[22:45] valorie: looks like my funding is approved [22:45] :D [22:45] LFNW or bust [22:47] I'll be @ LFNW ... not sure if my talk has been approved or not [23:28] yay, will be good to see everyone [23:28] has the ubuntu-wa table been filed for? [23:30] good question; i don't have a clue [23:30] I'll send an email to the list [23:31] there's still a list? >_> [23:32] done [23:32] there is always a list [23:32] that's how ubuntu operates [23:32] lol [23:32] :D [23:32] * valorie gives Salt a silly hat to wear [23:32] I more mean that I haven't seen anything on the list in forever [23:33] so maybe I somehow got removed :p [23:33] so when is WA going to apply for approval? :D [23:33] * bkerensa jokes [23:33] bkerensa, don't get me started [23:33] or maybe everyone has been busy with other things [23:33] as I have been [23:33] now re-starting my Kubuntu involvement [23:33] I blame thefinn93 [23:33] :) [23:33] actually its my understanding approvals may go away [23:33] so word on the street is ubuntu is dropping support for X [23:33] bkerensa: they are saying that approval is no longer necessay [23:34] or at least a more fair and transparent process [23:34] necessary [23:34] since there are no longer perks for being approved [23:34] right? [23:34] one that doesnt say oh you guys get stuff because you do lots of team reports and jump through hoops [23:34] oh there we go, ubuntu email [23:34] and you guys dont [23:34] heh [23:34] well [23:34] there is conference kits [23:34] but is that really a perk? [23:34] and DVD's [23:34] I tried to do team reports [23:34] we used to [23:34] I don't [23:34] but god damn [23:34] not anymore [23:34] and we also used to get conference kits [23:35] the system sucks [23:35] its silly bureaucracy [23:35] -pnw 4 life [23:35] :D [23:35] I don't care what it's called [23:35] PNW seems more reasonable to ME [23:35] indeed [23:35] but a conf kit would be nice [23:35] we still have people from down from WA [23:35] IF THERE IS KUBUNTU stuff in [23:36] there is not [23:36] =/ [23:36] just Ubuntu [23:36] they even stopped the Kubuntu discs which they used to do [23:36] it's only reasonable for Vanc WA folks to attend Portland events [23:36] it's 3 freaking hours to Seattle [23:36] well, they suck [23:36] we got told to stop being -pnw [23:36] *shrug* [23:37] I know [23:37] we had people from seattle comedown for global jam an last release party [23:37] :s [23:37] Does anyone know who specifically decided pnw-loco could not exist anymore? [23:37] I mean I know it was the CC [23:37] but who was on the CC when the decision was made? [23:37] they went a bit nuts with their over-bureaucacy [23:37] bkerensa, I may have logs [23:38] -cracy [23:38] -crazy [23:38] rofl [23:38] anyway, Mark is a bit unstable atm, so I just want to keep working until things settle down a bit [23:39] IMO [23:39] Matthew East it looks like [23:39] oh jesus [23:39] who the heck is that? [23:39] uhh he is some guy who also leads the doc team [23:39] but really doesnt [23:39] for all purposes he controls the launchpad [23:39] heh [23:39] and he only gets involved with doc when he wants to butt in [23:40] but he doesnt contribute to the team [23:40] sorry, this is a long email thread [23:40] with a number of respondents [23:40] I could give you 5 CC names [23:40] :P [23:41] Jono Bacon was involved, but it seems he was okay with an exception [23:41] the last person in the thread was Jerome Gotangco [23:42] who it seems is the one who said "I don't see how having the team split will effect anything" [23:42] Mark Shuttleworth seemed to be okay with it [23:43] Bemjamin Mako Hill also seemed to be pulling for us [23:43] ugh, this is just a long nasty thread I haven't read in a while [23:43] august 07 for interested parties [23:45] sorry, I've been digging in ubuntu-devel lately [23:45] that's enough politics for now [23:45] it is 19 messages long :P [23:46] I wish Dan were still around...wonder what he's up to [23:47] Salt: which Dan? [23:47] Wow! I've been lurking in the shadows for a while and haven't seen this much traffic in this channel for a while [23:47] Dan Shufelt [23:48] It must be that I just rejoined regularly a couple of weeks ago [23:48] nope, it's that I usually spend time in another of the 100+ channels i'm in :P [23:48] ahh [23:48] I wonder [23:48] * Salt is totally not egotistical [23:48] he e-mailed me last year [23:48] I guess he is in the army still [23:48] idk [23:49] yeah, he was repairing helicopters last I heard [23:49] in .mil [23:50] Salt: I keep my channel count to ~5 ... if I need to join a new one, it'd be temporarily and then I'll part [23:50] Salt: apparently he changed his name [23:51] * seattlegaucho trying to keep his incoming channels lean ... age deteriorates bandwidth [23:51] seattlegaucho, I'm an ircaddict [23:51] five! [23:51] that's what a bouncer is for [23:51] I don't actually attach most of the channels I'm in [23:51] 36 right now [23:51] usually [23:51] not all very active [23:52] https://plus.google.com/107413347459406835455/posts [23:52] dan smith/shufelt ^ [23:53] back to this list, looks like Christer Edwards was against -pnw [23:53] that's totally him, cool [23:53] I'll have to add him [23:55] he was a really good group organizer [23:58] we need one of those [23:58] * valorie isn't one of those