/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/03/13/#ubuntu-us-wa.txt

bkerensa	valorie: looks like my funding is approved	22:45
bkerensa	:D	22:45
bkerensa	LFNW or bust	22:45
seattlegaucho	I'll be @ LFNW ... not sure if my talk has been approved or not	22:47
Salt	yay, will be good to see everyone	23:28
Salt	has the ubuntu-wa table been filed for?	23:28
valorie	good question; i don't have a clue	23:30
valorie	I'll send an email to the list	23:30
Salt	there's still a list? >_>	23:31
valorie	done	23:32
valorie	there is always a list	23:32
valorie	that's how ubuntu operates	23:32
bkerensa	lol	23:32
bkerensa	:D	23:32
* valorie gives Salt a silly hat to wear		23:32
Salt	I more mean that I haven't seen anything on the list in forever	23:32
Salt	so maybe I somehow got removed :p	23:33
bkerensa	so when is WA going to apply for approval? :D	23:33
* bkerensa jokes		23:33
Salt	bkerensa, don't get me started	23:33
valorie	or maybe everyone has been busy with other things	23:33
valorie	as I have been	23:33
valorie	now re-starting my Kubuntu involvement	23:33
bkerensa	I blame thefinn93	23:33
bkerensa	:)	23:33
bkerensa	actually its my understanding approvals may go away	23:33
Salt	so word on the street is ubuntu is dropping support for X	23:33
valorie	bkerensa: they are saying that approval is no longer necessay	23:33
bkerensa	or at least a more fair and transparent process	23:34
valorie	necessary	23:34
valorie	since there are no longer perks for being approved	23:34
valorie	right?	23:34
bkerensa	one that doesnt say oh you guys get stuff because you do lots of team reports and jump through hoops	23:34
Salt	oh there we go, ubuntu email	23:34
bkerensa	and you guys dont	23:34
valorie	heh	23:34
bkerensa	well	23:34
bkerensa	there is conference kits	23:34
bkerensa	but is that really a perk?	23:34
bkerensa	and DVD's	23:34
valorie	I tried to do team reports	23:34
Salt	we used to	23:34
bkerensa	I don't	23:34
valorie	but god damn	23:34
bkerensa	not anymore	23:34
Salt	and we also used to get conference kits	23:34
valorie	the system sucks	23:35
bkerensa	its silly bureaucracy	23:35
Salt	-pnw 4 life	23:35
bkerensa	:D	23:35
valorie	I don't care what it's called	23:35
valorie	PNW seems more reasonable to ME	23:35
bkerensa	indeed	23:35
valorie	but a conf kit would be nice	23:35
bkerensa	we still have people from down from WA	23:35
valorie	IF THERE IS KUBUNTU stuff in	23:35
bkerensa	there is not	23:36
bkerensa	=/	23:36
bkerensa	just Ubuntu	23:36
bkerensa	they even stopped the Kubuntu discs which they used to do	23:36
valorie	it's only reasonable for Vanc WA folks to attend Portland events	23:36
valorie	it's 3 freaking hours to Seattle	23:36
valorie	well, they suck	23:36
Salt	we got told to stop being -pnw	23:36
Salt	shrug	23:36
valorie	I know	23:37
bkerensa	we had people from seattle comedown for global jam an last release party	23:37
bkerensa	:s	23:37
bkerensa	Does anyone know who specifically decided pnw-loco could not exist anymore?	23:37
bkerensa	I mean I know it was the CC	23:37
bkerensa	but who was on the CC when the decision was made?	23:37
valorie	they went a bit nuts with their over-bureaucacy	23:37
Salt	bkerensa, I may have logs	23:37
valorie	-cracy	23:38
Salt	-crazy	23:38
valorie	rofl	23:38
valorie	anyway, Mark is a bit unstable atm, so I just want to keep working until things settle down a bit	23:38
valorie	IMO	23:39
Salt	Matthew East it looks like	23:39
bkerensa	oh jesus	23:39
valorie	who the heck is that?	23:39
bkerensa	uhh he is some guy who also leads the doc team	23:39
bkerensa	but really doesnt	23:39
bkerensa	for all purposes he controls the launchpad	23:39
valorie	heh	23:39
bkerensa	and he only gets involved with doc when he wants to butt in	23:39
bkerensa	but he doesnt contribute to the team	23:40
Salt	sorry, this is a long email thread	23:40
Salt	with a number of respondents	23:40
Salt	I could give you 5 CC names	23:40
Salt	:P	23:40
Salt	Jono Bacon was involved, but it seems he was okay with an exception	23:41
Salt	the last person in the thread was Jerome Gotangco	23:41
Salt	who it seems is the one who said "I don't see how having the team split will effect anything"	23:42
Salt	Mark Shuttleworth seemed to be okay with it	23:42
Salt	Bemjamin Mako Hill also seemed to be pulling for us	23:43
Salt	ugh, this is just a long nasty thread I haven't read in a while	23:43
Salt	august 07 for interested parties	23:43
valorie	sorry, I've been digging in ubuntu-devel lately	23:45
valorie	that's enough politics for now	23:45
Salt	it is 19 messages long :P	23:45
Salt	I wish Dan were still around...wonder what he's up to	23:46
bkerensa	Salt: which Dan?	23:47
seattlegaucho	Wow! I've been lurking in the shadows for a while and haven't seen this much traffic in this channel for a while	23:47
Salt	Dan Shufelt	23:47
seattlegaucho	It must be that I just rejoined regularly a couple of weeks ago	23:48
Salt	nope, it's that I usually spend time in another of the 100+ channels i'm in :P	23:48
bkerensa	ahh	23:48
bkerensa	I wonder	23:48
* Salt is totally not egotistical		23:48
bkerensa	he e-mailed me last year	23:48
bkerensa	I guess he is in the army still	23:48
bkerensa	idk	23:48
Salt	yeah, he was repairing helicopters last I heard	23:49
Salt	in .mil	23:49
seattlegaucho	Salt: I keep my channel count to ~5 ... if I need to join a new one, it'd be temporarily and then I'll part	23:50
bkerensa	Salt: apparently he changed his name	23:50
* seattlegaucho trying to keep his incoming channels lean ... age deteriorates bandwidth		23:51
Salt	seattlegaucho, I'm an ircaddict	23:51
valorie	five!	23:51
Salt	that's what a bouncer is for	23:51
Salt	I don't actually attach most of the channels I'm in	23:51
valorie	36 right now	23:51
valorie	usually	23:51
valorie	not all very active	23:51
bkerensa	https://plus.google.com/107413347459406835455/posts	23:52
bkerensa	dan smith/shufelt ^	23:52
Salt	back to this list, looks like Christer Edwards was against -pnw	23:53
Salt	that's totally him, cool	23:53
Salt	I'll have to add him	23:53
Salt	he was a really good group organizer	23:55
valorie	we need one of those	23:58
* valorie isn't one of those		23:58

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