| hads | Just got a quote for some IP Phones from an Australiasian distributor. In USD and $35/unit shipping because it's direct from the US. So basically, they are doing nothing right? | 01:30 |
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| ibeardslee | they are facilitating the process | 01:32 |
| G | hads: the money has got to go into somebodies pocket :) | 02:13 |
| elky | Speaking from experience, the "doing nothing" often involves many hours of time including hand-holding the distributor to make sure they send the correct stock. it's a toss between getting stock on demand in a reasonable timeframe, or having stock in-house and then needing to get it all out the door above the acquisition + administrative cost. | 06:26 |
| elky | well, acquisition + administrative + anticipated overstock buffer | 06:27 |
| hads | I deal with quite a number of distributors. Some of them are great, a lot of them are not. This one falls into the latter. For a local distributor to pass on the cost of shipping direct from the US is ridiculous. | 08:33 |
| elky | yeah, they could at least pretend | 08:45 |
| elky | at very very least | 08:45 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 18:17 |
| olly | morning | 18:56 |
| olly | ibeardslee: what's the current "state of the art" in buying window-less machines? | 18:56 |
| ibeardslee | for a complete PC .. I'd look to ZaReason or Silicon | 18:58 |
| ibeardslee | for a laptop, ZaReason or HP (although you have to wind people up about getting a machine from them without the legacy OS) | 19:00 |
| olly | looking for a PC this time | 19:00 |
| olly | oh yes, zareason are now in NZ | 19:00 |
| ibeardslee | what sort of machine .. cpu? ram? disk? | 19:01 |
| olly | all good questions... | 19:02 |
| ibeardslee | PCs are generally easier to get from 'no-name' suppliers without the legacy OS | 19:02 |
| ibeardslee | the Intel NUC machines are quite interesting | 19:02 |
| ibeardslee | although the best they can do is an i3 | 19:02 |
| olly | it's mostly that i've not had a desktop since moving here, as mine died in transit, and while this laptop is quite fast, it runs irritatingly hot | 19:02 |
| olly | laptop's an i7, so i'm not sure I'd want slower | 19:03 |
| olly | though i have little idea how the different CPUs compare | 19:04 |
| ibeardslee | yeah gone are the days when you know the DX100 is better than the DX66 | 19:05 |
| olly | how are the NUC's for cooling? | 19:06 |
| olly | and wasn't someone on here complaining about lack of linux support for something on them? | 19:07 |
| ibeardslee | dunno .. seems to be all good to me | 19:07 |
| ibeardslee | Intel HD 4000 graphics | 19:08 |
| ibeardslee | Dual HDMI out | 19:08 |
| ibeardslee | network seems fine | 19:08 |
| ibeardslee | currently running it as a low footprint CUPS print server .. so haven't actually tried it as a desktop device | 19:09 |
| olly | can't fund it in my logs for this channel | 19:11 |
| olly | *find | 19:11 |
| olly | ISTR they found something didn't work, and intel support asked they to try it on windows | 19:12 |
| ibeardslee | hads will be probably be able to give some further feedback | 19:12 |
| olly | i guess my main need is that it compiles code quickly | 19:13 |
| olly | plus decent amounts of disk and memory for testing search stuff | 19:13 |
| hads | It was G who had NUC issues. Something about one of the HDMI ports doing weird things to the NIC. | 19:16 |
| hads | If I needed a new desktop I would consider one myself. | 19:20 |
| hads | I guess you may hear the fan if it's compiling all the time. | 19:21 |
| ajmitch | morning | 19:48 |
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| hads | morning | 20:30 |
| thumper | morning | 21:59 |
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