| === genupulas is now known as sekahr | ||
| === sekahr is now known as shekhar | ||
| === shekhar is now known as sekhar | ||
| === sekhar is now known as group | ||
| === group is now known as raju | ||
| === raju is now known as sekhar | ||
| === james_ is now known as Guest90685 | ||
| === 77CAASO49 is now known as amachu | ||
| === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk | ||
| === jono is now known as Guest42688 | ||
| === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik | ||
| === smb` is now known as smb | ||
| === lala_ is now known as lalatenduM | ||
| === baba is now known as Guest13870 | ||
| === tiagoscd is now known as Guest97368 | ||
| === tiagohillebrandt is now known as tiagoscd | ||
| === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch | ||
| === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik | ||
| === Pici` is now known as Pici | ||
| === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119 | ||
| === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage | ||
| * slangasek waves | 15:03 | |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:03 |
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| meetingology | Meeting started Wed Mar 13 15:03:31 2013 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:03 |
| meetingology | Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired | 15:03 |
| jodh | o/ | 15:03 |
| === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle | ||
| slangasek | [TOPIC] lightning round$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra cjwatson xnox stokachu) | 15:03 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: lightning round$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra cjwatson xnox stokachu) | ||
| slangasek | barry ogra jodh ev doko bdmurray cjwatson stgraber xnox stokachu slangasek | 15:04 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] lightning round | 15:04 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: lightning round | ||
| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra cjwatson xnox stokachu) | 15:04 |
| slangasek | barry ogra jodh ev doko bdmurray cjwatson stgraber xnox stokachu slangasek | 15:04 |
| slangasek | :-) | 15:04 |
| slangasek | barry's not here - ogra? | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | done: | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | * discussions, discussions, discussions about phablet ... | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | * vUDS ...: foundations-1303-cdimage-android-builds | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | * helped the community guys to get WIFI running on samsung phones | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | * started looking into x86 android for qemu supporting images (sadly not a CM10.1 variant so it will need quite some changes) | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | * debugging a boot issue when ubuntu phablet was used on an nx7 a subsequent desktop install starts with a black screen | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | * tested nx7 image installation | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | * added manifest syncing to the cdimage phablet-sync script | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | * started work on getting an ubuntu-phablet seed into our branch (though that might be moot before 13.04 since many conflicting packages (NM, ofono ...) wont be ready i was told, so we cant build images) | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | todo: | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | * move nx7 desktop image to pxz ... the debian bug was fixed, we just need a merge of busybox now (xnox is on it) | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | * finish the ubuntu-phablet seed (only 65 packages on top of ubuntu-minimal) | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | * test ac100 lubuntu image for beta1 (and fix possible issues) | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | * go on working on x86 android base for phablet qemu images | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | * meeting on friday about how to handle raring images even with conflicting packages (see above) | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | .. | 15:04 |
| xnox | ogra_: any news on dropping panda-desktop? or not yet final? | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | oh, right | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | we will drop it | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | i need to write a nice note to ubuntu-devel :) | 15:05 |
| jodh | * blueprints: | 15:05 |
| jodh | - foundations-q-upstart-stateful-re-exec: | 15:05 |
| jodh | - Updated Upstart Cookbook for Upstart 1.7 and publicised. | 15:05 |
| jodh | - Finished file bridge and raised MP on lp:upstart. Awaiting feedback: | 15:05 |
| jodh | https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/upstart/file-bridge-MP/+merge/152767 | 15:05 |
| jodh | - Wrote apport hook for upstart - needs review and ideally a fix for | 15:05 |
| jodh | bug 1154536 before it's added to the package. | 15:05 |
| jodh | - foundations-r-upstart-roadmap: no progress. | 15:05 |
| jodh | * misc: | 15:05 |
| jodh | - on holiday yesterday. | 15:05 |
| jodh | 𐎯 | 15:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1154536 in Apport "provide ability for apport to detect modified conffiles reliably when not running as root" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1154536 | 15:05 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: I read that as "get UEFI running on samsung phones" and was scared | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | lol | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | yeah, UEFI and grub :) | 15:06 |
| ev | pass (still typing) | 15:06 |
| xnox | #action xnox to merge busybox | 15:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: xnox to merge busybox | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | heh | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | stealing power from slangasek ? | 15:07 |
| xnox | #action ogra_ to email u-d about panda desktop EOL | 15:07 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ogra_ to email u-d about panda desktop EOL | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | ++ | 15:07 |
| xnox | ogra_: AlanBell taught me tricks on #ubuntu-irc ;-) | 15:07 |
| slangasek | ogra_: ubuntu-phablet seed> even if the image builds don't move to nusakan before 13.04, I think it's important to get any phablet builds that *are* being done to use the shared view of the package list... jenkins should be pulling from the seed + livecd-rootfs config, not using its own definition | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, thats why it is on my TODO for next week :) | 15:09 |
| bdmurray | oh, is it my turn since ev passed and doko is not here? | 15:09 |
| slangasek | ogra_: ok :) | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | will also help users that want to run live-build at home | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | (linke the one who just asks in #ubuntu-touch) | 15:10 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: yes | 15:10 |
| bdmurray | patch-pilot | 15:10 |
| bdmurray | virtual UDS | 15:10 |
| bdmurray | uds lightning talk on new errors features | 15:10 |
| bdmurray | code reviews for evan | 15:10 |
| bdmurray | tested user parameter on errors.ubuntu.com | 15:10 |
| bdmurray | speed and logic improvements to the most common problems table in resources.py for teams | 15:10 |
| bdmurray | modified most_common_problems.js to be better when switching from packages to users and back | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | updated most_common_problem.js to update UI based on url parameters (package, user and period) | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | wrote a pycassa query to discover regressions using bucket systems | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | wrote a pycassa query regarding package crash rate | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | worked on and merge proposal for errors API feature for rate of crashes | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | modifications to rate of crashes branch based of ev's feedback | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | submitted rt 59711 regarding updating error-tracker-dependencies | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | reporting, research into and fixing of bug 1148015 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | reporting, and research into bug 1148116 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | updated error-tracker-dependencies for python-lazr.restfulclient related to the move of launchpad.py | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1148015 in Daisy "launchpad.py says a PPA package is a source package but tells you it has no binaries" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1148015 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1148116 in apport (Ubuntu) "not all packages from PPAs have '[origin: ' in Package section" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1148116 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | research into bug 1056061 regarding FirstSeen being wrong | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1056061 in Errors ""First seen" version is wrong in release-specific table" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056061 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | worked with webops regarding the import user packages cronjob | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | research into gap in release:src_pkg counter | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | debugged an issue with first seen and last seen being null in the most-common-problems table | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | submitted merge proposal for less than 5 bucketids branch of errors | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | reported errors bug 1154275 regarding empty failed buckets | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1154275 in Errors "bucket page for failed retraces empty" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1154275 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | reported bug 1154356 regarding release package counter ttl | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1154356 in Daisy "release package counter's ttl does not work" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1154356 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | investigation into quantity of bugs being tagged regression-update | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | looked for packages to be removed from -proposed that are removal candidates | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | research into session installer bug 1056545 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1056545 in sessioninstaller (Ubuntu) "session-installer crashed with AlreadyCalledDeferred in callback()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056545 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | testing of bug 967229 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 967229 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Text mode shown briefly with various "cryptic" texts when logging out or shutting down" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/967229 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | consolekit upload for bug 1130923 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1130923 in consolekit (Ubuntu Quantal) "consolekit: ck-get-x11-display-device segmentation fault" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1130923 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | blogged about using launchpad users at errors.ubuntu.com | 15:11 |
| ev | wooooooooooo! Thanks for all the awesome investigative work this past week | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | ✔ done | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | Release process discussions. | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | Fixed the notorious LP override-copying bug 1152149. | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | Fixed the cause of LP bug 1152669. Some DB cleanup still needed. | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | Set up image building for new UbuntuKylin and Ubuntu GNOME flavours. | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | Cleaned up problems caused by LibreOffice help conflicts, with Bjoern. | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | Fixed a lurking bug in grub2's kernel hook that broke Edubuntu image builds. | 15:12 |
| ubottu | bug 1152149 in Launchpad itself "Combining async copying and deletion loses overrides" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1152149 | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | Expanded grub2's ACPI halt handling to cope with current seabios. | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1152669 in Launchpad itself "Soyuz allows me to delete packages from a RELEASE pocket of a CURRENT series" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1152669 | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | Currently working on bug 869825 (trying to figure out how to fix it without breaking translations), and probably diving into +1 maintenance shortly thereafter. | 15:12 |
| ubottu | bug 869825 in console-setup (Ubuntu Raring) "French (Switzerland) is no longer a layout choice in the installer" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/869825 | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | .. | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | Incidentally I need brain bleach to cope with having spent a day with the ACPI spec. | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | beer might help | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | lots ... | 15:13 |
| xnox | cjwatson: intersting about ACPI halt, would that also fix not being able to reboot VirtualBox after installation finishes?! | 15:13 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: what was the outcome of your investigation into the regression-update bugs? Will there be a wording change in the dialog that's been prompting users about whether the bug showed up after an update? | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | xnox: No | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | Unrelated I'm afraid | 15:14 |
| xnox | ack. | 15:14 |
| stgraber | Feature work: | 15:14 |
| stgraber | - Upstart (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements) | 15:14 |
| stgraber | - Fixed upstart user session re-exec. | 15:14 |
| stgraber | - Some more rework of Xsession/user jobs in the PPA. | 15:14 |
| stgraber | - Pushed upstart 1.7 to the archive. | 15:14 |
| stgraber | - Pushed user jobs to dbus, gnome-session and gnome-settings-daemon. | 15:14 |
| stgraber | - Container (BLUEPRINT: servercloud-r-lxc) | 15:14 |
| slangasek | hmm why is update-manager crashing and burning here all of a sudden | 15:14 |
| stgraber | - Usual code review. | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: that was removed from xdiagnose which was the bulk of them, I've subscribed to the tag now (-linux) and it is relatively quiet. | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Plumbers planning. | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Backport to precise. | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Call on moving phablet to LXC. | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Various fixed to the UTAH tests. | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Implemented nesting support in lxc-ls | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Preparing 0.9~rc1 (pull request due later today) | 15:15 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: ok, great | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Networking (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-networking) | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - isc-dhcp quantal SRU | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Looking into MAAS/isc-dhcp bug. | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - General follow-up triage of networking bugs. | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Got feedback from IS wrt IPv6. archive.u.c and security.u.c are now dual-stack. | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Got new SIM cards to test dual-stack 3G (multiple PDP contexts) | 15:15 |
| stgraber | New work: | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Plenty of vUDS sessions. | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Work on plan for device updates. Spent most of yesterday in calls, have a pretty good plan now that needs to be written down. | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Get NM integrated with ofono. The work has been split in more WI and I'm now rebasing my work on current NM and sending it to Mathieu for further work. | 15:15 |
| stgraber | Other work: | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Installer: bug 944614 | 15:15 |
| ubottu | bug 944614 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "ubiquity crashed with AttributeError in keyboard_variant_timeout(): 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'apply_keyboard'" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/944614 | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Some queuebot fixes. | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Tested grub2 UEFI PXE. | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Found and help debugging a libssl/libgnutls regression | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Release | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - UDS/release cadence discussions | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | stgraber: grub2 UEFI PXE> and? | 15:15 |
| stgraber | - Preparing beta1 for participating flavours | 15:16 |
| stgraber | - Helped setup UbuntuKylin and Ubuntu GNOME | 15:16 |
| stgraber | TODO: | 15:16 |
| stgraber | - LXC 0.9~rc1 release | 15:16 |
| stgraber | - Some isc-dhcp bugs | 15:16 |
| stgraber | - ifupdown SRU | 15:16 |
| stgraber | - Continue planning the mobile update process | 15:16 |
| stgraber | - Rebase NM-ofono patch and send to cyphermox | 15:16 |
| stgraber | (DONE) | 15:16 |
| stgraber | cjwatson: that was for the time I tried before you had a look. So it was starting fine but failing to retrieve anything over tftp. | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | OK | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | Huh, everyone else seems to be reporting two weeks of work; oh well | 15:17 |
| xnox | * uds - todo mobile updates & packaging follow ups. | 15:17 |
| xnox | * before and a bit after a quick guile 1.6->1.8 transition done, | 15:17 |
| xnox | please remove guile1.6 bug #1154491 | 15:17 |
| xnox | * u1 ubiquity plugin is complete, pending one.ubuntu.com deployment, | 15:17 |
| xnox | final testing, FFe approval, and merge/upload. bug #1153731 | 15:17 |
| xnox | lp:~xnox/ubiquity/main-u1 | 15:17 |
| stgraber | right, I had a stack of notes for the pre-UDS week that I bundled in there | 15:17 |
| ubottu | bug 1154491 in guile-pg (Ubuntu) "Please remove guile-1.6 from the archive" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1154491 | 15:17 |
| xnox | * uploaded ubiquity FF release with fix ups afterwards | 15:17 |
| ubottu | bug 1153731 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "[FFe] Ubuntu One sing in or up or skip plugin" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1153731 | 15:17 |
| xnox | * patch pilot / mostly mutliarchifying | 15:17 |
| xnox | * Prepated and uploaded openssl SRUs for bug #1083498 bug #1066032 bug | 15:17 |
| xnox | #1018522 (pending infinity / doko to review that it does not explode | 15:17 |
| xnox | the world). | 15:17 |
| ubottu | bug 1083498 in openssl (Ubuntu Quantal) "please enable arm assembler code in openssl" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1083498 | 15:17 |
| xnox | * Merged up some patches for lvm2 thin_provision support | 15:17 |
| ubottu | bug 1066032 in openssl (Ubuntu Quantal) "Deadlock when reading a public key" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066032 | 15:17 |
| xnox | * My shiny new Gigabyte motherboard needs a older family cpu to upgrade | 15:17 |
| xnox | bios to support the cpu I bought *sigh* =( | 15:17 |
| xnox | * Requested overlayfs support for nexus7, and ppisati implemented | 15:17 |
| xnox | that. Tested his hand compiled kernel, works great. Should be | 15:17 |
| xnox | landing in the archive soonish. | 15:17 |
| xnox | .. | 15:18 |
| stokachu | Jury duty Mon/Tuesday, catching up on emails and bugs | 15:18 |
| stokachu | Currently working bug 1121874, bug 859600 (getting sru's in shape). | 15:18 |
| stokachu | xnox, bug 778627 - just so im clear on this status with an updated sru template are we still considering fixing this for precise? | 15:18 |
| stokachu | (done) | 15:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1121874 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu) "MySQL launch fails silently if < 4MB of disk space is available" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1121874 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | bug 859600 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu Precise) "Please convert gnome-keyring to multiarch" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/859600 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | bug 778627 in bash (Ubuntu Precise) "In natty, bash completion now quotes shell variable references rather than expanding them" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/778627 | 15:18 |
| slangasek | xnox: RMA the motherboard and make them send you one with a current firmware? :) | 15:19 |
| slangasek | * vUDS - great discussions, everyone! | 15:20 |
| slangasek | * post-UDS blueprint rastling | 15:20 |
| slangasek | * discussions with pitti about systemd uplift for logind support; this is going ahead, libudev has an ABI transition now in -proposed | 15:20 |
| slangasek | * patch pilot day Monday | 15:20 |
| slangasek | * libnih,upstart reviews for the file bridge | 15:20 |
| slangasek | * fighting a swap death issue with the raring kernel (bug #1152736) | 15:20 |
| ubottu | bug 1152736 in linux (Ubuntu) "system swapping itself to death in raring for no good reason" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1152736 | 15:20 |
| slangasek | (done) | 15:20 |
| slangasek | ev: | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | overlayfs> oh, great, I asked for that a couple of months ago too | 15:20 |
| ev | - Working with jjo to get daisy writing a percentage of the core files to | 15:20 |
| ev | Swift, with the rest still on NFS. Lots of code review and iteration, but | 15:20 |
| ev | we've finally deployed \o/. We're running 1% on Swift for now, but we're | 15:20 |
| ev | about to jump up to 10%. After this we'll get started on putting some | 15:20 |
| ev | retracers on prodstack, talking to Swift and the Rabbit queue. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Working on code to properly remove items from the retracer queue. Long story | 15:20 |
| ev | short (iknowright?), we've got a lot of "problems" that we've never retraced | 15:20 |
| ev | because we deleted their core files and message off the Rabbit queue, but | 15:20 |
| ev | they're still sitting in a Cassandra column family. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Code review for Brian as part of his phased updates work. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Fixed all our cron jobs (importing bug data, creating the unique systems over | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | (bug 1076317) | 15:20 |
| ubottu | bug 1076317 in ubuntu-nexus7 "please add aufs/overlayfs/unionfs support to android based kernels" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1076317 | 15:20 |
| ev | 90 days running counts, etc) when they broke with the path reorg. Re-ran the | 15:20 |
| ev | import scripts manually over the missing days. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Set up Google Anayltics for errors.u.c. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Fixed our SSO integration so that users not in an approved group get knocked | 15:20 |
| ev | back to the front page with a helpful error message, rather than just looping | 15:20 |
| ev | on the SSO login page. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Finally got libcassandra-dpkgversiontype-java deployed to the production | 15:20 |
| ev | Cassandra cluster. Started reworking the code to rebuild the BucketVersions | 15:20 |
| ev | CF (mapping of problems to the Ubuntu releases and versions they occur in, | 15:20 |
| ev | with counters for the latter), only to have a brainwave that we've been using | 15:20 |
| ev | counters all wrong. There's no such thing as a free lunch, and instead of | 15:20 |
| ev | pretending like over/undercounting isn't a problem, we'll write wide rows as | 15:20 |
| ev | well, using these to repair the counts in cron jobs overnight. Started | 15:20 |
| ev | writing some code to do exactly this: | 15:20 |
| ev | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5608424/ | 15:20 |
| ev | - Investigated why we weren't getting whitelisted in SSO, and fixed. This had | 15:20 |
| ev | to do with the way we were handing off from Apache frontends to HAProxy to | 15:20 |
| ev | Apache WSGI runners. You'll now no longer get prompted with a page where you | 15:20 |
| xnox | stokachu: it's marked incomplete by me. If someone steps up to write an extended / complete SRU template, with procedures how to enable direxpand, i'll be happy to sponsor that SRU. Otherwise it will just fall off the radar. | 15:21 |
| ev | can select what Launchpad user data (your teams, email address, etc) to | 15:21 |
| ev | Errors - we'll get it automatically and there's nothing you can do about it | 15:21 |
| ev | (bwahaha). | 15:21 |
| ev | - Fixed some bugs in lp:daisy and lp:errors found via | 15:21 |
| ev | http://errors.ubuntu.com/oops-local. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Meeting with Amrit, Matthew, and Luca to discuss the navigation structure for | 15:21 |
| ev | errors.ubuntu.com and other Ubuntu project sites. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Came up with a plan for fixing the average errors per calendar day graph, | 15:21 |
| ev | adjusting for population growth: | 15:21 |
| ev | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5608021/ | 15:21 |
| ev | (done!) | 15:21 |
| stokachu | xnox: cool ill follow up with a more proper sru and procedure | 15:21 |
| ev | slangasek: where do we stand on that NDA? | 15:21 |
| ev | ps anyone else completely locked out of lcy02? | 15:22 |
| ev | I get 403 forbidden if I try to do anything with it | 15:22 |
| xnox | cjwatson: yeap, that's the bug for nexus7. Pull request is up already, so should land soon =) | 15:23 |
| cjwatson | 'juju status' seems to work for me on lcy02 | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | if that helps ... | 15:24 |
| ev | cjwatson: weird. I'll call support and whinge. | 15:25 |
| xnox | slangasek: instead of doing RMA, I ordered a 25 GBP cpu (1.6GHz single core, non-threaded, celeron) and will use it to upgrade my motherboard and then return this baby cpu back where it's comming from =)))) | 15:25 |
| slangasek | ev: no progress on the NDA question; I need to circle around on that, sorry | 15:25 |
| slangasek | xnox: heh, ok | 15:25 |
| ev | slangasek: no worries, just keep me posted :) | 15:25 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Blueprints | 15:25 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Blueprints | ||
| slangasek | so there are relatively few blueprints coming out of vUDS that are in need of drafting, since we have quite a bit of carry-over work that we're still going on with | 15:26 |
| slangasek | but for any new blueprints that did come out of vUDS, please make sure you get your drafting done by EOB tomorrow | 15:26 |
| slangasek | also, we have a new set of milestones in launchpad, to be able to track work on a per-month basis for UE's internal management purposes | 15:27 |
| slangasek | please use these for targeting of all phone-related work items / blueprints | 15:27 |
| slangasek | (so for stuff that's happening in march, use ubuntu-13.04-month-5, not ubuntu-13.04-beta-2) | 15:28 |
| slangasek | also, for your previously-blueprinted workitems from Copenhagen, please review and check if the monthly milestone would be a more appropriate target for that work | 15:28 |
| slangasek | this will help with internal planning, to be able to see "work being done in March" in one place (ish) | 15:29 |
| slangasek | any questions? | 15:29 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Bugs/errors/defects | 15:30 |
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| slangasek | bdmurray: so aside from teamviewer8 being insane and breaking the fabric of space-time... what should we be paying attention to? | 15:30 |
| bdmurray | I ran across bug 1143359 and while it is assigned to the hwe team wondered if we had any insight for them | 15:31 |
| ubottu | bug 1143359 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Dell Latittude 6340u - Systems will not boot in uEFI mode" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1143359 | 15:31 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: I've seen other bug reports that booting under uefi boot to black; let me look those up | 15:32 |
| slangasek | bug #1129524 | 15:32 |
| ubottu | bug 1129524 in linux (Ubuntu) "Precise & Quantal won't boot in UEFI" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1129524 | 15:32 |
| slangasek | but, 1143359 doesn't give a very clear description of what "Doesn't boot" means | 15:32 |
| slangasek | oh; "both systems were installed via PXE using legacy PXE boot mode." | 15:33 |
| slangasek | so why would that be expected to give you a useful UEFI-enabled result? | 15:33 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: ^^? | 15:33 |
| cjwatson | Er, yes, I missed that | 15:35 |
| cjwatson | It wouldn't | 15:35 |
| cjwatson | I've left a comment | 15:35 |
| cjwatson | Does sound like tester error | 15:35 |
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| slangasek | cjwatson: ta | 15:36 |
| bdmurray | thanks, okay then we have bug 120689 regarding update-manager partial upgrades. | 15:36 |
| ubottu | bug 120689 in update-manager (Ubuntu) ""Not all updates can be installed" dialog has unclear buttons & unselectable text" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120689 | 15:36 |
| bdmurray | It seems that at least there should be a cancel option but I seem to recall large discussions about partial upgrade being terrible | 15:37 |
| bdmurray | or a bad idea | 15:37 |
| cjwatson | Well, it is, it's just terrible in both directions | 15:37 |
| cjwatson | As I think I said in that bug | 15:37 |
| slangasek | I thought there was a "cancel" option, which takes you into something that doesn't look much like cancelling | 15:38 |
| slangasek | but, I think the more serious issue is that "partial upgrade" doesn't make any sense, and the explanatory text explains nothing about what your choices are | 15:39 |
| cjwatson | I definitely agree the path should be towards getting rid of the partial-upgrade case, but I'd like to have some experience with how things do with my recent update-manager changes first | 15:39 |
| slangasek | well, my experience is that I've gotten the dialog again this week as a result of two separate packages | 15:39 |
| slangasek | (libreoffice, foomatic-db) | 15:39 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: so, I think it would be worth us taking a pass at wordsmithing the dialog | 15:40 |
| xnox | cjwatson: ubuntu-distro-info --help | 15:41 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: interested in tackling this yourself? if not I can take a look | 15:41 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: I'm still pretty busy with errors and phased updates work | 15:42 |
| slangasek | ok - please assign it to me | 15:43 |
| bdmurray | then there is bug 1130284 | 15:43 |
| ubottu | bug 1130284 in icu (Ubuntu) "Libreoffice crash when typing some Malayalam text using ibus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1130284 | 15:43 |
| slangasek | (would assign it myself, but my browser is currently putting my processor in a headlock) | 15:43 |
| xnox | #action disable -proposed in the upgrader, and for existing pre-release users who have it enabled. | 15:44 |
| meetingology | ACTION: disable -proposed in the upgrader, and for existing pre-release users who have it enabled. | 15:44 |
| cjwatson | icu> that's just a backport, right? | 15:44 |
| cjwatson | or cherry-pick I suppose | 15:44 |
| slangasek | xnox: I hope you don't expect me to send out meeting minutes with these actions for you ;) | 15:44 |
| xnox | slangasek: meetinology will give me a url at the end of the meeting ;-) | 15:45 |
| cjwatson | Oh, and a trivial one at that | 15:45 |
| cjwatson | I'll take the icu bug | 15:45 |
| bdmurray | thanks, then bug 1056545 which is similar to or the same as bug 848605 which was "fixed" some time ago | 15:46 |
| ubottu | bug 1056545 in sessioninstaller (Ubuntu) "session-installer crashed with AlreadyCalledDeferred in callback()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056545 | 15:46 |
| ubottu | bug 848605 in sessioninstaller (Ubuntu Precise) "session-installer crashed with AlreadyCalledDeferred in callback()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/848605 | 15:46 |
| bdmurray | errors is showing it still occurring with the fixed versions of the package | 15:47 |
| bdmurray | anybody? | 15:54 |
| cjwatson | Might be best to try to get hold of Sebastian Heinlein for that one? | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | Oh, or maybe Julian Andres Klode, I think I misremembered the maintainer | 15:56 |
| bdmurray | okay, I'll try that and try creating a test case for it since the previous bug didn't have a great one | 15:56 |
| bdmurray | bug 1152222 seems to be a regression in pycurl | 15:57 |
| ubottu | bug 1152222 in pycurl (Ubuntu) "pycurl fails with TypeError: string argument expected, got 'bytes' " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1152222 | 15:57 |
| * stgraber has to run to another meeting (in 2min) | 15:57 | |
| slangasek | whee, GPU hang. | 15:57 |
| * xnox can look into pycurl. | 15:57 | |
| ogra_ | slangasek, Mir will fix that :P | 15:57 |
| bdmurray | xnox: thanks | 15:57 |
| bdmurray | then with bug 1152254 the webcam step is just going away right? | 15:58 |
| ubottu | bug 1152254 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Webcam is not capturing the image during raring desktop installations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1152254 | 15:58 |
| slangasek | ogra_: I disbelieve :) | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | heh | 15:58 |
| xnox | ogra_: the one that crashed, the one that needs approval, or the not yet finished one? | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | the GPU hangs of this world | 15:58 |
| xnox | bdmurray: me and Laney fixed regression in gstreamer. Webcam should be working again. | 15:58 |
| * xnox will ask for that user retest, once I retest with my webcam (which also was affected) | 15:58 | |
| bdmurray | xnox: ah okay | 15:59 |
| bdmurray | that's about it from me | 16:00 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: thanks | 16:00 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 16:00 |
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| slangasek | I do have one other minitopic | 16:01 |
| slangasek | (if I can find the blueprint amid the mess of my desktop on the floor) | 16:01 |
| slangasek | there's a blueprint out of vUDS on the client track covering getting Ubuntu Touch merged into the archive | 16:01 |
| cjwatson | For that icu bug, does anyone know how to get Ctrl-Shift-u to work for Unicode input? Doesn't seem to for me | 16:02 |
| slangasek | I volunteered us to help, and seb128 has assigned a set of work items to me - I need volunteers for them :) | 16:02 |
| slangasek | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-delivering-touch-apps-to-raring | 16:03 |
| slangasek | does someone want to take the lead on these packages: platform-api, qtubuntu, qtubuntu-sensors? | 16:03 |
| xnox | slangasek: do you know what those actually mean? | 16:03 |
| slangasek | xnox: those are the names of packages from the Ubuntu Touch preview | 16:04 |
| slangasek | xnox: for more details, talk to didrocks :) | 16:04 |
| xnox | oh, ok. | 16:04 |
| xnox | I can take one, qtubuntu-sensors sounds fun. | 16:05 |
| slangasek | thanks | 16:05 |
| slangasek | anyone else? | 16:05 |
| slangasek | it's not urgent anyway, so we can continue picking them off later | 16:05 |
| slangasek | and I think that's it unless anyone else has something | 16:06 |
| xnox | it's an oportunity to learn integration with jenkins and daily auto landing black magic =) | 16:06 |
| slangasek | yep :) | 16:06 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 16:06 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Wed Mar 13 16:06:45 2013 UTC. | 16:06 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-03-13-15.03.moin.txt | 16:06 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-03-13-15.03.html | 16:06 |
| slangasek | ok, thanks everyone! | 16:06 |
| xnox | cheers | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | thanks ! | 16:08 |
| baba | hi | 16:55 |
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