[01:03] <theandromedan> What does one need to do to create a package of non-open source software that will be added to the universe or mulitverse repositories?
[01:04] <micahg> theandromedan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[01:05] <theandromedan> I read that watched the videos.
[01:05] <theandromedan> But there are some things I don't know.
[01:05] <theandromedan> Like can you build a package without a Source section?
[01:06] <theandromedan> Do I need to be a member of MOTU to have a package added?
[01:07] <theandromedan> Remember this is a closed source software.
[01:08] <theandromedan> The only reason I am looking into this is that a customer asked for my to add it as a package to Ubuntu. So I am looking into it.
[01:08] <theandromedan> It is a Java-based program.
[01:08] <theandromedan> So it will run under Ubuntu.
[01:08] <micahg> theandromedan: multiverse or you can talk to Canonical about including in the partner repo
[01:09] <micahg> theandromedan: as long as it's freely redistributable, you can put it in multiverse or Debian/non-free
[01:10] <theandromedan> There is a Debian/non-free?
[01:10] <theandromedan> According to the Wiki anything in the Debian needs to be open source.
[01:10] <micahg> yes, it's not "officially" part of Debian, but it's usually mirrored
[01:10] <theandromedan> Ah.
[01:11] <micahg> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-non-free
[01:14] <theandromedan> Can I create Debian package using Ubuntu?
[01:15] <micahg> sure
[01:19] <theandromedan> Is there an IRC channel for helping with Debian package creation?
[01:20] <theandromedan> Does Ubuntu support the installation of Debian packages?
[01:21] <micahg> #ubuntu-packaging for generic help or here + #debian-mentors on OFTC for stuff that is targeted to the Ubuntu archive (the Debian channel is only for stuff going through Debian AIUI)
[01:25] <theandromedan> ok
[07:43] <dholbach> good morning
[10:50] <Laney> man, tvtime is heavily ubuntu patched
[10:51] <tumbleweed> yeah, I wanted to comment on that
[10:51] <tumbleweed> this stuff belongs upstream
[10:51] <Laney> seems dead
[10:51] <Laney> I'm sure I remember suggesting he takes over / forks before
[10:51] <tumbleweed> yeah, sounds like it's needed
[10:54]  * Laney does so again
[11:11] <dholbach> tumbleweed, Laney: tvtime and gnomeradio AFAIK - our contributor is in touch with the debian maintainer to figure out what the future might be - I suggested forking before already
[11:12] <Laney> ah, gnomeradio rings a bell
[11:12] <Laney> is that the same guy?
[11:12] <dholbach> yes IIRC
[11:13] <Laney> yeah, 'tis
[11:13] <Laney> good, well I'm glad a few of us are on the same page
[11:41] <xnox> Laney: now that google reader is going away i'm potentially switching to gwene.org to do rss archiving, and reading them via nntp with Gnus or with Thunderbird (evaluating)
[11:42] <Laney> gwene?
[11:42] <Laney> never 'eard of it
[11:44] <tumbleweed> RSS -> NNTP. sounds like the future
[11:45] <xnox> Laney: it's what gmane is to mailing lists: archival + interface to read them over nntp/web/blog-like/rss interfaces.
[11:46]  * xnox finds it funny how it offers _full_ archive over rss
[11:47] <Laney> let me know how you get on
[11:47] <Laney> I was pondering looking for a good native client
[11:48]  * tumbleweed is happy with newsblur (non-native)
[11:49] <Laney> yeah, android app would be good
[11:50]  * tumbleweed can't handle using machines without full-size keyboards for anything significant
[11:50] <tumbleweed> I have a newsblur client on my phone, but never ues it
[11:50] <Laney> keyboard for reading?
[11:51] <tumbleweed> :P
[11:51] <tumbleweed> larger screen for reading
[11:51] <tumbleweed> and I skim a lot, so yes, keyboard helps
[11:52] <Laney> 'n' is good, but I can also get used to swiping to skip
[11:52] <Laney> nexus 7 is pretty good for it IME
[12:00] <highvoltage> newsblur does look pretty nice indeed.
[12:01] <Laney> mmm
[12:18] <xnox> "Thanks for all the supportive tweets and emails today. NewsBlur has experienced 15x its normal daily traffic in only 1/4 of a day."
[12:18] <xnox> I guess they need to scale a little, it's a bit slow at the moment.
[13:55] <aboudreault> any debian packager that knows well cmake here?
[13:56] <ScottK> aboudreault: It's better just to ask your question.
[13:56] <aboudreault> kk
[13:57] <aboudreault> I'm creating a package with a cmake build system. I would like to preserve the current natural behavior of CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr (or /usr/local). However, I need a way to place some files in /etc/xxx
[13:58] <aboudreault> using DESTINATION /etc/xxx is not an option since I need things to be in debian/tmp/etc/
[13:58] <aboudreault> any hint?
[14:03] <aboudreault> maybe cmake shouldn't do anything with /etc .. will put that in prefix/share and copy manually I think.