[08:06] <TheOpenSourcerer> morning all
[08:10] <kvarley> Is there a way to encrypt a external hard drive and have it automatically unlock the drive based off which user logs in?
[08:36] <TheOpenSourcerer> Anyone recommend a decent pub/bar in central London good for a impromptu meetup of about 8 peeps?
[08:44] <jacobw> Good morning
[08:44] <jacobw> TheOpenSourcerer: The Euston Taps
[08:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> jacobw: Sounds like it might be a bit small.
[08:55] <BigRedS_> how central?
[08:55] <BigRedS_> some people consider the city to be central, for others its the west end
[08:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> BigRedS_: Good point - Zone1 would be OK
[08:56] <BigRedS_> so "which central" would probably be a better question :)
[08:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol - I guess the city might be better as it gets quieter as the evening goes... We are there to talk mainly
[08:57] <BigRedS_> of course, now that I've asked that I can't remember which pub it is that I'm picturing. There's definitely at least one reasonably good one for meetings...
[08:57]  * BigRedS_ wanders off to ponder
[09:00] <diplo> Morning all
[09:00]  * TheOpenSourcerer heads off for a skype call with a lady in Nigeria
[09:01] <directhex> TheOpenSourcerer, don't give her £10,000!
[09:01] <directhex> she is not a princess!
[09:02] <TheOpenSourcerer> aww shucks.
[09:02] <diplo> :P
[09:25] <TheOpenSourcerer> What a lovely lady Nigeria. Want's to give me some money :-)
[09:25]  * redtape-renegade tries to listen to Spotify with his Dragon pinkjack-headphone's'. Chillax  
[09:28]  * TheOpenSourcerer wonders if BigRedS has had a brain fart yet?
[09:31] <redtape-renegade> http://open.spotify.com/track/51cEre5bGWwbN5wiR1Bq3X redtape-renegade wonders if he can +bitmark this with a SuperLens ?
[09:32] <dwatkins> Can we arbitrarily combine words now, like 'chill' and 'relax'?
[09:32] <redtape-renegade> MartijnVd does.
[09:36] <JamesTait> Happy St Gerald's Feast Day, all! :-D
[09:46] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[09:47] <redtape-renegade> dwatkins, bitly never gets any easier :: http://spoti.fi/XsanyD
[09:49] <dwatkins> redtape-renegade: "sorry, we're not available where you are, enter your email to stay tuned for good news"
[09:58] <redtape-renegade> dwatkins, Well it was supposed to Link to this  [ http://open.spotify.com/user/martijnvds/playlist/2UHNlhHRMcziirEn188343 ] but the bit.ly builders must have gone bust.
[09:59] <dwatkins> redtape-renegade: no, it's that Spotify doesn't work from Ireland.
[10:01]  * mungbean may have another baby in the next couple of days \o/
[10:02] <shauno> dwatkins: I think that's changed
[10:02] <dwatkins> I had the spotify trial for a couple days last week, I assume it's about £5 or £10 a month, though.
[10:03] <redtape-renegade> dwatkins, troo, it's more MP4 than D4 or that restaurant on Main Street, Kinsale.
[10:03] <dwatkins> I'm not in Ireland, but my internet routes through there - I could probably do some fun things with ssh, though.
[10:04]  * redtape-renegade thinks it's python based..
[10:05] <shauno> free trial? I thought they only did that on mobile/tablet
[10:05] <redtape-renegade> yep .. here's your pass code.. hang-on.
[10:34] <redtape-renegade> shauno, mmmpft. I reposted the Codes4Followers for GB/UK on www.tumblr.com/dashboard .. but must had got lost.
[10:35]  * redtape-renegade      .......             puts his mic teeth back in.
[11:02] <mungbean> this channel seems a lot quieter of late
[11:02]  * Laney bangs some pots
[11:03] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:03] <davmor2> mungbean: yeah popey has had the day
[11:03] <davmor2> off
[11:04] <mungbean> of late, i mean few weeks
[11:04] <mungbean> is popey the lubricant for this channel then..?
[11:05] <mungbean> maybe catalyst is a better choice of word
[11:08] <BigRedS> hahahaha
[11:09] <dwatkins> popeywax
[11:09] <redtape-renegade> redtape-renegade, waps shauno with his hanbag
[11:09] <redtape-renegade> closely followed by an octupus under 'See more from this seller'
[11:10] <redtape-renegade> http:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dolce-Gabbana-Mde-In-Italy-Handbag-Original-New-/320795875601?emailtemplateid=56128391&sellerid=OF5sKOndb35F6nlJ7x25uw==&ssPageName=ADME:B:SEMK:US:SHOWI&buyerid=AwpUkiU0zVfFJmLOwK/3wA==&category=63852&refid=store
[11:10] <redtape-renegade> woops.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dolce-Gabbana-Mde-In-Italy-Handbag-Original-New-/320795875601?emailtemplateid=56128391&sellerid=OF5sKOndb35F6nlJ7x25uw==&ssPageName=ADME:B:SEMK:US:SHOWI&buyerid=AwpUkiU0zVfFJmLOwK/3wA==&category=63852&refid=store
[11:18] <davmor2> mungbean: I know this will come as a shock but a lot of us have been stupidly busy. For some it is the ramp up to the end of the financial year, for others it is the last month to get their holidays in place before they lose them etc etc etc
[11:19] <mungbean> ah, thats unusual, i think eveyr place i've worked does the dec-dec holiday thing
[11:20] <dwatkins> financial year
[11:20] <dwatkins> depends on the company as to which 'year end' is used
[11:20] <mungbean> i'm about to have 3 weeks "off" = paternity+AL
[11:21] <directhex> i'm saving holiday days as "baby is sick" days
[11:21] <davmor2> mungbean: things like that too
[11:21] <mungbean> in my company, baby sick day is allowed as care for a dependent
[11:21] <mungbean> or maybe = WAH
[11:27] <directhex> work at home, with a sick baby? ._.
[11:30] <mungbean> semes to be some scam among contractors at my workplace that is allowed to WAH and be paid when blatantly they are doing a sicky
[11:31] <dwatkins> heh, we have the opposite - people who are ill, but work as much as they can, which may not speed their recovery
[11:32] <mungbean> culture in my work place needs a reboot
[11:33] <mungbean> productivity is <50% of previous roles, made worse by oopen plan offices and bureaucracy
[11:33] <dwatkins> we have an open plan office, it's mostly ok so long as people aren't too loud
[11:33] <dwatkins> some people are very loud, even when standing next to me talking, which is bizarre
[11:34] <shauno> that's an irk here .. we're an open cubefarm, and I'm the loud one
[11:39] <DJones> Don't know if this of any interest to anybody here 2 IT jobs with a charity http://www.compassionuk.org/employment
[11:40] <directhex> DJones, do they pay big bucks?
[11:40] <DJones> directhex: No idea, just it mentioned
[11:40] <mungbean> directhex: charity, then no
[11:40] <directhex> never mind then
[11:41] <directhex> i still need to afford the previously mentioned ponycar
[11:42] <redtape-renegade> !ask
[11:45] <dwatkins> is there some reason not to work for a charity?
[11:45] <mungbean> depends on size of charity i guess
[11:46] <dwatkins> my brother worked for Mercy Ships, the logistics of supplying a modded cruise ship so it could go spend 10 months mooring off African countries to provide free operations are immense
[11:46] <dwatkins> an entire container full of wheelchairs
[11:46] <dwatkins> several jeeps
[11:46] <dwatkins> tonnes of weetabix, washing powder (provided for free because the boxes were wrongly printed etc.)
[11:47]  * redtape-renegade checks the safe for charity- petty cash vouchers.
[11:51] <mungbean> a lot of smaller charities are not well funded and tend to underpay for the skills they are asking
[11:51] <dwatkins> yeah, I can imagine
[11:51] <mungbean> much like public sector
[11:52] <dwatkins> much like outsourcing support
[11:53] <mungbean> although working for a good cause can outweigh the financial downsides
[11:53] <mungbean> you can earn spiritual dollars instead
[11:54] <dwatkins> yeah, I'd rather work for a company that does good than a gigantic coproration that makes bad products or something
[11:54] <dwatkins> trouble is, if you don't offer a high salary, you can end up not getting the most capable people
[11:54] <mungbean> very true
[11:54] <mungbean> i suffer with this in my workplace
[11:55] <dwatkins> as do I, hence my comment on outsourcing
[11:55] <mungbean> now the JDs have descended into "must know prince2 and itil" and no actual skills, hence they will suffer recruiting anyone
[11:55] <dwatkins> it's still within the company, but we have departments in countries which are cheaper. I don't think it's specifically the location that's to blame, just the fact it's 'somewhere else' and we're not offering much money
[11:56] <NET||abuse> I love disk space maths:   Size: 227G  Used: 208G  Avail:8.2G  Use%:97%
[11:57] <NET||abuse> 227G = 216.2G
[11:57] <mungbean> yep
[11:57] <mungbean> OS overheads
[11:57] <mungbean> filesystem overheads sorry
[11:58] <directhex> ext filesystems reserve some percentage as root-only, for disaster recovery
[11:58] <NET||abuse> indeed... it's really alot thoug itsn't it
[12:00] <shauno> it is now that drives are getting huge.  it's a tunable amount though
[12:04] <shauno> the default is 5%, but you can change it with tune2fs (to either a percentage or a fixed number of blocks)
[12:18] <shauno> I really wish dell would let you buy a machine with no harddrive.  but I guess that'd give away their fictional prices
[12:30] <Myrtti> Celestron 31150 LCM 114 Short Computerised Reflector Telescope will be on Amazon's today's deals today at 1700
[12:30] <Myrtti> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0036GNNCC/
[14:19] <Azelphur> just spent the past 3 hours tidying up because I was expecting health and safety inspector today, I read the letter wrong, the appointments next month.
[14:19]  * Azelphur facepalms
[14:22] <directhex> now you have a tidy house!
[14:22] <Azelphur> it's true
[15:00] <czajkowski> and if you have to spend 3 hours tiding
[15:00] <czajkowski> well , you shouldn't :)
[15:34] <bigcalm> Ug peeps
[15:40] <redtape-renegade> MartijnVdS, I've PM'd Whoop also.
[15:50] <Whoop> redtape-renegade: you did?  Your PM got lost
[15:52] <redtape-renegade> Whoop, Well try Pming me, and I will try then.
[16:05] <Whoop> ,,,
[16:05] <Whoop> I think you got the wrong nick
[16:05] <Whoop> you didn't mean to PM me, at least I hope you didnt
[16:07] <redtape-renegade> Whoop, I just got a wut's up .. nothing important/ to do with you, soz.
[16:11] <Twinkletoes> The default postfix install has 'virtual_alias_domains = $virtual_alias_maps', but if I specify a single domain name in this file, postfix says it's not in the right format.  Does anyone know how I specify both in the same file?
[16:33] <diplo> Anyone tried this https://github.com/tooxie/shiva-server ?
[17:12] <BigRedS> I think I know someone who uses that
[17:12] <BigRedS> well, I know someone who I think uses it
[19:17] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:38] <jacobw> Hi sebsebseb
[19:39] <sebsebseb> hi jacobw
[19:40] <mgdm> popey: have a good day?
[19:47] <jacobw> mgdm: he's been refreshed today
[19:47] <jacobw> mgdm: he's now agentinian
[19:47] <mgdm> heh
[19:48] <popey> mgdm: yes ☺
[19:49] <mgdm> popey: was wondering how the cook school was, since my gf has expressed an interest in that sort of thing
[19:52] <popey> will talk later, podcasting...
[19:52] <mgdm> Ah! Didn't realise
[19:54] <popey> np
[20:41] <cocoa117> anyone using duplicity for their backup. why is it important for one using two different passphrases for online backup? one for symmemtric encryption and other for digital signature
[20:42] <cocoa117> if one switched my contents, i would notice when i decrypt it right? because they changed the password
[21:30] <Twinkletoes> Can anyone confirm if (I haevb the wireless-tools package installed), I should be using the wireless- commands in the interfaces file?
[21:36] <MartijnVdS> Twinkletoes: you don't want wireless-tools anymore (iwconfig, iwlist etc.)
[21:36] <MartijnVdS> you want to use "iw" which is in the "iw" package
[21:36] <MartijnVdS> oh.. it doesn't integrate well with /etc/network/interfaces
[21:36] <MartijnVdS> but wpa_supplicante does
[21:36] <MartijnVdS> but wpa_supplicant does
[21:37] <MartijnVdS> why would you want to set stuff manually anyway? :)
[21:37]  * xnox is actually considering to implement StackSort http://m.xkcd.com/1185/ click alt-text
[22:31] <dsample> aquarius, does the twitterfall script from LRL still exist?
[22:32] <shauno> gosh, 80x24 doesn't feel nostalgic at all.  it's pants
[23:23] <^aDaM-ipad2> Evening people :)
[23:24] <^aDaM-ipad2> popey, brobostigon had no luck with my install :( will be burning the .ISO I downloaded to disc when I buy some lol.
[23:26] <^aDaM-ipad2> You guys will know about Roxy Music, I have a rare tour jacket for sale and was wondering where would be the best place to sell it I know its worth a good few grand. Here is the item number for it I have stuck it on eBay.. Item Number: 140932637336
[23:48] <AlanBell> http://webdesign.maratz.com/lab/responsivetypography/realtime/ interesting stuff
[23:48] <AlanBell> would be possibly interesting for the Ubuntu touch platform if that is going to support zoom at all
[23:49] <ali1234> doesn't work on firefox?
[23:49] <AlanBell> works in chromium
[23:49] <AlanBell> yeah, doesn't work in firefox for me either
[23:50] <ali1234> haha when you go to download chrome from google the picture has buttons-on-left
[23:51] <ali1234> they better not have hard coded that
[23:54] <shauno> hopefully firefox will be irrelevant soon enough
[23:55] <ali1234> lol... i don't understand what the point of this is
[23:55] <ali1234> "i can't read this... i'll just move closer too the screen.... damn it got smaller"
[23:58] <shauno> I'm all in favour of webkit "winning". it seems the sensible way to go.
[23:59] <shauno> for a signifant chunk of time, windows used an adaptation of BSD's TCP/IP stack.  which I consider the whole point of bsd licenses.  An implementation that's not just compatible in theory, but reality
[23:59] <shauno> I really want to see webkit do the same for www