[00:25] <MoPac> Both suspend and hibernate are broken for me in Raring - Vaio F series.  Hibernate (most important for me) apparently triggers a kernel panic: the screen is black and two of my lock indicator lights blink in their characteristic panic pattern.  With suspend, the PC enters suspend power mode but resumes to normal boot with no saved session.  Any ideas?
[00:39] <mint_> hello
[00:40] <mint_> Just ran some updates, and now I can't boot. I get an error something along the lines of   alert /dev/disk/by-uuid  XXXX     help? Running from live USB at the moment
[00:41] <MoPac> mint_: Is your boot partition encrypted?
[00:41] <mint_> negative
[00:42] <MoPac> did you see any errors on your updates?
[00:42] <MoPac> Also, did the updates involve ubuntu-base / the kernel?
[00:42] <mint_> no, everything went fine and just said it needed to reboot in order to finish the updates
[00:43] <mint_> Not sure about the kernel right off hand, but i get the same results even if I try a previous kernel and/or recovery mode
[00:43] <mint_> Now that you mention it, i think Ubuntu base was in there, but not sure what was under that tree heading
[00:43] <MoPac> I don't have any ideas, then -- I've had lots of bad problems with upgrades in raring, but they all seemed to go back to kernel, grub, and encryption issues
[00:44] <mint_> comparing my fstab now with the blkid report
[00:45] <mint_> everything is spot on.. So at this point, am I screwed and need to reinstall?
[00:45] <mint_> thanks for the quick responses, by the way :)
[00:46] <MoPac> well, it is also possible to reubuild the kernel and grub from within live usb
[00:46] <MoPac> in case that's the issue
[00:46] <MoPac> It did get me into a mess because I didn't take my luks encryption step into account, but you don't have that issue
[00:46] <mint_> i still have old kernels installed, so I'm leaning towards grub.
[00:46] <mint_> How do I go about reinstalling Grub?
[00:46] <mint_> worth a shot, anyway
[00:47] <MoPac> The second answer here is specific to kernel rebuilds from live USB, but you can probably use it more genericaly when it comes to telling your live USB session to run boot update things on your real filesystem
[00:47] <MoPac> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[00:51] <mint_> just tried reinstalling grub, no errors reported. Gonna reboot and see what happens. Thanks
[02:37] <nonuby> will there be a clean path to upgrade from 13.04b1 to 13.04rtm? (is that how it was with 12.04 etc..) or is it pave/format time at these junctions?
[03:44] <MoPac> How do I change the order of sources for a package?  I can use apt-cache policy packagename to see the multiple sources, but I don't know how to edit their priority.  There is no etc/apt/preferences file, which many searches tend to point to
[09:56] <murthy> hello everyone
[10:11] <tux_> beta 1 due out today ?
[11:15] <Cv_> hello evry body
[11:15] <Cv_> im gave problem in ubuntu 13.04 oem mode install
[11:16] <Cv_> after run oem-config-prepare
[11:16] <Cv_> in first boot the image appear black screen
[11:16] <Cv_> please help me
[11:37] <Cv_> Hello
[11:37] <Cv_> I need help
[11:38] <Cv_> in issue with ubuntu 13.04
[11:38] <bazhang> what issue
[11:42] <Cv_> i´m use oem install
[11:42] <Cv_> customize background and login screen background with other images
[11:43] <Cv_> every updates and another drivers install like nvidia
[11:43] <Cv_> and ohter progrmas
[11:43] <Cv_> when i run the prep to end user configuration
[11:44] <Cv_> in first boot the screen appear black
[11:45] <Cv_> i see in /var/log/oemfirstboot.conf
[11:45] <bazhang> Cv_, on a single line, thats very hard to read
[11:45] <Cv_> i see in /var/log/configfirstboot.conf
[11:45] <Cv_> ubiquity 2.13.0.15 (oem) only this text
[11:46] <Cv_> my english is very bad sorry
[11:46] <bazhang> Cv_, dont hit the enter key so often
[11:47] <Cv_> issue: after run oem-config-prepare
[11:47] <Cv_> i shutdown the system
[11:47] <Cv_> in first boot
[11:47] <bazhang> !enter | Cv_
[11:50] <Cv_> ok
[11:52] <Cv_> when i run the prep to end user configuration, in first boot the screen appear black nothing else
[12:41] <Kajover> hi. does libreoffice work on the current daily build?
[12:49] <alankila> It worked for me, though I didn't try to actually use it really. Started = works :-p
[12:49] <Kajover> interesting.. when i click on writer.. it lights up two or three times and thats it.. nothing opens.. clean reinstall, two times 13.04 daily from yesterday
[12:51] <alankila> started in about 2 seconds when I tried it.
[12:51] <alankila> try starting it from terminal, take note of the output
[12:51] <alankila> maybe it says something useful. Alternatively, try to scan .xsession-errors, though it's a garbage dump of crap
[12:52] <Kajover> thats an idea,.. ill try it at home. but i dont understand why it shouldnt work.. from a clean reinstall ;)
[12:53] <alankila> it's called lowriter nowadays. I guess they resolved the oowriter name now
[12:56] <Kajover> alinkala, didnt quite understand what you meant
[13:00] <Kajover> ah got it ;)
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[15:11] <roasted> ping murthy
[15:11] <murthy> roasted: hi
[15:11] <roasted> may I ask why this would be +1 related? :P
[15:12] <murthy> roasted: beacuse it cannot be discussed in #kubuntu and its not related to it
[15:12] <murthy> roasted: its a prerelease stuff
[15:12] <murthy> so ubuntu+1 is the right place for it
[15:13]  * genii-around makes a fresh pot of coffee
[15:14] <murthy> roasted: are you new to linux?
[15:14] <roasted> murthy: It's a PPA for a 12.10 machine...
[15:15] <murthy> roasted: you can check if the files are installed in the right folders form muon
[15:15] <roasted> murthy: not at all...
[15:16] <roasted> murthy: but I understood +1 being for non-released versions of Ubuntu. This is for a 12.10 machine. I'm not understanding why +1 was necessary to converse further.
[15:16] <murthy> roasted: is the application available in official 12.10 ppas?
[15:17] <roasted> Do you mean in the official 12.10 repos?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> I'm testing 13.04 , so I just leave the 12.10 stuff to others ...one mucked up OS is enough , don't need 2
[15:18] <murthy> heh
[15:18] <murthy> BluesKaj: can you clarify a doubt?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> well, we can all try murthy
[15:19] <murthy> BluesKaj: can the stuff about homerun laterst version in a ppa be discussed in #kubuntu ?
[15:20] <yofel> murthy: yes
[15:20] <yofel> and unless it's 13.04 certainly not here
[15:22] <zniavre_> hello , what is the best way to upgrade 12.10 to 13.04 please , i do not find the overview page as before ?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> murthy, if it's about 12.10 , but technically not, if it's 13.04
[15:24] <yofel> zniavre_: 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d'
[15:24] <murthy> roasted: whats your kubuntu version?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> murthy, let's notworry about it , it's not that important
[15:24] <roasted> murthy: 12.10, with KDE 4.10 via PPA
[15:24] <murthy> BluesKaj: yes it is, i got allged complaints
[15:24] <zniavre_> yofel,  thank you , there is a web page for overviewing new things and comme worries ?
[15:25] <zniavre_> comon *
[15:26] <philinux> zniavre_: you might like this http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=427
[15:26] <zniavre_> philinux,  thank you
[15:28] <BluesKaj> well, talking about kubuntu issues , whether they're 12.10, 1304 or any other Kubuntu OS in kubuntu-offtopic is wrong anyway , we're not supposed to discuss support probs there anyway
[15:28] <roasted> The splitting hairs things of what's allowed in what channel is so obnoxious sometimes.
[15:28] <roasted> Sorry, candid, but truthful opinion there.
[15:29] <roasted> farewell friends
[15:29] <BluesKaj> well, I don't mean to lecture , just stating what I've been warned about by some  ppl , myself
[15:32] <murthy> BluesKaj: its about the #kubuntu-offtopic stuuf today, but the ops complained that i was using the wrong channels for a long time
[15:32] <murthy> brb going to restart
[15:37] <philinux> zniavre_: just found this http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail-beta-1-preview-7000012602/
[15:38] <BluesKaj> yes murthy,  offtopic means exactly that , if you want to talk about your cat , that's fine , just discuss kubuntu issues in the proper support channels ...very simple
[15:40] <BluesKaj> I'm guilty of it as well tho , and have been reminded now and then , butthere's no point complaining when you're in the wrong
[15:41] <philinux> BluesKaj: correct - thats the whole point of the topic coming up when u join a channel
[15:42] <BluesKaj> even this discussion is technically offtopic :)
[15:43] <philinux> lol indeed
[15:55] <rye> Hi, anybody got an Aspire One netbook with ath5k card somewhere?
[16:16] <MoPac> Hi asll.  I'm trying to diagnose pm problems (particularly hibernate) on my Raring-running Vaio F series laptop.  Can't resume from suspend (kciks down to boot).  Can't hibernate in the first place (experiences apparent kernel panic, locks up with black screen and blinking lock lights)
[16:16] <MoPac> Any help appreciated
[16:17] <MoPac> I'm running 3.8.0-12 (extra)
[16:18] <philinux> MoPac: run ubuntu-bug linux to report the bug
[16:19] <MoPac> It's auto-reported a couple of times already on resume, and I've added detail
[16:19] <MoPac> But I'm wondering if there might be a workaround out ther e-- I had some similar problems with Quantal that I was able to fix myself
[18:32] <geomyidae_> CAn someone pleaes help me figure out why I can't login to cups?
[18:33] <geomyidae_> This is infuriating. I'm in the lpadmin group, it worked fine on my old 12.10 server.
[18:33] <geomyidae_> I haven't modified anything
[18:33] <geomyidae_> .
[18:46] <tux_> is beta 1 out today?
[19:25] <Kajover> hey.. i cannot open libreoffice (writer) from the sidebar but from terminal instead.
[19:26] <Kajover> terminal output: javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment! Warning: failed to read path from javaldx
[19:31] <Kajover> ah yes.. is there a way to fix that?
[19:34] <alankila> Getting some nice text rendering out of my ubuntu: https://bel.fi/alankila/lcd/lwn.png
[19:36] <alankila> hacked pixman yesterday and today to employ a technique called alpha correction. It's now good enough that all cairo-based applications can use it, though it throws gpu acceleration away I guess.
[19:39] <alankila> it's also completely unacceptable and unmergeable for any practical purpose and in fact inferior to solving the problem properly. But in am imperfect world you take what you can get, and this hack has some benefits.
[19:40] <alankila> the real solution, unfortunately, requires applications to be written from ground up unless I can convince some minds that this method will never fly.
[19:44] <geomyidae_> I really like how Ubuntu renders things now.
[19:44] <geomyidae_> I can't stand mac or windows font rendering.
[19:47] <alankila> one likes what one sees, I suppose. I use somewhat more objective arguments such as the fact that linux font rendering pipeline has no gamma correction, and this causes alpablending to not really work correctly.
[19:47] <alankila> and that causes a lot of kludges all over the stack, the worst example is known as the infinality patchset which goes to individual glyph level trying to fix them up with some algorithms that I did not bother to study
[19:49] <alankila> the difference is visible in this sample rendering I made last year: https://bel.fi/alankila/pixman/fontscol.png
[19:49] <alankila> the above is the gamma-aware renderer, the bottom is the default renderer. As can be observed, hopefully, ignoring gamma generates a dark halo around every glyph and this is an artifact. It can make text very difficult to read.
[19:50] <alankila> You can see here a prime example of very difficult to read text in an artificial example: https://bel.fi/alankila/lcd/sample.png and again, the example is artificial but shows what it means for text legibility.
[19:51] <alankila> in addition to causing these issues, the ignored gamma causes LCD text to have color fringing or tint, and causes curves in glyphs to appear dirty or smudgy, because they are much darker than they should be.
[21:17] <geomyidae_> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[23:38] <airlynx> Need help, installing 13.04 and it's stuck at "Removing conflicting operating system files" and hasn't moved for over an hour
[23:41] <murthy> kubuntu13.04 beta1 is available
[23:41] <murthy> enjoy testing
[23:43] <kblin> hi folks
[23:45] <kblin> I'd like to play with 13.04 on my notebook. But I'd like to either keep my current encrypted lvm setup or set that up again on the new system. is there an installer I can use for either of those solutions?
[23:50] <murthy> good night everyone