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cyphermoxachiang: the problem is I do need to do the first 24k updates, and that still means nearly an hour at 90ms per update I think?01:06
achianghm...01:08
achiangcyphermox: well, easier to repro than my 24 hours ;)01:08
cyphermoxit is ;)01:09
cyphermoxand so far it seems pretty foolproof01:09
achianggood to have a reproducer. makes me feel like you'll solve it. :)01:11
cyphermoxstill need to dive yet again in the code to find out where things went wrong, but yeah the furture is getting brigther01:12
* cyphermox takes that opportunity to make a new debian vm01:12
cyphermoxnot bad, already reaching 10k01:16
cyphermoxI should figure out a way to slow it down via some file or whatever01:16
robruStupid facebook API documentation is *terrible*. Imagine trying to read an API documentation that listed only methods and return values, no call signatures. There is literally zero information about the supported parameters to these REST API methods... I am literally reduced to using the API explorer and guessing call arguments until i stumble on the effects that I want.01:25
robruCurse you zuckerberg!!!01:25
cyphermoxachiang: it's not an overflow, barely 20k and already broke01:42
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pittiGood morning04:55
didrocksgood morning06:31
mlankhorstrobru: no open source clients you could take apart? :p06:33
pittibonjour didrocks06:35
didrocksguten morgen pitti, wie geht's?06:40
pittididrocks: much better now that I found out (and fixed) why people get boot breakage with raring-proposed :)06:41
didrocks:)06:41
pittiother than that: Je veux revenier au printemps!!!06:42
pittiI again biked through snow last night06:42
didrocks:)06:45
* didrocks sees blue sky and sun here06:45
pittihere too again, but it's still cold06:45
didrocksyesterday, had a very little bit of snow (went from 10° to 2°)06:45
didrocksbut the temperatures are up again \o/06:45
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chrisccoulsongood morning07:44
didrockshey chrisccoulson!07:45
didrockschrisccoulson: congrats :)07:46
jibelgood morning07:46
chrisccoulsonthanks :)07:46
chrisccoulsonhow are you?07:46
didrockschrisccoulson: can I mark my thunderbird hangup as a security issue? ;)07:46
chrisccoulsonhah ;)07:46
larsulol07:46
didrockschrisccoulson: I'm good, thanks! Hoping today will be less crazy than the previous days :)07:46
didrocksand you?07:46
didrockshey larsu!07:46
didrockssalut jibel07:46
larsugood morning everyone :)07:46
didrockshow is London?07:46
larsucold!07:47
jibelbonjour didrocks07:47
larsubut sunny this morning07:47
didrocks:)07:48
didrockspitti: hey! not sure if you can bump ppa builds (virtualized ones). i386 built, but it would be coll to have amd64 building quickly for those: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/experimental-prevalidation/+build/436912708:15
didrockspitti: there will be unity in the near future, but I prefer to wait libunity building on amd64 first as otherwise, it will just dep-wait08:16
pittididrocks: you, je peux08:16
pittierr, "oui"08:16
pittihow on earth did I type "you"?08:16
didrockspitti: same group of letters :)08:18
didrockspitti: Danke Schön!08:18
pittide rien, mon ami!08:18
didrockswill bother you again on Unity later08:19
didrockspitti: btw, do you know how oftenly dep-wait are retried on a ppa?08:19
didrockspitti: if they are at all?08:19
pittididrocks: distro builders retry on every publisher update AFAIK; no idea about PPAs I'm afraid08:19
pittic'est un question de infinity08:20
didrockspitti: yeah, I'm on the ppa one, I'll retry manually the ones I'm really interesting in08:20
didrockspitti: let's try it in French with infinity :-)08:20
pittididrocks: il l'aime!08:21
didrocks:)08:21
mlankhorstspeaking of unity, how do I tell it to use as little memory as possible? for bug 112171508:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 1121715 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (Ubuntu) "Unity corruption with nouveau driver on GeForce 7025" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112171508:21
didrocksmlankhorst: would be a question for upstream on #ubuntu-unity08:22
didrocksmlankhorst: I would say disable plugins08:22
pittididrocks: it just occurred to me -- is there any pronounciation difference between "Vincent" and "25" (vingt-cinq)?08:28
pittijust the "k" at the end?08:29
didrockspitti: no, it's a little bit different08:29
didrockslike vincent would be "20 100"08:29
didrocks(vingt  cent)08:29
pittiaah08:30
didrockscinq is more like "un" (1)08:30
didrocksso "un" "en" are quite similar, but the pronouciation is different08:30
pittiok, you gotta teach me the difference in Oakland or so :)08:30
didrockspitti: will do for sure! :-)08:30
didrockswhile running in the morning exercice :)08:31
pittic'est un bon occasion pour le comptage :)08:32
pitti"1001, 1002, 1003..."08:32
didrockshéhé, tu veux compter le nombre de pas? c'est un peu rapide ;)08:32
* pitti peut compter à 100 seulement08:33
didrocksça fait un peu court comme course :-)08:34
didrockson comptera les maisons!08:34
pittihaha08:34
pittididrocks: I'll just wrap around after 99 :)08:34
didrocks;)08:35
pittion a more serious note, I'll have a go at adding logind support to indicator-session08:38
didrockssweet!08:38
pittiit's talking to gnome-session for shutdown/reboot also seems broken08:38
pitticalling gnome-session's shutdown through d-feet works fine, but from the indicator it's working08:38
pittierr, s/working/broken/08:38
didrocksurgh08:38
didrockseven with latest unity?08:38
didrocksbecause unity has the shutdown dialog now08:38
pittiwell, it falls back to ConsoleKit, so I guess we just never noticed08:38
didrockswas working when trying it08:38
didrocksah08:38
pittihm, not here08:38
pittiwell, I'll debug it; I guess nobody else is working on that right now? larsu?08:38
didrocksI don't think so…08:38
didrockspitti: mind bumpint the priority for those, now that libunity is published: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/experimental-prevalidation/+build/436908508:38
didrockshttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/experimental-prevalidation/+build/436908208:38
didrocksand https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/experimental-prevalidation/+build/436906708:39
pittididrocks: comment tu dis "done!" à français ?08:39
pitti"dis-tu"08:40
didrockspitti: "fait"08:40
didrocksor rather:08:40
didrocks"fait !"08:40
pittioui, c'est simple08:40
didrocks(notice the space ;))08:40
pittididrocks: fait !08:40
didrockspitti: merci beaucoup ;)08:40
pittididrocks: yeah, I have a really hard time teaching myself to use improper spacing before punctuation :)08:40
didrockspitti: rohhh "improper" :-)08:41
seb128hey desktopers08:41
seb128lut didrocks pitti08:41
didrockssalut seb12808:41
* pitti donne une accolate à didrocks08:41
pitti... et seb12808:41
* seb128 hugs pitti back08:41
* didrocks donne une accolade à pitti ;)08:41
pittiexcusez-moi, "accolade" (typo)08:41
pittiseb128: comment vas-tu ce matin?08:42
pittiseb128: comment vas-tu ce matin ?08:42
pittigrrr improper spacing!08:42
seb128pitti, je veux bien, mais j'en ai assez du froid, je veux le printemps !08:42
seb128pitti, et toi ?08:42
pittiseb128: mon aussi !08:42
* didrocks scrutinize the correct use of spacing finally on this channel :)08:43
pittiseb128: mais il ne neige plus ici08:43
seb128pitti, ici non plus, mais c'est gelé avec de la neige au sol08:43
* pitti grabs dictionary for gelé08:44
pittiah08:44
pittinous avons mangé de la glace semaine dernière !08:45
seb128c'était presque le printemps : -(08:45
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pittimake[3]: Entering directory `/home/martin/upstream/indicator-session/tests'08:49
pittimake[3]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/gtest/gtest-all.cc', needed by `gtest-all.o'.  Stop.08:49
pittiHALP!08:49
pittiI do have libgtest-dev08:49
pittilarsu: any idea?08:49
pittiI have a /usr/src/gtest/src/gtest-all.cc08:50
pittihm, I ran autogen again, works now; sorry for the noise08:51
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larsupitti: I'm letting charles know anyway ;)09:06
charlespitti, we could fix this but I'm not sure it's an interesting thing to fix:09:06
charlespitti: I'm going to be landing a Large rewrite of the tests in i-session in the next couple of days09:06
charlesif the problem persists after that then it would be more interesting09:07
Laneymorning!09:09
pittihey Laney09:11
Laneyhey pitti, how are you?09:11
pittiLaney: quite fine, thanks! much better after fixing broken boot this morning :)09:12
Laneythis transition seems to be keeping you busy :-)09:12
pittiheh, you bet09:12
pittiLaney: Lennart was quite right with "we'll have pain"09:12
pittiI called  him last night to discuss the sd_booted() API mess, and we got some agreement09:13
Laneynew API?09:13
pittiLaney: but the boot fix was due to an ancient hack in libudev which I didn't port, and had long forgotten about09:13
Laneywhat does he think of logind being used standalone? was that an intended usecase frmo the start?09:14
pittino, not at all (and it still isn't)09:14
pittibut he agreed to changing sd_booted() to actually mean "systemd init", and giving us a function "shoudl I talk to logind"09:14
pittithen we "just" need to fix the 20-or-so packages in Debian/Ubuntu/upstream which use sd_booted() and mean "logind"09:15
* Laney nods09:15
pittibut I reall want some help there09:15
Laneywell if you mail about what you need I'm sure some people (myself included) can help09:16
pittiyeah, once we have a final settlement between upstream, Debian, and us how this should look like09:16
Laneysee my ping in #-devel last night, BTW? Broken audio and brightness adjustment with the PPA pkgs09:17
pittiLaney: it got drowned in the OMGboot messages, sorry09:17
pittiLaney: getfacl /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c ?09:18
pittido you have an ACL there?09:18
LaneyI ppa-purged it already, sorry09:18
Laneyneeded to watch a youtube video to tell me how to cook dinner /o\09:18
pittiah, ok09:18
LaneyI would upgrade again but I don't see a systemd package in there any more?09:19
pittiLaney: right, I removed it because that's in raring-proposed now09:19
pitti(with some fixes)09:19
pittiI did a full dist-upgrade to raring-proposed this morning, works fine here09:19
pitti(that includes the libudev1 transition)09:19
Laneyit will kill me with half done haskell, but perhaps I can hold that back09:20
Laneyto the aptatron09:20
pittithat reminds me, pulseaudio needs to be fixed harder, apparently it has a hardcoded libudev0 dpe09:20
pittioh09:20
pittiLaney: or just grab the debs from LP?09:20
Laneyall of libudev1? sounds annoying09:20
pittiLaney: no, just systemd-services and libudev1, and the libsystemd* libs09:21
Laneyhuh, no - apparently I have already transitioned all of the ghc bits that I have installed :-)09:22
Laneydist-upgrade looks fine09:22
* Laney reboot09:26
Laneyyeah, seems to work still09:28
pittiooh09:28
pittididrocks, larsu, charles: so is indicator-session actually being used for shutdown? I see ConsoleKit reboot/logout stuff in unity09:29
pittibut these also try gnome-session first and fallback to CK09:29
didrocksTrevinho_: ^^09:29
charlespitti, it will call the unity shutdown dialog; but if that's not present, indicator-session has a small utility that calls ConsoleKit itself09:30
pittiright, but gtk-logout-helper -r also works fine (talking to gnome-session)09:30
pittiso I wonder why calling gnome-session Reboot() works, gtk-logout-helper works, but when I click reboot in the indicator menu it just brings me back to lightdm09:31
pittiperhaps it tells the session to shutdown first, so that gnome-session's D-BUS API already went away?09:31
pittiand thus it falls back to the (nonexisting) CK API?09:32
pittithat would explain why I do get logged out, but not rebooted09:32
charlespitti, I'm in the middle of a blueprint planning right now and will have to get back to you in ~1 hr09:33
pittiack, thanks09:33
RoyKhi all. any idea how I can make ubuntu *not* flash the problem report dialog *even* if something crashes? This system is for automated use, and I don't want those dialogs09:34
pittiRoyK: uninstall apport, or set "enabled=0" in /etc/default/apport09:34
RoyKthanks09:36
pittididrocks: can we get bug 1155021 into the attention pipeline somehow?09:40
ubot2Launchpad bug 1155021 in unity (Ubuntu) "Add logind support (ConsoleKit is being deprecated)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115502109:40
didrockspitti: I can talk about it, but with 100 scopes project urgency, I doubt it will be for raring09:41
seb128pitti, ping Trevinho_ about it09:41
seb128he just wrote that code09:41
didrocksseb128: I've already pinged him :)09:41
seb128k09:41
didrocks10:29:35      didrocks | Trevinho_: ^^09:41
pittiit's quite simple code, but I'd like to at least discuss with upstream about how they want this conditionalized09:42
pittii. e. configure option, etc.09:42
pittithe actual code to call logind is a simple copy&paste exercise09:42
didrockspitti: I'll keep the tab opened and discuss about it next meeting if Trevinho_ doesn't answer first (next Tuesday)09:43
pittiactually, I'd really like to find out what's wrong with calling gnome-session, that just DTRT09:45
pittiand would avoid duplicating this over indicator-session and unity09:46
didrocksindeed, makes sense, let's wait for him to be online09:47
pittiLaney: still no ACLs on /dev/snd/* ?09:48
Laneypitti: looks fine (and works) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5613166/09:50
Laneyso either fixed or it was logind ;-)09:51
Laneywhen it was broken I had nothing other than Dummy Output in the sound capplet09:51
seb128Laney, oh btw, you added an upstart job to indicator-weather, does it mean it's ran twice now (I think you didn't desactivate the autostart for it)?09:54
Laneyno, it just doesn't launch the second time09:56
seb128you mean?09:57
seb128indicator-weather is single instance and will exit if one is running?09:57
Laneyindicator-weather is already running; doing nothing09:57
Laneyor so09:57
seb128right09:57
seb128so we still waste cycles to start something that then exit09:57
seb128not a big deal but it's something we should consider when we start adding upstart jobs09:57
Laneyyeah09:58
seb128my idea was to drop Unity from the autostart .desktop when we add the jobs09:58
Laneyit's hard at this point because they're opt-in09:58
seb128right09:58
Laneyso you have to say "is this session running under upstart? then ignore the autostart file"09:58
seb128yeah, it's a bit tricky10:00
seb128one easy way would be to say "unity is upstart based"10:00
seb128then we can start migrating stuff by dropping unity from the .desktop when we add the upstart jobs10:00
seb128it's a bit tedious and not really flexible though10:00
Laneyit's still not on by default even for that10:01
Laneyyou can test $UPSTART_SESSION being nonempty10:01
Laneytest -n "$UPSTART_SESSION" && old_command or so10:02
seb128right10:02
Laneyor ...10:03
Laneyis that directory specified by an $XDG_... env var?10:04
Laneywe could prepend to that to shadow it10:04
Laneyah, $XDG_CONFIG_HOME is a single directory so that doesn't work10:05
seb128I would just go for "make unity an upstart user session" and once that's done, add the jobs/drop Unity from the .desktop targets through the components10:07
seb128that's easy enough for Unity10:07
seb128but doesn't really work out that well for other desktop if they don't do it the same sort of transition10:08
didrockspitti: are you really sure you did push the trigger for https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/experimental-prevalidation/+build/4369085? it seems we still have the default score :)10:13
pittididrocks: done now; I may have grabbed the wrong url, sorry10:13
didrockspitti: no worry, thanks!10:13
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pittiLaney: oh, I know what could be the reason of temporary ACL failure10:25
pittiLaney: I didn't disable udev-acl in the PPA yet, so both logind and udev-acl will fiddle with ACLs; the rule in /lib/udev/rules.d/70-udev-acl.rules which is supposed to prevent that doesn't help10:27
Laneyah yes, makes sense that logind will have to do this10:32
pittiLaney: udev_175-0ubuntu21_source.changes uploaded with a fix10:35
pittiI'll completely drop udev-acl once we land logind as a default, but until then this will do nicely to get out of the way10:36
LaneyI suppose that explains brightness too10:38
Laneymerci!10:38
Trevinho_pitti, didrocks, seb128: so I'm back10:41
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seb128Trevinho, hey10:42
Trevinhohi seb128, thanks for merging the nautilus patches10:42
seb128Trevinho, yw, does it need an unity fix as well?10:42
Trevinhopitti: about ConsoleKit in unity, I just implemented that as a fallback in the remote case that gnome-session fails10:43
Trevinhoseb128: for having the icons illumination, yes10:43
seb128Trevinho, click on an usb stick icon in the unity launcher still opens several instance of nautilus rather than focussing the existing one10:43
Trevinhoseb128: it should open a new one, but clicking again on it it re-uses the same view10:45
seb128Trevinho, not here, it keeps opening new views10:45
Trevinhoseb128: o_O it works here10:45
Trevinhoseb128: it re-open a new one if you're in a sub dir of the opened one10:46
seb128well, I start a fresh session, plug an usb stick, click 5 times on the unity icon10:46
seb128I get 5 nautilus views on /media/<id>10:46
Trevinhoseb128: we can in case fix this, but only for ubuntu since upstream can't accept a such behavior for everything10:46
Trevinhoo_O10:47
seb128doing "nautilus /media/<id>" from a command line doesn't open new ones10:47
seb128not sure what the launcher is calling10:47
Trevinhoseb128: ah, wait... let me think10:47
Trevinhoseb128: mh, I've just pushed to unity some patches for this (but mostly related to the focus)10:48
Trevinhoand it works here, so... let me check how it would work without them10:48
Trevinhoseb128: it shouldn't btw, since unity is calling the same path as you'd do by command line10:50
pittiTrevinho: that's what I figured, but the g-session call doesn't seem to work10:50
Trevinhoseb128: are you sure to run the new nautilus in that session?10:50
pittiTrevinho: if I call RequestReboot() from g-session through d-feet or gdbus, it works fine10:51
pittiTrevinho: but not if I call it from the indicator, which makes me wonder what happens in addition10:51
seb128Trevinho, yes10:51
Trevinhopitti: the indicator is not calling RequestReboot now, but Reboot since this implies a call to the org.gnome.shell EndSessionDialog that we implement10:52
seb128Trevinho, as said, if I do "nautilus /media/usb_stick" from a command line it doesn't open a duplicated view10:52
pittiTrevinho: same difference, that also works10:52
pittiTrevinho: I wondered if something killed the session before it calls [Request]Reboot()?10:52
Trevinhopitti: I'm wondering if logind is talking with gnome-session and if this changes something on the behavior we have10:52
pittiTrevinho: I'll log session and system d-bus requests, try logout from the indicator, and see what happens10:53
pittiTrevinho: btw, if I install consolekit, the indicator restart does work again10:54
pittibrb10:54
Trevinhopitti: mh, ok10:55
seb128Trevinho, hum, if I open the trash and close the view on it I get some warnings on stdout/err10:56
seb128(nautilus:26549): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance with invalid (NULL) class pointer10:56
Trevinhoseb128: Mh, I check them10:57
seb128Trevinho, that was already happening before you patch it seems (just downgraded and still got that)10:57
Trevinhoseb128: ah, ok...10:57
seb128well, in fact I get10:57
seb128(nautilus:27254): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance of invalid non-instantiatable type `<invalid>'10:57
seb128with the old version10:58
TrevinhoI check10:58
seb128Trevinho, what is running the commands when you click on an icon from the launcher?10:58
seb128I tried to strace compiz to see what nautilus command is called10:58
seb128but that doesn't work10:58
seb128doh10:59
Trevinhoseb128: g_app_info_launch_default_for_uri with the mount location10:59
seb128I used the wrong pid10:59
seb128Trevinho, [pid 27938] execve("/usr/bin/nautilus", ["nautilus", "--new-window", "/media/seb128/e5654efa-864c-4efc"...], [/* 48 vars */]) = 011:00
pittiTrevinho: meh, this is quite ridiculous -- I tried four times after a clean boot, and four times it failed and threw me back to lightdm11:00
seb128Trevinho, does it use the .desktop to get the command?11:00
pittiTrevinho: then I tried four times with dbus-monitor attached, and it always worked11:00
pittiTrevinho: heisenbugs at its best!11:01
Trevinhoseb128:11:01
Trevinhoseb128: yaeh, that's the problem11:01
seb128Trevinho, wonder why it doesn't do it for you then?11:02
pittihm, and now my unity/compiz settings are ruined11:02
Trevinhopitti: oh11:02
Trevinhoseb128: because I've not installed the new .desktop file! :/11:02
didrockspitti: and it's not Tuesday! :)11:02
seb128Trevinho, I see, good, at least it makes sense now11:02
Trevinhoseb128: so... how can we make sure that the --new-window is not used when opening with a parameter, just using the .desktop file?11:03
pittididrocks: indeed, so that's not it :)11:03
Trevinhoseb128: otherwise the other way we have is adding some special code to untiy to pass that "--new-window" parameter only on middle click... but I would have avoided it11:03
pittimeh, I want my keybindings back11:03
pittismells like bug 1042041 again11:04
ubot2Launchpad bug 1042041 in compiz (Ubuntu) "1:0.9.8+bzr3319-0ubuntu1 regression: keeps setting gsettings keys to wrong values" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104204111:04
seb128Trevinho, let me think11:04
pittibut that'll be history with the unity rewrite anyway11:04
seb128Trevinho, we could try to make /usr/share/applications/nautilus-folder-handler.desktop be used11:05
Trevinhoseb128: yeah11:05
Trevinhoseb128: however if we really can't do it, I'd just remove the --new-window as default from the .desktop file, keeping it only on the quicklist11:08
seb128Trevinho, it would mean that running nautilus from the dash wouldn't start a new view if you already have one open though11:09
seb128which is a bit weird11:09
Trevinhomh11:10
seb128Trevinho, I wonder if just changing /usr/share/applications/defaults.list inode/directory=nautilus.desktop to nautilus-folder-handler.desktop would fix it?11:13
Trevinhoseb128: it should11:14
Trevinhoseb128: can you give a try?11:14
seb128Trevinho, that seems to work11:15
seb128Trevinho, let me do that change then11:15
Trevinhoseb128: wow11:15
seb128Trevinho, we still have focus issues though :-(11:15
Trevinhoseb128: how it's made it?11:16
Trevinhoseb128: are you on unity dev?11:16
seb128no, raring11:16
Trevinhoseb128: ok so wait for the update11:16
seb128ok11:16
Trevinhoseb128: it's arleady in trunk11:16
seb128Trevinho, "how it's made it?", you mean? the defaults.list?11:16
Trevinhoseb128: yes11:16
seb128Trevinho, it's a static list we ship in desktop-file-utils package11:16
Trevinhoseb128: ah. ok11:17
seb128Trevinho, thanks for work, and glad we found an easy solution to the .desktop issue ;-)11:17
Trevinhoseb128: np, thank you for looking into it :)11:17
Trevinhoseb128: wouldn't be better to have a NN_git_* naming for the git patches as well?11:19
Trevinhoseb128: since in this way applying them in order doesn't make a workable nautilus at all the stages11:20
Trevinhoseb128: I mean, working on bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu/nautilus/ you can't push/pop the patches and always having a compilable nautilus11:20
Trevinhodidrocks: one thing I always forget, if I open a bug for upstream unity, will the merger automatically include the distro bug when merging/releasing or not?11:22
Trevinhodidrocks: I mean, will it show in the changelog?11:22
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seb128Trevinho, the series define the order11:25
didrocksTrevinho: if you mention in the commit "bug #12345" of anything similar to it, or if you bzr commit --fixes lp:12345 or if you link to the MP11:25
ubot2Launchpad bug 12345 in isdnutils (Ubuntu) "isdn does not work, fritz avm (pnp?)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234511:26
seb128Trevinho, so no need of the nn_11:26
didrocksor*11:26
didrocksTrevinho: those are the 3 ways to have the change mentionned in the changelog11:26
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, but the name helps11:26
didrocksTrevinho: the linkage to the MP should be done BEFORE it's merged though11:26
Trevinhodidrocks: yaeh, but I mean... I open a bug #1234567 on lp:unity (only), will bhe the lp:ubuntu/+source/unity bug added automatically?11:27
seb128Trevinho, good point, will keep the numbering next time (I just like to have the git_ info since it makes easier to filter out things that are upstream or not)11:27
didrocksTrevinho: if the bug is linked one way or another to a commit in the branch, yeah, downstream is opened automatically11:27
Trevinhoseb128: yes, it makes sense11:27
Trevinhodidrocks: ok, fine thanks11:28
didrocksyw!11:28
Trevinhodidrocks: as I don't always remember to do both (but I try)11:28
didrocksTrevinho: no worry, I'm doing it for you automatically in that case :)11:28
* Trevinho loves didrocks' bots11:28
didrocks:-)11:28
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pittinon! il neige à nouveau12:24
pittiquand va-t-il terminer ?12:25
Trevinhopitti: au moins, nous avons la chance de travailler à domicile! ;)12:29
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didrockspitti: toujours un grand soleil ici et ciel bleu12:38
didrockspitti: mais beaucoup de vent12:38
didrocksTrevinho: vraiment? tu parles français aussi?12:39
didrocks***headlines***12:39
didrocks:-)12:39
Trevinhodidrocks: oui.. Je l'ai étudié à l'école, mais je ne le rappelle plus très bien...12:40
didrocksTrevinho: assez bien tout de même12:41
didrocksTrevinho: if you choose me as a performance peer reviewer, you just won an extra bonus point :)12:41
* Trevinho adds him :D12:41
didrocks;)12:42
didrocksTrevinho: you were not kidding! :)12:43
Trevinhodidrocks: ahah, non... Je ne perdre pas les occasions :)12:45
didrocks;)12:45
seb128pitti, ici aussi il neige :-(12:45
seb128didrocks, t'en fais pas, je t'envoie la neige, devrait être là demain :p12:45
didrocksseb128: t'as déjà essayé hier pendant que je courrais!12:45
didrocksc'était vil et mesquin!12:45
seb128;-)12:46
didrocksthanks god, Lyon is a good city to live in :) http://france.meteofrance.com/france/meteo?PREVISIONS_PORTLET.path=previsionsville/69123012:46
* Trevinho sais que ubuntu-desktop sera en francais...12:46
didrocksTrevinho: how many phoronix posts once we've done that? :-)12:47
ogra_OMG ... all that phablet porting makes people speak in tongues !12:47
didrocksheh12:47
didrocksogra_: then, your tablet will start to be on strike :)12:48
ogra_haha12:48
didrocks"but but, I want you to start"12:48
didrocks"no"12:48
ogra_"non" you mean :)12:48
didrocksand the phone will tell that they finished working12:48
didrocksogra_: right non :)12:48
didrocks"c'est la fin de journée"12:48
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qenghokenvandine: I would like your advice.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/115313714:02
ubot2Launchpad bug 1153137 in chromium-browser "Please remove recommends on webaccounts-chromium-extension and unity-chromium-extension" [High,Triaged]14:02
qenghoalso lp bug#115421814:04
* qengho slaps ubot214:04
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xclaesselibEGL warning: GLX/DRI2 is not supported --> hm, Xephyr in raring is still broken :(15:19
seb128xclaesse, is Xephyr supposed to support glx?15:25
xclaesseseb128, on quantal I had to backport precise's package15:26
xclaesseseems on raring it's still not fixed15:26
seb128precise is older15:26
xclaessethere is a bug somewhere for that15:26
seb128backport is the other way around usually :p15:26
xclaesseseb128, older but it works :)15:26
seb128what package did you have to backport? only the xephyr one?15:26
xclaesseyep15:27
xclaesseIIRC the bug was fixed upstream for months15:27
seb128tjaalton, mlankhorst: ^ know about that?15:28
xclaesseactually raring has the same version than quantal15:28
xclaesseso it's not surprising15:28
mlankhorstnobody has bisected it though15:30
xclaesseseb128, voilà, just dpkg -i the .deb from precise and it works now15:30
mlankhorsti think15:30
xclaesseohh, compiz now takes org.gnome.Shell dbus name15:32
xclaesseso starting gnome-shell in xephyr on the same session won't work15:32
mlankhorsthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/107909615:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 1079096 in xorg-server "Xephyr does not have GLX" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:32
xclaessethat was working on Quantal :/15:32
xclaessemlankhorst, yep that's the one I reported :)15:33
seb128mlankhorst, right, that's the bug xclaesse opened (that got ignored so far)15:33
mlankhorstyeah but its a bug upstream, blergh I'll take al ook at it later, g2g15:34
seb128mlankhorst, thanks15:34
xclaessemlankhorst, thanks :)15:37
pittihey larsu, question for you in https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/python-dbusmock/signal-method-calls/+merge/15337615:55
pittilarsu: so this looks a bit redundant, but if it's useful for you I'm fine with merging it (except one detail, see question)15:58
Sweetsharkchrisccoulson: ping?16:02
Sweetsharkchrisccoulson: could you drop me a hint how firefox organizes its headers and -I paths? do they collect the header at some 'central' include dir, do they sprikle the headers all over the source tree or do they organize in some more local modules or somesuch ...16:04
larsupitti: argh I forgot to remove the log, I used that for debugging16:15
pittilarsu: ok, I thought something like that16:15
pittilarsu: I'm interested in how a signal is easier than GetCalls() or GetMethodCalls()?16:15
larsupitti: I have an API that batches dbus calls and sends them later in an idle. In the test, I have to poll on GetMethodCalls() and that seemed a bit inefficient16:17
larsuhaving a signal and spinning a mainloop for a couple of seconds makes that much easier16:17
larsuI'm not 100% sure yet, wanted to hear your opinion about it16:17
pittilarsu: oh, I'm ok with that, I was just curious16:18
larsucool :)16:18
larsupitti: want me to remove the log or are you removing it on the merge?16:19
pittilarsu: I can remove it during merge, no worries16:20
larsupitti: thanks!16:20
sarnoldwhat's the Quantal way to turn off auto-raise? this doesn't appear to work any more: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences auto-raise false16:23
seb128sarnold, hey, did your systemd review include systemd-services (hostnamed, timedated)?16:24
sarnoldseb128: no16:24
seb128sarnold, hum, k, any reason it didn't? ;-)16:24
seb128sarnold, the MIR was first opened for those16:25
sarnoldseb128: jdstrand asked me to hit logind and skim udevd16:25
seb128ok16:25
seb128jdstrand, do you want the services security team reviewed as well?16:25
jdstrandseb128: only because I didn't notice those16:25
jdstrandseb128: basically, since the codebase is big, we were trying to focus on what you needed16:26
jdstrandseb128: I'm guessing those run as root and process input from users in some way?16:27
seb128jdstrand, yes16:27
seb128https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-service/+bug/115356716:27
ubot2Launchpad bug 1153567 in ubuntu-system-service "[FFE] Use systemd-services rather than ubuntu-system-service systemdcompatibility code" [Low,Triaged]16:27
jdstrandsarnold: sorry, would you mind taking a look at those too? ^16:27
sarnoldjdstrand: sure16:27
jdstrandsarnold: I appreciate it16:27
seb128jdstrand, sarnold: thanks, sorry for the confusion16:27
seb128that MIR scope expended a bit16:28
seb128well, "- in a first step we want systemd-services promoted to replace ubuntu-system-services" was the first item in the rational16:28
sarnoldseb128: np :)16:28
seb128but the discussion got hijacked by the logind one ;-)16:28
seb128mterry, if I understand correctly your comment on the MIR you will ack it once the unit tests are running?16:29
dpmhey desktoppers, I've lost my ability to change workspaces in Raring with Ctrl+Alt+arrows, not sure if an update caused it. Any ideas on what I could look for to try and find out what's going on?16:31
mterryseb128, yeah, or they are shown to be not-usable at all for Ubuntu for some reason.  Just wanted the situation investigated.  pitti says he found out why they aren't working16:33
pittithey depend on /etc/machine-id, I'm filing a bug ATM16:33
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pittihttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6234416:34
ubot2Freedesktop bug 62344 in general "tests depend on /etc/machine-id" [Minor,New]16:34
jdstrandsarnold: erf, there is also this one that makes sense since you are looking at the other bits: 115363316:48
jdstrandbug 115363316:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 1153633 in systemd-shim (Ubuntu) "[MIR] systemd-shim" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115363316:48
sarnoldjdstrand: "erf" indeed :) hehe16:49
jdstrandsarnold: sorry man, this MIR is spinning out a bit16:49
jdstrandhopefully that's 'it'16:49
sarnoldhehe16:50
desrtsarnold: hi16:50
jdstrandsarnold: but think of it this way, at least you aren't do bi-weekly openjdk updates /o\16:50
sarnoldjdstrand: hehe, yes, that thought crossed my mind :D16:50
jdstrand:)16:50
sarnoldhey desrt :)16:51
desrti'm around for any questions :)16:51
desrtand i also appreciate feedback on things that you think i could do to improve security16:51
mterryI'm having this problem with my overlay scrollbars sometimes not showing the clickable thumbbar.  Is that just due to me being on gtk 3.7?18:04
mterry(i.e. are other people seeing that?)18:04
* didrocks waves good evening18:04
didrocksmterry: on the very edge of the screen?18:04
didrocksif your app is maximized?18:04
mterrydidrocks, no, this could be anywhere, not the "pixels on right click behind" issue18:05
didrocksmterry: ok, I tried to link to that one, indeed :)18:05
mterrydidrocks, (is the edge-of-the-screen issue only in gtk 3.7?)18:05
mterryThat's been annoying too18:05
didrocksmterry: the fix is merged18:05
mterryCool18:05
didrocksmterry: just waiting for a release with tests passing ;)18:05
mterrydidrocks, you waved good evening, get out of here18:05
didrocksmterry: or you rerunning at the failure was this morning18:05
mterry:)18:06
didrocksas*18:06
didrocksdue to UTAH18:06
didrocksso either publish tomorrow, either rerun I guess18:06
didrocksand yes, I'm already out18:06
didrocks:-)18:06
* didrocks byes for real now18:06
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cyphermoxkenvandine: what did you need autopilot-qt for? do you need to (build-) depend on it for some package?18:09
cyphermox(i'm writing the FFe, and making sure I don't say things that aren't true)18:10
seb128mterry, I didn't notice issues with the scrollbars (using 3.7 as well), but I'm not a bit scrollbar user (I tend to scroll with the scrolling wheel)18:10
seb128or with keyboard page up/down18:10
mterryseb128, hrm.  try using it a bit more and see if you hit anything18:10
seb128mterry, yeah, I can't make it appear at all on my gedit win atm18:12
mterryseb128, hrm, good that it's not just me then18:13
Laneyseems to wfm on 3.618:14
seb128mterry, yeah, gtk 3.7 issue it seems18:15
seb128mterry, ld_library_path loading 3.6 and it works18:15
seb128it does it every time on that .c I had open in gedit18:15
seb128it shows the thumb on first try18:15
seb128then it stops working18:15
mterryseb128, yes.  I've noticed that it always seems to work at least once.  It seems per-app not per-window18:16
seb128mterry, I'm glad I didn't try to force the new GTK in :p18:16
mterryLaney, good, at least raring is safe18:16
mterryseb128, probably should have asked about this earlier.  :)  I've been seeing this for a while18:17
seb128mterry, going to be fun to track down18:17
seb128I doubt anyone in the GTK world is interested to look at overlay scrollbars18:17
seb128and I doubt anyone in here is interested by looking at overlay scrollbars bugs18:17
seb128mlankhorst, btw, for info, xephyr/glx issue debugged, patch attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/xorg-server/+bug/1079096/comments/618:18
ubot2Launchpad bug 1079096 in xorg-server "Xephyr does not have GLX" [Low,In progress]18:18
seb128mlankhorst, not that I've no clue what I'm doing there, I'm not an xorg hacker, I just copied a commit that fixed a similar issue for vfb :p18:19
mterryseb128, who are our overlay experts?18:26
seb128mterry, I saw you just raised your hand? :p18:27
mterryseb128, oh man18:27
mterryseb128, I'll look into it, no problem, but sounds like this is post raring worry?18:27
seb128mterry, joke aside Cimi did most of the work but I don't think he's interested by maintaining the old stuff he worked on...18:27
seb128you can still ask him18:27
seb128but I guess he will say it's a gtk issue18:27
mterryseb128, we aren't trying to squeeze 3.8 into raring anymore, right?18:28
seb128the other ones who looked at some issues there/helped him are kenvandine and desrt18:28
seb128mterry, I don't plan to, there are still some known bug (like the screenshot one), and there is strong reason to do it18:28
seb128+no18:28
mterryyup  :)18:28
mterryseb128, OK.  I've added it on the bottom of my TODO list, let's see18:29
seb128mterry, thanks18:29
seb128maybe desrt or kenvandine can help having a look18:29
seb128but I guess they are both not so interested and will try to escape it ;-)18:29
kenvandinecyphermox, i want it for testing qml-friends and gwibber18:36
seb128dpm, pitti: we didn't get any langpack upload in raring or am I overlooking something?18:41
seb128is there any planned soon?18:41
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margaLaney, I'd like to get early access to the glib package that you uploaded yesterday.  I tried looking for it in the pool, but apparently it's not yet there, is it accessible somewhere?19:25
seb128marga, what "pool" did you use?19:34
seb128marga, it's in the queue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue?queue_state=119:34
seb128things don't build before they are accepted though19:34
margaseb128, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/19:35
seb128so you need to wait for the SRU team to ack it or build it locally19:35
margaright, I was thinking of building it locally19:35
seb128marga, you have the files links in the queue ui, you can just download those19:35
margagreat, thanks.19:35
seb128queue is the gateway before the archive19:36
seb128so it's normal that things don't land there before being reviewed19:36
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tkamppeterRAOF, hi22:02
RAOFtkamppeter: Hi. Ah, yes, I need to upload that.22:02
tkamppeterRAOF, beta1 is over and GS is waiting for lcms2 ...22:03
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RAOFtkamppeter: Actually, how did you generate the patch on the bug?22:26
RAOFtkamppeter: Because it really seems to have a lot of unrelated changes.22:27
tkamppeterRAOF, I have taken the lcms2-2.4 version which ships with GS 9.07 and diffed it with the lcms2-2.4 version of the .orig.tar.gz of the Ubuntu package.22:42
tkamppeterRAOF, with this patch all the sample PDFs rendered without crash, and also nothing else crashed on the test system.22:43
RAOFtkamppeter: Ah, so it's not in any way intended to be a minimal fix. Ok.22:45
tkamppeterRAOF, it is intended to get the changes made by the GS developers into lcms2, as the upstream patch has failed, probably missing something.22:46

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