[00:06] <studio-user989> hello ?
[00:14] <magic_silver_box> whales ftw
[01:30] <magic_silver_box> wow i am just at the end of my rope even trying to figure out how to download a driver or a module or whatever
[01:30] <magic_silver_box> what a mess
[02:01] <holstein> magic_silver_box: nail it down for me, and i'll try and help
[02:01] <holstein> maybe you dnt need a driver
[02:01] <holstein> dont*
[02:09] <magic_silver_box> oh thanks
[02:10] <magic_silver_box> i have an emagic unitor 8 mk1 serial port 8x8 midi interface
[02:10] <magic_silver_box> ubuntu studio 12.04 doesn't see it automatically
[02:10] <magic_silver_box> or at all
[02:10] <magic_silver_box> the serial port _is_ active
[02:10] <magic_silver_box> irq4
[02:11] <holstein> i havent used a serial port in years
[02:11] <magic_silver_box> well
[02:11] <holstein> magic_silver_box: i would get a $4 USB midi adapter that works
[02:11] <magic_silver_box> i need eight ins and eight outs
[02:11] <magic_silver_box> i have a huge amount of gear
[02:11] <holstein> magic_silver_box: i would *not* waste time with any USB hardware.. or serial hardware
[02:11] <holstein> i would just purchase a usb unit
[02:12] <holstein> magic_silver_box: did it ever work?
[02:12] <magic_silver_box> no
[02:12] <holstein> magic_silver_box: then it likely will not
[02:12] <magic_silver_box> haha
[02:12] <magic_silver_box> uhhh
[02:12] <holstein> magic_silver_box: you can always ask them for a driver.. but i would just get a USB one
[02:13] <magic_silver_box> i figured out the is a generic serial port midi driver inluded with my build/distro/whatever it is
[02:13] <magic_silver_box> hold on let me get on with that box
[02:13] <holstein> magic_silver_box: i would just test it
[02:14] <holstein> magic_silver_box: i would open JACK and see if its there and route soemthing with it
[02:14] <silverb0x> oK
[02:14] <silverb0x> http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~baker/devices/lxr/http/source/linux/Documentation/sound/alsa/serial-u16550.txt
[02:17] <magic_silver_box> i did all this modprobe crap and figured out some arguments that wouldn't kick back an error
[02:17] <holstein> why?
[02:17] <holstein> magic_silver_box: just try and use it
[02:17] <magic_silver_box> to try to install it
[02:17] <magic_silver_box> i know
[02:17] <magic_silver_box> like
[02:17] <holstein> magic_silver_box: how do you know its not?
[02:17] <magic_silver_box> how do i use it?
[02:17] <magic_silver_box> how do i install a driver?
[02:17] <holstein> magic_silver_box: get JACK running and try routing with it.. see if it shows up
[02:17] <magic_silver_box> all the documentation for this OS is so cryptic i think you just have to be the guy who wrote it in order to understand it
[02:18] <magic_silver_box> forgive me, i'm feeling really furious and i hope i don't offend or make a fool of myself
[02:18] <magic_silver_box> all right let me run jack again brb
[02:19] <holstein> magic_silver_box:
[02:19] <holstein> ?
[02:19] <holstein> magic_silver_box: you need to ask for documentation from where it should be coming from
[02:19] <holstein> the vendor
[02:19] <holstein> we cannot provide you documenation on how to use that hardware.. its challenging
[02:19] <holstein> everyones case is different
[02:20] <holstein> magic_silver_box: i *can*, and will remain constructive with you and troubleshoot as best i can
[02:20] <silverb0x> i know. i told you, i'm just trying to use this generic driver i found that might work
[02:20] <silverb0x> aaaaaa
[02:20] <silverb0x> i need to take a break
[02:20] <holstein> silverb0x: do you know its not just working?
[02:20] <silverb0x> im totally going to blow yo and youre trying to help
[02:20] <holstein> silverb0x: usually its just working
[02:20] <silverb0x> blow yo? blow up
[02:20] <silverb0x> lieufalasdufgtalg
[02:20] <holstein> silverb0x: i get it, man
[02:20] <holstein> its frustrating.. no doubt
[02:20] <silverb0x> anyway
[02:21] <silverb0x> ran qjackctl
[02:21] <silverb0x> start
[02:21] <silverb0x> connect
[02:21] <silverb0x> nothing shows under midi
[02:21] <holstein> right.. click on "connect" and see if you see the device in "midi" or "jack"
[02:21] <silverb0x> ::/
[02:21] <silverb0x> this client thing is kind of cool though
[02:21] <silverb0x> qjackctl
[02:22] <holstein> there are others.. if you prefer
[02:22] <holstein> i like qjackctl
[02:23] <silverb0x> yeah it doesn't show
[02:24] <holstein> then, i would just get a USB midi unit
[02:24] <holstein> a cheap one
[02:24] <holstein> i got one for like $11.. no shipping
[02:24] <holstein> just get it, and get started
[02:24] <silverb0x> but i need a whole lot of I/O
[02:25] <holstein> silverb0x: you have none now
[02:25] <holstein> silverb0x: you coule drop $11 and get some
[02:25] <holstein> then, test.. see if you care about using ubuntu/linux
[02:25] <silverb0x> for 8x8 you can get the unitor, which is rock solid; you can get a midiman/m-audio midisport 8x8, which is not; steinberg midex, which might work with linux, i don't know; or motu, which is to be avoided
[02:25] <holstein> id say 1x1 is better than 0x0, or dealing with unspupported hardare
[02:26] <silverb0x> the other option is to get the unitor mk2, which is USB but still is not on the list of ALSA-supported hardware
[02:26] <holstein> OR.. get a few 1x1 USB ones
[02:26] <silverb0x> i am going to have a good setup or none at all
[02:27] <holstein> silverb0x: you have none right now
[02:27] <holstein> silverb0x: midi is midi. ther is nt "better' transmitting of note on and note off messages
[02:28] <holstein> midi is midi.. the sound creation is where you get the quality..
[02:29] <silverb0x> i disagree. quality interfaces have good timing, and cheap ones have notoriously bad timing
[02:30] <silverb0x> especially if you're forced to run all sixteen channels on one cable. midi does not support simultaneous events.
[02:30] <silverb0x> for dance music, that's a problem.
[02:30] <silverb0x> i have to go outside
[02:30] <holstein> silverb0x: mine has the same timing as jack
[02:30] <silverb0x> i'm worrying myself
[02:30] <silverb0x> thanks for your assistance, be back later
[02:30] <holstein> silverb0x: all im suggesting is, you literally get a $10 bill and try it
[02:30] <holstein> you might not like the midi options anyways
[02:30] <holstein> also, try some other live CD's
[02:30] <holstein> try AVLinux live
[02:31] <holstein> try the old 64studio live CD
[02:31] <holstein> silverb0x: ubuntu cant provide you a driver.. you dont know if that link you have will work with current kernels
[02:31] <holstein> the vendor can, but likely wont
[03:24] <hectorlopez> hi there ardour 3.0 its here D:
[03:25] <holstein> hectorlopez: check #ardour ..its not released yet, thought there are lots of PPA's and sources for getting it
[04:36] <frewsxcv> what's that irc channel that has foss musicians/producers?
[05:34] <magic_silver_box> #Foss-dewdZ
[10:49] <dn4> what is the best text to speech program for ubuntustudio
[11:49] <zequence> dn4: I don't think we've done any work on making that easy on Ubuntu Studio, so generally, just whatever works best on regular Ubuntu
[19:48] <leonet> Hola, alguien podria guiarme en español para revisar la configuracion de sonido de mi pc, lo acabo de instalar pero no suena nada
[19:48] <holstein> !es | leonet
[19:48] <leonet> Tks holstein