=== paradox|AFK is now known as paradoxgo [00:32] hey, what's a good QML alternative to an popup box? Like alert('some error occured')? === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ === _salem` is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === LarrySteeze|Away is now known as LarrySteeze === pedrodias_ is now known as pedrodias === KyleXY is now known as Kyle === salem_ is now known as _salem [05:09] Hello is there any one who knows how to port ubuntu touch who could try and port it to the acer iconia a100? [05:15] We do have a CM 10.1 rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2114602 [05:22] So no one on here can help me out? [05:23] the porting guide assumes a general level of competence [05:25] I have no clue on how to port it I was hoping someone on here might know [05:29] ... [05:34] i can try to port it. just send me whatever device and i will try. [05:35] lol [05:35] if only that argument worked [05:36] believe it or not it does work [05:36] not if you live in another country from them though [05:36] shipping li-po/li-ion batteries are a pain [05:37] yeah that is true [05:43] or when porters that are terribad go around and break it though their incimpetance [05:43] temporary dyslexia [05:44] hello [05:46] people [05:48] someone wake?? [05:48] asleep [05:48] ok [06:01] ubuntu for Nexus S i9023 [06:02] ubuntu for Nexus S i9023 === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === jono is now known as Guest42688 [06:02] ubuntu for Nexus S i9023 [06:02] ubuntu for Nexus S i9023 [06:02] heloo [06:02] !k th-olu [06:03] buntu for Nexus S i9023 [06:03] ubuntu for Nexus S i9023?? [06:03] stfu [06:03] is there any port or official ubuntu for Nexus S i9023 [06:03] stfu???? [06:04] you don need to ask 5 times [06:05] sory [06:06] and no [06:07] there is no port for nexus S? [06:07] are they going to make? [06:07] wiki says WIP [06:07] and that for crespo [06:09] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163085 is this it? [06:09] the same guy in ubunu wiki who is WIK [06:13] i have some problem qtm [06:24] Hey all [06:24] I just loaded up touch preview onto my Nexus 4 [06:25] anybody else online? === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [07:23] good morning [07:43] The daily images when are they normally published === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [07:51] Hello!! :) [07:54] Good morning. [07:56] good morning :) I've seen that the core apps development is going great! :) [08:02] is there a terminal app yet :) [08:08] guys, but what about storing shared data in u touch? [08:08] sql? [08:09] for example, I am working on the clock app, and i am implementing the alarm page. I must add an alarm...where I must store it? [08:35] I must center all the page to the center of parent, and the button horizontally on the center...how should I do? http://imgur.com/ypJm4Zx [08:36] ..or must I use a dialog instead of a page? [08:40] anyone? [08:47] bl4de: Well from software architecture point and from platform development point, I would go with idea of shared database with table designed for parameterized information. [08:48] And on top of that, I would use software framework that does not do direct queries to database, but instead works through api. [08:48] Similarry what Android has. [08:49] is there a changelog posted somewhere for the daily builds [08:50] dun1982, understood. And about the other question? :) I must center all the page to the center of parent, and the button horizontally on the center...how should I do? http://imgur.com/ypJm4Zx [08:51] P.S. I corrected the TextArea into TextField :) [08:52] Hm... maybe you need to read some more documentation. I cannot answer you that, because I have not written a single line of code in ubuntu-touch. [08:54] dun1982, Found! :) [08:54] The reason for that is that I'm still porting my device on the os :) [08:55] I simply had to set properties of Column, and not of each control in it :) [09:01] dun1982, I have a Nexus 7, but I'll wait a little more before intall ubuntu to it :) [09:02] when ubuntu become usable at least, I'll install on it :) [09:04] I like the feeling of the system, but I can make a suggestion... === Lloir|zZzZz is now known as Lloir [09:06] is there anyone here who is researching the GUI? [09:06] *working on the GUI === jpetersen_ is now known as jpetersen [09:25] I go, bye bye! :) [09:46] hi, is that possible to port ubuntu-touch to another hardware （armv7)? is that all source open? [09:48] dlan^, if it has cyanogenmod 10.1 support ... see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [09:48] ogra_: i've checked that, but it says need prebuilt binary, so I'm not sure.. [09:49] Does anyone run ubuntu touch permanently here [09:49] all you need is support for it in cyanogenmod 10.1 [09:49] has anyone ported successful? [09:49] if thats there all is fine [09:49] Hazza: I've tried in nexus 4 [09:50] and seems useful, but few apps does not work [09:50] Ive tried too and its obviously not there yet but just seeing if hardcore person running anyway [09:50] like as daily driver [09:51] still for preview [09:51] I know [09:51] android is not linux, and ubuntu has a nice try, let's see what will happens.. [09:53] I hope it will not be like meego, palm os - personally I dont like swiping interface but I appreciate comsumer choice and at the moment there aren't a huge amount === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr_ [10:23] Whats "jenkins data format has changed : incompatible" [10:23] hi - is anyone having trouble getting the latest nightly using phablet-flash -l? [10:24] yes, that error traxmac... [10:24] ok not the only one [10:28] yesterdays works I think: phablet-flash -u http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/20130312/ [10:30] That installs yes. [10:31] maybe the tooling has to be updated [10:31] not sure [10:39] Hawkeye^, traxmac, which one is broken exactly and where do you see that error ? [10:39] daily [10:39] just running phablet-flash -l [10:39] *which* daily :) [10:40] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/ [10:40] nexus 7 [10:40] right now ? [10:40] grouper [10:40] yes [10:40] (it was updated about 1h ago,) [10:40] I know [10:40] im on galaxy nexus [10:41] if youo ran phablet flash while the /current link was upgraded you might have one file from 20130312 and the other from 0313 ... [10:41] could one of you try again to exclude that ? [10:41] I removed my files === tiagoscd is now known as Guest97368 [10:43] same error [10:43] same here [10:44] hmm, k [10:46] theer is nothing sticking out in the build logs ... [10:48] oh [10:48] someone added a changelog, i guess yuo need to update your phablet-flash to be able to read that [10:48] right [10:48] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/20130312/quantal-ubuntu_stamp vs. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/20130313/quantal-ubuntu_stamp === tiagohillebrandt is now known as tiagoscd [10:56] When will the first Mir enabled image apporx be released? === zAo^_ is now known as zAo^ [10:58] once Mir is packaged and in the archive and has seen some more code added i would guess :) [11:17] Any estimates? [11:19] ...How easy would it be to port something written in Python and PyQT to Ubuntu Touch devices? [11:19] I understand PyQT isn't exactly the same, but just out of curiosity === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch [11:27] Walther, I think it should not be too difficult to write that, as Python should be available in the touch images. The more involved part would be to get a PyQt app to integrate with the shell. [11:27] so that'd be the hard bit [11:28] zAo^: According to last weeks UDS (Ubuntu Development Sessions) session MIR merging is targeted for May 2013 in what is called alpha or Ubuntu v13.05. Watch "Unity ui converged for all form factors" starting at the 04:04 mark http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21679/client-1303-unity-ui-converged/ [11:51] ogra_: Hey Ogra, this is in continuation to the email I sent to the Ubuntu-Touch mailing list [11:52] heh which one :) [11:52] ogra_: I have a samsung galaxy note 2 GT-N7100 International version. I always end up with a black screen after flashing Ubuntu, I can connect to my device using adb. I'm using old drivers [11:52] there are so many [11:52] ah [11:52] ogra_: Old Mali drivers, any pointers to how I could debug [11:53] wait a second [11:53] ogra_: sure === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik [11:55] NazMir, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38891475&postcount=144 [11:55] seems he had to revert two commits ... might make sense to take a look in your tree ands compare [11:58] ogra_: sure, thanks. I will look into it, keep you posted. === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr_ === Xavierdarkness_ is now known as Xavierdarkness [12:32] mmrazik, heya - did anyone succeed in resolving the dns issue? [12:33] dholbach: I don't know. Is something broken ATM? [12:33] retoaded is the right person [12:33] aha [12:33] mmrazik, I was asking because of the change which needed to happen in jenkins to allow changelogs for images - I don't know the details but rsalveti and you talked about it yesterday [12:34] I guess I can ask Ricardo once he's back up again [12:34] dholbach: that jenkins change is there [12:34] ah perfect [12:34] dholbach: I did it yesterday when we talked about it [12:34] sweet [12:34] dholbach: for changelog I still finishing it [12:34] rsalveti, do you ever sleep? :) [12:35] we got the manifest, now just need to hook up the logic to get the package changelog from launchpad [12:35] dholbach: :-) [12:36] ogra_: are you copying a fixed list of files to cdimage? [12:36] I added quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.manifest last night, but seems it wasn't copied over automatically [12:37] dholbach: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-ubuntu_stamp [12:37] stamp is a bit more useful now as well [12:37] added all the git head hash for all the git repos used to build the image [12:37] and the manifest for the ubuntu rootfs, but that needs sync with ogra_ I guess [12:37] rsalveti, oops, yeah, i do [12:38] will add handling for manifest [12:38] rsalveti, wow... that's just the changes for one update image? [12:38] ogra_: cool, thanks [12:38] dholbach: no, that is basically describing the commit used for all the repos when building the image [12:39] so you can reproduce the same exact image if you want [12:39] that also helps when looking for what changed between the images === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [12:40] ah ok [12:41] rsalveti, jono has pinged me about changelog-like blog posts (maybe a bit more 'edited' than an automatic changelog), so I'm not quite sure what to reply back :) [12:42] dholbach: sure, this is just to start, a better changelog will appear by comparing the manifests :-) [12:42] hi [12:42] rsalveti, can you let me know once this is up and running so I can get back to Mr Metal? :) [12:42] I'm first adding all the data that can be useful when comparing images, such as the repos used and the packages available inside it [12:42] dholbach: sure [12:43] perfect, thanks! [12:45] rsalveti, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/20130313/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.manifest for you ... [12:46] ogra_: awesome, thanks :-) [12:46] the sync script will handle it automatically from tomorrow on (you should see it in the log mail too then) [12:47] rsalveti, btw, i'm wondering if we could drop the mwc-demo at some point [12:47] ogra_: probably, lets ping pat next week to see [12:47] i see some xda threads linking to it instead of the daily [12:48] btw, was the browser issue fixed ? [12:48] * ogra_ ponders an update === lol is now known as Guest16235 [12:48] ogra_: it was [12:49] yay === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [13:18] aquarius: did you get your JSONListModel from https://github.com/kromain/qml-utils ? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === juicyjones|away is now known as juicyjones === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:23] mhall119_, no. I did look at that, though. [13:24] aquarius: we should get bzoltan1 to package one up as part of the SDK [13:24] I am here [13:24] At your service gents :) [13:25] mhall119_, I think so too. It needs proper design, though. My one does the absolute bare minimum to do what I needed. A real JSONUrlListModel would need loads of other stuff :) [13:25] I didn't really set out to make a reusable component, because that's tons of work :) [13:26] bzoltan1, subject under discussion: there should be a JSONListModel like XMLListModel. I am not the first person to think of this ;) It would be a Good Thing to have in upstream QtQuick [13:26] bzoltan1: there are several JSONListModel implementations floating about the internet, but we really should provide one "blessed" implementation by default [13:26] building a fully reusable component is quite a lot of work, though. [13:26] (that is not a reason to not do it, of course!) [13:27] and I'm not sure that it should be an Ubuntu SDk thing. This seems precisely like the sort of thing that should be upstream. [13:27] should be, yes === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119 [13:27] but isn't [13:27] aquarius, mhall119: Sounds good, I will take it in our backlogs and talk to my people about it [13:28] I think it fits to the SDK [13:32] bzoltan1, I do too, but it's not an Ubuntu-specific component. If we build it, I think it should go upstream -- although we couldship it before it's accepted by upstream, of course [13:33] aquarius: We upstream as much as possible [13:33] yep, of course [13:34] rsalveti, so i'm trying to distill a seed out of the manifest by excluding all packages that have a task already, do you use the ubuntu-standard task as a base or is that -minimal ? [13:35] ogra_: I think it's minimal + our packages and needed dependencies [13:35] ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5610679/ [13:36] * ogra_ hugs rsalveti [13:36] thats what i was looking for :) [13:37] ogra_: :-) [13:37] but it'd be nice to have a task or similar for it [13:37] or at least a smarter way to find the seeds :-) [13:38] well, we should have an ubuntu-phablet seed for the cdimage builds [13:39] germinate should then care for creating a task from that === kgunnAFK is now known as kgunn [13:41] yeah [13:42] jezz, raining like hell today here [13:43] better than snow at least :) [13:44] * ogra_ is happy its sunny here today... no shoveling for me [13:45] ogra_: yeah :-) [13:45] * dun1982 sunny and raining snow :) === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [14:34] hello === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === oreneeshy_ is now known as oreneeshy [14:56] hey all, I'm trying to update to the latest image with 'phablet -l', any ideas why I'm getting this? -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5610896/ [14:58] dpm: see if there is any update for the phablet tool [14:58] dpm, make sure to have the latest phablet-sync [14:58] git changelogs and a manifest file were added [15:00] ogra_, what's phablet-sync? Is it a binary, or a package...? [15:00] no idea, i never use the tool ... [15:00] dpkg -S $(which phablet) [15:00] (or phablet-sync) [15:01] hey everyone, I have an Asus Transformer Pad TF101 and I've installed Ubuntu touch as per the instructions on (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/tf101), however when it boots I get a black screen, but the backlight works, I'm wondering how I am able to get the logs to see whats happening with it [15:01] use adb [15:01] I've installed CM10.0 fine on the tablet, and it works, so I know that it's not an issue with the tablet itself [15:02] ogra_, I can't find such thing as phablet-sync, only -dev-boostrap, -flash or -network-setup [15:02] I'll recheck if there are any updates [15:02] flash then [15:02] dpkg -S $(which phablet-flash) [15:02] that shjould give you the package name === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle [15:07] I have successfully built the CM 10.1 phablet part for Nexus 4 (mako). Looking for source of quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to build myself [15:08] DaBaang, thats not easily possible [15:09] it uses live-build to create the rootfs but builds from a PPA in a special setup [15:10] hmm... so is it the same for all devices running ubuntu-touch? [15:10] its a genetric rootfs, yes [15:10] *generic [15:11] all HW related bits are in the CM10.1 build you just rolled [15:11] I see, so how can I look at/download the sources of it [15:11] so the rootfs is universally usable on all devices (even the unsupported ports) [15:12] its rolled from indvidual packages, you would have to pull all of them from the PPA [15:13] so something like: pbuilder-dist quantal armhf create would get me the packages? [15:13] mno [15:13] pbuilder builds one package for you [15:14] you really dont want to build that part from source, that needs quite some infrastructure you would need to create [15:14] live-build can build you the rootfs from the debs [15:15] I am looking to get all the sources for ubuntu touch locally to browse the code as a start === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [15:16] DaBaang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5610679/ [15:16] sorry for the really stupid and newbie question, but does this mean that when you flash a custom ROM on a phablet, that it uses the drivers and kernel etc of that ROM and boots from that? [15:16] pull all the sources for these packages pluis all reverse depends for ubuntu-minimal [15:16] if you install ubuntu on top of it [15:16] trhat should give you all the source code [15:19] Is anyone having problems with module-init-tools not running properly and then no /lib/modules//modules.dep ? [15:22] ogra_: I would need some help doing that pull please [15:23] apt-get source $packagename [15:23] for each of the packages [15:23] plus the output of "apt-get depnds ubuntu-minimal" [15:24] and the initial list of packages? [15:25] DaBaang: you still working on the HP touchpad? [15:26] DaBaang, that is the initial list ... all deps of ubuntu-minimal plus the list from the pastebin above [15:28] agcalamitaITA: HPTP does not have a CM 10.1 build yet that I could find [15:29] ogra_: the list in pastebin, is it available on a wiki somewhere as well? [15:30] DaBaang, nope i'm working on getting it into the normal ubuntu seed branch next week [15:30] so you can just bzr branch it like any other ubuntu seed [15:32] ok === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [15:41] hey everybody, I just flashed Ubuntu touch preview to the Nexus 10 device. How do I login? [15:41] eudoxos: What do you mean by 'login'? [15:41] log in ? [15:41] If I use guest account, how to make a new account? I am familiar with terminal, but where to find it? [15:41] you use adb ... read the release notes [15:42] it has the steps how to use ubuntu_chroot from adb and the like [15:42] Default user is 'phablet' -- as above, read the release notes here -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch [15:42] ogra_: thanks for release notes, I did not spot it had that information. [15:42] yeah people rarely read the channel topic :) [15:43] LOL [15:44] hello [15:44] guys do all the features work === MoD is now known as Guest46199 [15:44] hey [15:45] guys is ubuntu nicw [15:45] nice [15:45] Guest46199, YES OF COURSE [15:45] -ping [15:45] do all the features work bro [15:45] like music apps whatsapp [15:45] Guest46199, whatsapp? You mean ubuntu touch!? [15:46] on ubuntu bro [15:46] Guest21051, not whatsapp. We do have a lot of chat clients [15:47] Guest46199, currently ubuntu touch is a developer preview ... while there are some apps in their early stages you need to know how to start them from commandline etc [15:47] its not yet for endusers ... but for the brave :) [15:48] is it worth flashing [15:48] -ping [15:48] Is there a way to not have nautilus break the shell connection to the tablet by trying to mount it every now and then? [15:48] Guest46199: It's not for everyday use [15:49] oohk [15:49] so shud i try it or not [15:49] or will i have to restore [15:49] up to you. [15:49] does the music app work properly [15:49] well it is not an application, if that is what you are asking. [15:50] rsalveti, bug 1154595 (if you havent seen it on the ML) [15:50] bug 1154595 in Phablet Tools ""phablet-flash -l" fails with "Jenkins data format has changed, incompatible"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1154595 [15:50] has a patch :) [15:50] ogra_: thanks [15:50] then what how will i listen to music [15:50] ie. if you install ubuntu touch to your device. you will erase every last bit of the old device information before you install the ubuntu touch preview. [15:50] ogra_: great [15:50] our users are fast :) [15:51] Guest46199, Read the release notes... :) [15:53] I'm 99% sure I saw a preview of Whatsapp messenger working today [15:53] was in a blog post, let me hunt it down [15:53] http://mhall119.com/2013/03/ubuntu-sdk-apps-are-coming/ [15:54] steve_fi, I was speaking to a guy yesterday about it. Should be a stable release Friday IIRC [15:54] you still have to start it via adb or ssh though [15:54] Ah ok, my bad [15:55] which is why i said above its only for the brave yet :) [15:55] aha! missed that one :) [15:55] eudoxos: Basically, adb shell ... then chroot /data/ubuntu then run adduser [15:56] fingers crossed, flashing new image: 10.1-20130312-UNOFFICIAL-p6800 [15:56] genii-around, no you want to follow the release notes and use ubuntu_chroot [15:57] else you will miss container stuff [16:00] Why does add-apt-repository not work over SSH on UT? Am I missing something... [16:01] ogra_: Ah, apologies [16:01] probably the atp-get basic utilities. [16:01] agcalamitaITA, it isnt installed [16:01] ie. you do not have add-apt-repository utility. [16:01] agcalamitaITA: install software-properties-common [16:02] what Sarvatt said [16:02] ok, quick question. What do I need to have in /data/ubuntu/ folder to get my system booted? [16:02] rsalveti, ^^^ is it to heavyweight to include it as long as we do dev preview builds ? [16:02] Didn't think so... though it would have been included... apparently it was a python one. I'll try the software-properties-common. Thanks! PS. How do you 'whisper'/'shout' to a use? [16:02] Ie. even black screen is enough at this point :D [16:02] rsalveti, i think it would massively help [16:03] ogra_: don't think so, let me just check what that will bring to the image [16:03] agcalamitaITA: Use _caps_ or /me Shouts to Ogra :) [16:04] * dun1982 Shouts to ogra_ :) [16:04] DON'T YOU SHOUT AT ME ! [16:04] :) [16:04] But seriously, use /msg nick channel MSG :) [16:05] * ogra_ actually prefers to keep conversations in the channel instead of /msg [16:05] * dun1982 screams loudly, in Kimi Räikkönen style. Still no go for boot :( [16:05] When people direct a message at me, when prefixed with my name and then ':' that's what I wanted to know :) [16:05] alright, how do we go about creating apps for touch? iS IT ALL IN qml OR IS IT A MIXTURE OF TECHNOLOGIES? [16:05] ooops, didnt mean to 'shout' [16:06] ogra_: brings python-apt-common python3-apt python3-software-properties software-properties-common unattended-upgrades [16:06] ogra_: seems fine [16:06] sp lets add it [16:06] 233 kB of archives [16:06] agcalamitaITA: If you want to just direct comment in public chat, then use the way what your IRC-client uses. [16:06] better than having people to add gpg keys and stuff [16:06] ie. in irssi you write nick[tab] MSG [16:06] ogra_: yup [16:06] let me add that [16:07] dun1982, you want to boot into recovery and install the phablet.zip file i suppose :) [16:07] I'm not sure, I can use TAB to select names, it then add's a comma [16:07] dun1982, like this :) [16:07] agcalamitaITA: yup [16:07] ogra_: I did actually. [16:07] and did the content end up in there properly ? [16:07] dun1982, thanks! [16:07] ogra_: my initfrms is wrong I think. I cannot get kernel to boot. [16:08] oh i thought you were in with adb === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [16:08] Now I'm back to recovery. [16:09] how cai i close apps ??? [16:09] *can [16:14] krabador, Swipe up from the bottom of the screen to open the task manager then click the cross in the bottom left hand corner. Or swipe all the way from left to right [16:15] krabador, swipe from the boottom to the middle of the app until you see the looking glass appear, then on the page that pops up there is an X on the bottom left [16:15] LOL [16:15] is there an emulator for ubuntu touch I can run in virtualbox? [16:15] kriskropd, being worked on [16:16] ok [16:16] but it still can take a bit ... sadly CM doesnt have any x86 support yet [16:17] ogra_ agcalamitaITA hahhahha, great!!! [16:17] really useful [16:19] where can I download the current development release of ubuntu for phone or tablets? [16:19] I'm ust now discovering this [16:19] kriskropd: try topic link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch [16:20] There you have all the information that is available at the moment. === juicyjones is now known as juicyjones|away [16:20] dun1982: thanks [16:22] I've installed a core app using apt-get install 'x' from SSH. How do I start the app? [16:25] I have blank screen, what can I do? I see the backlight being turned off/on as I press the power button, but otherwise nothing... [16:25] eudoxos_, what device? [16:25] agcalamitaITA, nexus10 [16:25] You may need to delete the /data partition on the device and flash again [16:25] I added a user via adduser [16:26] and I am able to ssh to the device [16:26] but after reboot, the greeter is missing. [16:26] well the session needs to run as the phablet user ... [16:26] i doubnt the multiuser stuff works yet [16:26] not sure though [16:26] there is no session running at all -- [16:27] eh, there is, in dmesg there is ubuntu-session state chnaged from post-start to running [16:27] that demo has a lot of hardcoded stuff in it (its a preview after all) [16:27] so you might screw up stuff when adding a user [16:29] ogra_, I've installed a core app using apt-get install after adding the PPA -- what's the best way to run this? [16:30] i think thats described in the release notes === Riussi_ is now known as Riussi [16:31] ogra_, it describes running them from QT Creator but not after install IIRC -- I'll take another look! [16:32] I try to delete that user again then [16:33] ricmm: https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/phablet-tools/fixing_build_id_stamp_release_0.7/+merge/153186 [16:34] agcalamitaITA, ubuntu-calculator-app --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/ubuntu-calculator-app.desktop [16:34] agcalamitaITA, thats how i can start the calculator on my phone [16:35] ogra_, Thanks! I'll give it a go. Trying to create a shortcut to SSH... [16:35] Is the proper way to reboot "sudo reboot" or something similar? [16:36]