129: That was my only thought on that issue
[09:58] <TakeItEZ> or at leas encrypted homes
[09:58] <TakeItEZ> least
[09:59] <BeyROBOT> hi, hows it going
[09:59] <SolarisBoy> TakeItEZ: ntzrmtthihu777 and that exact point is why FDE is a great option to *use* despite whatever loss of performance you get which is generally minimal
[09:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: true, true. but quite frankly that's a bit much for me, I have seen too many folk in here locked out of their $HOME over that.
[09:59] <SolarisBoy> encrypted homes is nice - until someone wants to brute force your /etc/passwd and you find thats 'plain text'
[10:00] <SolarisBoy> TakeItEZ: no worries - well mailx is old and modeled after mail
[10:00] <SolarisBoy> it doesn't support anything other than plain text it seems =(
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> perhaps I could replace the pw with a function...
[10:00] <SolarisBoy> assuming it's interpreted as shell or something sure
[10:00] <SolarisBoy> if not you just broke the config -
[10:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> eh, I could always delete said function and re-insert the pw. maybe I can come up with something so complicated no-one but a super hacker/mathmatician could figure it.
[10:02] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: like i said if you make the password a string that you can decrypt with say openssl - it should be hard to get a little funky pipe one liner buried somewhere and hooked into your mailx command
[10:02] <SolarisBoy> said one liner should simply cat | decrypt | write ;  call mailx to use ; delete; exit
[10:02] <belgianguy> ugh, is there a way to revert from a (non PPA) AMD/ATI beta driver? Seems it's bringing more pain than gain
[10:03] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[10:03] <SolarisBoy> belgianguy: should be deleting the driver - then use ppa-purge to remove the ppa files
[10:03] <BeyROBOT> hi, hows it going
[10:03] <DJones> BeyROBOT: This is Ubuntu support, if you have an issue, feel free to ask it, if you want general chat please use /ubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <SolarisBoy> belgianguy: removing the driver package rather i should say -
[10:04] <belgianguy> SolarisBoy: through uninstall.sh ? would that be sufficient?
[10:04] <belgianguy> or would I need to reactivate the OSS driver as well?
[10:04] <SolarisBoy> belgianguy: preferably should be using apt to remove it
[10:04] <SolarisBoy> belgianguy: how did you *install* it?
[10:04] <belgianguy> SolarisBoy: manually :(
[10:04] <mrawesome_> hello
[10:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> belgianguy: ouch
[10:04] <belgianguy> from the AMD site
[10:04] <SolarisBoy> so where did the ppa business come in? belgianguy ?
[10:05] <dr_willis> if you used apt to install. use the apt tools to remove
[10:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> ppa = <3
[10:05] <belgianguy> SolarisBoy: it didn't, I said 'non ppa' as in "not from a PPA"
[10:05] <SolarisBoy> oh my bad lol
[10:05] <belgianguy> but I get black flashes
[10:05] <SolarisBoy> belgianguy: go to the AMD/ATI site and get the removal instructions
[10:05] <belgianguy> and it seems a tty cursor is flashing through the Unity/Compiz desktop
[10:05] <dr_willis> the .run drivers incluide an --uninstall option normally
[10:06] <SolarisBoy> ^ - but confirm it with the ATI README or whatever it should be available
[10:06] <belgianguy> and black tears as if my desktop was teared apart
[10:06] <SolarisBoy> ./<file>.run --help even
[10:06] <belgianguy> ah, k, thanks dr_willis and SolarisBoy , will investigate that first
[10:06] <SolarisBoy> sure.
[10:07] <rico129> just spent an hour trying to get a weather extension working.
[10:07] <selena2013> oo
[10:08] <selena2013> just installed new Gothic fonts
[10:08] <SolarisBoy> this is like twitter lol
[10:08] <selena2013> lol
[10:08] <Gyro54> Hi!
[10:08] <selena2013> is a big ubuntu twitter
[10:08] <BeyROBOT> hi, hows it going
[10:08] <rico129> hehe. Well the weather extension isn't working. I'm getting an overlay-scrollbar error
[10:08] <selena2013> whats going on ?
[10:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> rico129: then get rid of them :D
[10:09] <DJones> BeyROBOT: No need to say that every time you join the channel
[10:09] <selena2013> this Gothic fonts are kool
[10:09] <SolarisBoy> rico129: which package name?
[10:09] <s4ltness> !tweets pong pong pomme pommes
[10:09] <s4ltness> !uptime
[10:09] <Pie_Mage> Last restart: 4 Weeks 1 Day 9 Hours 14 Minutes 49 Seconds
[10:09] <tzarc> Windows7 Uptime: 4days 9hrs 8mins 25secs Best: 8wks 6days 23hrs 52mins 42secs
[10:09] <tzarc> Windows7 Uptime: 5wks 1day 2hrs 2mins 53secs Best: 5wks 1day 2hrs 2mins 53secs
[10:09] <SolarisBoy> rico129: are you using a default ubuntu install?
[10:09] <rico129> gnome-shell-extension-weather and i'm on gnome 3.6.2
[10:10] <DJones> tzarc: Please disable that uptime script
[10:10] <SolarisBoy> ahh gnome-shell =( im on unity sorry
[10:10] <rico129> SolarisBoy: I installed ubuntu 12.10 7 hours ago and followed a forum guide to remove unity and install gnome 3
[10:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> rico129: I use gnome-panel
[10:10] <rico129> gnome panel you say... i'll check it out right now ntzrmtthihu777
[10:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> rico129: whate exactly is the overlay scrollbar error?
[10:11] <s4ltness> !uptime
[10:11] <Pie_Mage> Last restart: 4 Weeks 1 Day 9 Hours 16 Minutes 7 Seconds
[10:11] <tzarc> Windows7 Uptime: 4days 9hrs 9mins 42secs Best: 8wks 6days 23hrs 52mins 42secs
[10:11] <tzarc> Windows7 Uptime: 5wks 1day 2hrs 4mins 10secs Best: 5wks 1day 2hrs 4mins 10secs
[10:11] <rico129> "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"
[10:11] <SolarisBoy> yea gnome-shell is a whole other beast still wrapping my head around unity configurations and so sorry rico129  =( probably can't help at all
[10:11] <vjacob> any grub-experts on chan?
[10:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> rico129: did you remove the overlay-scrollbars?
[10:11] <BeyROBOT>  Ubuntu is the best platform in the world! :P
[10:12] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: whats the problem your having?
[10:12] <BeyROBOT>  ahola!
[10:12] <rico129> I don't even remember...I may have ran a remove unity command that took it all to the void?
[10:12] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, not being able to update grub boot options
[10:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> rico129: I have never used said extension, and I have purged almost all of unity (I kept lightdm and unity-greeter because I like the purdy login screen)
[10:13] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: are you running update-grub after your changes? and what file are you changing?
[10:13] <vjacob> booting using init=/bin/bash ... # update-grub fails after finding various images with the error "/var/log/lvm: mkdir failed: No such file or directory. File-based locking init failed. done" is that going to stop me from booting normally anyways?
[10:13] <vjacob> not changing any file as such
[10:13] <selena2013> i have the ubuntu touch circle wallpaper installed
[10:13] <rico129> I just ran sudo apt.....overlay-scrollbar and it installed it.
[10:13] <selena2013> is freaking kool
[10:14] <rico129> ntzrmtthihu777: do you have a screenshot of your desktop?
[10:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> selena2013: the ubuntu-pie thing?
[10:14] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: ok
[10:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> rico129: not right now, But I can make one
[10:14] <selena2013> yea the same one they use for the phones and tablets
[10:14] <vjacob> just tried rebooting
[10:14] <selena2013> circle live wallpaper
[10:14] <rico129> would be interesting to see what others did
[10:14] <vjacob> none of the kernels that seemed to be added are listed
[10:14] <vjacob> but I got that error at the end too
[10:14] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: can you pastie the full error you get on update-grub - vjacom rebooting generally isn't a good fix for anything -
[10:14] <SolarisBoy> *vjacob
[10:15] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, can't paste, it's on another machine as such (no network)
[10:15] <vjacob> but that's more or less the whole line above
[10:15] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: silly question do you use lvm or use a seperate mount for /var ?
[10:16] <vjacob> lvm is used, since the main partition (besides /boot) is encrypted.
[10:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> rico129: http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5788/screenshotfrom201303120.png
[10:17] <vjacob> so two partitions in all, but wouldn't update-grub only be modifying /boot ?
[10:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> rico129: its nothing fancy, just some tweaks on an existing re-master of ubuntu.
[10:17] <SolarisBoy> alrighty so it's encrypted lvm -  when you are in the root shell - do you see all your lvm mounts present?
[10:17] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: ^
[10:17] <BeyROBOT>  ahola!
[10:17] <zetheroo> I have installed Ubuntu 12.04 server onto one of our servers for the third time in a row and each time after successful install, on the first reboot, I end up at "error: no such disk"  and  "grub rescue"!!
[10:17] <rico129> it's nifty looking, ntzrmtthihu777!
[10:18] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: sounds like grub is pointing to incorrect things -
[10:18] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: how are you installing?
[10:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> rico129: the background changes every 5 minutes
[10:18] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, I'd say yes
[10:18] <zetheroo> the frustrating this is that I performed the identical install on another identical server and there was no issue
[10:18] <vjacob> /dev/mapper/vjacob-machine  (mounted on /)
[10:18] <vjacob> /dev/sda1 (/boot)
[10:19] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: how am I installing? using an Ubuntu CD ...
[10:19] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: ok vjacob is /var/log/lvm present?
[10:19] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, not in the overview from "df"
[10:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> zetheroo: its not always an obvious question. I personally know of no less than 4 ways to install ubuntu
[10:19] <cristian_ginestr> ciao c'è qualkuno?
[10:19] <rico129> I just switched over from windows xp. everything looks amazing to me.
[10:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> !fr | cristian_ginestr
[10:20] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, /var/log is there, but there's no /var/log/lvm
[10:20] <rajeev> Can somebody help me into getting connected to wifi ? I have installed ubuntu & cant find 'Enable Wireless' to be checked condition
[10:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> rico129: windows xp, the last good windows in my opine.
[10:20] <vjacob> note that I'm overriding the normal startup process using "init=/bin/bash"
[10:20] <zetheroo> ntzrmtthihu777: well I am doing nothing out of the ordinary ... just a simple install with Raid1 ... and as I said this install worked without issue on an identical server using the same CD and the same steps
[10:20] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: strange i dont have it either
[10:21] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: in a normal run level i dont have that folder either - but anyway no worries
[10:21] <vjacob> right now I'm just glad I'm back in... thought everything was lost for second
[10:22] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: maybe make that directory and try 'update-grub' again ;>
[10:22] <vjacob> but how to get boot working normally again
[10:22] <SolarisBoy> couldn't hurt -
[10:22] <vjacob> ah it's /var/lock/lvm. sorry for the typo. do you have that?
[10:22] <zetheroo> so how do I fix this in Grub Rescue ... ?
[10:22] <vjacob> /var/lock -> /run/lock here
[10:22] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: what type of raid1? hw?
[10:23] <rico129> ntzrmtthihu777: i like xp, but it's time to move one!
[10:23] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: i knew that sounded weird... /var/log/lvm?
[10:23] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: software
[10:23] <vjacob> /var/lock/lvm
[10:23] <vjacob> there's no mention of /var/log/lvm at all
[10:23] <selena2013> ubuntu forever
[10:23] <vjacob> and there's no /run/lock
[10:24] <rico129> wow.. pushing 90 minutes trying to install this little weather extension. I should just reformat..
[10:24] <vjacob> so that's why there's no /run/lock/lvm I guess
[10:25] <JoFo> Hello
[10:25] <vjacob> adding '/run/lock/' and then '/run/lock/lvm' seems to allow update-grub to finish
[10:25] <rico129> hello JoFo
[10:25] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, thanks!
[10:25] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: /run is generally a tmpfs by the way =)
[10:26] <vjacob> what's the proper way to unmount everything cleanly at this point?
[10:26] <vjacob> reboot/hutdown don't seem to be allowed
[10:26] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: maybe it didn't get enabled due to your single user mode'ness - however you could have simply mounted it all the same and it should just appear and worked as well - but in that case of the latter its the proper way to do it
[10:26] <belgianguy> dr_willis SolarisBoy: so far, so good, uninstall --force was needed, but I still have a GUI :)
[10:26] <vjacob> ah
[10:27] <SolarisBoy> belgianguy: nice work
[10:27] <zetheroo> anyone with experience in grub rescue ?
[10:28] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: for your reference : 'mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /run/lock'
[10:28] <vjacob> zetheroo, wassup?
[10:28] <zetheroo> I have installed Ubuntu 12.04 server onto one of our servers for the third time in a row and each time after successful install, on the first reboot, I end up at "error: no such disk"  and  "grub rescue"
[10:28] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: or you can limit the size with -o size=<N>m - where m is a number of megabytes
[10:29] <SolarisBoy> *N =(
[10:29] <belgianguy> zetheroo: boot loader problem?
[10:29] <SolarisBoy> sounds like a can't find disk problem
[10:29] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, did that instead
[10:29] <zetheroo> belgianguy: I guess ... but I need help with Grub Rescue console
[10:30] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: sweet
[10:30] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, so how do I unmount my partitions as cleanly as possible?
[10:30] <vjacob> # umount ?
[10:30] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: why?
[10:30] <rajeev> Anybody can help with wifi driver install here ?
[10:30] <vjacob> to reboot  :)
[10:30] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: yes by the way - technically you shouldn't need to do that typing reboot does all that
[10:30] <vjacob> with one of the other kernels hopefully
[10:30] <vjacob> I get 'shutdown: Unable to shutdown system'
[10:31] <SolarisBoy> shutdown isn't sufficient
[10:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo shutdown, right?
[10:31] <vjacob> well I'm root already
[10:31] <ert3go> Hello, I am on ubuntu 12.04 and I want to install  libhighgui2.1 libcvaux2.1 libcv2.1 . When I do apt-get , i get "Couldn't find any package by regex 'libhighgui2.1'
[10:31] <ert3go> "
[10:31] <ert3go> How do I install them?
[10:31] <SolarisBoy> try 'shutdown -r now'
[10:31] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, same error
[10:32] <SolarisBoy> one sec...
[10:32] <sgo11> vjacob, 'sudo shutdown -h now' ?
[10:32] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: init 6
[10:32] <A_J> I require a little help in netwroking. I installed samba on my ubuntu pc and set a drive to share. this is what error i get when i try to access it on windows http://puu.sh/2gn0S
[10:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh yeah, forgot about the -h now
[10:33] <SolarisBoy> halt works and reboot doesn't?
[10:33] <SolarisBoy> weirdness
[10:34] <zamba> i want to set up a local file system over ftp.. what can i use for that?
[10:34] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, I just unmounted and hit ctrl+alt+del eventually. someone suggested as an alternative (next time): to remount,rw
[10:34] <A_J> I require a little help in netwroking. I installed samba on my ubuntu pc and set a drive to share. this is what error i get when i try to access it on windows http://puu.sh/2gn0S
[10:34] <zamba> kind of like for sshfs
[10:34] <vjacob> sorry remount,ro
[10:34] <dr_willis> zamba:  theres fuse ftp tools for that..
[10:34] <zamba> dr_willis: yeah.. but that?
[10:34] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: oh you said you wanted to reboot - not remount
[10:34] <dr_willis> zamba:  search the repos.. i donmt use ftp any more..
[10:34] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: mount -o remount,rw /
[10:34] <TheGrey> o/ how can I find out what driver I need from the repos? I have a Thinkpad T20 with a NVS 4200 Quadro card
[10:34] <dr_willis> ftpfuse perhaps.. fuseftp
[10:34] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, I did...but weirdly... I rebootedand the kernels that update-grub still don't show in the grub boot menu
[10:35] <dr_willis> i recall ther ebeing several
[10:35] <zetheroo> so nobody has any experience with grub rescue!?
[10:35] <vjacob> even though they were listed as being added running update-grub
[10:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> zetheroo: what are you trying to fix
[10:35] <vjacob> zetheroo, that error doesn't seem to ring any bells
[10:35] <zetheroo> ntzrmtthihu777: dude ... I have spelled out the issue more than once now ... :P
[10:36] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: when you break into a grub shell let me know
[10:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> zetheroo: but I have been doing other things, refresh me.
[10:36] <rajeev> zetheroo: Do you have any other operating system along side it ?
[10:36] <oskar-> zetheroo:  you can take a look at a grub configuration and try to put in the statements line by line. after loading some modules, you may be able to use tab completion. i suggest to look for the device.map or try grub-legacy.
[10:36] <user-01> hye
[10:36] <vjacob> zetheroo, what wa the last grub command or configuration change you performed?
[10:36] <zetheroo> ntzrmtthihu777: simple install with Raid1 -- install goes peachy ... then "error: no such disk" and I am at Grub Rescue prompt
[10:36] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: when your there - try to ls hd0 and use tabbing - cycle through the partitions and find your boot folder after with the tab completion
[10:37] <ert3go> can I get any help installing openCV2.1 in ubuntu?
[10:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm.
[10:37] <SolarisBoy> when you find it the right partition with /boot on it - change your grub to point to that drive
[10:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> zetheroo: no experience there
[10:37] <zetheroo> ok I found this ... might give it a try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1319581
[10:37] <SolarisBoy> oh - what i just said?
[10:37] <SolarisBoy> cool
[10:38] <higson> anybody here who can help me with USB, automount, /media/$LUSER changes in 12.10 ?
[10:38] <ert3go> Is downloading and extracting this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/opencv/2.1.0-7build1 tar.gz package the proper way
[10:38] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: when I do ls the first device is md0
[10:38] <belgianguy> anyone know if Ubuntu's gfx drivers are updated in its lifetime?
[10:38] <SolarisBoy> thtas because your using soft raid - thats expected id assume
[10:38] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: ^
[10:38] <belgianguy> or does that only happen when installing/upgrading?
[10:39] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: yeah ... so I am looking for a drive with a path to /boot .. correct?
[10:39] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, no errors now running # update-grub
[10:39] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: thats correct
[10:39] <zetheroo> ok will check
[10:39] <vjacob> but the supposedly added kernels still don't show upon boot
[10:39] <vjacob> any ideas why that might be?
[10:39] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: further your looking for your kernel and initramfs under there - you can use tab completion by the way
[10:39] <Darft> Fisk
[10:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> I'm out, later all.
[10:39] <vjacob> I've got 3.2.0-38-generic, 3.2.0-37-generic being added in addition to 3.2.37 but only 3.2.37 shows
[10:40] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: that is strange
[10:40] <vjacob> indeed.
[10:40] <rico129> All I had to do was restart my shell... wow.
[10:40] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: ok try this - are those files actually in /boot?
[10:40] <vjacob> they are
[10:40] <SolarisBoy> hrmm stranger
[10:41] <vjacob> well not so strange since update-grub is finding them
[10:41] <vjacob> and probably working somewhat
[10:41] <vjacob> what's stranger is that they aren't showing upon boot
[10:41] <vjacob> at least update-grub gives no errors
[10:41] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: are you confirming the grub file is actually changing pre-reboot?
[10:41] <vjacob> how?
[10:41] <TakeItEZ> vjacob: does "grep menuent /boot/grub/grub.cfg" list those extra kernels?
[10:42] <SolarisBoy> correct ^^ vjacob
[10:42] <SolarisBoy> check that file
[10:42] <vjacob> I get this: "The program 'grub' is currently not installed."
[10:42] <vjacob> heh
[10:42] <vjacob> wtf.
[10:42] <SolarisBoy> buahaha
[10:42] <SolarisBoy> but wait?
[10:42] <ert3go> Is downloading and extracting this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/opencv/2.1.0-7build1 tar.gz package the proper way to install openCV2.1 on ubuntu?
[10:42] <SolarisBoy> why would you get that?
[10:42] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: grep not grub
[10:42] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, I don't know. It says grub 1.99 when booting
[10:43] <vjacob> aha
[10:43] <vjacob> :)
[10:43] <SolarisBoy> lol
[10:43]  * vjacob needs my glasses
[10:43] <SolarisBoy> hehehe
[10:43] <vjacob> ok, get this... doing the grep (I have  used this command occasionally :)
[10:43] <vjacob> I get all the kernels I think
[10:44] <vjacob> 8 lines, including the two kernels I wanted added before
[10:44] <SolarisBoy> hrmmm ok ok ok how about this - do you have ALOT of kernels - to the point that you may need to scroll down to see them all at boot?
[10:44] <SolarisBoy> because i hope this isn't the issue..
[10:44] <vjacob> no, there are only 4 lines upon boot
[10:44] <TakeItEZ> vjacob: but those aren't shown in the boot-menu? i'd rewrite grub into mbr
[10:44] <vjacob> including 2 memtest
[10:44] <Fuzzles> how do i use the open source drivers?
[10:44] <vjacob> TakeItEZ, indeed...
[10:44] <Gyro54> is there a simple way to install a Sierra 320u 4g modem on Lubuntu 12.04?
[10:44] <vjacob> TakeItEZ, how?
[10:45] <SolarisBoy> grub-install probably
[10:45] <rico129> SolarisBoy: do you use Evolution for email?
[10:45] <dr_willis> Gyro54:  run the proper jockey-gtk or jockey-text tool and hopefully it can download any needed drivers
[10:45] <TakeItEZ> vjacob:sudo grub-install /dev/sda                   check man-page
[10:45] <Guest89472> hello folks, i have a question about usb modems and minicom in ubuntu 12.04...not sure if this is the right place to be asking though
[10:45] <SolarisBoy> rico129: no i use alpine
[10:46] <vjacob> is there any danger in doing both grub-isntall /dev/sda1 as well as grub-install /dev/sda ?
[10:46] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: one is not needed if you do the other
[10:46] <vjacob> aye
[10:46] <SolarisBoy> you really should be installing to the disk
[10:46] <Gyro54> dr_willis: What is jockey-gtk
[10:46] <vjacob> gotit. thanks a bunch TakeItEZ + SolarisBoy . *crosses fingers*
[10:46] <dr_willis> Gyro54:  the addational drivers helper tool
[10:46] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: np yw!
[10:46] <dr_willis> Gyro54:  look for addational drivers  in the menus
[10:47] <Gyro54> dr_willis: Thanks
[10:47] <Fuzzles> how do i remove additional drivers thats installed and go to the open source srivers
[10:48] <SolarisBoy> Fuzzles: turn them off in the additional driver applet
[10:48] <Fuzzles> SolarisBoy, will that remove the driver, how d i install the open source driver
[10:49] <SolarisBoy> Fuzzles: the open source driver should be there and set to your fall back once removed @noveau
[10:49] <Fuzzles> SolarisBoy, ok thanks
[10:49] <SolarisBoy> Fuzzles: it deactivates the driver - not sure how it handles removal it deactivates and activates noveau
[10:50] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, :( the grub boot list is the same as before
[10:50]  * SolarisBoy always spells that wrong and knows it 
[10:50] <vjacob> I wonder if it's because it's installed to /dev/sda1
[10:50] <vjacob> trying again doing it to that instead of /dev/sda
[10:50] <TakeItEZ> vjacob:sudo grub-install /dev/sda       MBR, not into a partitions
[10:50] <TakeItEZ> partition*
[10:50] <SolarisBoy> right
[10:50] <vjacob> TakeItEZ, I did that before
[10:50] <vjacob> TakeItEZ, no change.
[10:50] <Novus> good loard,.. never using this system ever again
[10:50] <Fuzzles> SolarisBoy, ill see what happens tring to get games working such as tf2
[10:50] <Novus> everytime
[10:51] <vjacob> Novus, what's going on?
[10:53] <Novus> everyfucking time I try ubuntu since 9.10 nothign but problems! What's going on? It seems canonical is more concerned about making fuckign cell phones then a decent OS that actually works when you install the fuckign thing! I'm sick of this shit, fuck Mark, Fuck canonical, I'm out!
[10:53] <vjacob> TakeItEZ, well my bad idea didn't work of course :/
[10:53] <vjacob> and the reason i... LVM I am guessing
[10:54] <vjacob> grub-etup warns about a partitionless disk
[10:54] <vjacob> hmm. out of ideas.
[10:54] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: ok I finally found /boot/grub on 'md/0,gpt1' ....
[10:54] <vjacob> # grub-install /dev/sda
[10:55] <vjacob> "Installation finished. No error reported."
[10:55] <dr_willis> Novus:  so do you hae an actual support question?
[10:55] <dr_willis> ;P
[10:55] <vjacob> why then aren't there other kernels showing upon boot?!
[10:55] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: now check your grub.cfg and see if thats actually the root which is set.
[10:55] <vjacob> maybe I should do that too
[10:55] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: is there a way I can boot from that device?
[10:55] <SolarisBoy> sure
[10:56] <vjacob> the menu entries are in grub.cfg
[10:56] <zetheroo> because it may be easier to fix stuff once in Ubuntu itself ... no!?
[10:56] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: besides how does one check a config file in the Grub rescue area!?
[10:56] <vjacob> I feel like moving out the 3.2.37 from /boot but it seems risky.
[10:57] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: type root=(md0,gpt1)
[10:57] <vjacob> and here I was... just wanting to use a new wireless USB NIC.
[10:57] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: I already did "set root=(md0,gpt1)"
[10:57]  * vjacob gets off soap box
[10:58] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: then do a 'kernel /boot/kernelfilename options' and then a initrd '/boot/initramfilename' and thena  'boot'
[10:59] <dr_willis> vjacob:  ive bought bout 4 usb dngles in the last 2 months - all worked out of the box. no issues
[11:00] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: is this one command? initrd '/boot/initramfilename'
[11:01] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: 'initrd /boot/initramfilename' yes
[11:02] <vjacob> dr_willis, thx for the info :)
[11:03] <vjacob> I got the Edimax EW-7811Un.
[11:03] <vjacob> since it was recommended for Raspberry Pi too
[11:04] <vjacob> but I digress. got them grub blues.
[11:04] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: maybe try a fsck ?
[11:04] <SolarisBoy> not saying that will work but it's pretty weird
[11:04] <vjacob> aye, trying
[11:05] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: when I try to do the kernel command I get unknown command 'kernel'
[11:05] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: oh my bad in grub2 it's linux instead of kernel
[11:05] <SolarisBoy> 'linux /boot/kernelaname options'
[11:06] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: I tried linux instead of kernel and its the same unknown command 'linux'
[11:06] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, I can't, it's encrypted and fsck.crypto_LUKS is not found
[11:06] <vjacob> (since / was unmounted)
[11:08] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: doesn't sound like your in grub1 or grub2 then.....
[11:09] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: no idea  ... all I did was install Ubuntu Server 12.04 on a brand new system ... ;)
[11:09] <vjacob> thanks for all your consideration.
[11:09] <vjacob> gonna take a break.
[11:09] <SolarisBoy> ok
[11:09] <vjacob> everything was working fine until this morning for a month.
[11:10] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: try it again from the set root= portion
[11:10] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: note that there are no qoutes in the actual commands.
[11:10] <rico129> bedtime. Thanks for the help everyone.
[11:11] <zetheroo> yeah I have tried it several times with no luck
[11:11] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, is it strange that 'grub' is not installed, while 'grub-install' and 'update-grub' is ?
[11:11] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: is grub2 installed?
[11:12] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: it seems more like a command-not-found blooper lol
[11:12] <vjacob> I don't think grub2 is installed
[11:12] <SolarisBoy> it should be..
[11:12] <SolarisBoy> if it's a default installation and all
[11:12] <vjacob> how can I check?
[11:13] <Ben64> dpkg -l | grep grub
[11:13] <vjacob> dpkg -i doesn't let me finish due to being on a read-only fs
[11:13] <SolarisBoy> dpkg -l 'grub*'
[11:13] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: did the remount rw not work for you?
[11:13] <oskar-> zetheroo:  why do you use gpt? i assume, your problems are caused by grub not well supporting gtp
[11:13] <oskar-> gpt
[11:14] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: it's dpkg -l for listing btw -i is for installing
[11:14] <SolarisBoy> listing should indeed by r/o
[11:14] <vjacob> I thought it was working, but hmm, not sure
[11:14] <zetheroo> oskar-: yeah you are probably right ..... but like I said .... this is just a simple Ubuntu install with RAID1 ... I did not try anything funny
[11:14] <zetheroo> oskar-: so why it's using gpt I have no clue
[11:14] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: easy to tell after you do it type 'mount' and observe the line correlating to your / mount point you will see if it's currently ro or rw
[11:15] <oskar-> zetheroo:  is the disk size above 2 tb?
[11:15] <zetheroo> oskar-: the RAID1 on which Ubuntu is installed is comprised of 2 x 1TB HDD's
[11:15] <vjacob> ok, it looks like it's rw, but I actually don't see mention of /.
[11:15] <SolarisBoy> but it's a mirror so it's 1TB
[11:16] <zetheroo> oskar-: there are also 2 x 3TB HDD's in the machine untouched
[11:16] <vjacob> I see mentioned: /proc, /sys, /sys/fs/fuse/connections, /sys/kernel/debug + ecurity /dev /dev /pts /run/lock /run/shm /run/lock
[11:16] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: but they aren't a part of the md0 right?
[11:16] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: right - only the 2 x 1TB HDD's
[11:16] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: heh ok
[11:16] <oskar-> zetheroo:  maybe the installer is guessing to better use gpt because of their existence
[11:17] <vjacob> 'grub*' ?
[11:17] <SolarisBoy> zetheroo: oskar- does have a point however - usually i see the labels as msdos partitions in grub
[11:17] <SolarisBoy> not gpt*
[11:17] <zetheroo>  oskar-: no, I tried the Ubuntu install without the 2 x 3TB HDD's in there and it was the same issue
[11:18] <SolarisBoy> is there previous labeling on he disks though?
[11:18] <vjacob> #dpkg -l 'grub*'
[11:19] <vjacob> un   grub
[11:19] <vjacob> un  grub2
[11:19] <vjacob> ii   grub-common
[11:19] <vjacob> ii   grub-coreboot
[11:19] <SolarisBoy> uh  oh
[11:19] <vjacob> ii   grub-gfxpayloa
[11:19] <vjacob> ii   grub-pc
[11:19] <vjacob> ii   grub-pc-bin
[11:19] <zetheroo> SolarisBoy: what do you mean?
[11:20] <SolarisBoy> im wondering why it's using gpt.
[11:20] <vjacob> ii   grub2-common
[11:20] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: use pastebin in the future for long output.
[11:20] <vjacob> sorry
[11:20] <psakrii> any pointers for creating debian packages for web applications ?
[11:20] <SolarisBoy> fine with me =)
[11:21] <vjacob> so it looks like grub _is_ installed (version 2) for PC/BIOS
[11:21] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: why would you need to debian package a *web app*?
[11:21] <oskar-> zetheroo:  do you have any uefi stuff in the mainboard activated? i don't know much about uefi/gpt, except that it is somehow related
[11:21] <vjacob> at least grub-pc and grub-pc-bin. I assume that 'grub' and 'grub2' are not necessary.
[11:21] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: possible
[11:22] <zetheroo>  oskar-: very possibly ... should I disable it if it's enabled
[11:22] <SolarisBoy> grub is deprecated - i thought grub2 was default
[11:22] <PrincessLuna> How can I right click with a touchscreen?
[11:22] <psakrii> SolarisBoy: it would be easy for setting up the web app on local or staging servers
[11:22] <zetheroo>  oskar-: actually I am certain there is something liek that enabled
[11:22] <oskar-> zetheroo:  you could try it, and then ubuntu might not get the idea to use gpt
[11:22] <zetheroo>  oskar-: should I disable it and reinstall Ubuntu?
[11:22] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: so you want to package the application code?
[11:22] <vjacob> well I don't remember diverging form the defaults, and I've only ever been suggested to install grub-pc/grub-pc-bin. no mention of grub2 missing before
[11:22] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: what does the application run in?
[11:22] <vjacob> but I can't rule out that my system has been tampered with.
[11:22] <zetheroo>  oskar-: ok ... but should I reinstall Ubuntu as well ?
[11:23] <psakrii> SolarisBoy: its runs on PHP
[11:23] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: use git
[11:23] <oskar-> zetheroo:  depends on your decision, how much time you want to invest to get the current installation working...
[11:24] <WhiteHippo> Hi all. I have an issue with ubuntu 12.10/cinnamon/banshee. my taskbar turns all pixelated where the icons are supposed to be after a few hours of having banshee running.
[11:24] <WhiteHippo> ideas ?
[11:24] <WhiteHippo> and also my text is all grey. is that normal ?
[11:24] <Ben64> we can't help you with cinnamon :(
[11:24] <psakrii> SolarisBoy: that would be for version controlling i m talking about setting up the web app along with dependencies
[11:24] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: no - that would be for deploying to your web root -
[11:24] <WhiteHippo> can you point me to someplace with cinnamon help Ben64?
[11:24] <oskar-> zetheroo:  with uefi/gpt disabled and normal dos partitions a new installation should work out of the box
[11:24] <Touhou11> WhiteHippo: Try a less buggy DE, like XFCE
[11:25] <WhiteHippo> DE = ?
[11:25] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: use submodules - generally people package binary executables - not simply the web files that compile a web app - so im just saying using git and submodules you can pull the app easily (local/dev) and deploy it in the same hand
[11:25] <Ben64> WhiteHippo: i dunno, check the cinnamon website?
[11:25] <WhiteHippo> XFCE = ? (sorry. ubuntu noob)
[11:25] <WhiteHippo> ah. ill do that.
[11:25] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: but if your intent on having a debian package it's really nto hard at all to unwrap some files to a location - would be a pretty shallow package though -
[11:26] <psakrii> SolarisBoy: hmmm ok cool any specific reason why only binary executables are packaged
[11:26] <psakrii> ?
[11:26] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: i didn't say *only* i said generally - because thats how packages are delivered - your talking a web app
[11:27] <oskar-> zetheroo:  and for array created from the bigger disks you could simply use no partitions, but instead create a LVM physical volume directly on top of it
[11:27] <oskar-> +the
[11:27] <SolarisBoy> it's code in files under a WEB_ROOT - people generally use git - or whatever to control what appears there - in the same hand a git clone to a WEB_ROOT of a working PHP app - is in turn - deploying it.
[11:27] <Touhou11> It matters more with web software to have the latest stable version, because of security issues. So it's not a good idea to use old versions in repositories
[11:27] <TakeItEZ> psakrii: there are also packages for stuff like wordpress, drupal etc
[11:28] <SolarisBoy> which i was going to mention - if your intent on having something like this - take a look at how they do those ones which are generally a copy of files to a location -
[11:28] <SolarisBoy> BUT they generally also setup a web conf for apache and bounce the web server as well -
[11:28] <ludwig_> ok so when i have a folder on my desktop with a python application inside, i can double click it and have it run. When i put the same folder in my home folder, when i double click the applicaiton it opens as a text fire.. i dont see any options in the right click menu.. how can i get it working there?
[11:28] <swulf--> I just got ubuntu installed on my Macbook pro, and the damn function ('fn') key is where the control key *ought* to be :)  Can anyone point in a direction to do something similar to this ( http://www.technobuffalo.com/2011/02/04/macbook-fn-key-as-control-oh-yes/ ) ?
[11:29] <psakrii> SolarisBoy: ok coo
[11:30] <dawkirst> hi, what is the /opt directory for?
[11:30] <psakrii> l
[11:30] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: you can do that debian package thing but if your developing trust me - git is easier - think code changes... do you want developers to have to reinstall myapp-deb-package on each code change or do a git pull?
[11:30] <Seveas> dawkirst: 3rp party software installed with another mechanism than .deb files
[11:31] <psakrii> SolarisBoy: Git pull will only update the code rite but will not update the dependencies
[11:31] <dawkirst> Seveas, ok...so this tutorial is misleading? http://www.technoreply.com/how-to-install-sublime-text-2-on-ubuntu-12-04-unity/
[11:31] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: it depends on what you consider dependancies and how your "dependancies" are tied into your repo
[11:31] <zetheroo> I cannot find where to disable UEFI in the server BIOS
[11:32] <psakrii> TakeItEZ: thanks i was talking about packaging  web app like deb packages
[11:32] <zetheroo>  oskar-: I cannot find where to disable UEFI in the server BIOS
[11:32] <ludwig_> ok so when i have a folder on my desktop with a python application inside, i can double click it and have it run. When i put the same folder in my home folder, when i double click the applicaiton it opens as a text fire.. i dont see any options in the right click menu.. how can i get it working there?
[11:32] <MakiAto> hi brothers
[11:32] <Seveas> yes. that symlink into /usr/bin is wrong, you could put it in /usr/local/bin (same for the desktop file, should go in /usr/local/share)
[11:32] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: EG if your dependancies is another set of code for instance maybe some python or something - maybe you want to make that a submodule - in where it's like a git repo within another git repo and with seperate versions - from there you can do things with hooks that git doesn't already do by default to manage deps
[11:33] <Seveas> dawkirst: /usr/local is for 'sysadmin installed local things'
[11:33] <dawkirst> Seveas, ok, thanks :)
[11:33] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: if you mean deps as in - it installs system based application components (like binary & library files) statefully on disk, no git does not do that
[11:33] <dawkirst> Seveas, the /opt reference is correct then, right?
[11:34] <psakrii> SolarisBoy: yes thats what i meant
[11:34] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: how many times does one need to install apache? and is it needed to install apache each time you deploy your application? maybe im getting a little too consulty =)...
[11:35] <Capprentice> what gnome themes are available for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:36] <SolarisBoy> thats my job but - yea - its up to you - seems clunky though - 'reinstall apache/redeploy code' vs 'git pull' on a system that _already_ has those things installed - unless it's required
[11:36] <psakrii> SolarisBoy: :) of course not apache need not be installed everytime. Debian can handle it rite if apache is not installed it shall install it else it will continue
[11:37] <Capprentice> Can anyone confirm whether Intel Linux Graphics installer works or not ? - https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intel-linux-graphics-installer
[11:37] <SolarisBoy> i would opt for telling my developers to already have system utilities to test/run web apps on their systems - and then enforce the git repo on them
[11:37] <Seveas> dawkirst: yeah
[11:38] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: in your case if thats what your bent on - it sounds like you would want to make a custom debian package with dependancies of it's own
[11:38] <Touhou11> I would avoid git if you can, there are many decent SCMs out there
[11:38] <Seveas> git is a decent scm, it's great even :)
[11:38] <psakrii> SolarisBoy: yes i want to try it out
[11:38] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: like TakeItEZ mentioned check out the drupal.deb file - you can unarchive it and look at it
[11:39] <psakrii> SolarisBoy: ok that should help !! thanks a lot
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <SolarisBoy> psakrii: grab it with 'apt-get download drupal'
[11:39] <SolarisBoy> Touhou11: git is the only decent scm
[11:39] <psakrii> SolarisBoy: Thanks
[11:40] <Touhou11> SolarisBoy: Hahahaha... my sides. It has the most terrible interface known to man, pretty much broken by design. SCMs like Fossil or Mercurial are a million times better
[11:40] <SolarisBoy> interface is cli...
[11:41] <Touhou11> SolarisBoy: Yes, and it's incredibly obtuse to use.
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> Touhou11: this is unheard of in real world implementation - maybe at your house lo
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> Touhou11: for the challenged sure =)
[11:41] <dak0> Hello guys anyone using wine here I got simple question ?
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> you didn't even name SVN or CVS are you actually serious?
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> mercurial? really?
[11:41]  * SolarisBoy dies
[11:41] <Touhou11> SolarisBoy: So it's intentionally difficult to use? Think about what you're saying. The same tasks in Fossil or Mercurial are much quicker to accomplish, you don't have to work around a ridiculous interface
[11:42] <SolarisBoy> who said it's difficult?
[11:42] <dak0> How do I run "As Administrator" in Wine ?
[11:42] <dr_willis> dak0:  here or #winehq
[11:42] <Touhou11> SolarisBoy: Anyone who's used better alternatives...?
[11:42] <SolarisBoy> ok..
[11:42] <dak0> #winehq
[11:42] <SolarisBoy> 1) look at git web site and compare their docs to ANY other
[11:42] <SolarisBoy> 2) get real
[11:42] <ludwig_> ok so when i have a folder on my desktop with a python application inside, i can double click it and have it run. When i put the same folder in my home folder, when i double click the applicaiton it opens as a text fire.. i dont see any options in the right click menu.. how can i get it working there?
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> 3) git commands are a summary of 2 things git and an action
[11:43] <dak0> Thank you dr_willis
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> git pull, git init, git push, whats hard?
[11:43] <dr_willis> Got ontopic.    :-P
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> oh blah
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> im done with this foolishness anyhow.
[11:43] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:43] <Seveas> ludwig_: what's the output of this command: ls -la /home/yourname/path/to/the/python/thing
[11:43] <Touhou11> SolarisBoy: Clearly you've only used SCM in the most simple fashion if that's what you would struggle with
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> dude i run SCM sites larger than your company - stop please
[11:44] <Touhou11> SolarisBoy: Sure you do... sure
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> bite me
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> says the mercurial genius
[11:44]  * SolarisBoy re-dies
[11:45] <Seveas> SolarisBoy: tonsofpcs behave. Just ignore each other if you don't get along.
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> ok Seveas
[11:45] <Seveas> Touhou11*
[11:45] <Seveas> sorry tonsofpcs, tab error :)
[11:45] <Touhou11> Doubt you've even tried out alternatives, too busy sucking Torvalds dick
[11:45] <Seveas> Touhou11: stop. right now.
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> sensitive a tad?
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> git isn't even gnu btw...
[11:46] <Seveas> SolarisBoy: stop it.
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> ok ok ok
[11:46] <Touhou11> !ot | SolarisBoy
[11:47] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, I got the boot working.
[11:47] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: noice! what did you do?
[11:47] <ludwig_> ls: cannot access -: No such file or directory
[11:47] <ludwig_> ls: cannot access la: No such file or directory
[11:47] <ludwig_> ls: cannot access /home/Printrun/pronterface.py: No such file or directory
[11:47] <vjacob> SolarisBoy, I don't know. I tried running # update-grub2
[11:47] <vjacob> but still not sure what made the menu option appear
[11:47] <Seveas> ludwig_: then spell it correctly....
[11:48] <dr_willis> ludwig_:  spell it right?  Use the tab key
[11:48] <rogier> Under Gnome 2 I could set a applet on the upper taskbar to chance the brightness of the backlight on my laptop screen. Is this still possible under gnome 3 classic?
[11:48] <vjacob> or where the kernel came from
[11:48] <dr_willis> !tab
[11:49] <SolarisBoy> vjacob: you know i was going to mention that at one point
[11:49] <SolarisBoy> lol glad you got it straigtened out !
[11:49] <vjacob> me too. a lot of work not going to waste on this account.
[11:49] <vjacob> thanks for sticking with it
[11:49] <SolarisBoy> np vjacob
[11:49] <vjacob> I might have lost my nerve otherwise.
[11:50] <SolarisBoy> and nerves are good to keep
[11:50] <ludwig_> idk.. i dont really understand this. Isn't there some way to fix this without persuing something more complicated than the problem itself?
[11:50] <SolarisBoy> when people tell me i have some nerve i smile
[11:52] <Seveas> ludwig_: hmm, could be possible in the gui too. Rightclick the file, go to permissions and make sure the execute permission is set
[11:52] <ludwig_> yes it is.
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> is your username Printrun? ludwig_
[11:57] <vjacob> you've got persistence.
[11:59] <user82> hello. i have a question about "fstrim". fstrim trims a huge amount of data when i run it every hour, is that normal?
[11:59] <ludwig_> username is ludwig
[12:00] <vjacob> heh. everything working or so it seemed. just ran ./install.sh once for my wireless USB adapter. ran it again, since I wasn't sure if it was all installed. after running it again, I notice that wireless access points are showing in the ubuntu network menu pulldown. then.... kernel panic!
[12:00] <vjacob> must be my lucky day.
[12:01] <dr_willis> What wireless has a install.sh?
[12:01] <vjacob> Edimax EW-7811Un
[12:02] <dr_willis> Not seen one of those. Mine are all plug and play...
[12:02] <vjacob> apparently it works out of the box on Linux Mint and another distro, but not on Ubuntu so far :)
[12:03] <dr_willis> Seems odd. Unless they just released a driver for it i guess.
[12:03] <ludwig_> ok i fixed it
[12:03] <dr_willis> Test it in 13.04
[12:03] <ludwig_> if you change the filetype to open with "home"  , it runs, rather than running it with some other application like a text editor
[12:11] <TakeItEZ> vjacob: 12.10 has the correct driver, check "modprobe -l rtl8192cu"
[12:11] <histo> vjacob: what chipset is the card?
[12:18] <_ultimate> i have two identical omnikey card readers installed on ubuntu after rebooting they get confused and i have to start swapping the ports around to get them to work again, can somebody help me lock the ids of the readers with udev or similar
[12:19] <SolarisBoy> _ultimate: do you know the kernel device names for each reader?
[12:21] <_ultimate> i think i can find that out
[12:21] <_ultimate> lsusb should list that am i correct
[12:22] <vjacob> TakeItEZ, ah.. I'm on 12.04.
[12:22] <vjacob> histo, rtl8192cu
[12:22] <vjacob> good to read about 12.10 though
[12:22] <SolarisBoy> _ultimate: somewhat you can probably match on the ID's if they are different with udev, do those readers create any sort of device path under /dev ?
[12:23] <one> back
[12:23] <_ultimate> SolarisBoy, how do i check that with udev
[12:23] <one> make me King as we move toward a one world order
[12:24] <one> Novus Ordo Domini
[12:24] <SolarisBoy> _ultimate: check your dmesg output and see if you can find the associated device(s) names that are under /dev - when you get them use udevadm info -a -n /dev/<device_name> to get the udev attributes
[12:24] <DJones> one: Stop the offtopic comments
[12:25] <one> DJones: no u
[12:25] <SolarisBoy> _ultimate: another thing you can do is run udevadm monitor while plugging something in and out of the reader - it should print the kernel names and any custom attributes you can match on
[12:27] <_ultimate> just looking
[12:29] <vjacob> TakeItEZ, the trick seems to be simple. 'make; make install; modprobe 8192cu'. it's working now. thanks for the help earlier.
[12:33] <vjacob> apart from that I had a few password authentication problems, but they appear to be solved now. not withstanding the antenna mode/password authentication mode.
[12:33] <TakeItEZ> vjacob: just remember you need to build it again, everytime your kernel gets updated
[12:37] <vjacob> aye, duly noted. thanks!
[12:37] <vjacob> guess I won't upgrade soon ;)
[12:40] <TakeItEZ> vjacob: i just checked my 12.04, it already has 8192cu too (3.2.0.24)
[12:41] <lattera> so I'm trying to find the src for glibc used in ubuntu 10.04
[12:41] <lattera> anyone know where I can find it?
[12:42] <SolarisBoy> lattera: try apt-get source <package_name>
[12:43] <lattera> nope, didn't work
[12:43] <_ultimate> SolarisBoy , they both show on dmesg
[12:44] <SolarisBoy> _ultimate: technically it sounds like your looking to set the cards with udev not the readers - so do you have something plugged into atleast 1?
[12:44] <nomad7611> Hi there I need help ! I' m new to ubuntu and I need to transfer my system wich is installed on a 16g USB drive to my newly installed HD ... can anybody help ? Am I at the right place to ask ?
[12:45] <SolarisBoy> lattera: seems that source package isn't available - if it's not included in something else you can search online for glibc-2.13-1 + source
[12:45] <_ultimate> yes SolarisBoy i can insert a card no problem
[12:46] <dkmt> hi~~~
[12:46] <SolarisBoy> _ultimate: once you insert a card get the /dev/<name> that gets created and run udevadm info -a -n /dev/<name>
[12:46] <vjacob> TakeItEZ, peculiar. I tried insmod 8192cu but it didn't work at the time. I now realise why: I was booted using that d.... 3.2.37 kernel
[12:47] <vjacob> anyway, it's good to know.
[12:47] <vjacob> thanks again :)
[12:47] <vjacob> cya, folks and thanks for supporting and making Ubuntu so pleasant!
[12:47] <SolarisBoy> _ultimate: pull it out and put it in the other slot and do the same action again - look at the attributes on each card & reader and create a rule using something from the reader to match on and something from the card to match on - make 2 rules like this for each reader/card
[12:47] <_ultimate> where can i search for the dev name
[12:48] <esing> #bash
[12:48] <SolarisBoy> _ultimate: it really depends on what your plugging in - but it should be in the end portion of the dmesg buffer now if you just plugged it in
[12:49] <keepguessing> hi I have configured system wide proxy and installed ubuntu-tweak. When i click on apps i cannot see anything there. i am using ubuntu 12.04
[12:49] <_ultimate> yes i can see the reader at the end of the dmesg
[12:49] <keepguessing> This is a fresh installation.
[12:50] <lattera> SolarisBoy: yeah, I've been searching (I'm looking for glibc-2.10-1 in Ubuntu 10.04)
[12:50] <_ultimate> which piece of information about the device will tell me its udev
[12:50] <lattera> can't find a single page that shows it
[12:50] <keepguessing> I tried running ubuntu-tweak with --debug flag but there is not error in it.
[12:50] <SolarisBoy> lattera: is it a storage device? is it automounted?
[12:50] <momin90909> Do anyone know alternative to MS Paint for Ubuntu
[12:50] <lattera> in fact, there is a page that lists all the glibc versions in each release, but for some reason 10.04 was skipped
[12:50] <momin90909> that is as simple
[12:51] <keepguessing> momin90909: gimp
[12:51] <SolarisBoy> lattera: LFS site probably has it
[12:51] <SolarisBoy> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.5/chapter06/glibc.html lattera
[12:51] <keepguessing> its not a alternative. its much better
[12:51] <lattera> SolarisBoy: thanks, but I'm looking for the one from Ubuntu, since Ubuntu heavily modifies software like glibc
[12:51] <SolarisBoy> truth
[12:51] <BluesKaj> momin90909, gnome paint
[12:52] <momin90909> @BluesKaj is it that simple
[12:52] <nomad7611> Can someone help me transfer my system installed on a usb stick to my newly installed HD ? please !
[12:52] <lesshaste> how can you take a screenshot of an entire web page?
[12:52] <lesshaste> that includes the part you would scroll down to
[12:52] <_ultimate> it shows me that the reader is connected to usb 2-1.5
[12:52] <BluesKaj> nomad7611, dunno look in the software center for a description
[12:53] <BluesKaj> momin90909, ^
[12:53] <SolarisBoy> lesshaste: they have browser plugins and stuff for that - haven't seen any system utility or built in feature though
[12:53] <momin90909> oh yes it is
[12:53] <SolarisBoy> lesshaste: you can save the web page as an html =)
[12:53] <dr_willis> nomad7611:  you can dd the USB onto the HD.
[12:53] <momin90909> Thanks very much
[12:53] <lesshaste> SolarisBoy, which plugins are you thinking of?
[12:53] <alocer> any one in iran pvt msg me plz :|
[12:54] <SolarisBoy> lesshaste: i forgot the names google it =)
[12:54] <SolarisBoy> lesshaste: full screen screen shot + chrome/firefox
[12:54] <nomad7611> dr_willis : thanks ... how do I do that ?
[12:54] <lesshaste> SolarisBoy, pdfit it seems
[12:55] <SolarisBoy> seems so if your running FF lesshaste give it a shot
[12:56] <dr_willis> nomad7611:  id use a second live USB. Boot it. Plug in os USB.   Then use dd with the right options
[12:56] <nomad7611> I ' m new to Ubuntu is dd a command line in terminal ?
[12:56] <SolarisBoy> you'll probably need to update your grub.cfg to point to the right disk
[12:57] <nomad7611> ok I get it thank you very much !
[12:57] <dr_willis> nomad7611: if you are new.. id just use the installer
[12:57] <torpet> hi, what is the best way to make a triple-booting win/ubuntu/anyotherlinux distro system?
[12:57] <dr_willis> And reinstall
[12:57] <torpet> actually i want to try out grub-efi, but i want this setup to be quite stable
[12:57] <torpet> should i still rely on the old bios-mbr?
[12:58] <dr_willis> torpet: that may be a good idea
[12:58] <SolarisBoy> torpet: create a new partition install the distro there and update grub
[12:58] <lesshaste> SolarisBoy, it's great! :)
[12:58] <lesshaste> SolarisBoy, only problem is that it saves an image but I can live with that
[12:58] <SolarisBoy> nice
[13:00] <nomad7611> dr_willis:  Yeah... you are probably right a fresh install would probably be more easy for me thank you for your advice !
[13:05] <_ultimate> are you still there solarisboy
[13:05] <SolarisBoy> yes but on the way out.
[13:05] <_ultimate> i have found the device with udevadm monitor
[13:06] <SolarisBoy> _ultimate: run udevadm info -a -n </dev/device_name> get the attributes and create a rule using the differing attributes on each card
[13:06] <SolarisBoy> i need to go sorry =( laterZ
[13:06] <_ultimate> ok
[13:08] <torpet> dr_willis: so you wouldn't recommend uefi for what i want?
[13:09] <zetheroo> well I am installing Ubuntu for the 5th time now on this server ... trying to find a method of install that will actually work!
[13:09] <zetheroo> I even tried installing with a manually created EFI partition and that was useless ...
[13:10] <zetheroo> this is extremely painful... :(
[13:11] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, suggest you ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:11] <everestt> what's the irc channel for 13.04?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1
[13:13] <lesshaste> how do you get acroread to remember your setting  (double sided for example)?
[13:16] <Abu> hey, i have a problem with latest ubuntu server edition, if i leave it on its own the screen goes black and it stops responding
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu_server|Abu, suggest you ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:17] <Abu> ah
[13:17] <Abu> :D
[13:18] <everestt> ubottu, thanks
[13:18] <everestt> >_>
[13:19] <denny> I want to connect to a PPTP VPN using Ubuntu 12.10 - what should I read?  I see a 'VPN Connections' sub-menu under my network applet, but it's empty - how do I add/configure a VPN connection?
[13:19] <everestt> ubottu, you passed my Turing test ;)
[13:20] <everestt> ubottu, why not?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> denny, see your vpn provider instructions.  then add the VPN and follow the wizard.  PPTP is one of the options ...
[13:20] <lesshaste> how can I print a large image over two pages?
[13:20] <denny> cfhowlett: expand 'add the vpn' please?
[13:20] <everestt> ubottu, repeating the same thing does not mean you are a bot... you're a human acting like a bot aren't you?
[13:20] <denny> where do I do that?
[13:20] <Pici> everestt: please stop.
[13:21] <everestt> Pici, ok :)
[13:21] <cfhowlett> denny, VPN connections > configure VPN > VPN > Add
[13:21] <denny> yeah, that's not there, as I said
[13:21] <denny> VPN Connections sub-menu is empty.
[13:21] <_ultimate> really struggling with this udev stuff
[13:21] <denny> it pops up a little grey box about 2 pixels high
[13:21] <denny> do I need to install something?
[13:21] <cfhowlett> denny,what version of ubuntu?
[13:21] <denny> 12.10
[13:22] <cfhowlett> denny, different from mine as I'm on 12.04 ubuntustudio.  Search your tab for "vpn"
[13:22] <denny> my tab?
[13:23] <denny> oh, is that a unity thing?  not running unity
[13:23] <denny> gnome classic
[13:23] <_ultimate> just want linux to lock two usb ports to two devices on start up
[13:23] <cfhowlett> denny, ask in the channel ... I haven't seen gnome in years ...
[13:24] <denny> can I not run the vpn whatever it is from the command-line?
[13:24] <denny> wizard
[13:25] <cfhowlett> denny, again, I've forgotten all that stuff.  re-ask you query.  it's doable, I'm just not the guy to advise you as to how.
[13:26] <gipzo> Hello. I have one program which is spamming to output. How can I make it stop doing this? Tried to >/dev/null, but then it consumes 146% of CPU. When I pipe it to the file it generate 1.4 gb in a 5 minutes...
[13:26]  * denny reboots into Unity
[13:27] <jrib> gipzo: what program?
[13:28] <gipzo> It is a server for zaagtech multitouch sensor...
[13:28] <gipzo> It's like driver for it
[13:30] <jangkr|k> denny: have you installed networkmanager-vpnc?
[13:30] <denny> jangkr|k: for a PPTP connection?  no
[13:31] <denny> I'm getting somewhere now though, looks like it was a gnome bug, menu options missing/not working
[13:31] <gipzo> when i start this server from terminal - it works fine, but when i start it in script like "zinFrameServer &" - it starts to spam
[13:32] <jrib> gipzo: what do you mean by "start this server from terminal"?
[13:32] <jangkr|k> vpn works fine on xfce
[13:32] <cfhowlett> jangkr|k, indeed it does
[13:33] <gipzo> jrib: i have ubuntu server, when i start it in one terminal, then switch to another and start my app - everything works fine
[13:33] <redtape-renegade> Gubuntu: !ping
[13:33] <gipzo> jrib: my application is starting in xinit
[13:34] <jrib> gipzo: I don't really understand exactly what you are doing... I'd suggest contacting the developers for the program
[13:36] <gipzo> hm...
[13:36] <gipzo> i'll try, but they are from china...
[13:37] <lesshaste>  is there some way of printing a pdf of an image over two pages?
[13:38] <cfhowlett> gipzo, you might want to use a different tool ... perhaps one that isn't developed in a country with its very own gov't funded computer espionage corps?
[13:39] <meowsus_> I have three NVidia driver options, the normal one and two that are marked as 304 and 310 experimental.
[13:39] <meowsus_> Are the experimental releases newer than the base driver?
[13:40] <keepguessing> hi i found the solution. its a problem with the ubuntu tweak 0.8.3 version. as it is not able to work without a proxy.
[13:43] <whatitis> finally got winblows fixed, some curropted memory.dmp? again?
[13:44] <Guest55361> How to install software
[13:44] <whatitis> what software?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> Guest55361, install software through the software center
[13:44] <whatitis> !software center
[13:44] <auronandace> !software | Guest55361
[13:44] <whatitis> xD
[13:45] <Guest55361> moonos ubuntu
[13:45] <bluntty> im running ubuntu 12.10 on my hp 620 and i get a graphical glitch at start up... could this be a driver thing?
[13:45] <Guest55361> i am new on it
[13:46] <whatitis> any luck with nvidia drivers yet?
[13:46] <bluntty> havent tried this is only 2nd day on linux
[13:46] <whatitis> welcome
[13:46] <bluntty> ty
[13:46] <lesshaste> how can I convert a pdf of an image to png without losing resolution?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> lesshaste, gimp MIGHT be able to do that ...
[13:47] <whatitis> there is one heck of a learning curve sometimes..but once you learn it, it seems restricting to go back to windows...
[13:47] <whatitis> a pdf is not an image but like  word document
[13:48] <whatitis> you'd have to extract the image from the file...usually referenced at a website or your harddrive?
[13:48] <Guest55361> when i go to install software an error occurred
[13:48] <whatitis> png and bmp's are close in quality...higher would be raw..
[13:49] <whatitis> what is the error?
[13:49] <cfhowlett> !details|Guest55361, what error
[13:49] <Guest55361> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wxwidgets2.8/libwxbase2.8-0_2.8.9.1-0ubuntu6_i386.deb
[13:49] <Guest55361>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.202 80]
[13:49] <Guest55361> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wxwidgets2.8/libwxgtk2.8-0_2.8.9.1-0ubuntu6_i386.deb
[13:49] <Guest55361>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.202 80]
[13:49] <Guest55361> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/filezilla/filezilla-common_3.2.2.1-1_all.deb
[13:49] <Guest55361>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.202 80]
[13:49] <FloodBot1> Guest55361: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:49] <Guest55361> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/filezilla/filezilla_3.2.2.1-1_i386.deb
[13:49] <whatitis> !pastebin
[13:49] <Guest55361>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.202 80]
[13:51] <whatitis> I am not sure my legacy nvidia cardsa are installed properly how do i do this in 12.04?
[13:56] <dudz> so this female who i'd like to sleep with, i built up a pc for her out of old components i had laying around, i'm just installing ubuntu on it now, comments?
[13:56] <whatitis> wth dude
[13:56] <DJones> dudz: The first part of that sentance wasn't necessary
[13:57] <cfhowlett> comment?  sure: this is tech support.  dating advice is elsewhere
[13:57] <dudz> just trying to put things into scope
[13:57] <cfhowlett> *tech support*
[13:57] <whatitis> if she doesn't have a bf just spend time with her, everything should fall into place
[13:57] <grenadecx-Ascend> lol.....
[13:57] <dudz> she lives to far away, i have met her before, i talk to her online mostly
[13:57] <whatitis> try to feel out if she hints at "i want the guy to do everything for me" thing
[13:58] <cfhowlett> !ot
[13:58] <whatitis> xD
[13:58] <grenadecx-Ascend> Lets rename #ubuntu to #dating
[13:58] <whatitis> but ubuntu would be an excellent start
[13:58] <dudz> lol
[13:58] <whatitis> lots of tutoring to do with it if she has the patienence and you can do it online as well
[13:58] <whatitis> you cn even collaborate here
[13:58] <dudz> yeah i just thought it was funny, i was going through the time trying to figure out what windows version she had already from her laptop to put that on, then i just thought why not just chuck ubuntu on it, i havn't tried 12.10 yet
[13:58] <Guest74335> hello. i'm tring to get secureboot working. I've installed on my 12.04.2 grub-efi-amd64-signed shim-signed and linux-signed-generic-lts-quantal. how can I setup now shim and grub signed? the installation script does not put them on the efi partition
[13:59] <Bangwhistle> there is a lot of great open source desktop managing software with features specific to managing desktops that you've built specifically to increasing your odds engaging in coitus
[13:59] <whatitis> ahahaha
[13:59] <dudz> :)
[13:59] <whatitis> do you kno if she is bi?
[13:59] <dudz> yeah she said she is
[14:00] <whatitis> haha wonderful
[14:00] <Poindexter_> Has anyone here used the new SeaGate 4Terabyte hard drive? What backwards non-compatible BIOS problems might there be. Any comments?
[14:00] <killer> how can i ssh into a ubuntu machine (at my home)
[14:00] <Bangwhistle> I wrote a special version of grep that you should check out dudz, it's called grope.  It's for searching a remote desktop for information that might increase your chances with this girl
[14:01] <dudz> nice
[14:01] <jrib> Bangwhistle: it's great that you are writing software, but this channel is just for support with ubuntu.  If you want to talk about your software, you can try #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:01] <Poindexter_> Lots of BIOS problems with anything more than 600 gigs of disk space.
[14:02] <jrib> !ssh | killer
[14:02] <akaariai> I am having annoying problem where USB keyboard drops a couple of first characters when I start typing. Maybe some sort of power management problem? I am using Ubuntu 12.04. Any pointers where to look for solution?
[14:03] <killer> jrib: do i need to open a specific port before sshing into a machine
[14:03] <Poindexter_> Akaariai, perhaps someone spilled liquid in the keyboard. That is a major problem these days.
[14:04] <jrib> killer: you need to install the openssh-server on the machine you want to ssh into.  Have you done that?  Whether you need to open ports, depends on whether you've closed them and your network setup
[14:04] <Poindexter_> Try another keyboard first.
[14:05] <Poindexter_> If the problem persists then set your default settings to another setting. Make sure that your keyboard is for the country you are in.
[14:07] <akaariai> Poindexter_: OK, will try those first.
[14:07] <Poindexter_> Try using another keyboard first.
[14:07] <Poindexter_> That should tell you everything.
[14:08] <akaariai> OK, will see if I can find one somewhere.
[14:09] <Poindexter_> If you have the same problem try two keyboards just to make sure that some donkey didn't spill some liquid on they keyboard.
[14:09] <DerJunge> Help! When I am trying to install ubuntu 12.4.2 via USB I keep getting this error message saying casper/vmlinuz is mizzing
[14:09] <DerJunge> *missing
[14:09] <Poindexter_> Liquid spilled on the keyboard creates errors.
[14:10] <Poindexter_> Also a bad cable or try another USB port to make sure.
[14:10] <cfhowlett> DerJunge, first run md5sum to verify the iso.  then boot the usb and run "check disk for erros"
[14:11] <Poindexter_> A USB port can go bad just like a bad cable.
[14:13] <DerJunge> md5sums are good and the usb is good
[14:15] <BeyROBOT>  ahola!
[14:15] <Neverworld-Hack> hay
[14:16] <Poindexter_> Greets Bey and Never.
[14:17] <jman074> need to install oracle java on ubuntu. how do i do this
[14:18] <BluesKaj> type oracle java into the software center search , jman074
[14:18] <jman074> i tried that. what about a terminal command
[14:20] <delinquentme> OK all ... IM trying to do some witchcraft here....
[14:20] <delinquentme> I need to make a ton of the same file ... with 1 var swapped out
[14:21] <delinquentme> should this be a shell script?
[14:22] <akaariai> Poindexter_: I found a cure - it was power management after all. Solved by "echo on > /sys/bus/usb/devices/7-1/power/control"
[14:22] <Laurenceb> hi, im trying to install latest gnu octave on ubuntu 10.04
[14:22] <KomiaPoika> hi
[14:22] <jrib> delinquentme: sure.  Sounds strange though
[14:22] <KomiaPoika> is the ubuntu 12.10 default interface gnome?
[14:22] <Laurenceb> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:octave/stable
[14:22] <Laurenceb> fails  gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect to host
[14:22] <Poindexter_> Akaariai, good show. Glad you are thinking right.
[14:23] <Neverworld-Hack> how do you use xchat
[14:23] <sianios> Hello, I want to check what ip accessed my webserver, is there any log file? and where can I find it? Running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[14:24] <Poindexter_> There are so many posibilities. Keep in mind that the hardware checks are first. I speak from experience. I have been working in the field for almost 55 years with Electronics and Electromechanical devices.
[14:24] <ejv> Neverworld-Hack: http://xchat.org/docs/
[14:24] <Neverworld-Hack> moonos-3
[14:24] <ejv> Neverworld-Hack: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[14:24] <jrib> sianios: /var/log/apache2/access.log usually
[14:24] <delinquentme> jrib, so I've got this https://gist.github.com/delinquentme/5143271
[14:24] <sianios> ok thanks
[14:25] <guigouz> ubuntu 12.04.2 (with the latest kernel) does not boot on a macbook pro with nvidia 320m if I load the nvidia driver
[14:25] <jrib> delinquentme: what language is this?
[14:25] <delinquentme> the iterate_vars need to be stuck into the file ..... now the only thing I'm worried about ... is  line 13 where I've got both kinds of quotes
[14:25] <ejv> i sense a question in there somewhere...
[14:25] <delinquentme> jrib,  ruby
[14:25] <jony> the folder icon of my mounted samba partition shows a lock
[14:26] <jony> and I'm only in read only mode, how can I change to full permission?
[14:26] <delinquentme> im generating the base files which are to be fleshed out individually later
[14:26] <jrib> delinquentme: ask #ruby for help with ruby.  I would just use sed for what you described originally.  But any language would be fine
[14:26] <jrib> delinquentme: or is this the file that you want to modify and make copies of?
[14:26] <ejv> jony: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch09.html
[14:27] <delinquentme> I was hoping to iterate through the vars in a linux shell util
[14:27] <delinquentme> and create that ruby file
[14:27] <Guest74335> how can I install nvidia-current on 12.04.2? it depends upon xserver-xorg-core
[14:27] <jrib> delinquentme: define "the vars"
[14:27] <delinquentme> citations covariates cultivars ensembles entities errors formats managements methods pfts priors sites species traits treatments users variables yields
[14:28] <jrib> delinquentme: is that what's inside the parentheses in your first line?
[14:28] <ejv> jony: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide is also quite a good reference
[14:28] <delinquentme> jrib, correct
[14:28] <jony> I have a Windows 7 share, I want to full access it in Ubuntu 12.04, I mounted like this: sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=jony,password=66918jony //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server
[14:28] <jony> but it mount only read-only
[14:28] <jrib> delinquentme: it seems weird to generate this.  Can't you do it "better" and avoid all this duplication?
[14:29] <jony> I want it writeable
[14:29] <kk0710> Hey guys, I am running ubuntu on my windows machine in a VM.  I set up ssh and it works locally but I want to be able to ssh into it from school.  I assume that setting up a dns server is the way to go?  If so what is the recommended site to use?
[14:29] <delinquentme> jrib you're right ... except other than these first tests ... alot of the code needs to be specified to each variable
[14:30] <huttan> kk0710: forward port 22 from ur home router to the computer with ssh, thats what u need =)
[14:30] <ejv> kk0710: dns has absolutely nothing to do with it, who told you that...
[14:30] <huttan> kk0710: dont matter if its virtual or not
[14:30] <delinquentme> so theres not much overlap ... IE all the files once created, will be running different code
[14:30] <kk0710> let me rephrase
[14:30] <kk0710> my public IP is dynamic
[14:31] <kk0710> I know I need to forward port 22 from router to machine, but need a way to access my public ip
[14:31] <ejv> !enter | kk0710
[14:31] <jrib> delinquentme: make some version of the file with XXX everywhere you want the variable to go.  Then you can do « for var in citations covariates cultivars ensembles ...; do sed "s/XXX/$var"; done ».  Is that what you were thinking of?
[14:31] <huttan> kk0710: sign up to dyndns or some other service that allows u to assign an easy host to ur IP
[14:31] <kk0710> Yah those whole 3 lines were so troublesome lol.
[14:31] <kk0710> Thank you huttan, sorry I didn't clarify my question previously
[14:32] <kk0710> Not sure dyndns is free though
[14:32] <ejv> The *good* consumer routers on the market include APIs to plug into _many_ DNS services including DynDNS, No-IP, FreeDNS, etc. that will perform updates *for* you.
[14:32] <huttan> kk0710: not sure havent used it for years ...
[14:33] <jrib> kk0710: pick any service that ddclient or inadyn support...
[14:33] <kk0710> huttan: yah it's not free.
[14:33] <ejv> As far as enter as punctuation, time to kick bad habits early.
[14:33] <huttan> kk0710: try one of the ones ejv wrote out
[14:35] <jrib> delinquentme: maybe add "/g" to the end of the regexp...
[14:35] <delinquentme> jrib, if you had to give one linux util which would give me a massive step in the direction of a 10x programmer
[14:36] <delinquentme> which util?
[14:36] <jrib> delinquentme: 10x programmer?  What is that?
[14:36] <huttan> delinquentme: what do you mean with that ?
[14:37] <delinquentme> huttan, jrib the famed concept of a really good programmer can be 10x as efficient as their peers
[14:37] <belgianguy> hi, I'm on 12.10 but I can't close my lid without the screen going black
[14:37] <delinquentme> I see this kind of meta programming as one of those tools
[14:37] <belgianguy> and I need to reboot
[14:38] <jrib> delinquentme: I don't know that such a thing exists.  But I suppose one piece of advice would be to pick a good text editor and learn it well (vim or emacs for example).  This kind of discussion would be more appropriate in #ubuntu-offtopic though; we can continue there if you want
[14:39] <huttan> delinquentme: if u wanna learn an efficient language, try ruby
[14:41] <karthik> harikuttan
[14:43] <BeyROBOT>  Ubuntu is the best platform in the world! :P
[14:44] <rrezon> how does a bot work ?
[14:44] <elijah> I am trying to run a script that invokes gnome-terminal, I would like to pass along an option to have "always on top" = true, so it stays on top during its short life. I see that gnome-terminal has a --geometry option. Is this the right option to tinker with to achieve this?
[14:45] <zolidznake> wich bot ?
[14:45] <rrezon> any bot !
[14:45] <zolidznake> what type of bot ?
[14:46] <jony> I try to mount my windows 7 share doing this: sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=jony,password=66918jony,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775 0 0 //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server
[14:46] <rrezon> i don't know i just heard that people use bots on IRC
[14:46] <zolidznake> :))
[14:46] <rrezon> what is this
[14:46] <jony> but it will mount only read-only, WHY? :(
[14:46] <zolidznake> it is a socket client wich connect to a IRC server
[14:46] <rrezon> am I a bot ?
[14:46]  * grenadecx-Ascend steals samba password
[14:46] <jony> correct command:  sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=jony,password=66918jony //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server
[14:46] <jony> but it will mount only read-only, WHY? :(
[14:47] <iceroot> jony: because the user "jony" does not have write-permission?
[14:47] <rrezon> is there any book or anything so I can learn more about IRC and irc bot and other services ?
[14:48] <zolidznake> you know programming ?
[14:48] <MakiAto> puppylinux is much better that ubuntu im switching
[14:48] <jony> but I executed this too: sudo chown jony /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server
[14:48] <rrezon> no nothing
[14:48] <MakiAto> puppylinux runs from ram
[14:48] <zolidznake> search over google ircbots for linux
[14:49] <MakiAto> like any good OS should be ruunned
[14:49] <rrezon> yes I will . thnx
[14:49] <jony> iceroot, but I executed this too: sudo chown jony /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server
[14:49] <iceroot> jony: and the smb.conf is the to writeable=yes for that share?
[14:50] <layan911> hi all
[14:50] <jony> iceroot, the share is made on a windows 7 pc, I want to mount that share in ubuntu 12.04 with full access
[14:50] <iceroot> jony: if you dont set it to "writeable = yes" or "read only = no" you have a read-only share
[14:51] <iceroot> jony: and the user jony has write-access on windows?
[14:51] <jony> yes
[14:51] <iceroot> jony: and we are talking about the same user? i bet one system is using the local user, the other system is using the domain-user
[14:51] <sonOfRa> If I open a drive via SSH in nautilus, it is possible to enter a path. If I enter /var/www, it works, but /var/www/ it does not. Is this a bug? Or are trailing slashes forbidden for a certain reason?
[14:51] <layan911> I developed a software (a simple shell script) for all Linux, if you use "Docky" this ShellScript add options to Docky
[14:51] <jman074> how do i download oracle java with terminal
[14:52] <MakiAto> !warn root
[14:52] <Raymond_R> Hi all, what is te best way for me to convert to 64bit from32? Is there anything I should be wary of?
[14:53] <jony> if I connect from the ubuntu's file manager, it asks me the username and password, and after entering it, it allows me to write in it too
[14:53] <jony> iceroot, if I connect from the ubuntu's file manager, it asks me the username and password, and after entering it, it allows me to write in it too
[14:55] <jony> iceroot, in the ubuntu's file manager there is a little lock on the mounted folder's icon
[14:55] <jony> iceroot, does it meen something in this issue?
[14:56] <jony> iceroot, and at owner it shows root and all of the other properties of the folder are disabled
[14:57] <Fuzzles> cant get steam working in 12.04 something abut open gl need upgrading and says something else
[14:57] <ejv> you want us to guess? really? lol
[14:57] <ee12155> #prog
[14:57] <ee12155> #prog
[14:57] <ee12155> #prog
[14:57] <FloodBot1> ee12155: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:57] <Claude_> hello there
[14:57] <jony> iceroot, my other mounting folders has the root owner too but they don't have the little lock on the icon
[14:57] <ee12155> #prog1
[14:58] <ee12110> ja ta
[14:58] <ee12110> manda-me as cenas
[14:58] <_ultimate> i am still having issues with trying to lock a usb device to a static port with udev or similar can anybody help
[14:58] <ee12155> carrega aí
[14:58] <ee12155> #prog1
[14:59] <ejv> !it
[14:59] <helmut_> hi
[15:00] <Claude_> i have a problem when booting ubunru server, i want to run mount -a automatically
[15:00] <jony> iceroot, please help me jony.dobrai@hanna.ro
[15:00] <jony> iceroot, I must leave now, thanks ahead!
[15:00] <ejv> Claude_: place the rules you want in /etc/fstab
[15:01] <c0ciub2mih2il> Hello, on a ubuntu 12.10, conky v 1.9.0  I have the following problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/conky/+bug/405340
[15:01] <c0ciub2mih2il> a screenshot http://imgbox.com/adi5oINB  Is it solvable?
[15:01] <Claude_> @ejv i placed in fstab but it is not mounting directly only when typing mount - a as root to work properly
[15:02] <ejv> there's probably an error then
[15:02] <jhutchins_wk> Claude_: What kind of device?
[15:03] <Claude_> @jhutchins_wk i have ubuntu server
[15:05] <Claude_> guys all i want is to run automatically mount -a when booting
[15:06] <ejv> Claude_: you could try writing your own upstart script, add it as a service
[15:06] <SharkMuttleworth> ejv: Don't you mean systemd? Upstart is deprecated
[15:07] <ejv> yea whatever Ubuntu calls it
[15:07] <_ultimate> i have two pcsc card readers and i want to lock each one to the usb port it is attached, does anyone know how
[15:07] <Claude_> sorry i am new to ubuntu, where i can find the upstart file to add my command ?
[15:07] <_ultimate> upstart file
[15:08] <_ultimate> as a normal user or root
[15:08] <_ultimate> "/etc/rc.local"
[15:08] <_ultimate> you can add commands to start programs on start there
[15:09] <_ultimate> but you can also use the startup programs application
[15:10] <_ultimate> Claude_ you can run "sudo nano /etc/rc.local"
[15:10] <_ultimate> or your can also use gedit if you want a more familiar text editor
[15:10] <_ultimate> depends on what ubuntu install you have
[15:11] <Claude_> i added my command (mount -a ) to /etc/rc.local but also it is not working when booting
[15:11] <k1l> Claude_: why mount -a?
[15:11] <k1l> Claude_: that happens every boot automaticaly
[15:12] <ejv> mount -a $WHAT?
[15:12] <ejv> -a, mount all filesystems in fstab, ok so why not just add the entry in fstab, since it's automatically read anyways...
[15:13] <_ultimate> i have two omnikey card readers and i want to lock each one to the usb port it is attached, does anyone know how
[15:13] <Claude_> yes"sudo mount -a " and that what makes my NAS IP written in fstab to be mounted
[15:13] <k1l> or he wants to mount some network stuff that is not available at that stage
[15:13] <_ultimate> i have been looking at udev and found the udev id but i am unsure where to go from there
[15:14] <holstein> _ultimate: what do you mean by "lock"?
[15:14] <_ultimate> holstein when i reboot the machine the two readers get confused so i have to unplug them and replug them and then they work again
[15:15] <Fuzzles> o my last install of ubuntu i installd grpahics driver from amd site worked fine till kernal updated and broke it how come this happened?
[15:15] <k1l> Fuzzles: that is the problem with "driver from site" why not use the driver from ubuntu repo?
[15:15] <holstein> _ultimate: i dont know if that is a port issue.. when you reboot with just one in at a time, does that work?
[15:15] <_ultimate> i want ubuntu to remember what is connected to each port after i reboot
[15:15] <_ultimate> yes it works fine holstein
[15:15] <ejv> Claude_: it sounds like you want to use smbfs or cifs-utils
[15:15] <_ultimate> it also works fine with debian
[15:16] <Fuzzles> k1l, because when i play a game with steam it askeds t update open gl
[15:16] <_ultimate> with both of them debian is fine, but i have found debian a bit sad lol
[15:16] <BLZbubba> hi guys, when I adjust the resolution and rotation in the Settings, where does it store that configuration info?
[15:16] <ejv> Claude_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[15:16] <holstein> Fuzzles: the kernel upgrade is what "broke" it.. you can either not upgrade the kernel, or just reinstall the drivers.. you choose to maintain your drivers manually when you install them manually
[15:16] <BLZbubba> for some reason it is stuck on Clockwise even though I need CCW
[15:16] <_ultimate> i remember doing this a long time ago but i cannot remember how i did it
[15:17] <Fuzzles> holstein, how do i do that when i i rebooted i just got a black screen so i couldnt reinstall it
[15:17] <holstein> Fuzzles: you can boot the older kernel and remove.. you can use tty to do it from the command line.. you can just boot the older kernel that is working and use that one
[15:17] <happyface> ก็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็
[15:17] <happyface> กิิิิิิิิิิิิิิิิิิิิ
[15:18] <k1l> !ot | happyface
[15:18] <Fashdey> Hey :) - I have ubuntu server ed. 12.10, I want to make a full backup (like image to install if system should break) anyone got a solution for that? (I do NOT have physical access to this machine)
[15:18] <ejv> Fashdey: man rsync, man dd
[15:18] <Fuzzles> holstein, i think i tried to boot the old one but it wouldnt, is there anyway to get steal wrking with the supported driver?
[15:19] <holstein> Fashdey: without physical access, just copy over what file you want/need..
[15:19] <fhedstrom> Is it possible to somehow configure an email account with exchange 2010?
[15:19] <Fashdey> Ejv, I will try to check them out :)
[15:20] <holstein> Fuzzles: you think? try for certain.. at boot time.. from the grum menu, under the older kernels menu.. you can remove whatever driver you installed by whatever method the creator suggests via TTY
[15:20] <holstein> fhedstrom: i would ask in an exchange support venue
[15:20] <Claude_> @ejv ok thanks for the link i will try that
[15:20] <Fashdey> holstein Also if I want to make a full backup, to just paste into a fresh installed ubuntu?
[15:21] <Fuzzles> holstein, i cant now i did i reinstall acouple of days ago, so your saying if i boot into the old kernal removed the driver and then booted back into the new kernal and reinstall the driver?
[15:21] <holstein> Fashdey: i would just copy my data, and put it back.. dd as ejv mentioned.. i use clonezilla when i do have access
[15:21] <lattera> yay, got the source to libc for ubuntu 10.04
[15:21] <lattera> after I install it, though, everything segfaults, heh
[15:22] <ejv> 10.04 is pretty old, why bother?
[15:22] <lattera> anyone know the proper steps to installing a custom glibc?
[15:22] <meLon> I am trying to get three monitors working with two Radeon HD 6950's.  I was planning on having two share an XScreen, and create a secondary X Screen for my third monitor.  My current issue is that my cursor gets trapped on my secondary x screen and was wondering if anybody would mind helping me diagnose what could be causing this issue. http://askubuntu.com/questions/261574/cursor-trapped-on-secondary-x-screen
[15:22] <lattera> ejv: a bug in llvm's interaction with the rtld
[15:22] <holstein> Fuzzles: im saying.. boot the older kernel. if it boots, the kernel upgrade is what "broke" the driver. you reinsatll the driver module into the newer kernel, or just use the older kernel, or remove the driver and use the one from the repos
[15:22] <gabkdlly> I am playing around with byobu, and I really like it. But when I open vim with multiple tabs, ctrl-pgdn does not work. Why?
[15:23] <ejv> you should use a more appropriate environment, perhaps gentoo and their overlay system if you're mucking about glibc
[15:23] <ejv> good luck to you
[15:23] <thek_> Question: How can I easily get the currently configured DNS servers from Network manager if I'm getting this information through DHCP?
[15:23] <lattera> I'd love to, but the bug is only reproducible under ubuntu 10.04
[15:23] <tgm4883> thek_, nm-tool
[15:24] <thek_> tgm4883 cool, thanks.
[15:24] <Fuzzles> holstein, how would i reinstall the driver in the new kernel, do i need to be booted in that kernel?
[15:25] <holstein> Fuzzles: you can use TTY, if you cant get into a graphical environment.. and just follow the procedure the creator suggests
[15:25] <irv> what's terminal command to allow encrypted dvds to play on ubuntu?
[15:25] <irv> 12.10
[15:25] <Fuzzles> holstein, whats tty
[15:25] <holstein> !tty | Fuzzles
[15:25] <holstein> !dvd | irv
[15:27] <cronus> lattera, why dont you use 10.04 then? (either in a vm or in chroot)
[15:27] <lattera> I am
[15:27] <lattera> but I need a non-stripped version of glibc
[15:28] <Fuzzles> holstein, ok ill go back to using the driver from their site and if i have this problem again ill try the tty like you said :) thanks learn something new every day
[15:28] <jrib> lattera: there are unstripped packages somewhere.  hold on
[15:28] <jrib> lattera: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[15:28] <holstein> Fuzzles: tty is just a text console where you can work from if you cant get to the desktop.. there is also the recovery console options at boot
[15:29] <Jinxed-> How can I migrate my entire setup exactly, but to a smaller harddrive safely and easily
[15:29] <DarthEaron> so i get prompted with tty1 when i log in and when i press CTRL + ALT + F7 its just gibberish to me, i tryed logging into tty1 and issuing "sudo service lightdm restart" but on only brings be back to the F7 thing. i think i should mention that this happened exactly after rebooting after installing the nvidia propriatary drivers...
[15:29] <cronus> lattera, you could check if there is a debug package glibc-dbg or something
[15:29] <holstein> Jinxed-: i use clonezilla
[15:29] <ee12155> #prog1
[15:29] <ee12155> #prog1
[15:29] <Jinxed-> holstein, clonezilla is fantastic but only if the destination drive is greater than or requal
[15:29] <irv> also, is there any way to get into a ubuntu install remotely by default?
[15:29] <irv> ssh? vnc?
[15:30] <holstein> Jinxed-: i shrink them clone
[15:30] <holstein> then*
[15:30] <irv> or an easy command i can give the end user to enable ssh/vnc?
[15:30] <DarthEaron> normally i would google this kind of thing but i cant luanch gui, also i tryed backing up xorg.conf and then restoring it from the old one then rebooting but nothing
[15:30] <holstein> i have my data backed up before starting
[15:30] <Jinxed-> holstein, you shrink your partitions then clone?
[15:30] <cronus> lattera, apt-get source might be a good way to get the code and build it yourself with debuild
[15:30] <Fuzzles> holstein, ye like a terminal where you can run commands, i tried the recovery console but could work it maybe next time ill have some idea
[15:31] <mrAlmond> join #lxde
[15:31] <mrAlmond> ops sorry
[15:31] <DarthEaron> anyone have any idea? or at least let me know were i can find help?
[15:31] <holstein> Jinxed-: correct
[15:31] <tgm4883> irv, wouldn't the end user still need to work our port forwarding and their public IP address?
[15:32] <holstein> DarthEaron: how are you failing to get to a GUI? can you get to tty? can you login as your user?
[15:32] <Fuzzles> holstein, actually now i thnk about it when it booted after updates it didnt go into unity it made me login to a black screen with text which sounds like the tty your on about right?
[15:32] <irv> tgm4883: it's a remote site for my work, i have a VPN connection there
[15:32] <irv> I can ping their workstation, but can't SSH
[15:32] <irv> or vnc heh
[15:32] <irv> so if i can give them a terminal command to type in to enable that, i can fix the rest of their issues without making the drive
[15:32] <tgm4883> irv, so for SSH, they would need to install the ssh server "sudo apt-get install ssh" should do it
[15:32] <irv> i just forgot to turn on ssh when i wasup there
[15:32] <irv> thx
[15:33] <DarthEaron> holstein: yes i can, im on the computer now using irc in tty1, tty7 shows like gui tryed to launch but didnt, when i boot ubuntu all i get is tty1, i tried sudo service start lightdm and stop and restart but does not work...
[15:34] <holstein> DarthEaron: startx might kick out some handy errors.. i would try renaming the xorg.conf.. i would try forcing vesa.. i would remove any drivers you recently installed.. i would try the graphics recovery option
[15:37] <DarthEaron> im trying to run startx after "sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.confBACK"
[15:37] <holstein> DarthEaron: and? any errors there? how about using the vesa driver in the xorg.conf?
[15:38] <plist> fffffffff
[15:39] <Gary> hello
[15:39] <DarthEaron> holstein: i dont know what you mean by vesa..like failsafe? i could copt the xorg.conf.failsafe to xorg.conf? oh also the error told me more information would be in /var/log/xorgsomething... cant i send that that file over IRC? instead of pasting in here?
[15:40] <tole> wenas1
[15:40] <lattera> cronus: thanks, I used `apt-get source` to fetch the source, I didn't know debuild existed
[15:40] <holstein> !paste | DarthEaron paste what you think would be relevant.. sometimes i go and change the "driver" option in the xorg.conf to "vesa".. where did you get this xorg.conf?
[15:40] <lattera> I'll try with debuild
[15:42] <DarthEaron> it basically says Failed to initilize the NVIDIA kernal module. then it just shows it unloading the nvidia module and one called wfb and one called fb
[15:43] <holstein> DarthEaron: where did you get the driver? the xorg.conf? from tty you can remove the driver you installed and boot the machine
[15:43] <jhutchins_wk> Cool!  aptitude update segfaulted!
[15:44] <jhutchins_wk> So did apt-get update - reading package lists... Error!
[15:44] <k1l> !away > dark3n
[15:44] <holstein> jhutchins_wk: i would run "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin the results
[15:45] <jhutchins_wk> holstein: Like I said, segfault.
[15:45] <holstein> jhutchins_wk: feel free and paste the error for myself and the other volunteers
[15:45] <DarthEaron> the original xorg came was eddited when i installed the new driver, the failsafe one is one that came on the system, i looked it uses vesa driver and it still gives same output on startx. how do i remove the driver i installed? i installed it with the "additional drivers" program...
[15:46] <pa3lo> hi all
[15:46] <jhutchins_wk> holstein: 10:44 < jhutchins_wk> So did apt-get update - reading package lists... Error!
[15:46] <alexsn> hey guys, I have an issue with unity where the top right icons vanish from sight after a new hours
[15:46] <holstein> !ati | DarthEaron you can read here and see if you can remove what you installed
[15:46] <s4lted> hi pirate party at #cisco
[15:46] <jhutchins_wk> Looks like it may be attempting to reboot now...
[15:46] <s4lted> join now
[15:46] <_ultimate> i have been reading online and i cannot find any more information about setting a specific device to s specific usb port, can anybody help me
[15:46] <alexsn> any idea how to debug / resolve this
[15:46] <SharkMuttleworth> alexsn: Unity is quite buggy... I suggest using a reliable interface like XFCE instead
[15:47] <holstein> jhutchins_wk: open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update" and paste the *exact* error.. you can copy paste it so myself and the other volunteers can see *exactly* what happens
[15:47] <jhutchins_wk> holstein: That IS the exact error.
[15:47] <DarthEaron> ubottu: im stuck in command line, i cant view that... the whole problem is that i have no gui
[15:47] <alexsn> any idea how to reset it?
[15:47] <holstein> jhutchins_wk: let use know after "it" finishes rebooting then..
[15:47] <holstein> us*
[15:47] <DarthEaron> is he really a bot?
[15:47] <Pici> Yes.
[15:48] <DarthEaron> thats awesome.
[15:48] <DarthEaron> so how can i remove the driver i installed?
[15:48] <holstein> DarthEaron: you can boot live, and run a desktop.. you can share what hardware you have, and someone can lok on the wiki and see what you might have installed.. you can search for nvidia
[15:48] <alexsn> ShadowStruck, any idea if I can reset it?
[15:48] <s4lted> hi pir4te p4rty at #cisco join now
[15:49] <jhutchins_wk> holstein: After (spontaneous)  reboot, aptitude update completed successfully
[15:49] <holstein> jhutchins_wk: might want to test the hardware then.. ram/hard drive.. just to be sure
[15:49] <DarthEaron> ahh...well i cant get that for in right now. my lunch break is over in about a half hour so ill just mess around on irc untill then. Thank you i really appriciate the help holstein
[15:49] <jhutchins_wk> holstein: Could be bad, it's an old GX280.
[15:50] <holstein> DarthEaron: you can use lspci | grep VGA to see what hardware you have
[15:52] <holstein> DarthEaron: could be as easy as removing nvidia-current .. sudo apt-get autoremove nvidia-current
[15:52] <DarthEaron> NVIDIA corperation GF119 [GeForce GT 520] rev a1
[15:52] <holstein> DarthEaron: i would run "sudo apt-get autoremove nvidia" and hit tab and see what autocompletes
[15:52] <DarthEaron> thats probably it bec uase it says its freening almost 200 mb with sounds right by how look it took to downlaod
[15:53] <Arithmos> "With a single, unifying force, [s]Linux[/s] Ubuntu might become a legitimate challenge to Windows/OSX. " LOL the troll of the year
[15:54] <DarthEaron> the log says someting about no screens found when i run startx now
[15:54] <DarthEaron> the log says someting about no screens found when i run startx now
[15:55] <holstein> !paste | DarthEaron
[15:55] <harrisr> what is the raspbian channel
[15:55] <_ultimate> i have found a site on udev rules http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[15:55] <holstein> !pastebinit | DarthEaron this can be handy if you are on a CLI and stuck
[15:56] <k1l> !alis | harrisr
[15:56] <harrisr> what?
[15:56] <_ultimate> i do not understand how to make a rule for my device though as they are not well known devices
[15:56] <DarthEaron> thats really usefull ubottu
[15:57] <holstein> harrisr: http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianIRC ..but this is not the place to ask for channel refferals
[15:57] <DarthEaron> holstein: okay so i got a really crapping gui now when i do startx, thanks man ill download the drivers straight from nviia this time now that i know exactly what card i have, thank you. i appriciate everyones help
[15:57] <DarthEaron> exit
[15:57] <holstein> DarthEaron: thats progress.. good luck!
[15:58] <troulouliou_dev> hi could anybody tell me where is mounted an ipad when plugged to ubuntu ?
[15:58] <troulouliou_dev> i do see it in nautilus
[15:58] <troulouliou_dev> but i don't see it in df -h
[15:58] <holstein> troulouliou_dev: i dont think the hardware mounts like a drive
[15:58] <troulouliou_dev> holstein, yeah it is a inode/folder ???
[15:58] <troulouliou_dev> in properties
[15:59] <_ultimate> need to smash usb ports!!! arggghh
[15:59] <holstein> troulouliou_dev: i dont have the hardware here, but if you question is "why is my ipad not mounting like a hard drive?".. im suggesting it doesnt have that funcitonality
[15:59] <troulouliou_dev> holstein, no i can not access the applicaitons files inside ipad' documents
[16:00] <holstein> troulouliou_dev: whats the error?
[16:00] <DarthEaron> awesome, i got the driver and installed and running without reboot that was awesome. oh by the way what happened to make ubuntu boot really fast? after bios i have a 6 second boot time and a 2 sec login time and a 3 sec powerdown time
[16:01] <pentestbrasil> helou...
[16:01] <troulouliou_dev> holstein, the folder content could not be diplayed ... unhandled Apple file control error
[16:01] <holstein> !grub | DarthEaron there are "wait" options there in grub
[16:02] <pentestbrasil> your Brazil
[16:03] <holstein> troulouliou_dev: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139295/how-can-i-edit-a-root-file-on-a-non-jailbroken-ipad https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+question/132583 helpful troulouliou_dev ?
[16:04] <VIkFreeze> hi
[16:04] <troulouliou_dev> holstein, think it is a bug in ubuntu in fact : http://libiphone.lighthouseapp.com/projects/27916/tickets/270-unhandled-apple-file-control-error-7-upon-attempting-to-open-app-folder
[16:05] <VIkFreeze> anyone familiar with setting up kerberos on 12.04?
[16:05] <holstein> troulouliou_dev: Meanwhile, if you don't mind using ifuse, then you won't have this problem and can mount your documents folder just fine every time.
[16:07] <troulouliou_dev> holstein, not installed
[16:07] <Scouse> Looking to install Ubuntu...will ubuntu 12 run on my old pc running Celeron 1.7Ghz processor with 400Mb ram ???
[16:08] <holstein> troulouliou_dev: thats just from that link you gave.. as a workaround.. i wouldnt wait around on fixes for iOS.. you never know how challenging those can be to fix/patch
[16:08] <holstein> Scouse: i would want more ram.. i would run lubuntu
[16:09] <k1l> Scouse: that is a real slow one. you should try the Lubuntu and i think with the 12.04
[16:09] <holstein> yeah, i agree about 12.04 as well ^^
[16:09] <SharkMuttleworth> Scouse: Try a more light-weight distribution like Arch Linux with a basic tiling Window Manager
[16:10] <Scouse> what is lubuntu...I have always run Windows but tried ubuntu a while back and liked it but dont want to alter OS on laptop. Looking for something that will run quicker on old pc for the kids
[16:10] <holstein> !lubuntu
[16:10] <k1l> SharkMuttleworth: that is the ubuntu support in here.
[16:11] <SharkMuttleworth> k1l: Yes, but Ubuntu really isn't good on old computers. Especially not with Unity
[16:11] <artrei> so i was using ubuntu and install lxde before i move to lubuntu entirely, i still have the lxde profile, can i delete this profile? or make lubuntu profile my default?
[16:12] <holstein> SharkMuttleworth: lubuntu is quite appropriate. you can invite Scouse to a PM, or the OT channel to discuss ot matters
[16:12] <k1l> SharkMuttleworth: thinking of your nick and  your comment on upstart i consider you stick to the guidelines in here. you have seen that there was a recommendation for Lubuntu.
[16:12] <troulouliou_dev> holstein, no idea how it is mounted ? gfvs commadn do not give any output
[16:13] <Scouse> Does Lubuntu look and feel like ubuntu?
[16:13] <holstein> troulouliou_dev: i dont have that device, so, correct. i have no idea how it is mounted.. if i needed to mount an ipad, i would try the workaround suggested..
[16:13] <artrei> Scouse, its actually more like windows
[16:13]  * figure002 is surprised to see Mark online
[16:14] <holstein> Scouse: lubuntu looks like lubuntu, and you can try it from a live CD
[16:15] <figure002> holstein: lubuntu looks like lubuntu? that's a shocker :P
[16:15] <troulouliou_dev> holstein,  ok
[16:16] <BluesKaj> BBL
[16:16] <Scouse> going to look at the website and youtube brb
[16:16] <PrincessLuna> How can I right click?
[16:17] <k1l> PrincessLuna: use the right mouse key?
[16:17] <artrei> click the button next to left click
[16:17] <SharkMuttleworth> PrincessLuna: Not yet a feature implemented in Linux
[16:17] <PrincessLuna> k1l: artrei SharkMuttleworth  Sorry I meant right click using a touchscreen
[16:18] <figure002> lol @ Mark
[16:18] <Seveas> SharkMuttleworth: please stay helpful in here. #ubuntu-offtopic is for random nonsense
[16:18] <k1l> PrincessLuna: which ubuntu, which device?
[16:18] <SharkMuttleworth> PrincessLuna: System preferences->Mouse, there's an option for a long press to count as right click
[16:19] <Scouse> #lubuntu
[16:19] <Scouse> how do i change rooms?
[16:19] <k1l> Scouse: /join #channelname
[16:20] <jali_f> scouse "/join #roomname"
[16:20] <philinux> Scouse: /j  channel
[16:20] <Scouse> thank you
[16:20] <jali_f> anyone have experience installing printers?
[16:20] <figure002> PrincessLuna: I actually prefer to enable two-finger-scroll from the mouse settings, then right-click is tapping with two fingers (MacOS style)
[16:21] <philinux> figure002: same here
[16:21] <PrincessLuna> SharkMuttleworth: I'm using KDE and there is no such option and even in Gnome, I believe that option only applies to the mouse
[16:22] <k1l> PrincessLuna: which ubuntu version= which device is it?
[16:22] <PrincessLuna> figure002: right click works like that with the touchpad but not the touch screen
[16:22] <figure002> jali_f: what is your problem?
[16:23] <PrincessLuna> k1l: 12.10 or 13.04. Thinkpad s230u
[16:23] <figure002> PrincessLuna: ahh, i thought you meant touchpad. I have no experience with touch screens, sorry
[16:25] <PrincessLuna> figure002: Under 12.10 touch works (single only), Under 13.04 multi touch works but for some reason there is no way to right click and its annoying. In Windows 8, right click works by holding down the finger for some time.
[16:26] <JaySwoozle> I dont think there has ever been a more stupid question asked but, im installing wine right now and I reacher what looks like a microsoft policy agreement thing, and  cannot figure out HOW TO PRESS THE OK BUTTON
[16:26] <k1l> PrincessLuna: http://askubuntu.com/questions/26106/make-long-click-act-like-a-right-click
[16:26] <k1l> but i dont know whats that on kde
[16:26] <ikonia> JaySwoozle: try using tab to hilight it
[16:26] <holstein> JaySwoozle: maybe just tab to it? and hit enter?.. take a screenshot if needed
[16:26] <kostkon> JaySwoozle, probably the msscorefonts eula. press tab
[16:26] <figure002> PrincessLuna: can you enable Two Finger Scroll in Ubuntu 12.10?
[16:27] <JaySwoozle> Yes thank you guys!
[16:27] <JaySwoozle> I feel like a real moron now...
[16:27] <ikonia> JaySwoozle: no need
[16:27] <PrincessLuna> figure002: With touchpad yes
[16:27] <JaySwoozle> HOTS here i come!
[16:28] <PrincessLuna> k1l: No such thing in kubuntu and even in Ubuntu I heard its only for the touchpad / mouse.
[16:28] <figure002> PrincessLuna: hmm, don't know about touch screen then
[16:29] <execat> Does anyone know where I can find the server side code for the Ubuntu tour (this: http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/)?
[16:29] <ikonia> execat: I don't think it's public
[16:30] <execat> ikonia, :-/ Is it because of some Ubuntu policy (sorry, not sure how the community works) or just that someone forgot?
[16:31] <ikonia> execat: it's a website....they don't normally mage websites backend available.
[16:31] <SharkMuttleworth> execat: Server side code? Isn't most of it just done in the CSS and Javascript you can see as part of the page?
[16:31] <rkm> hi
[16:32] <rkm> i m new ubuntu user.
[16:32] <execat> SharkMuttleworth, 1. Nice username. 2. The backend is the part I am expecting to look at, because it's working in a weird way. When I type in localhost from the tour web browser, it takes me to /my/ localhost page.
[16:33] <execat> I just thought it was amusing, and wanted to look at the code, as to how it did it.
[16:33] <ikonia> execat: it's not meant to be replicated onto your server
[16:33] <SharkMuttleworth> execat: Probably just an iframe to do that
[16:33] <jrtappers> rkm, Any questions?
[16:35] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[16:35] <ShapeShifter499> what is the highest byte value I can go with when encrypting ssh keys?
[16:36] <jrtappers> ShapeShifter499, The bigger the keys get, the slower it gets
[16:37] <ShapeShifter499> jrtappers, slower to generate? or slower connections?
[16:37] <ShapeShifter499> idc how slow it takes to generate
[16:37] <jrtappers> ShapeShifter499, Slower to generate, slower to login
[16:38] <ShapeShifter499> hmm
[16:38] <ShapeShifter499> jrtappers, what size do you suggest?
[16:38] <ert3go> Hello, can someone help me install openCV 2.1 on ubuntu 12.04?
[16:39] <jrtappers> ShapeShifter499, Depends, 2048 is the Default, 4096 is very high. Is this for a personal machine?
[16:40] <jrtappers> Your main security focus should be on securing the private key, If an attacker got that it wouldn't matter about key length, unless it has a password
[16:42] <ShapeShifter499> jrtappers, I have a 25 alphanumeric passphrase on the key
[16:42] <shade34321> if i'm tarring a file can I do this tar czvf /some_other_dir/tar_dir.tgz dirname/ to tar it in another directory?
[16:43] <jrtappers> ShapeShifter499, Is it a home machine, or not? I usually go with 4096 and Fail2Ban for extra security
[16:43] <llutz> shade34321: sure
[16:43] <jrtappers> *well, less log file mess
[16:43] <shade34321> llutz: thanks, didn't want to try it before I checked because the data is crucial and therefore can not be lost. Thanks!
[16:44] <ShapeShifter499> jrtappers, well seems it worked fine for the max limit of 16384
[16:44] <ShapeShifter499> yes I'll use it
[16:44] <ShapeShifter499> jrtappers, does it just slow the initial login or the whole speed of connection?
[16:46] <Extreme> Hi, I installed a gedit plugin but I can't find it in Gedit > Preferences > Plugins. The files are at: ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins but the plugin doesn't appear in the list.
[16:47] <jrtappers> ShapeShifter499, I think just generating
[16:47] <jrtappers> ShapeShifter499, http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/creating-32768-bit-rsa-keys-for-fun-and-profit A bit old but relevant
[16:49] <guffytf> Hi, all. I uploaded a file to an Ubuntu machine from a Mac via command-line scp and the file has a few thousand lines. On the destination (Ubuntu) machine, I can see the file using 'more', but 'wc -l' says it has 0 lines. Any idea what's going on?
[16:49] <belgianguy> I've been dabbling with JMeter for the last hour, seems a bit more sophisticated than Siege
[16:50] <belgianguy> woops
[16:50] <belgianguy> wrong chan
[16:50] <ShapeShifter499> jrtappers, sweet I'll stick with my freshly generated16384 rsa key then lol
[16:50] <guffytf> Oh, I just tried head, and it displayed loads of data all on one line. Maybe my end-of-line characters are wrong??
[16:50] <ShapeShifter499> jrtappers, weird though I can't seem to go beyond that value,   I get an error " key bits exceeds maximum 16384"
[16:52] <ShapeShifter499> jrtappers, same error on my netbook
[16:52] <jrtappers> 16384 * 2 = 32768, may be the problem
[16:53] <jrtappers> 32768 is listed as the max length so there may be bugs at half full length, seems like too close for coincidence
[16:53] <feydraurha80> hello
[16:54] <feydraurha80> where can i ask a few things about .deb package management ?
[16:55] <Sarger001> Want to dual boot with puppy, but guys over at puppy ushered me over to here.
[16:55] <dtcrshr> Sarger001: puppy is awesome to make a snes / sega box :D
[16:55] <dtcrshr> what bothers you?
[16:56] <Sarger001> ?
[16:56] <Sarger001> Oh, partitioning help.
[16:57] <Sarger001> I've got my partitions made
[16:57] <Sarger001> but don't know how to install into that partition
[16:57] <holstein> Sarger001: i have never installed puppy.. i would just install ubuntu, and boot puppy live, and make it a save partition
[16:58] <holstein> i should say, i have not installed puppy after i did it once and decided it was unecessary
[16:58] <Sarger001>  Ubuntu is installed.
[17:01] <Sarger001> Do i need to edit the GRUB Bootloader once installed?
[17:01] <Sarger001> Or will it auto update?
[17:01] <Testtube302> Hello I currently have Ubuntu 8.04LTS Server running a older kernel 2.6.24-21-server. I am trying to install the Kernel sources but it appears they have been deleted?
[17:02] <Testtube302> I am getting Package linux-headers-2.6.24-21-server is not available I have checked online and the package seems to be gone.
[17:04] <kapepy> I have a problem with star TSP 650 printer. The printer seems to be connected okay, but I can not print anything. Trying to print test page results the job going into queue being  marked as "processing". Nothing comes out. What could be wrong?
[17:06] <ashutosh> nick GrungeMachine
[17:09] <kapepy> I downloaded, compiled & installed the driver from Star homepage. Oh, and I'm running 12.04 with 64bit kernel
[17:09] <packetfrog> !ping
[17:09] <happyface> !ping
[17:09] <Testtube302> Hello I currently have Ubuntu 8.04LTS Server running a older kernel 2.6.24-21-server. I am trying to install the Kernel sources but it appears they have been deleted? I am getting Package linux-headers-2.6.24-21-server is not available
[17:09] <mandoguit> kapepy:    no printer expert here but you might want to try using the CUPS setup.....   enter the following in your web browser  https://localhost:631/  >  CUPS for Administrators > Adding Printers and Classes
[17:10] <gummyw0rmz> WHATS up :D
[17:11] <Fetentone> ciao a tutti voi! 1835 utenti :D
[17:11] <kapepy> thanks mandoquit :) What should I check from there?
[17:11] <kapepy> processing since
[17:11] <kapepy> Tue Mar 12 18:44:16 2013
[17:11] <kapepy> "Ready to print."
[17:12] <Fetentone> ragazzi, qualcuno saprebbe dirmi come mai nei link in Xchat il click diretto del tasto sinistro del mouse non mi apre il browser? eppure mi sembra tutto settato per bene. Per aprire il link devo necessariamente cliccare col tasto destro del mouse e poi opzionare Apri collegamento nel browser. Grazie
[17:13] <woodt> Greetings!  Who is the Ubuntu/Debian maintainer for Drupal6?
[17:13] <jrtappers> How do I set up mouse buttons in ubuntu, IE thumb buttons
[17:13] <Physicist> Greetings folks..
[17:13] <k1l> woodt: see in launchpad.net or on packages.ubunut.com
[17:13] <k1l> !it | Fetentone
[17:13] <woodt> Thanks, K1l
[17:14] <kapepy> the printer has been processing the test page for half an hour now...
[17:14] <k1l> woodt: packages.ubuntu.com (had a typo in the url)
[17:15] <Physicist> My ubuntu 10.04 is without sound.. I tried install a package Alsa for Beats Audio and I do not listen anything... The installation did not finish because one problem in compilation.. Any advice?
[17:15] <llutz> woodt: apt-cache show drupal|grep -i maintai
[17:15] <llutz> drupal6 even
[17:15] <yourimym1> hey how to sudo edit config file from terminal ?
[17:15] <woodt> Thank you, llutz
[17:15] <kwyjibo> Today's challenge. find the word "Linux" on ubuntu.com. Good luck.
[17:16] <SonikkuAmerica> yourimym1: Umm, which config file do you need to edit as root?
[17:16] <Testtube302> lol
[17:16] <k1l> yourimym1: sudo nano /path/to/file
[17:16] <k1l> kwyjibo: that is not the topic  for a technical support channel
[17:17] <yourimym1> SonikkuAmerica: set_config file for something i need
[17:17] <antz> am i still muted or can ppl hear me?
[17:17] <jrtappers> kwyjibo, Like this http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu ? :D
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> yourimym1: k1l has it right, just make sure you absolutely need root permissions.
[17:17] <Extreme> antz: we can hear you! :)
[17:17] <Testtube302> I can hear you
[17:17] <Physicist> Can anybody help me?
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> antz: We read you loud and clear.
[17:17] <antz> yay :)
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone | Physicist
[17:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !gq > SonikkuAmerica
[17:18] <kwyjibo> From Ubuntu.com's download page: "My Ubuntu setup is faster than a PC and prettier than a Mac..." It's still a PC.
[17:18] <SofS> About cupsd.conf, I am trying to set it so normal users cant access the admin pages, but can still add/remove printers. Got this far: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5608304/ but there is that error. Any ideas?
[17:18] <llutz> kwyjibo: do you have any ubuntu support question?
[17:19] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot > kwyjibo
[17:19] <Testtube302> How often is it appropriate to repeat a question for help?
[17:19] <Physicist> SonikkuAmerica: I already asked.
[17:19] <Physicist> My ubuntu 10.04 is without sound.. I tried install a package Alsa for Beats Audio and I do not listen anything... The installation did not finish because one problem in compilation.. Any advice?
[17:19] <yourimym1> SonikkuAmerica: sudo nano /home/moataz/set/config , where to right the file name to be edited ?
[17:19] <yourimym1> before path or after ?
[17:19] <k1l> yourimym1: stop
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> yourimym1: After (syntax you have there is correct)
[17:20] <k1l> yourimym1: there should not be root rights needed in your home folder
[17:20] <yourimym1> k1l: ?
[17:20] <Sarger001> Is it possible to reinstall GRUB?
[17:20] <eian> I want to setup a few LXC containers to have "pass-through" networking - I want to have them grab DHCP addresses from my home router. I can't find a guide to set this up...
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> yourimym1: If you're trying to edit a config file inside your home dir tree, you shouldn't need to sudo.
[17:21] <yourimym1> SonikkuAmerica: sudo nano /home/moataz/set/config set_config  like this ?
[17:21] <yourimym1> i can't save it while in dir
[17:21] <llutz> Sarger001: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc && sudo update-grub
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> yourimym1: Just try [ nano ~/set/config ] for now
[17:21] <Sarger001> Will that update the bootloader?
[17:21] <Sarger001> Or do i have to do that manually?
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Sarger001: Pardon my butting but yes, it will.
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Sarger001: That's what the [ && sudo update-grub ] part is about
[17:22] <Testtube302> Hello I currently have Ubuntu 8.04LTS Server running a older kernel 2.6.24-21-server. I am trying to install the Kernel sources but it appears they have been deleted? I am getting Package linux-headers-2.6.24-21-server is not available
[17:23] <Sarger001> ok, so if i've just installed puppy to dual boot with ubuntu, i can just reinstall grub?
[17:23] <Sarger001> instead of editing menu.lst
[17:23] <llutz> Sarger001: there is no menu.lst with grub2
[17:23] <layer3> [Guest9234] anyone here
[17:24] <woodt> Just noticed that my Drupal 6 install on 10.04 is out of date despite having the latest official packages.  Anyone know how best to handle this?
[17:24] <Sarger001> Great lol, everyones telling me to edit menu.lst
[17:24] <ert3go> Hello, please help me resolve this error : http://pastie.org/6462242
[17:24] <philinux> Sarger001: run sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[17:24] <Sarger001> So if i reinstall grub, puppy will appear alongside ubuntu?
[17:24] <Sarger001> That's great
[17:25] <layer3> [Guest9234] can someone help iam new ti ubuntu i just installed it im woundering do i need to install a virtualbox or no is it needed?
[17:25] <philinux> Sarger001: depends if puppy took control
[17:25] <ert3go> you're better judge of that layer3
[17:27] <Guest52391> Ubuntu: why is cmatrix missing from the repo all of this sudden?
[17:27] <holstein> !info cmatrix
[17:28] <happyface> !ping
[17:28] <ert3go> Hello, can anyone help me solve this error : http://pastie.org/6462242
[17:28] <holstein> Guest52391: i find it here.. whats the issue?
[17:29] <yourimym1> SonikkuAmerica: how to save file from nano then after editing ?
[17:29] <llutz> ert3go: you need package libv4l1-dev   or whatever package libv4l1 contains
[17:29] <Guest52391> holstein: unable to locate package cmatrix
[17:29] <SonikkuAmerica> yourimym1: Hit Ctrl+X, then Y, then ENTER. You'll be back at terminal and the file is saved.
[17:30] <holstein> ert3go: i ran "apt-cache search libv4ll" and came up with libv4l-0 and libv4l-dev in the 12.04 repos
[17:30] <holstein> !info libv4l-dev
[17:30] <yourimym1> SonikkuAmerica: thx very much for help
[17:30] <yourimym1> and thx for all also :)
[17:30] <ert3go> holstein, I think I did apt-get install libv4l* and downloaded it
[17:30] <ert3go> installed*
[17:31] <philinux> Guest52391: which version ubuntu you got
[17:31] <holstein> ert3go: just confirm then, since you use the word "think"
[17:31] <ert3go> holstein, sudo apt-get install libv4l1*
[17:31] <holstein> ert3go: i would actually sudo apt-get install what returns from the search
[17:31] <ert3go> okay
[17:31] <ert3go> but now I've run into different errors :/
[17:32] <holstein> Guest52391: sudo apt-get install cmatrix , and pastebin errors
[17:33] <mkozjak> hello
[17:33] <eydaimon> what switch does lsof need to display ports instead of service name? I can't see it in the manpage
[17:33] <eydaimon> found it
[17:33] <eydaimon> -P
[17:34] <mkozjak> i have been struggling with getting a simple php using 'sqlite_open' to work - all i get is 'PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined function sqlite_open() in /var/www/getch.php on line 3'; i have everything installed; phpinfo() shows that everything is loaded; any ideas?
[17:34] <ert3go> holstein, can you help with this : http://pastie.org/6462305
[17:35] <mkozjak> php -m | grep sqlite
[17:35] <mkozjak> pdo_sqlite
[17:35] <mkozjak> sqlite3
[17:35] <holstein> File /home/ert3go/OpenCV-2.1.0/opencv.pc.cmake.in does not exist. ..maybe it needs to me created ert3go .. or maybe whatever you are trying to install is broken.. what are you doing?
[17:35] <cconstantine> hey all, I'm having problems with my laptop's wifi; it's doing 802.11n really horribly and I can't figure out how to tell the wireless card to not do 802.11n (network related modules are: rtl8192ce, rtlwifi)
[17:36] <Testtube302> Hello I currently have Ubuntu 8.04LTS Server running a older kernel 2.6.24-21-server. I am trying to install the Kernel sources but it appears they have been deleted? I am getting Package linux-headers-2.6.24-21-server is not available
[17:36] <ert3go> holstein, trying to install openCV 2.1 on ubuntu 12.04 so that I can run sikuli properly. I am following this guide : http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/InstallGuide_Linux
[17:36] <holstein> !8.04
[17:37] <holstein> Testtube302: its EOL soon
[17:37] <gummyw0rmz> EOM rounds complete
[17:37] <Testtube302> I undestand that
[17:37] <Testtube302> But its not EOL now.
[17:37] <Testtube302> And i have it in production...
[17:38] <holstein> Testtube302: i wouldnt worry about having a server specific kernel.. try the generic.. or /join #ubuntu-server ..also, think about migrating
[17:38] <edu> hi there, I'm using irssi (with screen) I run nicklist.pl but names doesn't appear. In ubuntu 12.04 need to configure something more?
[17:40] <ert3go> holstein, trying to install openCV 2.1 on ubuntu 12.04 so that I can run sikuli properly. I am following this guide : http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/InstallGuide_Linux
[17:40] <holstein> ert3go: if it were me, i would start here http://www.sikuli.org/download.html and download and start with the readme there
[17:41] <ert3go> holstein, I did that too
[17:42] <ert3go> holstein : /home/ert3go/Sikuli-r931-linux-i686/Sikuli-IDE/libs/libVisionProxy.so: libml.so.2.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:42] <ert3go> that's the error I get when I run a sikuli script ^
[17:42] <holstein> ert3go: ask the maintainers
[17:42] <elena-IK> how do I prevent my virtual terminals from beeing flooded with kernel messages? I put "loglevel=3" in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT /etc/default/grub, but after entering the luks password the messages appear again. "dmesg -n 3" does the job fine after boot, but how do I do that automatically?
[17:42] <ert3go> ok thanks holstein
[17:43] <yourimym1> !git
[17:43] <bhavesh> how do I type in superscript and subscript in ubuntu? I tried copying from a HTML file with <sub> and <sup> tags which I used but it was again normal text when I pasted in glade. However pasting from wikipedia worked.
[17:43] <misterswag> im having issues trying to get unity to be back to default
[17:43] <misterswag> i instaleld gnome 3
[17:43] <misterswag> but it went heywire
[17:43] <misterswag> ppa-purge gnome3 and ricoz testing
[17:43] <misterswag> and i get red artifacts in unity
[17:43] <misterswag> in chrome
[17:43] <misterswag> mission icons
[17:44] <superboot> misterswag: Don't use the Enter key for punctuation. We arn't afraid of long paragraphs.
[17:44] <misterswag> :) i will remember that
[17:46] <Guest52391> philinux: 12.10
[17:46] <misterswag> its like it went to an oldie theme
[17:46] <heikoL> http://i.imagebanana.com/img/jompmxhg/VirtualBoxError_001.png  <- is this VirtualBox Extension Pack somewhere in the repos? or do I really need to install that manually after every VirtualBox update?
[17:47] <Extreme> bhavesh: For a Label switch on "Use markup" in the "General" tab of the Label properties. img: http://i.stack.imgur.com/HR3Kz.png
[17:47] <Guest52391> holstein: E: unable to locate package cmatrix
[17:47] <holstein> heikoL: i think so, since it cant be included by default
[17:47] <holstein> Guest52391: sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install cmatrix
[17:47] <yourimym1> i have problem , i tried to instal kde plasma desktop and to enjoy kde with experince but things went wrong , so i canceled installation (closed terminal window) , and now am using unity , the problem is whne i run system update i get things for kde , but i dont wanna to have this updates in the update list , is there remove command or something to ignore these kde update  and make it wont appear in my update list ?
[17:49] <yourimym1> !cmatrix
[17:49] <holstein> !info cmatrix
[17:50] <GrungeMachine> exit
[17:51] <bhavesh> Extreme, thanks, but there is no such option for editing text of a button
[17:51] <Guesty93> hello
[17:52] <edu> hi there, I'm using irssi (with screen) I run nicklist.pl but names doesn't appear. In ubuntu 12.04 need to configure something more?
[17:52] <holstein> yourimym1: i would go to a package manager and remove whatever kde apps and libs you dont want
[17:52] <holstein> edu: run /names
[17:53] <Guest52391> holstein: did it thrice
[17:53] <holstein> Guest52391: did what?
[17:53] <Guesty93> can someone help i just downloaded ubuntu first time do i need a virtualbox or is it needed?
[17:53] <holstein> Guesty93: depends on what you want to do, but you dont need virtualbox to boot the live CD
[17:54] <_raven> (how) is vlc able to open playlists which contain only one line of file?
[17:54] <Guesty93> i dont do much online im on youtube alot
[17:55] <holstein> Guesty93: you dont need ubuntu to watch youtube.. what are you trying to do?
[17:55] <Guest52391> holstein: maybe i dont have that repo enabled
[17:55] <Guesty93> iam having trouble setting up the virtualbox is why i ask if it was needed
[17:55] <holstein> Guest52391: open synaptic, or the software center and search..
[17:55] <Guesty93> i wanted something differnt then windows
[17:55] <holstein> Guesty93: it depends on what you are doing
[17:55] <holstein> Guesty93: if you want to replace windows..
[17:56] <Guesty93> just chat and go on youtube thats it
[17:56] <holstein> !install | Guesty93
[17:56] <Guesty93> i like ubuntu better
[17:56] <yourimym1> holstein: am afriad to remove wrong package , , any other way , or i remove any kde named package even kde lib something ?!
[17:56] <holstein> Guesty93: you *are* chatting.. and i assume you have a web browser.. but, if you like to install ubuntu, that link shows how
[17:56] <lisandrop05> hello  to every one I'm installing firehol and when I exec "frirehol try" I get a lot of errors like this: "iptables: Memory allocation problem." I where lokking at top command while I where doing and is a lot of memory free in the system
[17:57] <holstein> yourimym1: then dont remove anything
[17:57] <Guesty93> yes i already have downloaded ubuntu it works fine i like it better then windows i just needed to know if i can run ubuntu without virtualbox
[17:57] <holstein> !info firehol
[17:57] <holstein> lisandrop05: are you typo-ing it?
[17:57] <yourimym1> holstein: any other way ?
[17:58] <holstein> yourimym1: to what?
[17:58] <yourimym1> to solve my problem ?
[17:58] <holstein> yourimym1: you dont have a problem.. you have kde packages you installed, and you dont want them anymore.. if you want to remove them, remove them
[17:59] <holstein> yourimym1: if you are "afraid" then, just go with what you got
[17:59] <lisandrop05> holstein: I don't untherstand what you means
[17:59] <yourimym1> holstein: i cant remeber the packages i've added is there default name for it  ?
[18:00] <holstein> lisandrop05: you say "i exec frirehol". is that a typo?
[18:00] <Guest52391> holstein: it is not there
[18:00] <lisandrop05> holstein: no, I execute "firehol try command"
[18:00] <holstein> yourimym1: i would open a package manager and search "kde".. or see what is in the list that you wnt to remove and remove them
[18:00] <yourimym1> holstein: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu like this one ?
[18:01] <holstein> yourimym1: like, any kde application that you dont want on your system..
[18:02] <holstein> lisandrop05: i use ufw
[18:02] <yourimym1> holstein: appreciate you help :)
[18:02] <holstein> !gufw
[18:02] <holstein> yourimym1: it shouldnt hurt to just leave them there.. just take up space on the disk
[18:02] <Guest52391> is it in community repo
[18:03] <lisandrop05> holstein: I'm on ubuntu server
[18:03] <yourimym1> holstein: it's just bothering me while chooseing what to update
[18:03] <holstein> lisandrop05: ufw is the non-gui version i use on server
[18:03] <elena-IK> is putting "dmesg -n 3" in /etc/rc.local a good/bad idea?
[18:04] <lisandrop05> holstein: but I'll need to reconfigure my rules
[18:04] <lisandrop05> wich work OK on another servers
[18:04] <holstein> lisandrop05: i would try the server channel, or wait for another volunteer familiar with firehol
[18:04] <lisandrop05> I just don't know why I'm getting this error
[18:05] <lisandrop05> server channel?
[18:05] <holstein> lisandrop05: /join #ubuntu-server for the server channel
[18:06] <Mip5> Hi Folks - I've got a powerful machine (dual qc processors, 24 GB of ram) running 12.04. Recently apt-get update goes fast (fast downloads), but then crawls during Reading Package Lists. It often takes 20 minutes! Any ideas or things to try?
[18:08] <ert3go> holstein, can you explain me the steps in comments of Jac Obi here : http://karytech.blogspot.in/2011/02/opencv-22-on-ubuntu-1010.html
[18:10] <kimibe_n> hello!
[18:10] <fego> I am using a dell inspiron 15 R , this system is so silent while on windows 8 but the fans get busy when i run ubuntu for a while. This system has intel hd 4000 graphics
[18:10] <holstein> ert3go: i dont like to get that far out of the repo versions.. things tend to break, and i dont know what features you are trying to get, but i would ask yourself if its worth it.. this could be only the start of the hassle
[18:11] <ert3go> holstein, :(. I am following the steps mentioned here : http://www.samontab.com/web/2010/04/installing-opencv-2-1-in-ubuntu/
[18:11] <holstein> fego: you can try something like jupiter http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/jupiter-ubuntu-ppa-hardware-and-power.html though i would know how to remove and undo
[18:11] <kimibe_n> Can anybody tell me if UCK or ubuntu bilder are stable as you can suggest me to use at work for 10-15 machines?
[18:11] <holstein> kimibe_n: i just used clonezilla and cloned mine
[18:12] <kimibe_n> holstein livecd would be very nice...
[18:12] <anonona> i built 12.04 on a ppc mac by terminal now i cant get gui to connect to wired or wireless - tried booting from a live 13.04 but graphics are hopeless - anyone know how to enable connections from terminal or to upgrade from the live cd im booting from?
[18:12] <kimibe_n> holstein that's why I am searching an iso creator...
[18:13] <holstein> kimibe_n: id say just try them.. i found issue with all of them.. and deciced not to use one.. try remastersys as well
[18:13] <holstein> !nomodeset
[18:14] <holstein> anonona: i would try that from the live CD... ppc suppport is challenging
[18:14] <holstein> !ppc
[18:15] <kimibe_n> holstein remateresys does not have update since long time and it's support is too bad.. I am trying uck and ubuntu bilder. they seems works fine. but I just try them at home. I dont have a change to try them at office..
[18:15] <raven_> hi
[18:15] <kimibe_n> holstein what did you see as problem?
[18:16] <holstein> kimibe_n: using them, and getting a result that was usable..
[18:16] <raven_> i am trying out this script: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/24952/script-to-monitor-folder-for-new-files i do not get any filename output - any ideas?
[18:16] <kimibe_n> holstein did you use uck and ubuntu-builder both?
[18:16] <anonona> yeah that didnt work - ppc is too rare for the info to be easy to get
[18:16] <kimibe_n> holstein hmmm.. :(
[18:16] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[18:16] <holstein> kimibe_n: ^^
[18:16] <KatnissEverdeen> is selena gomez a virgin?
[18:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> wth did I walk into?!
[18:17] <compdoc> you walked into lust etc, it seems
[18:17] <KatnissEverdeen> ban me!
[18:17] <KatnissEverdeen> !ops
[18:17] <kimibe_n> holstein I had found the same page.. But I think uck and others are making the same thinks on background..
[18:17] <KatnissEverdeen> ban me!
[18:17] <KatnissEverdeen> !staff
[18:18] <KatnissEverdeen> ban me!
[18:18] <Myrtti> KatnissEverdeen: how about you just go away
[18:19] <raven_> how to monitor a folder for new files and get the filename of them?
[18:19] <Caster2141> *!help
[18:20] <edu> holstein: I'm not looking for that, I need nicklist.pl running
[18:20] <edu> hi there, I'm using irssi (with screen) I run nicklist.pl but names doesn't appear. In ubuntu 12.04 need to configure something more?
[18:21] <holstein> edu: i put my .pl's i the directory suggested at the site.. i'll look
[18:21] <holstein> edu: i am using irssi in screen as well
[18:21] <raven_> how to monitor a folder for new files and get the filename of them?
[18:21] <holstein> !patience | raven_
[18:22] <edu> holstein: In 12.04? I have the script in .irssi/scripts/ and do /run nicklist but nothing changes
[18:23] <holstein> edu: /usr/share/irssi/scripts is where i put them... i just put my config and plugs where i want..
[18:24] <edu> holstein: when I put /run nicklist irssi says: Nicklist loaded
[18:24] <anonona> anyone know a command i can give from a live 13.04 to upgrade my 12.04 ? with no graphics due to an old ppc machine
[18:24] <holstein> edu: i dont use nicklist but the plugs i use are loaded
[18:26] <holstein> edu: i have to run, but http://scripts.irssi.org/ is what i used
[18:26] <Zer0Glitch> Does anyone have a get for Truecrypt?
[18:27] <holstein> Zer0Glitch: a get? i get it from http://www.truecrypt.org/
[18:27] <Zer0Glitch> Download .tar.gz has no install file. Can't get it to run.
[18:27] <Zer0Glitch> Help?
[18:28] <tgm4883> Zer0Glitch, did you run the file in the tar.gz file?
[18:28] <Zer0Glitch> Yes. Only opens in text format.
[18:28] <Zer0Glitch> I'm thinking either one of my file associations is poorly directed, or i'm using the wrong command
[18:29] <tgm4883> Zer0Glitch, I have a feeling that you need to make it executable and run it from the command line
[18:29] <bean__> tar xf whatever.tar.gz
[18:29] <holstein> Zer0Glitch: typically, you would ask truecrypc for help.. but you download and exctract and run the setup that is extracted.. click it and follow the instructions
[18:29] <Zer0Glitch> tar xf makes it executable?
[18:29] <holstein> Zer0Glitch: you can also literally click on it. im doing it now
[18:30] <bean__> no, it'll extract it.
[18:30] <holstein> Zer0Glitch: its installed and running...
[18:31] <Zer0Glitch> When I click on the truecrypt-7.1a-setup-x86 it keeps opening in LeafPad
[18:32] <holstein> Zer0Glitch: try right click and open in terminal.. try navigating to it in terminal and running it
[18:33] <tgm4883> Zer0Glitch, LeafPad probably took over opening shell scripts
[18:34] <kor> Hi, does some one knows? how can i change the priority and memory usage of some app? i mean permanently, thanks.
[18:36] <Mip5> Gotta run - thanks anyway. M
[18:38] <buddha__> New_User_Testing
[18:40] <buddha__> Hello...is this thing  working ?
[18:40] <kimibe_n> please if anyone using uck or ubuntu-builder tell me your experiences..
[18:40] <DJones> buddha__: Yes
[18:40] <buddha__> Danke
[18:40] <buddha__> quit
[18:40] <buddha__> exit
[18:40] <DJones> !de | buddha__
[18:40] <buddha__> Sorry..
[18:41] <DJones> buddha__: No probs, just thought it worth mentioning for future reference
[18:42] <buddha__> I shall keep that in mind ;)
[18:43] <lhoersten> I have sticky edges disabled in 12.04 but my mouse is still getting stuck in between monitors. anyone know how to fix this?
[18:46] <tgm4883> lhoersten, sticky edges?
[18:47] <lhoersten> tgm4883: yeah
[18:47] <buddha__> pa
[18:47] <raven_> how to monitor a folder for new files and get the filename of them?
[18:47] <tgm4883> lhoersten, where did you set that?
[18:47] <lhoersten> tgm4883: settings -> dislpays -> sticky edges
[18:49] <tgm4883> lhoersten, did you also change the launcher placement on your far left monitor?
[18:49] <lhoersten> tgm4883: no it's still on my far left monitor where it defaulted to
[18:50] <tgm4883> lhoersten, by default, it's on both monitors
[18:50] <lhoersten> tgm4883: then yes I must have changed it to just the primary monitor
[18:50] <raven_> how to monitor a folder for new files and get the filename of them?
[18:51] <tgm4883> lhoersten, hmm. Odd, because with sticky edges off and it set to only use my left monitor, it doesn't stick to my middle monitor edge
[18:51] <tgm4883> raven_, I'm unsure of a program that could do it, but if you know python it's not too difficult
[18:52] <lhoersten> tgm4883: it never used to for me either. I rebooted and now its borken
[18:52] <tgm4883> lhoersten, sorry I couldn't be more help
[18:52] <lhoersten> raven_: inotify
[18:52] <daemoen> lo all.  found an oab-java project for ubuntu, happen to know if it supports both the jre and jdks ?
[18:53]  * daemoen would imagine there must be a few users here familiar with it (oab-java6 on github)
[18:53] <lhoersten> raven_: check out "man inotifywait"
[18:54] <tgm4883> raven_, looks like iwatch will do it http://iwatch.sourceforge.net/index.html (iwatch uses inotify)
[18:54] <quantum> I am just about fed up with Debian.
[18:55] <quantum> Ancient.
[18:55] <Zer0Glitch> So I managed to fix the issue with my Truecrypt install opening in Leafpad. I used alien to turn the .tar.gz into a .deb and installed that way.
[18:55] <jrib>  /msg ubottu truecrypt
[18:55] <quantum> Looks like raring might be out next month?
[18:55] <jrib> !truecrypt | Zer0Glitch
[18:55] <DJones> quantum: Correct
[18:56] <quantum> Will XFCE be up to date on Raring?
[18:56] <tgm4883> quantum, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xfce&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all
[18:56] <Zer0Glitch> Thanks ubottu
[18:56] <DJones> quantum: Best asking in #ubuntu+1 thats where support is for unreleased versions
[18:56] <quantum> Kool.
[18:57] <quantum> Is selinux integrated in Ubuntu?  Upstart?
[18:57] <tgm4883> quantum, it would appear that xfce is up to date on quantal
[18:57] <rrezon> ?
[18:57] <tgm4883> !selinux
[18:58] <rrezon> ?
[18:58] <quantum> Hiinteresting...
[18:58] <czz> hellopat, how can I grep more than one string while using whois?
[18:58] <quantum> Is AppArmor easier to use?
[18:59] <tgm4883> quantum, I've not used selinux since fedora core 6, so IDK
[18:59] <quantum> tgm4883: Is AA fairly easy to use in practice tho?
[18:59] <jrib> czz: grep 'foo\|bar'
[18:59] <tor_> i moved some music folders and had to choose merge in the target directory. but now i get double folder listings. what is this and why wil not my windows computer read those spesific folders. windows complains that it is unknown location
[19:00] <tgm4883> quantum, I'd browse that page, it's got good info on it
[19:00] <tor_> the files is on a external usb drive ntfs
[19:00] <czz> jrib, Thanks. What's the "
[19:01] <czz> jrib, What's the "\" for?
[19:01] <jrib> czz: to escape the |
[19:01] <quantum> I notice that Fedora has dropped Upstart.  Any idea why?
[19:01] <jrib> quantum: this channel is for ubuntu support; we wouldn't know
[19:02] <DJones> quantum: You'd have to ask in the fedora support channels
[19:02] <rrezon> hey guys check this out http://hollywoodtodaynews.com/
[19:02] <quantum> Well have there been problems with Upstart?
[19:02] <rrezon> http://hollywoodtodaynews.com/
[19:02] <rrezon> http://hollywoodtodaynews.com/
[19:02] <rrezon> http://hollywoodtodaynews.com/
[19:02] <rrezon> http://hollywoodtodaynews.com/
[19:02] <FloodBot1> rrezon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <LuizAngioletti> how do I post something on pastebin without a GUI?
[19:03] <Shibumi> Could you use lynx?
[19:03] <v2zz> hi! i try to synchronize my data folder to drobox folder. use rsync with only 2 params so far recurcive and update and they do well for me. but, when i rename directory it's not renamed, it's only copied (so 2 dirs appear on destionation). anybody knows how to make renaming work?
[19:03] <LuizAngioletti> Shibumi: no. No links. I have no mouse.
[19:04] <LuizAngioletti> Shibumi: so I can't really copy the error messages...
[19:04] <xrq> hi! I followed the ubuntu.com instructions for setting up a usb stick to boot ubuntu on a mac.  when I start it with the option key down, the stick does not show up as a boot device.  how do I boot from it?
[19:05] <rrezon> hey guys can you check this web page for me so i can just look at how many people are online right now http://hollywoodtodaynews.com/
[19:05] <Shibumi> LuizAngioletti Can you upload files to paste bin? Because if so, you could cat the errors into a file, then use lynx to go to paste bin, and upload it
[19:06] <Shibumi> LuizAngioletti There's also pastebininit, it allows uploading of files to pastebin from cli. You can install it with apt-get install pastebininit
[19:06] <rogier> I used a applet in the upper taskbar in gnome 2 to set the brightness of the backlight on my laptop. Is there something available in gnome 3 classic?
[19:06] <Shibumi> LuizAngioletti Here's the URL: http://linuxers.org/article/pastebinit-command-line-pastebin-client
[19:07] <Limurx> xrq: Some kinds of bios simply don't support booting via USB, or need to enabled in the boot settings. Did you check that?
[19:08] <tor_> ubutntu has f#c#ed up my music folder. i need some help
[19:08] <xrq> Limurx: it's a mac. it doesn't have a bios
[19:09] <xangua> rogier: if by classic you mean fallback mode, i believe it does use Indicators, doesn't it¿ https://launchpad.net/~indicator-brightness/+archive/ppa http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available?page=2&tab=votes#tab-top
[19:09] <xangua> !language | tor_
[19:09] <jman074> is anyone running openjdk java 7
[19:10] <xrq> Limurx: also, all modern macs like this one do support booting via usb stick
[19:10] <yasmin_> Oii
[19:10] <tor_> yes, sry
[19:10] <Shibumi> Limurx Can't you use rEFIt?
[19:10] <tor_> but i need and want help now
[19:11] <rogier> xangua: that seems for unity. Gnome 3 classic is an option in the start up menu (where you can choice for unity/ gnome 3/ gnome 3 classic. I think it's a mode for people who prefer the gnome 2 like interface.
[19:12] <s9iper1> my touchpad stop workingi dont wana logout or restart how can i set it back ??
[19:12] <jman074> i need to delete my temp internet files "applications and applets" im running openjdk java 7. any one know how to accomplish this
[19:12] <Shibumi> s9iper1 Why don't you just log out?
[19:14] <Limurx> xrq: I never used a Mac to be honest :) From my experience, it doesn't depend on if the pc is old or not, but the bios. As this doesn't apply to macs, I ran out of knowledge ;)
[19:14] <s9iper1> shibumi:i cant logout i am middle of some work anyother way to set it back
[19:14] <tgm4883> s9iper1, what kind of touchpad?
[19:15] <dhci> I can launch nautilus and see my smartphone appear as SAMSUNG_Android_SGH-I747 but I'm wondering how it gets that name. I don't see it in the /dev/disk/by-id area for example. I'd like to mount this automatically with udev to a fixed mount point
[19:15] <s9iper1> tgm4883:its laptop touchpad
[19:16] <Shibumi> s9iper1 You could try "sudo rmmod psmouse" and then "sudo modprobe psmouse"
[19:16] <pepepon> hi, i have a maxtor hd from a dvd recorder and i would like to recover the data. Right now it is connected and the BIOS recognize the HD, however i cannot "see" the unit from ubuntu, is there anyway to do so ?
[19:16] <tgm4883> Shibumi, I was thinking similar for synaptics
[19:16] <Shibumi> s9iper1 Or whatever touchpad driver your ubuntu is using
[19:17] <Shibumi> s9iper1 Isn't it synaptics-input-x86 or something like that now?
[19:17] <dhci> pepon did you try running 'dmesg' from a console to see if it listed as a /dev/ device? also /dev/disk/by-uuid can sometimes show it as a device entry that you can mount
[19:17] <s9iper1> shibumi: its working by those command thanks dude
[19:18] <Shibumi> s9iper1 Cool beans!
[19:18] <akar1m> hi ubuntu
[19:18] <pepepon> any hint?
[19:19] <holstein> pepepon: depends on how it is formatted, and if you are "allowed" to access it. wont hurt to try photorec from the testdisk suite
[19:19] <holstein> !testdisk
[19:20] <pepepon> photorec?
[19:20] <holstein> !info testdisk
[19:20] <pepepon> installing it now
[19:20] <pepepon> from sudo apt-get...
[19:20] <holstein> pepepon: its what i use on drive that wont mount, and let me access data.. its more for "broken" drives than proprietary formats
[19:21] <pepepon> holstein:  can you tell me the basic commands to check it ?
[19:21] <quantum> Anyone know of an open-source cloud service (not software) which is free, -and- allows you to use your own private key?
[19:21] <Industrial> I'm not in Unity, rather I'm using i3wm right now. What services am I missing? I get this error a lot: https://gist.github.com/Industrial/9cc306bf7d7383f7c563
[19:21] <Shibumi> quantum Would that be spideroak?
[19:22] <pepepon> holstein:  i just executed testdisk
[19:22] <Shibumi> quantum I know they let you have private keys
[19:22] <holstein> pepepon: there are no "basic" commands that are going to do anything for you. you have a drive that has been formatted by a proprietary system. best case, you bang you head against the wall for a bit, and get the files off.. unlabled ..or, you get some information as to what format they used on the drive
[19:23] <quantum> Shibumi: Nice, thanks.  I'll check it out.
[19:23] <buddha_> Test_Message
[19:23] <quantum> buddha_: Didn't work.
[19:23] <pepepon> holstein:  i got to the point where i have to choose the partition table type
[19:24] <buddha_> What did i do wrong :)
[19:24] <buddha_> quantum: What did i do wrong ?
[19:24] <quantum> buddha_: just teasing...
[19:25] <holstein> pepepon: that is the problem.. and the answer is, they dont have to let you know the type, or let you access it
[19:25] <pepepon> i see
[19:25] <holstein> pepepon: i would try some read-only options.. it literally shouldnt hurt anything
[19:25] <pepepon> yes, but which oneÇ?
[19:25] <buddha_> newbee_Testing
[19:26] <holstein> pepepon: i would start with the first one that looks plausible, then to the next..
[19:27] <pepepon> no idea
[19:27] <pawel_> Hello :D
[19:27] <holstein> pepepon: you can always ask them what they did
[19:29] <pepepon> thanks a lot holstein  the problem is that i dont know the dvd recorded, my dad just gave me the hdd
[19:29] <pepepon> :/
[19:29] <holstein> pepepon: maybe he can recall what manufacturer, or let you know that the data is really not all that important
[19:31] <pepepon> holstein:  the hdd is from his boss xD
[19:32] <pepepon> gonna reboot
[19:32] <pepepon> anyways, i appreciate your help buddy!
[19:32] <pepepon> bye
[19:32] <calos_> esos
[19:33] <holstein> pepepon: you will need to know that to do anything .. otherwise, you can just try all the options
[19:37] <coolroot> the only thing i regret is leaving ubuntu .... i made that coz i need to before 10.04 will be outdated now i got 12.04 and my laptop can't keep up with the gfx .... decide to go mint and from there can't get help from people :(
[19:39] <tgm4883> coolroot, did you try unity 2d?
[19:39] <tozen> coolroot: lubuntu or xubuntu
[19:41] <hpubuntu> hey I just had a package fail during installation in the software center,   I need a command to reset the displaced packages,  I did it before I cannot remember,  dpkg - l  or something? can someone help?
[19:41] <tgm4883> hpubuntu, was it "apt-get -f install"?
[19:41] <coolroot> i got mint now
[19:41] <holstein> hpubuntu: i usually run 'sudo apt-get update' and look for error messages
[19:42] <tozen> hpubuntu: dpkg -a configure ?
[19:42] <hpubuntu> yes that's it thank you all
[19:42] <holstein> coolroot: what desktop environment? you can try XFCE.. i feel like it is a lot like the older gnome2, just well supported
[19:42] <coolroot> first cinnamon and not happy on that to huge my laptop can't keep up the fx on that so decided mint MATE but less support less help on the web too
[19:43] <holstein> coolroot: i prefer XFCE to mate, but enjoy what you got, and keep in mind, this is the ubuntu support channel
[19:43] <tozen> coolroot: noprobs mint is debian based as well ;)
[19:44] <coolroot> yeah i should've stayed to 12.04 and get xfce on what am i thinkin that time!?
[19:45] <coolroot> sorry just sayin my frustration no wonder ubuntu is gettin huge
[19:48] <lacrymology> latest openssl has a bug http://rt.openssl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=3002&user=guest&pass=guest this is affecting my ubuntu 12.04 box. Is there a way to downgrade?
[19:51] <jali_f> anyone have experience setting up brother printers on networks?
[19:51] <cj> hey folks
[19:51] <cj> how do I check the default permissions of /etc/mail and /etc/mail/* in the sendmail package?
[19:51] <Akiva-Mobile> With ubuntu one, and my account, is there a way to save my software configuration? So say when I do a new install, I just load my profile, and it installs my entire suite of software?
[19:51] <tozen> cj: hayea
[19:52] <tgm4883> lacrymology, do you know the previous version? You can install a specific version of a package by doing 'apt-get install <packagename>=<packageversion>'
[19:52] <cj> Akiva-Mobile: yeah: dpkg -l > /tmp/foo ; cp /tmp/foo /media/my-usb-disk
[19:52]  * cj ducks
[19:53] <Akiva-Mobile> cj: I was thinking more along the lines of a cloud
[19:53] <Akiva-Mobile> I actually hate usb drives
[19:53] <Akiva-Mobile> they corrupt so easily
[19:53] <DJones> !cloning | Akiva-Mobile
[19:54] <elisa87> Do you know how to solve "/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits/fcntl2.h:45: undefined reference to `__open_too_many_args'" http://paste.ubuntu.com/5608741/ ???
[19:54] <Akiva-Mobile> DJones: Ah, so its not mainlined yet. need at least a level 2 user.
[19:55] <janisozaur_> how can i record two audio streams (e.g. from external webcam microphone and laptop's integrated mic) at once?
[19:57] <giacomo> buonsera a tutti
[19:59] <janisozaur_> !it | giacomo
[20:00] <raven_> vlc: how to reload the playlist every loop
[20:00] <Wizzz> I use pm-hibernate to hibernate, i have 8gb ram. When i resume, only 4 gb of ram filled and depending what memory pages are in swap that might result in applications
[20:00] <Wizzz> having too much page faults and being unresponsive for a long time is there a way to restore exactly the pages i had in ram when i hibernated, or fill as much ram as possible?
[20:02] <dtcrshr> silly question, iv i put up an hard drive with ubuntu installed, into another machine , completly different, will it boot?
[20:02] <lacrymology> tgm4883: I'm looking at the update history, and it looks like it upgraded from 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.6 to ..ubuntu5.7. If I try to install openssl=...ubuntu5.7 it says "already at it's newest version", if I try ...ubuntu5.6 it says version ..5.6 not found
[20:02] <nick|here> hi. I got a SSD system. What should i put on the SSD ? I'll put my /home to a 7200 rpm Drive(way bigger). Should I keep /usr and /var on SSD or move some other too? (SSD is 250G)
[20:02] <llutz> dtcrshr: most likely it will, problem might be graphics/wifi
[20:03] <tgm4883> lacrymology, you did 'apt-get install openssl=1.0.1-4ubuntu5.6'?
[20:03] <dtcrshr> any quick way to fix it?
[20:04] <llutz> dtcrshr: depends on the chipsets
[20:04] <llutz> nick|here: /usr has to be on SSD for performance
[20:05] <nick|here> llutz: what i thought is only moving my /home folder to 7200 HDD. rest should be on SSD(which 250G should be way more than enough I assume)
[20:05] <raven_> vlc: how to reload the playlist every loop
[20:06] <llutz> nick|here: 250GB is huge for a system without /home. i'd put /home also on SSD and use the 7200rpm drive as data-drive (mounted somewhere)
[20:06] <aim1159> anybody have an idea where can one find a faq on thing provisioning in ubuntu on kernels >= 3.2?
[20:07] <nick|here> llutz: yeah figured that out just then. checked out my usage. I'll probably do what you proposed.
[20:09] <nick|here> llutz: thanks mate
[20:09] <meowsus> Hey. I just did a fresh install of Quantal. I installed the nvidia-current-updates package, for the drivers for my card, and now my TTY virtual consoles' resolutions are huge and totally unchangeable, from what I can tell from what I read around the internet. Editing /usr/default/grub isn't working for me. Does anyone have a few minutes to help me troubleshoot this?
[20:10] <buddha_dhindsa> newbie_TestMessage
[20:11] <raven_> vlc: how to reload the playlist every loop
[20:11] <meowsus> I hate this channel
[20:11] <raj> is there any point in a quake-like terminal? can't I just configure any terminal to hide/show in a particular location of the screen?
[20:12] <tgm4883> raj, like !guake?
[20:12] <tgm4883> !info guake
[20:12] <auronandace> meowsus: feel free to leave
[20:12] <llutz> raj: or yakuake (kde)
[20:13] <ponke> raj: point -> nostalgia, convenience. but yes, you most certainly can make something similar yourself, one way or another.
[20:13] <meowsus> auronandace: haha, yeah. I do. Thanks ;)
[20:13] <buddha_dhindsa> newbie here....Do you copy
[20:13] <tgm4883> !ask | buddha_dhindsa
[20:14] <raj> tgm4883, llutz, ponke, yes I use both yakuake and guake so I can have multiple terminals available for hide/show with a keystroke
[20:14] <elisa87> what's the reason for this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5608741/ is there any fix to it?
[20:14] <nullby7e> why setup gives me cannot create/initilize hdd (created partition) in hdd partition section?
[20:14] <raj> I, however, would like to just use one terminal
[20:14] <raj> I'd prefer having two guake's, in fact, over two yakuakes
[20:14] <nullby7e> after creating of drive, in copying files
[20:14] <raj> simply because I can copy/paste with ctrl+c and ctrl+v
[20:15] <raj> but both those terminals only allow one session
[20:15] <auronandace> raj: does tmux work inside them?
[20:16] <ponke> raj: so fire up a multiplexer of your choice?
[20:16] <raj> tmux is like screen right?
[20:16] <raj> i'd imagine so
[20:16] <ponke> raj: yes, quite a bit like it, indeed.
[20:16] <raj> oh, I see, you're saying to have tabs in there basically
[20:16] <dougsko> for what its worth, you can definitely run screen inside screen
[20:16] <raj> no, I'd rather have two different consoles
[20:17] <dougsko> it gets confusing though
[20:17] <raj> they have tabs builtin anyway
[20:18] <raj> this is what I currently have http://i.imgur.com/atqgcoj.png
[20:18] <MDTech-us_MAN> Hello
[20:18] <raj> but I'm setting up another system, and it would be nice to have two guakes, or two terminals that allow ctrl+c/v that I can script to hide/show
[20:18]  * MDTech-us_MAN has a problem
[20:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> apt-get output: http://pastebin.com/mBb1itg9   (see last 10 lines)
[20:20] <ponke> raj: sounds like you need to try going -mouse ;P you can split terminals, c/p between them easily and so forth...
[20:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> please help
[20:21] <ponke> raj: the habit would probably empower you in many environments (if you are going in to admin)
[20:21] <raj> ponke, I never use hte mouse! :)
[20:21] <raj> i just like to see split screens with as much realestate as possible
[20:21] <raj> and then hide them quickly
[20:21] <dougsko> raj: you can split screen a screen session
[20:21] <MDTech-us_MAN> why am I getting http://pastebin.com/mBb1itg9 ?
[20:22] <raj> dougsko, I'm aware, but then I'd have to stretch the window too
[20:22] <dougsko> true
[20:22]  * MDTech-us_MAN still needs help!
[20:23] <Anoniman86> Hou are using Steam on Ubuntu Linux with AMD Radeon card here?
[20:23] <ponke> raj: ah well, do what you please, if it works it works :)
[20:23] <raj> i think i'll go with gnome terminal since it allows for multiple windows and ctrl+c/v
[20:23] <auronandace> !please | MDTech-us_MAN
[20:23] <holstein> MDTech-us_MAN: i would reinstall the kernel..
[20:23] <karsten> greetings to all, can someone help me before i surrender? T_T i got the infamous blue faces bug....
[20:23] <MDTech-us_MAN> how?
[20:24] <holstein> MDTech-us_MAN: you can also try installing synaptic and try clicking "fix broken packages" in the menu
[20:24] <karsten> anyone can help me out?
[20:25] <raven_> vlc: how to reload the playlist every loop
[20:25] <auronandace> karsten: change the setting for hardware acceleration in flash
[20:25] <karsten> it makes such error outside flash O_O
[20:25] <karsten> flash is ok
[20:26]  * SevenBizzos yawn
[20:26] <llutz> raven_: try #videolan
[20:26] <auronandace> karsten: then i have no idea what this blue face bug is
[20:26] <karsten> oh damn i'll have to reinstall everything again?
[20:27] <dougsko> karsten: in youtube?
[20:27] <auronandace> karsten: or you could simply describe your issue in more detail
[20:27] <holstein> karsten: none of the volunteers have suggested that you reinstall.. what bug are you referencing?
[20:27] <karsten> ok in simple word
[20:27] <karsten> i have videos in sopcast player that have blue hue
[20:27] <kinj> hello, I have efi system and I wanted to install bootloader on a usb and ubuntu on hd
[20:27] <karsten> in youtube all is ok
[20:27] <dougsko> karsten: perl -pi.bak -e 's/libvdpau/lixvdpau/g' /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[20:28] <dougsko> that fixes it for me in youtube anyway
[20:28] <karsten> in youtube is 100% ok
[20:28] <dougsko> it could still just be a flash issue
[20:28] <auronandace> karsten: sopcast player?
[20:28] <holstein> karsten: what videos? where?
[20:28] <karsten> it's a streaming program that allows to watch tv on it
[20:29] <karsten> sop: streams
[20:29] <auronandace> karsten: if that uses flash then try what i told you above
[20:29] <karsten> it does not
[20:29] <auronandace> karsten: are you certain?
[20:29] <dougsko> MDTech-us_MAN: try getting rid of ndiswrapper temporarily, as per: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/978920
[20:29] <holstein> karsten: you are using http://code.google.com/p/sopcast-player/ ?
[20:30] <karsten> holstein, it should be that one
[20:30] <holstein> karsten: what are you using then?
[20:30] <karsten> sopcast player as i said holstein
[20:30] <holstein> karsten: the one that you just said "it should be that one"? .. then it *is* that one?
[20:30] <kinj> anyone knows how to make a bootable usb for efi system?
[20:30] <holstein> !uefi
[20:30] <karsten> it is that one but i got it from a repository
[20:31] <holstein> karsten: i would try that one ^^
[20:31] <holstein> karsten: that is the one the site suggests you use for your operating system
[20:31] <kinj> actually i want to install  just bootloader on uefi and it should access the iso which resides on the gpt hd
[20:31] <kinj> bootloader on usb
[20:32] <kinj> frugal install
[20:32] <karsten> holstein, you mean the flash fix? youtube videos do play ok, shall i try it anyway?
[20:32] <KeyboardNotFound> Is ubuntu bot ubottu is open source ?
[20:33] <auronandace> !bot | KeyboardNotFound
[20:33] <holstein> karsten: i mean, the version i just linked for the player the site suggests you use
[20:33] <holstein> karsten: if its not flash, then its not flash.. flash fixes wont do it.. but if you are using a ramdom repackaged version from ppa, the site doesnt suggest that.. they suggest the one i linked, and asked if you are running.. and you are not
[20:34] <KeyboardNotFound> can i download and run ubottu script ?
[20:34] <karsten> i have no clue about how to get non .deb packages running
[20:35] <holstein> karsten: there is documentation at the link i gave, that i got from the main site
[20:35] <karsten> holstein, ok i'll look into it, i was suggested to always use repositories. i'll give it a try
[20:35] <holstein> karsten: http://www.sopcast.com/info/contact.html is where i would go for help, since everything else is fine.. after trying the version they suggest
[20:36] <holstein> karsten: i dont find a version in the repositories.. you said you added a ppa, correct?
[20:36] <karsten> holstein, if i'll follow their guide i should uninstall the package i already have ?
[20:37] <holstein> karsten: the package you have, which *didnt* come from the repositories isnt working, correct?
[20:38] <karsten> holstein, it do work perfectly beside the blue hue
[20:38] <Rallias> How do I change which bridge a previously-created LXC vm is attached to?
[20:38] <holstein> karsten: where did you get the package youare using?
[20:39] <janisozaur_> KeyboardNotFound, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bots/ubuntu-bots/devel
[20:40] <karsten> holstein,  i don't remember it was on various ubuntu help pages
[20:41] <Bray90820> so youtube is very choppy on Intel GMA 3150
[20:41] <fbdystang> Hi, noob question. In ubuntu, I have PHP, MySQL and Apache installed. Where do I find the sendmail script file? Is it a part of Ubuntu, PHP, or Apache?
[20:42] <tgm4883> fbdystang, do you have a path to the file?
[20:42] <bekks> fbdystang: What do you mean by "sendmail script file"?
[20:42] <holstein> karsten: it wasnt int he default repos.. and if you have no idea where it came from, you cant ask for help. i would remove it, and install the suggested one.. or deal with the issue
[20:43] <karsten> holstein, going to try it now, sopcast player wasn't in any official repository anywhere
[20:44] <fbdystang> I am using a program that by default calls /usr/sbin/sendmail however, I go to that path and do not find a file. So I am wondering which piece I am missing from PHP, ubuntu, or apache to get it working
[20:44] <achandra> fbdystang, you need to install sendmail if you want that as your smtp relay . its not part of php,mysql or apache
[20:45] <fbdystang> achandra: sudo apt get install sendmail?
[20:45] <bekks> fbdystang: You are missing a MTA. Either sendmail, postfix, exim, qmail, ssmtp, or whatever.
[20:45] <achandra> fbdystang, ^^ exactly
[20:46] <achandra> fbdystang, yes that is correct if you want sendmail..
[20:46] <fbdystang> bekks, achandra, Got it, what does a lamp stack normally use
[20:47] <achandra> fbdystang, are u trying to install a specific set of these packages for a reason? what are u trying to achieve ?
[20:48] <tgm4883> hmm, fun fact. /usr/sbin/sendmail doesn't appear to be in the sendmail package
[20:48] <M1cha> Hi, I thinking about buying a new laptop but it has 1080p at 15.6inch(my current is 1366x768 at 15.6inch) and I fear that the UI will be very smalli in Ubuntu. Does Ubuntu support full dpi-sclaing like android? Last time I tried this only fonts could be scaled.
[20:48] <bekks> fbdystang: The MTA thgat the admin chooses to install.
[20:48] <gnuskool> fbdystang: sendmail on the isps i use
[20:48] <fbdystang> achandra, actually, I installed phpscheduleit on a server a long time ago, and I can't remember what I set up. Everything else works perfectly, but no mail.
[20:49] <kalenjohnson> M1cha, actually I find the UI in ubuntu pretty comfortable. I have the same res and screen size as you
[20:49] <kalenjohnson> but then again, I've been using it for a few years
[20:49] <fbdystang> the default in the config file is usr/bin/sendmail so I am wondering what program usually utilizes that file
[20:49] <kalenjohnson> M1cha, I think you adjust pretty quickly though, and unless you have eye problems, you will appreciate all the screnen real estate
[20:50] <harrisr> can i use a picture as a certain folders icon
[20:50] <karsten> holstein, seems i get an error with the suggested install too
[20:50] <llutz> !find /usr/sbin/sendmail
[20:50] <llutz> fbdystang: there you go
[20:50] <M1cha> kalenjohnson: I really don't like that resolution. In my opinion 1080p on 20inch is already too small.
[20:50] <kalenjohnson> M1cha, I'm not sure about DPI scaling though. You can adjust font sizes and icon sizes
[20:50] <kalenjohnson> M1cha, are you using that resolution with ubuntu?
[20:51] <M1cha> kalenjohnson: adjusting font/icon sizes is very horrible everything is small except fonts then that doesnt look very well
[20:51] <Rimtech> I have 2 VPN connections, one is at tun0 and one is at tun1, how can I make it so that all traffic destined to a specific subnet goes to tun1 and all other traffic to tun0, what would the iptables commands look like
[20:51] <M1cha> I currently use 1366x768 on 15.6 inch and it has the perfect size in my opinion
[20:51] <achandra> fbdystang, if thats the case install sendmail and give that a try
[20:52] <fbdystang> llutz, awesome, but none of those seem to be based on the phpscheduleit.
[20:52] <nick|here> can anyone recommend me a good download manager ? (something along the lines of jDownloader, though i'm not a fan of Java apps much)
[20:52] <tgm4883> fbdystang, what does phpscheduleit have to do with sendmail?
[20:52] <achandra> depending on your religious belief some people find sendmail clunky and overcomplicated with its cf nomenclature
[20:52] <holstein> karsten: you can troubleshoot those erros with the package maintainer ..since you know who that is now
[20:52] <M1cha> kalenjohnson: but if ubuntu is too small for me I cant buy an 1080p laptop. And I'll never use windows (8) :P
[20:52] <fbdystang> achandra, can sendmail run independandtly of ubuntu, apache, and PHP?
[20:53] <karsten> holstein, i can? sound good how would i do that?
[20:53] <achandra> fbdystang, thats sort of like asking can apache run independently of ubuntu, php and sendmail. ;)
[20:53] <fbdystang> tgm4883: /usr/sbin/sendmail is listed as the default sendmail script
[20:54] <achandra> fbdystang, its an app or service built for a purpose -- to act as an MTA.   So whether it runs on ubuntu or not is like asking does it run on sun solaris
[20:54] <llutz> fbdystang: and all those packages listed above provide that program/funcionality. so what is your problem?
[20:54] <achandra> fbdystang, just dont expect that people will help u here if decide to run it on a sun box ;)
[20:54] <kalenjohnson> M1cha, well I'm not sure if you can do DPI scaling like in android or Windows. It's not in the standard settings, but you might want to check out extra programs like CCSM or one of the Unity editor programs
[20:55] <holstein> karsten: i would literally ask them.. email, or whatever is suggested when you go to support
[20:55] <tgm4883> fbdystang, so? I wouldn't expect sendmail to ack the existance of phpscheduleit
[20:55] <kalenjohnson> M1cha, otherwise, your option is either to find a different laptop or set the resolution lower. Neither is ideal, but that's how it goes.
[20:55] <fbdystang> achandra, Ok, that is answers it. I am not using sun, nor would I want to.
[20:55] <kalenjohnson> M1cha, in my opinion, it's better to have too many pixels than too little :)
[20:56] <M1cha> if I set the resolution lower. Couldn't the image get blurred due to the scaling?
[20:56] <achandra> fbdystang, u need to understand the relationship of the os ubuntu, against the services and apps that are supported or offered on it
[20:56] <achandra> fbdystang, then understand that there is potential interaction between those apps. and notice my language...potential
[20:57] <karsten> holstein, thanks for all i'm completely new to linux and i've had some big problems managing it so far :)
[20:57] <achandra> fbdystang, they can run independent of one another or together... to support some application
[20:57] <fbdystang> I am self taught over many years playing with linux, no formal training, so I have just put the pieces together, broken stuff, and fixed other stuff. So you are right
[20:57] <M1cha> I don't have good eyes and If an letter is smaller than 1/4 inch its hard to read it for me
[20:57] <achandra> fbdystang, might behoove you to go to ubuntu1 and download the server edition book...its useful and will teach a lot
[20:58] <kalenjohnson> M1cha, it won't be as sharp as having it at full resolution, but give it a try and see if you notice
[20:58] <achandra> fbdystang, its not that expensive, and probably worth the buy
[20:58] <kalenjohnson> M1cha, I mean, if you don't notice a slight blur, then you can use a lower resolution without issue
[20:58] <fbdystang> achandra, I thank you for the advice. Looking into it right now :)
[20:59] <M1cha> kalenjohnson: I'll have to find an laptop in a store which I can try. most laptops sold in store here are crap and don't have such resolutions :P
[20:59] <M1cha> but thx for your help so far
[20:59] <kalenjohnson> M1cha, but you said you had a 20" monitor, try it on there. It'll probably be less noticeable on a smaller laptop
[21:00] <M1cha> I had such an monitor at work once. but thats some time ago
[21:00] <kalenjohnson> oh i see
[21:00] <achandra> why is it that people send private IMs when you know im NOT going to answer
[21:00] <M1cha> but I'll find a system to try
[21:01] <achandra> this has got to easily be the 10th time
[21:01] <achandra> anyone get these?
[21:01]  * kalenjohnson messages achandra, desperately hoping for a reply
[21:01] <achandra> seriously
[21:01]  * tgm4883 messages achandra as well
[21:01] <achandra> very annoying
[21:02] <achandra> i dont want to buy tomato sauce, or be asked if i own a turbo toilet and need service
[21:02] <achandra> ;)
[21:03] <elisa87> My llvm version is 3.1 . Do you know why I am receiving this error and how to fix it? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -l-lLLVMAsmParser
[21:03] <elisa87>  
[21:04] <elisa87> Could you please take a look at this ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5608924/
[21:04] <kinj> 	I have a live usb for ubuntu and I want to boot thru an iso on hd
[21:06] <kinj> i have a efi system
[21:07] <M1cha> how soon will ubuntu's xserver replacement be ready? maybe then they support dpi scaling :P
[21:08] <SonikkuAmerica> kinj: Did you check the EFI documentation?
[21:13] <creese> When I ssh into localhost, it doesn't load my .profile. Any idea why this is so?
[21:14] <elisa87> !find "llvm asm parser"
[21:14] <elisa87> How to install "LLVMAsmParser" ? LLM Asm Parser
[21:14] <MoPac> Need grub help (rather urgent).  My root directory is an LV inside a LUKS container.  After new kernel and re-installing grub MBR from live USB, grub works but cannot find my root directory.  It does not seem to understand that it needs to open the LUKS container first.  I  have looked through backed-up boot config files but cannot spot the difference. Help please!
[21:16] <MoPac> (Clarifying above: I also installed new kernel from Live USB, with both root LV and boot primary partition mounted.  This is probably why, when it wrote the config, it didn't realize it had to deal with a LUKS step)
[21:17] <MoPac> !luks
[21:22] <ojkolsrud> testing...=P first time run
[21:22] <proby> raj:  from india ?
[21:23] <ojkolsrud> proby: receiving? I wanna test this..
[21:23] <Linux_N00b> I wanna create an ISO image to burn a mkv file which is larger than 4 GiB. When using genisoimage I'm getting this error File file.mkv is larger than 4GiB-1. -allow-limited-size was not specified. There is no way do represent this file size. Aborting. Any idea?
[21:24] <proby> ojkolsrud:  do a ping
[21:24] <trism> elisa87: it is in llvm-3.1-dev, but your problem there is probably that you have two -l in a row, it is just -lname
[21:24] <raj> proby, what gave it away =P
[21:24] <ojkolsrud> proby: is the ping command /   ping?
[21:25] <harrisr> well
[21:25] <kalenjohnson> Linux_N00b, are you on a 32-bit system?
[21:25] <ojkolsrud> proby: what for, anyways?=P
[21:25] <Linux_N00b> Yes
[21:25] <proby> it is to ping
[21:25] <proby> :ping
[21:25] <proby> !ping
[21:25] <Linux_N00b> Ubuntu Precise Pangolin 32 bit
[21:25] <ojkolsrud> !ping
[21:25] <proby> pong :p
[21:25] <harrisr> can i use a picture as a certain folders icon
[21:25] <harrisr> can i use a picture as a certain folders icon
[21:25] <harrisr> can i use a picture as a certain folders icon
[21:25] <FloodBot1> harrisr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <ojkolsrud> proby: yeah, i know what ping is, but what would you read out of my latency?=P
[21:26] <kalenjohnson> Linux_N00b, I dont remember if it's 32-bit systems or a specific filesystem that doesn't support files larger than 4gb
[21:26] <harrisr> can i use a picture as a certain folders icon
[21:26] <kalenjohnson> Linux_N00b, but that sounds like it could be your problem
[21:26] <harrisr> can i use a picture as a certain folders icon
[21:26] <elisa87> trism:   trism: elisa87: it is in llvm-3.1-dev, but your problem there is probably that you have two -l in a row, it is just -lname (CAN YOU PLEASE explain more ? :) )
[21:26] <ojkolsrud> harrisr: i think you'd have to draw it yourself
[21:26] <k1l> !patience | harrisr
[21:26] <harrisr> ojkolsrud, i have the picture
[21:27] <trism> elisa87: like when you link to libm, it is -lm not -l-lm, so -lLLVMAsmParser not -l-lLLVMAsmParser
[21:28] <soahccc> What is the best choice to virtualize an ubuntu host whereas the host performance is much more important than the guest performance. The best would be an interoperability solution. My first thought was virtual box :)
[21:28] <ojkolsrud> harrisr: in that case, first try scaling it down, to say 150x150px using gimp or something... Man, I began explaining thinking you wanted to change a program's icon=P sorry, I'm not sure. But, I bet someone knows, if you googled it
[21:29] <elisa87> trism so should I hack the script I am given? There's nothing wrong with my system?
[21:30] <trism> elisa87: I have no idea, that is just my impression from the pastebin output
[21:31] <ojkolsrud> I'm using irssi here now.. how to A) change username? and B) join other networks while still being connected here?
[21:31] <mattviator> need a hand getting my broadcom 4312 wifi going
[21:32] <mattviator> enable networking has the check next to it  enable wifi it wont let me click there
[21:32] <harrisr> can i use a picture as a certain folders icon
[21:32] <firstworld> does lilo still run freenode?
[21:33] <mattviator> a folder icon is essentaillty a picture
[21:34] <ojkolsrud> harrisr: which file manager do you use?
[21:35] <DoWhileGeek> ok, so I'm trying to access a usb device serially, but I dont know which it is because theres like, 30 "tty" things in the /dev/ folder. How do I figure out which it is?
[21:36] <tgm4883> DoWhileGeek, aren't usb devices usually 'ttyUSB#'
[21:36] <tgm4883> DoWhileGeek, also, you could look at dmesg
[21:37] <mattviator> right click a folder's icon, click on properties in the contextual menu, in the properties window click on the framed icon (top left)
[21:38] <mattviator> that should open the dialog to choose a new icon
[21:39] <MoPac> elisa87: you wouldn't happen to be the one who last July wrote  an extended how-to for kernel restore from live USB, would you?  (Sorry if mistaken; name and age are close)
[21:41] <Bray90820> Anyone wanna help me get my GMA 3150 working
[21:41] <raj> why does no one ever talk about gnome terminal being a go-to option for terminals?
[21:42] <Bray90820> with my GMA 3150 the playback is very choppy
[21:43] <kRypt0n> hi, got an issue with firefox
[21:45] <kRypt0n> when firefox starts maximized, it's not completely maximized, it's like a few pixels short from the right side
[21:47] <elisa87> How can I search inside files of a folder  (grep -irn is wrong? )
[21:48] <elisa87>  grep -irn '-l-lLLVMAsmParser' *
[21:48] <elisa87> grep: invalid option -- '-'
[21:48] <elisa87> Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...
[21:48] <elisa87> Try `grep --help' for more information.
[21:48] <iwannaflingpoo> elisa87: do you have a file in that directory that starts with a - character?
[21:49] <trism> elisa87: -l is an argument to gcc not part of the lib, the lib name is just LLVMAsmParser
[21:49] <cesar__>  .
[21:50] <elisa87> trism:  iwannaflingpoo I want to see where it has been defined like that! I don't know how to fix the error in the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/5609039/
[21:50] <MoPac> I would very much appreciate any help with getting my grub2 bootloader to load the dm_crypt module and unlock my LUKS partition before trying to open my root LV, which for obvious reasons it can't find right now
[21:51] <elisa87> trism: I got it. The problem is that I haven't written the script and can't find where it has been defined
[21:52] <solid> 1
[21:54] <elisa87> trism it is defined like this ..I found that script http://paste.ubuntu.com/5609057/
[21:54] <trism> elisa87: line 24 is your problem
[21:55] <elisa87> trism should I just comment it ? Or should I modify it ?
[21:55] <trism> elisa87: or alternatively, putting -l in front of all the names in the libs array
[21:56] <trism> elisa87: yes you could just comment it
[21:57] <dbugger> Guys, When I do "alsamixer", I dont see line-in. Can anyone help me find out why?
[21:58] <Griz64> G'day folks. I need to speak with a wifi (pcmcia) guru, please. ;-)  seems 12.04 thinks my card has a HARDWARE SWITCH on it and won't activate it.
[21:59] <DoWhileGeek> tgm4883: I'm trying to connect to a "port", and the app just gives a selection and theye all tty's
[22:00] <fire> can cinnamon be installed on ubuntu ?
[22:00] <Griz64> DoWhileGeek, ttyS0 = COM1, ttyS1=COM2, etc.
[22:01] <DoWhileGeek> Griz64: aha!
[22:01] <Griz64> ;-)
[22:05] <keepguessing> hi I have ubuntu 12.04 installed. I am behind a procy server at my office and I face issues with configuring the software center
[22:05] <keepguessing> I have tried setting the proxy using the network tool
[22:05] <keepguessing> But no matter what I do I am unable to select a different mirror
[22:06] <Guest41572> hey
[22:09] <elisa87> trism:  Thank you so much. It fixed the error :)
[22:09] <rzyz> hello, does the display manager have to  continue to run after a login?
[22:09] <limac> hi i just changed my permissions in var/www by adding users to group and i made it so that users can add/delete files. but when i go to save a file in it as a regular user...it says permission denied.
[22:09] <limac> did i do something wrong?
[22:09] <histo> keepguessing: can you browse the web normally on that machine?
[22:10] <keepguessing> histo: yup
[22:10] <histo> limac: please pastebin the output of ls -l /var/www   and groups as one of your "users"
[22:10] <keepguessing> i am able to wget from the command line
[22:10] <keepguessing> apt-get install also works
[22:10] <rzyz> because, it take 50Mo of RAM , and a never go to the the login page.
[22:10] <histo> keepguessing: So what is the problem with the repo then?
[22:11] <keepguessing> the repo is slow so i tried using the software sources to search for a new mirror
[22:11] <rzyz> does any one has an idea?
[22:11] <keepguessing> it keeps coming back with unable to find mirror
[22:11] <bekks> rzyz: The display manager to run, yes.
[22:11] <limac> histo: http://pastebin.com/nFE348uu
[22:11] <keepguessing> my mirror is pretty slow. but i am on a pretty fast internet.
[22:12] <histo> keepguessing: mirrors.ubuntu.com
[22:12] <rzyz> bekks, what is his job when i am on the xfce4 desktop?
[22:13] <histo> limac: sorry need the output of ls -l /var
[22:13] <keepguessing> histo but how should i know which one to select
[22:13] <bekks> rzyz: its job is managing your display(s).
[22:13] <histo> keepguessing: by your country code
[22:13] <keepguessing> histo: ah my country ppa is pretty slow
[22:14] <histo> keepguessing: Well ppa's are different now.
[22:14] <limac> histo: here you go http://pastebin.com/ujtPg2TY
[22:14] <keepguessing> histo: I am using my countrys mirror currently btw
[22:14] <larst> hi all
[22:14] <larst> should I fetch 12.10 or 12.04?
[22:14] <histo> limac: are the users trying to create files there or edit them?
[22:14] <rzyz> bekks, so.. what's the difference with the wm  ( xfwm4 in my case) ?
[22:14] <limac> histo: create them
[22:15] <limac> histo: im trying to save a file i wrote in gedit to that folder
[22:15] <histo> limac: well your user limac isn't a member of the users group
[22:15] <bekks> rzyz: The window manager is irrelevant at that point-
[22:16] <jpds> larst: Whichever you prefer.
[22:16] <rzyz> bekks, do you have a link that explain this subject?
[22:16] <limac> histo: oops. my bad i fixed it now. i should have put limac as the group
[22:17] <limac> thank you for the help histo :)
[22:17] <limac> and it works now
[22:17] <histo> limac: np that will just be for your user.   There are several ways to accomplish what you want system wide if other users need access
[22:17] <larst> should I fetch 12.10 or 12.04?
[22:18] <auronandace> larst: up to you
[22:18] <larst> hm
[22:18] <larst> !satfdl
[22:18] <larst> !mark
[22:18] <limac> histo: i just need it for myself now (also, im the only account on my system)
[22:18] <larst> !sabdfl
[22:19] <larst> !lts
[22:19] <larst> !Precise
[22:20] <histo> !botabuse | larst
[22:20] <larst> ok
[22:20] <histo> larst:  12.04 is Long term support
[22:20] <maxjezy> http://www.svtplay.se/video/1093201/bomblarm-i-stockholm
[22:21] <histo> larst: 12.10 has some updated packages as it came out 6 months later. And 13.04 is coming out next month. If you are going to be running something in a production environment I would run 12.04
[22:21] <larst> histo: there are drastic changes
[22:21] <histo> !ot | maxjezy
[22:21] <histo> larst: Not really.
[22:22] <larst> histo: yes there are
[22:22] <maxjezy> oy, sorry
[22:22] <larst> histo: didn't you read Mark Shuttleworths blog?
[22:22] <histo> larst: Changes in which version?
[22:22] <larst> histo: in general
[22:22] <jpds> larst: "drastic", don't be so melodramatic.
[22:22] <holstein> there are changes, but those changes are arguably "drastic" and 12.04 *is* suggested for production environments
[22:22] <larst> histo: nonLTS might only have 7 months in future
[22:22] <k1l> larst: do you have a actual technical support issue?
[22:23] <TheDracle> I'm trying to get GLSlideshow to use an RSS feed URL. http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/man2.html
[22:23] <TheDracle> I use xscreensaver-demo, but whenever I add an RSS URL, it mangles the URL, and says it's an "Invalid Directory"
[22:23] <histo> larst: Are you asking a question then?
[22:24] <jpds> larst: Try them both for yourself, and see which one fits best for you.
[22:24] <larst> histo: I'm using Mint 14 and I think about changing to Ubuntu 12.04.2
[22:24] <TheDracle> I.E: Entering into 'Choose Random Image' on the 'Advanced' tab http://test.org gets converted to: http:/test.rrg
[22:24] <Griz64> G'day folks. I need to speak with a wifi (pcmcia) guru, please. ;-)  seems 12.04 thinks my card has a HARDWARE SWITCH on it and won't activate it nor does Network-Manager see either my wired or wireless connections..
[22:29] <glevilrec> why does ubuntu hurts my eye
[22:29] <Seveas> glevilrec: you're not supposed to stab your eye with the dvd!
[22:29] <dbugger> Guys, When I do "alsamixer", I dont see line-in. Can anyone help me find out why?
[22:30] <glevilrec> lol
[22:30] <Seveas> dbugger: hit F4 to switch to capture controls.
[22:31] <Bray90820> Anyone wanna help me get my graphics driver working
[22:31] <Seveas> !anyone | Bray90820
[22:31] <Bray90820> ok i will just ask
[22:31] <Bray90820> i have an intel gma 3150 and i can't get the graphics driver working  correctly
[22:32] <Seveas> !doesn't work
[22:32] <Bray90820> as of right now i can watch youtube in windowed mode but the second i go full screen it stutters
[22:33] <Bray90820> like i can watch youtube windows in 1080 p perfectly but full screen at 480p stutters
[22:33] <holstein> Bray90820: i would have realistic expectations.. i would try chrome browser with the current version of flash ..i would test other vids (not flash)
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> Bray90820: What's your CPU & RAM?
[22:34] <thulsa_d00m> hola everyone
[22:34] <histo> Bray90820: What browser are you trying in?
[22:34] <Bray90820> firefox 1.5 GHz Intel Atom and 2gb ram
[22:34] <Bray90820> 64bit
[22:34] <histo> ohboy
[22:35] <histo> Bray90820: try chromium  or html5 and test
[22:35] <jhutchins_wk> Bray90820: What resolution?
[22:35] <histo> Bray90820: also are you running 64bit or 32bit ubuntu?
[22:35] <histo> Bray90820: sorry meant were you running 64 or 32bit windows before?
[22:35] <holstein> Bray90820: too bad.. i dont think the 64bit chrome has the flash that is supported
[22:36] <histo> holstein: chrome has flash built in
[22:36] <Bray90820> i was never using windows
[22:36] <Bray90820> only ubuntu
[22:36] <histo> Bray90820: You said windows can do it fullscreen
[22:36] <k1l> i dont think the atom got enough power anyway
[22:36] <holstein> histo: i was told the 64bit version doesnt.. and in my tests, that has been supported
[22:36] <Bray90820> no
[22:36] <Bray90820> i said i can do it windowed meaning not full screen
[22:36] <histo> holstein: I'm running it here with flash built in right from google's repo so no idea what you are talking about.
[22:37] <Bray90820> histo i said Windowed meaning not full screen
[22:37] <histo> Bray90820: ahh yes.  It's a struggle to get an atom to run fullscreen flash. I have an atom based system with an nvidia GPU and it struggles with fullscreen flash using hardware acceleration.
[22:37] <jhutchins_wk> Bray90820: Again, what resolution are you trying to run full screen?  Your CPU may not be powerful enough.
[22:37] <holstein> histo: i'll PM you if you'd like.. what im talking about is, i was told the 64bit version doesnt provide its own flash.. it=chrome..
[22:38] <histo> holstein: it does
[22:38] <holstein> histo: when i go to http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ from the only 64bit install i have, the results do not support that
[22:38] <jhutchins_wk> I thought chrome used html5 instead of flash.
[22:38] <holstein> histo: i will check again
[22:38] <Bray90820> jhutchins_wk 480p but 1080 p can run fine not full screen
[22:39] <jhutchins_wk> Bray90820: I mean what is the screen resolution you're trying to run it on, not the signal res.
[22:39] <aguitel> i am in old laptop running 10.04 ,how install ati drivers ,video card is :ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[22:39] <Bray90820> what is my screen resolution?
[22:39] <histo> holstein: http://imagebin.org/250027
[22:40] <jhutchins_wk> Bray90820: xrandr in a console will tell you.
[22:40] <holstein> histo: looks good..
[22:40] <jhutchins_wk> Bray90820: mine says DVI-0 connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 430mm x 270mm
[22:40] <Bray90820> jhutchins_wk 1366X1768
[22:41] <jhutchins_wk> Bray90820: I think you might find that a 1.5G Atom just can't do full screen flash at that res.  You could experiement with reducing it step by step and see where it starts to run smoothly.
[22:42] <holstein> Bray90820: you can try html5 http://www.youtube.com/html5
[22:43] <cronus> Bray90820, 1768? are you sure?
[22:43] <Bray90820> cronus 1366X768
[22:44] <cronus> Bray90820, oh right. I have the same resolution and the same problem on a different card
[22:45] <EMPHASIS> What's a good OCR program, plz?
[22:47] <Bray90820> cronus so it's just a limitation of flash?
[22:47] <holstein> Bray90820: thats what i agree with.. you can try the flash from chrome, or html5 ..or play a vid locally
[22:47] <Bray90820> yea
[22:48] <Bray90820> i hope it's not my card
[22:48] <Bray90820> because i watch a lot of videos with xbmc
[22:48] <cronus> Bray90820, i don't know. i have heard that flash does not use video acceleration
[22:48] <dbugger> Seveas, I did, but line in doesnt appear there neither
[22:48] <EMPHASIS> A good OCR program, anyone? Please?
[22:49] <dbugger> Seveas, just a CAPTURE device, but I think thats not the Line in
[22:49] <cronus> Bray90820, because it has to do some postprocessing...
[22:49] <holstein> !ocr
[22:49] <holstein> EMPHASIS: ^^
[22:49] <EMPHASIS> ubottu: thanks.
[22:50] <EMPHASIS> holstein: ditto thanks
[22:50] <Bray90820> i guess i wil just have to try my video stuff out and see what works and what doesn't
[22:50] <judahitewarrior7> I am trying to make a bootable Windows 7 USB flash drive from within Ubuntu, can anyone help me with this?
[22:51] <hubuntu> if I am going to have some VMs runnning in my desktop, which ubuntu version should I use?
[22:51] <hubuntu> this is mainly for testing varnish and additional tools (server software only)
[22:53] <hubuntu> just use ubuntu-server? or is there a jeos or cloud thing? I will be using kvm
[22:53] <aguitel> i am in old laptop running 10.04 ,how install ati drivers ,video card is :ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[22:54] <histo> !ati | aguitel
[22:55] <cronus> hubuntu, maybe not what you want, but i think juju a nice tool for these types of tests. it uses lxc though...
[22:56] <brotherBox> Hello people. I have a huge problem with encrypted partitions and fear that all my data are lost. I had a setup of a Windows installation, a free partition and an extended partition, containing Ubuntu.
[22:57] <hubuntu> cronus, thanks for the tip, but I will test admin (java) and stats tools (zeromq+protobuf) for varnish, so I think I will do a bare -server install
[22:57] <brotherBox> This extended partition had four logical partitions, a boot partition, a root partition, a home partition and a swap partition, of which the last three (/, /home and swap) were LUKS encrypted with the alternate installation
[22:58] <g3org3s> hello , i installed ubuntu 12 but i dont like the bar on the left , how can i make it look like old ubuntu ? like a start button in windows
[22:58] <brotherBox> After re-installing Windows (it was a corporate Windows version full of adverts) I wanted to restore GRUB, so I followed the instructions on an Ubuntu website, which mentioned a tool called "Boot-Repair"
[22:58] <Ben64> !nounity | g3org3s
[22:59] <jatakk> g3org3s: The bar is on the left because you're using Unity. The only thing you can do is install a different DE.
[22:59] <brotherBox> After running this one, the extended partition is shown as "unallocated" and GRUB won't install from the rescatux cd
[22:59] <jatakk> g3org3s: I recommend Cinnamon or Xfce.
[22:59] <Ben64> don't use cinnamon if you want support here
[22:59] <brotherBox> What can I do? I fear that all my data is lost since I was naive enough to not have a backup ;_;
[22:59] <jatakk> Ben64: Why not?
[22:59] <Ben64> because... it's not supported here
[23:00] <jatakk> Ben64: What do you mean supported? Nothing is "supported", it's just an IRC channel.
[23:00] <g3org3s> thank you all will try that
[23:00] <jatakk> Ben64: It's not like we're only allowed to talk about Unity
[23:00] <Ben64> jatakk: this is an ubuntu support channel, we support ubuntu here, not cinnamon
[23:01] <jatakk> Ben64: Are you a moderator?
[23:01] <k1l_> jatakk: we dont support cinnamon in here since its not in the repos.
[23:01] <holstein> jatakk: check the guidelines and channel topic
[23:01] <Ben64> that is not relevant
[23:01] <thulsa_d00m> i think a little explanation might help jattak understand if anyone would be so kink
[23:01] <thulsa_d00m> *kind
[23:01] <brotherBox> Anyone?
[23:02] <mrawesome_> how can i remotly connect to the internet from a different computer in linux
[23:02] <jatakk> If it's a rule I'll follow it, however stupid it may be...
[23:02] <g3org3s> Ben64, investigate gnome-tweak-tool ? can u elaborate a bit plz ?
[23:03] <Ben64> jatakk: basically what k1l_ said is right. we only support things in the official repositories
[23:03] <twist3d> brotherBox, unfortunately it looks like your hard drive is doing exactly what it told you
[23:03] <Ben64> g3org3s: do you have 12.04 or 12.10
[23:03] <g3org3s> 12.04
[23:03] <twist3d> *you told it
[23:03] <thulsa_d00m> jatakk, from the little i've read, cinnamon is not the "official" DE supported by ubuntu, while others such as xfce are
[23:03] <khildin> Hello all.... I need some help to fix Unity shell... When I log in with Unity, I don't get a launchbar and no Dash... no menu on top of screen.
[23:04] <khildin> I use 12.10
[23:04] <twist3d> brotherBox, you can try undelete me to recover the partition
[23:04] <Fenaralan> anyone here knows about notebook ram memories?
[23:04] <Ben64> g3org3s: then you can install gnome-panel and you can have a gnome2 style desktop
[23:04] <khildin> I already tried all the reset options, incuding deleting profile settings
[23:04] <khildin> got an errorlog here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5609204/
[23:04] <khildin> any suggestions?
[23:04] <OerHeks> brotherBox,  i have no experience restoring grub2 with encrypted ubuntu, maybe this page is any help >> http://stephentanner.com/index.php/2011/05/restoring-grub-for-an-encrypted-lvm/
[23:05] <OerHeks> brotherBox, i think your data is still there, maybe you want to mount the encrypted partition to backup your data first
[23:05] <g3org3s> Ben64, how can i make it run default on my ubuntu ?
[23:05] <notme> !
[23:05] <notme> Hi, I am looking for a cluster management software for Ubuntu. Something like Rocks/Scyld/Bright cluster manager. I need this to build HPC cluster with Ubuntu for my company, we will pay support/licensing. Does anyone know such a product?
[23:05] <Ben64> khildin: you need 3d video drivers
[23:05] <brotherBox> twist3d, pardon? I never told the tool to mess around with my encrypted partitions. Can you please link me to this "Undelete me"? I get results that are not helpful to me
[23:06] <Ben64> g3org3s: once you install gnome-panel, you can choose "gnome fallback" from the login screen, and then it will work
[23:06] <brotherBox> OerHeks, the damage is already done I fear. If you allow I will boot into a linux live system to give you more information. Please hold on a few minutes.
[23:06] <khildin> 3D for intel onboard videochip?
[23:06] <Ben64> khildin: do you have a dual gpu thing?
[23:06] <twist3d> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery/NtfsUndelete
[23:07] <brotherBox> Brb
[23:07] <khildin> Ben64: no it's an old HP laptop
[23:07] <khildin> but unity did work before
[23:08] <Ben64> khildin: you sure its intel? i've only seen this problem on ati and nvidia
[23:08] <khildin> it's an HP 6910p laptop.... as far as I know it has intel onboard video
[23:09] <Ben64> khildin: well then... i'm not sure what the problem is, sorry
[23:09] <g3org3s> Ben64, getting this error http://pastebin.com/VnEEzG6k
[23:10] <Ben64> g3org3s: you have to log out and then choose gnome fallback before logging in
[23:11] <g3org3s> Ben64, thank you will try that now
[23:14] <Bray90820> HTML5 works so much better then Flash
[23:15] <Bray90820> but does anyone know where i could find an HTML5 video to test out HD
[23:15] <Pici> Bray90820: http://www.youtube.com/html5
[23:15] <tgm4883> Bray90820, http://www.quirksmode.org/html5/tests/video.html
[23:16] <Bray90820> pici i couldn't tell if i was watching HTML5 on youtube or not
[23:16] <Bray90820> tgm4883 is that HD
[23:17] <tgm4883> Bray90820, IDK, let me look
[23:17] <Bray90820> ok
[23:17] <Bray90820> thank you
[23:19] <Bray90820> gm4883 i will be back n about 40 minutes
[23:19]  * Bray90820 is away
[23:24] <Mar8elina> hi
[23:24] <tgm4883> Bray90820, here you go  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v2L2UGZJAM
[23:25] <tgm4883> Bray90820, be sure to change it to 1080p then during playback right click the video and see if it's html5
[23:26] <jonnyf1ve> can sombody give me some advice on LTSP
[23:27] <Mar8elina> pws mporw na milhsw me atoma?
[23:27] <kostkon> !gr | Mar8elina
[23:28] <Mar8elina> euxaristw
[23:29] <jonnyf1ve> Anybody have advice on LTSP
[23:29] <holstein> jonnyf1ve: just set it up and try it
[23:29] <jamesd>  why ubuntu not enable sshd by default!!! that is just anti unix!!! or they blocked it via firewall..
[23:30] <jonnyf1ve> i want to know do i have to have a dhcp server all the thin clients in my office already have static ips will it still work
[23:30] <holstein> !ltsp
[23:30] <ponke_> jonnyf1ve: there's nothing really hindering a working scenario with such a setup, just don't mess up with the ranges.
[23:31] <ubun22> is the ubuntu phone, ubuntu laptop and ubuntu desktop running the same OS?
[23:31] <ubun22> i mean ubuntu tablet instead of laptop
[23:32] <k1l_> jamesd: just install the ssh server.
[23:32] <brotherBox> I am back.
[23:32] <brotherBox> Sorry, Windows took so freaking long to install the updates...
[23:32] <khildin> Ben64: I double checked and I have a Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[23:32] <ponke_> ubun22: probably depends on your definition of "OS", read more at http://www.ubuntu.com/devices
[23:32] <k1l_> ubun22: no, its based on different systems. but its planned to be the same system with 14.04
[23:32] <jamesd> k1l_, i will but now i just came down stairs, figured i would configure the rest of the stuff remotely, i installed the system and dhcp for the networking and username...
[23:33] <k1l_> jamesd: its not blocking ssh in any way. so install the ssh and its working.
[23:33] <khildin> I am a bit out of ideas how to fix this.... :-/
[23:33] <Ben64> khildin: yeah i googled the model number you gave and it is intel. so i'm not sure why it's not working
[23:33] <Ben64> khildin: perhaps the intel driver isn't loaded
[23:33] <jamesd> k1ng, i know.. just bitching before i go back up stairs...
[23:34] <k1l_> jamesd: then please consider not using this channel for ranting. this is a technical support channel
[23:34] <khildin> lspci | grep VGA gave me the exact model
[23:34] <intrader> I have an overheating laptop - when psensor temp2 exceeds 100C the laptop shutdows. This invariably happens with any full screen video (temp2 rapidly increases). I have tried jupiter. An alternate distro like Mint, Solaris, or Suse does not have the problem with same clip and browser (firefox). I am running linux 12.04.
[23:34] <ponke_> jamesd: sshd default on for a consumer distro  would be the definition of idiotic
[23:34] <ubun22> ponke_ k1l_ : are all of the different versions open source?
[23:34] <k1ng> jamesd, what?
[23:34] <k1l_> ubun22: yes
[23:34] <Ben64> khildin: pastebin "lsmod" maybe?
[23:34] <k1l_> k1ng: tabfail
[23:35] <k1ng> failtab
[23:35] <brotherBox> I am taking a screenshot of the hard drive scheme shown by gparted
[23:37] <brotherBox> http://i.imgur.com/RE78KfI.png
[23:37] <brotherBox> The first partition is the boot thingy for Windows, sda2 is the Windows partition, sda3 is empty by choice
[23:37] <jamesd> perhaps i should file a bug report or would it be a request for enhancement, or perhaps a performance regression, ubuntu used to install sshd by default its helpful if the user has more than one system and would like to securely transfer files.
[23:38] <brotherBox> sda4 is the extended partition with boot, root and home in it. Apparently, the swap partition is excluded from the "merge" that took place, but it is still encrypted.
[23:38] <brotherBox> The huge chunk in the middle however got messed up by the boot-repair program. What choices do I have?
[23:40] <ponke_> jamesd: pointless, really. never going to happen because of the resulting unsecure default setups that would flourish as a result of such a policy. just mod. your rollout accordingly.
[23:42] <OerHeks> brotherBox, that looks really messed up, i am not sure testdisk can resolve this
[23:43] <brotherBox> I have one last hope...could I somehow search for the "partition" headers in the chunk?
[23:45] <khildin> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5609301/
[23:46] <froek> is there a specific channel discussing ubuntu for devices?
[23:46] <froek> tablets/phones/android etc..
[23:46] <ikonia> froek: #ubuntu-touch
[23:46] <froek> ikonia, cheers
[23:47] <brotherBox> I am scanning the disk with testdisk now
[23:47] <brotherBox> Thanks so far, I'll see where this gets me.
[23:47] <OerHeks> brotherBox, maybe testdisk can > http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[23:48] <brotherBox> I am on it OerHeks
[23:48] <brotherBox> Thanks for you help guys. I really appreciate it.
[23:48] <yourimym1> hey need help to delete kde component , cuz i don't want them in updates like this http://uppix.net/4/9/7/f0f8f2c588143da95f718826c19c8.png
[23:48] <ic3> hi, does anybody know how to fix lightwm bug -> can't login, just throwing back to the login screen. works for `guest' user. gdm also works
[23:49] <yourimym1> !Metasploit
[23:50] <Ben64> khildin: well you have the driver loaded...
[23:50] <shadowflee> R.I.P Aaron Swartz  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ-E8ckq1MU
[23:50] <ikonia> yourimym1: you want help with what ?
[23:50] <Ben64> khildin: can you run "glxgears" ? it may require you to install a package
[23:50] <siezer> hello. I'm on a 64 bit box, and would like to install a 32 bit package with a lot of deps.. I've already enabled the repo, but am having trouble coming up with the correct apt incantation. any help?
[23:50] <ikonia> siezer: strongly advise against that
[23:50] <ikonia> siezer: use packages designed for your architecture, or designed for multilib
[23:51] <OerHeks> ic3, known issue with .Xauthority  after update, see answer #2 >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1036830
[23:51] <ikonia> shadowflee: don't need to see that stuff, please don't post it again. This channel is for ubuntu support only
[23:51] <yourimym1> ikonia: delete kde component after unsuccessful installing  , to prevent it from updates or neither appear on update list like this http://uppix.net/4/9/7/f0f8f2c588143da95f718826c19c8.png
[23:51] <khildin> Ben64: does it require to add a specific PPA
[23:51] <ikonia> yourimym1: open package manager, select components, click remove
[23:51] <khildin> ??
[23:51] <Ben64> khildin: no
[23:52] <holstein> yourimym1: choose them by name.. or just ignore them
[23:52] <siezer> ikonia yep. I'm well aware. but I have a strange and specific use case and need to override
[23:52] <khildin> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5609316/
[23:52] <khildin> that's the output
[23:52] <ikonia> siezer: unless it's designed for multilib - it's not going to work
[23:53] <Ben64> khildin: "lshw -C VIDEO | grep -i driver" just paste the driver line, like this is mine ---- configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[23:54] <khildin> configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[23:54] <khildin> looks ok to me
[23:55] <BLZbubba> where does Ubuntu keep the screen rotation setting?
[23:56] <ic3> OerHeks: it works. thanks
[23:56] <Ben64> khildin: yeah i'm confused. maybe someone else here has more ideas
[23:56] <BLZbubba> in nouveau it does some kind of xrandr request to apply the setting I choose in the display config
[23:56] <OerHeks> ic3 have fun
[23:56] <BLZbubba> if i change it, the setting only stays until i log off
[23:57] <yourimym1> ikonia: holstein : this is the whole ppa i have which one to remove  http://uppix.net/e/b/2/9922baf611c9a9da16ef52bd9eee6.png
[23:57] <yourimym1> http://uppix.net/1/3/b/844a35986be6d13dde539e4b55290.png
[23:57] <holstein> !ppa-purge
[23:57] <khildin> the weird thing is... gdm is working fine... only unity is not
[23:57] <holstein> yourimym1: purging ppa's is quite different that removeing a few pacakges
[23:59] <khildin> I get some kind of 'semi' desktop in Unity... screen without launcher/dash and without menu
[23:59] <Ben64> khildin: thats to be expected when 3d doesn't work
[23:59] <khildin> I can launch applications through terminal
[23:59] <Ben64> khildin: you could install a DE that doesn't require 3d as a temp fix
[23:59] <yourimym1> is that altrenative than deleting it from ppa under software resources menu ?
[23:59] <BLZbubba> never mind, i'm a moron
[23:59] <khildin> I'd rather have unity... but now I am 'forced' to gnome