| TheLordOfTime | anyone on IRCC able to advise on something? | 17:47 |
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| TheLordOfTime | specifically whether ubuntu release 'lucid' for desktop-related questions will still be supported. | 17:50 |
| * TheLordOfTime is ireceiving conflicting information from someone on the community team at canonical, and what is actually truth on the matter. | 17:51 | |
| holstein | when it goes EOL, theres really not much to say.. i usually just quickly remind someone what EOL means, and briefly how to maintain things themselves, and what the latest LTS is | 17:52 |
| TheLordOfTime | but what does "Desktop Support" actually mean? | 17:52 |
| holstein | TheLordOfTime: i think the kernel will still get updates, for the server.. and other server specific packages | 17:54 |
| Myrtti | afaik everything that is ubuntu-desktop - ubuntu-server isn't supported. | 17:54 |
| holstein | TheLordOfTime: i dont think the repos go down though | 17:54 |
| Myrtti | I doubt the IRCC has a policy on the matter | 17:54 |
| holstein | i thought it was the server that got the 5 years? and the destkop specific stuff was EOL soon | 17:55 |
| holstein | i dont think its a waste of time, or irrelevant in a support channel to state facts about what is EOL, and what is available | 17:55 |
| Myrtti | it's largely a personal preference. Most people suggest upgrading to the next available LTS anyway, irregardless of support windows | 17:56 |
| holstein | i think it could be problematic if someone required or asked for a lot of help supporting something that was broken about the desktop in 12.04.. something that a ppa broke.. or something that just doesnt work a year from now | 17:56 |
| holstein | ^^ in 10.04 | 17:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | that's what i'm trying to figure out. If 10.04 Desktop according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases has a EOL of April, does that mean Lucid becomes offtopic in #ubuntu? | 17:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | but not #ubuntu-server? | 17:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | or to put this in a better way: | 17:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | "Does the cessation of Desktop support for a release automatically dictate that support for the entire release is discontinued on IRC?" | 17:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | with 12.04 i don't have to worry about such trivial crap... since both desktop AND server are 5 yr support | 17:57 |
| Myrtti | my personal line on water has been the aforementioned | 17:58 |
| Myrtti | ie. offtopic for #ubuntu, but not for -server, as long as it really is a server issue. Then again there's the issue of if -server is a support channel or not. | 17:58 |
| holstein | TheLordOfTime: i dont think its OT to say whats going on.. folkd dont understand, and in lots of cases, dont even know what version they are running.. or why | 17:59 |
| hggdh | TheLordOfTime: my take on it is desktop-specific issues get to be off-topic for #ubuntu, but not server packages | 18:58 |
| hggdh | er, server required/available packages. Like openssh-server, ntp, etc | 18:59 |
| hggdh | IIRC, Lucid server is supported until 2015-04 | 18:59 |
| AlanBell | holstein: server and desktop share the same repos, so normally they get moved to oldreleases.ubuntu.com but not until server is EOL | 20:52 |
| AlanBell | even if desktop is EOL the repos have to stay there, there isn't really a separation of server packages and desktop packages | 20:53 |
| * AlanBell has several servers that run headless openoffice.org | 20:53 | |
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