[17:47] <TheLordOfTime> anyone on IRCC able to advise on something?
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> specifically whether ubuntu release 'lucid' for desktop-related questions will still be supported.
[17:51]  * TheLordOfTime is ireceiving conflicting information from someone on the community team at canonical, and what is actually truth on the matter.
[17:52] <holstein> when it goes EOL, theres really not much to say.. i usually just quickly remind someone what EOL means, and briefly how to maintain things themselves, and what the latest LTS is
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> but what does "Desktop Support" actually mean?
[17:54] <holstein> TheLordOfTime: i think the kernel will still get updates, for the server.. and other server specific packages
[17:54] <Myrtti> afaik everything that is ubuntu-desktop - ubuntu-server isn't supported.
[17:54] <holstein> TheLordOfTime: i dont think the repos go down though
[17:54] <Myrtti> I doubt the IRCC has a policy on the matter
[17:55] <holstein> i thought it was the server that got the 5 years? and the destkop specific stuff was EOL soon
[17:55] <holstein> i dont think its a waste of time, or irrelevant in a support channel to state facts about what is EOL, and what is available
[17:56] <Myrtti> it's largely a personal preference. Most people suggest upgrading to the next available LTS anyway, irregardless of support windows
[17:56] <holstein> i think it could be problematic if someone required or asked for a lot of help supporting something that was broken about the desktop in 12.04.. something that a ppa broke.. or something that just doesnt work a year from now
[17:57] <holstein> ^^ in 10.04
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> that's what i'm trying to figure out.  If 10.04 Desktop according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases has a EOL of April, does that mean Lucid becomes offtopic in #ubuntu?
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> but not #ubuntu-server?
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> or to put this in a better way:
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> "Does the cessation of Desktop support for a release automatically dictate that support for the entire release is discontinued on IRC?"
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> with 12.04 i don't have to worry about such trivial crap... since both desktop AND server are 5 yr support
[17:58] <Myrtti> my personal line on water has been the aforementioned
[17:58] <Myrtti> ie. offtopic for #ubuntu, but not for -server, as long as it really is a server issue. Then again there's the issue of if -server is a support channel or not.
[17:59] <holstein> TheLordOfTime: i dont think its OT to say whats going on.. folkd dont understand, and in lots of cases, dont even know what version they are running.. or why
[18:58] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: my take on it is desktop-specific issues get to be off-topic for #ubuntu, but not server packages
[18:59] <hggdh> er, server required/available packages. Like openssh-server, ntp, etc
[18:59] <hggdh> IIRC, Lucid server is supported until 2015-04
[20:52] <AlanBell> holstein: server and desktop share the same repos, so normally they get moved to oldreleases.ubuntu.com but not until server is EOL
[20:53] <AlanBell> even if desktop is EOL the repos have to stay there, there isn't really a separation of server packages and desktop packages
[20:53]  * AlanBell has several servers that run headless openoffice.org