=== Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [02:56] utlemming: hey, you appear to be missing a few test results for the cloud images on iso.qa.ubuntu.com, are you missing some of the regions in your script? [03:45] Riddell, ScottK, zequence, knome, highvoltage, JackYu, utlemming: Sorry, I've been pretty busy with non-beta1 stuff so haven't had a chance to draft the announcement yet. I'll do so tomorrow morning and share it with you. Please make sure to have your links ready by then. It'd also be appreciated if you could get the products you intend to release as Ready on the tracker (or ask me if you can't do it yourself). [04:34] stgraber: got it. [06:49] stgraber: the announcement of ubuntukylin could be set to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin/1304-beta-1-ReleaseNote === tkamppeter__ is now known as tkamppeter [08:12] stgraber: the current edubuntu images look good for beta release, I'm marking as ready === jibel_ is now known as jibel [09:23] hi cjohnston [09:23] contentful pings work better in general :-) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:49] Can I ask: Where is the Ubuntu Studio Beta 1 release notes in? [10:30] And release team: Can the Ubuntu Studio release team remove all the upgrade testcases by this stage? [10:30] First "release team" = The main Ubuntu one [10:38] there is only one release team :) === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch [10:39] tumbleweed, em stgraber helped many flavours set up their own release management teams for their OWN flavours in the ISO QA Tracker:P [10:40] And BTW just asking my original question... === Trevinho_ is now known as Trevinho [10:57] stgraber: you asked for news links, the edubuntu one will be http://www.edubuntu.org/news/13.04-beta1 === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik [11:05] Laney: thanks for the reply on the bug. [11:05] np [11:06] I commented my specific reason for wanting it. :-) [11:16] Laney: looks like that failed-to-boot bug is fixed by pitti. [11:16] yes [11:16] Laney: when will raring-proposed be unblocked? [11:16] Laney: or can we still be respinning? [11:16] some time after the point of no return [11:17] * smartboyhw wonders can he actually remove the upgrades [11:18] the testcases? [11:18] Laney, yep (for Ubuntu Studio) [11:19] Just wondering if it is too late [11:19] why do you need to? [11:20] smartboyhw: All tests are done now [11:20] zequence, the upgrades? [11:20] Wow:) [11:20] smartboyhw: Not the upgrades [11:20] zequence, ah OK [11:21] Laney, um 1. We don't recommend it, 2. Not enough testers (at all times) [11:21] I don't think you need to remove them just because nobody has done them yet [11:21] Laney, well but we don't actually recommend it as we said [11:21] you'll see Lubuntu and Edubuntu are in the same state [11:22] you don't recommend upgrading?! [11:22] Laney, yep [11:22] zequence, am I correct?:P [11:23] We haven't put any time on investigating the problems around upgrading [11:23] yep [11:23] From my personal experience, it's not a flawless experience [11:23] Can't we just remove it for Beta 1 at least? [11:24] So, since we have no data, and no actions against any bugs that might appear, we should not recommend upgrading [11:24] zequence: i think you can just mark image as ready with or without upgrade tests, if you are happy to release that. [11:24] However, for any release after raring, it would be wise to do some research on this [11:24] zequence, I think I am OK marking it ready now:) [11:24] smartboyhw: Yep. Fine by me [11:25] xnox, ACK from zequence + me:) [11:27] OK zequence I marked them as ready now:) [11:28] smartboyhw: ok [11:29] zequence, so do we still want the upgrade testcases for beta 1 ONLY? [11:29] I think we can remove it for now. Perhaps we do have some time to do it before final beta. That might be worth the effort [11:30] zequence, OK:) [11:30] zequence, removed [11:31] IMO it would be a good thing to do for your users, even if just to document the bugs [11:31] you'll not get everyone reinstalling [11:31] Laney, well I think they wouldn't upgrade now anyway:P [11:31] And we can fix it before Beta 2 [11:32] not right now, but in general [11:32] I agree on finding bugs [11:32] is the "auto-resize" option supposed to be dropped? [11:32] or do you need non-ubuntu installation on the disk before the installer suggests that? [11:33] Laney: I updated the diff file of bug #1154999. [11:33] Launchpad bug 1154999 in ubuntukylin-default-settings (Ubuntu) " [FFE] Upgrade to ubuntukylin-default-settings 1.0.2 in Raring " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1154999 [11:33] knome, you mean Ubuntu Studio or? [11:33] i mean generally. [11:33] Um no I think [11:33] * smartboyhw saw it in UbuntuKylin [11:34] knome: auto-resize is only offered in some circumstances, which are a bit complex to fit into an IRC channel [11:34] cjwatson, is there any documentation for it anywhere? [11:34] knome: among other things, the MBR partition table format is sufficiently lame that it's simply not always possible to offer it [11:34] I don't recall [11:34] okay [11:35] The short answer is that it shouldn't be considered a testing bug if you don't get it [11:35] I thought there was something somewhere in the testcase docs but it's been a while ... [11:35] that stops me from running that test then [11:35] Yes, it would [11:35] but i'll make a mental note to not worry about that too much [11:35] But realistically it's probably good enough if it's run on at least one flavour for the relevant ubiquity frontend [11:35] i'll just test other things, like upgrades [11:37] ISO testers tend to run into the limitations more than most - for example they stand a greater chance of already having four primary partitions, or not being able to get an extended partition into the area that would be freed by resize because there's already an extended partition elsewhere and the area in question is separated from it by a primary partition [11:37] MBR constraints are pretty silly [11:37] mhm. [11:42] cjwatson: would you please add '--locale zh_CN' when building UbuntuKylin? [11:45] Not quite that simple - that's an ubuntu-defaults-image option and UbuntuKylin isn't built using ubuntu-defaults-image [11:46] What exact change are you trying to effect? [11:48] after entering the try or install show, the default language is English. we want it be Simplifed Chinese [11:48] stgraber, do you have an estimate of the time you're going to release? [11:48] JackYu: Right, gfxboot default language. Sure, I can do that [11:48] (I thought that was probably it but wanted to confirm) [11:49] good, thanks. [11:54] JackYu_: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/revision/675 [11:54] (uploaded) [11:56] correct [12:48] cjwatson: we reported two FFE bugs to update ubuntukylin-default-settings and ubuntukylin-theme, i.e. bug #1154999, bug #1154988, would you please help to check them? [12:48] Launchpad bug 1154999 in ubuntukylin-default-settings (Ubuntu) " [FFE] Upgrade to ubuntukylin-default-settings 1.0.2 in Raring " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1154999 [12:48] Launchpad bug 1154988 in ubuntukylin-theme (Ubuntu) " [FFE] Upgrade to ubuntukylin-theme 0.4.2 in Raring " [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1154988 [12:53] JackYu: They are both approved. [12:56] ScottK: great, thanks! [13:15] FYI, unblocked muon since the current one is badly broken. Waiting to hear from Riddell to see if we'll respin for it. [13:22] knome: I'm hoping for a release in the next 4 hours or so [13:22] stgraber, ok. i'm just running the upgrade tests. desktop amd64 can be marked ready. [13:23] (i still need to run one little test on i386, will do that once the i386 upgrade tests finishes) [13:26] ScottK: in the middle of an upgrade, should be able to test in a wee bit [13:26] OK. [13:46] stgraber: so aye, we'd like a respin of kubuntu i386 and amd64 when muon 1.9.97 is in the archive [13:53] Riddell: ok [13:58] JackYu: hey, are you expecting to have something to release for beta1 (in around 3 hours)? looking at the tracker, it looks like you haven't got a lot of test results and those you have look pretty bad [14:01] stgraber: we are updating packages. Currently, only one left. [14:01] It was maybe a bit ambitious to do a beta a couple of days after starting daily builds :) [14:02] That's why Ubuntu GNOME didn't join in the fun:) [14:02] JackYu: ok, so you are planning a last minute respin? (note that it takes around 30min to do a rebuild and may take an hour for the bits you need to publish in the archive, so you'd be left with just a bit over an hour to test it all) [14:02] correct:) [14:03] stgraber: yes:) [14:03] stgraber and JackYu: I've also put a transition block on the updated packages you put in an FFe for. If those are needed, they will need an unblock. [14:03] default settins and theme ... [14:05] ScottK: ok, sounds to me like they want those in as the current images don't look too good. Can you remove your block or do you prefer me to add an explicit unblock? [14:05] I'am asking Zhengpeng Hou to upload, and the default-settings in ready. [14:05] stgraber: I put it in your block (for consistency). I can remove it. [14:06] ScottK: ah ok, probably best to keep it there so we have it next time and just add an explicit unblock then [14:06] ScottK: I'll take care of that [14:06] (just noticed ubuntukylin-theme hitting raring-changes) [14:06] OK. [14:07] That's why I added it to your block, so we'd have it in the history to start from. [14:08] JackYu: so what packages do you need updated? (I need to whitelist them) [14:09] stgraber: ubuntukylin-theme ubuntukylin-default-settings, chinese-calenda, just uploaded [14:09] freeflying: ok good, that matches what I saw on -changes, thanks [14:09] stgraber: Zhengpeng just done [14:09] stgraber: np [14:09] JackYu: so should I respin as soon as those 3 are in raring? [14:10] stgraber: yes [14:10] thanks [14:10] it should be ok, since we tested them locally:) [14:11] Riddell: looks like muon has now been published. Triggering a kubuntu desktop respin [14:11] stgraber: groovy [14:11] stgraber: Nice. I was just typing a ping that you could do that. [14:12] Ubuntu Cloud Images are ready to go. [14:14] utlemming: ok. Can you mark them as such? (I "think" you now have the rights) [14:15] stgraber: looks like arosales is still the man for that [14:15] stgraber: would you please give our release team (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntukylin-release-team/) rights on the ISO QA Tracker? [14:16] JackYu: yep, I'll do that in a bit [14:16] utlemming: is this for the release manifest [14:17] utlemming: aren't you in ~cloud-images-release-managers? [14:17] stgraber: yup, I am [14:17] utlemming: if so, you should be able to tick them on the tracker and mark them ready [14:17] arosales: the release manifest has been superseded by new facilities on iso.qa.ubuntu.com, FYI [14:17] utlemming: hmm, or maybe not, let me triple-check the ACLs [14:17] cjohnston: ah, thanks [14:18] utlemming: the ACLs look good, so it should work [14:19] stgraber: I don't see anyway to mark ready. Perhaps I am looking in the wrong spot. [14:20] utlemming: do you see tick boxes on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/261/builds? [14:20] stgraber: negative, I do not. [14:20] utlemming: ah. Try to logout and login, making sure that the cloud-images-release-managers team is selected on the SSO page [14:24] stgraber, xubuntu i386 is ready. [14:26] infinity: i'd appreciate for lvm2 precise SRU to be published, as I have another one comming up. [14:27] stgraber: after logging in an out a couple times, i only see test boxes on the tests. [14:27] infinity: about openssl, it was inconclusive if Rob has any further testing of all and each asm enabled hash algo. [14:28] utlemming: yeah, according to the DB, the tracker didn't receive the team membership from SSO... [14:28] utlemming: what do you see on the SSO page, does it list team membership? [14:29] stgraber: the SSO page didn't ask about membership [14:30] * arosales also doesn't see any checkboxes @ http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/261/builds [14:30] utlemming: can you add the "ubuntuqa" account to the team on LP? that's my test account when debugging that kind of weirdness [14:31] stgraber: done. login/logout yields same results [14:33] utlemming: ok, I'll test in a sec [14:34] Riddell, ScottK: there you go ^ [14:34] stgraber, xubuntu i386 upgrades are ready. [14:34] stgraber: Thanks. [14:37] stgraber: is the rights of ubuntukylin-release-team set? [14:37] JackYu: no [14:38] I see:) [14:39] stgraber: all packages are ready, would you please rebuild ubuntukylin? === medberry is now known as med_ [14:40] JackYu: they're not ready [14:40] JackYu: they've been uploaded but they aren't done building and publishing [14:40] JackYu: I expect them to be in 30min or so [14:41] oh, i see [14:45] hi all, 我要回家去了，到家后上线，路上大概二十分钟，如果这期间stgraber有问题，先帮我回答一下 [14:45] * Laney blinks [14:45] JackYu: wrong channel ... [14:45] sorry, wrong channel [14:46] :( [14:47] utlemming: ok, it's going to take me a little while to figure out what's going on. I'll just mark your products as ready for now ;) [14:47] stgraber: ack and thank you [14:48] utlemming: my guess is that there's some kind of limit in the number of team membership we can retrieve from LP and as the tracker is asking for a dozen or so, we may be hitting that limit === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [15:13] stgraber, xubuntu amd64 upgrades are done. and you probably want to look at bug 1155167 [15:13] Launchpad bug 1155167 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from image prompts creating a new user" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1155167 [15:14] knome: do you know where you'll be posting the beta1 announcement? [15:15] Riddell, ScottK, zequence, utlemming: you too ^ (I only have the URLs for edubuntu and kylin at the moment) [15:15] stgraber, i'll get that to you in the next 15 minutes (i'll need to write one first) [15:15] knome: ok [15:16] stgraber: B1 annoucnements for cloud images will not be happen. They are silent releases as a data-point for reference. [15:16] utlemming: ok [15:16] stgraber, I will try to draft up one... [15:17] zequence is bb for a couple of hours [15:17] stgraber: we prepare a simple notes for ubuntukylin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin/1304-beta-1-ReleaseNote [15:18] stgraber: voila https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RaringRingtail/Beta1/Kubuntu [15:19] Riddell: thanks [15:19] stgraber, release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/Beta1/UbuntuStudio Annoucement: http://ubuntustudio.org/2013/03/ubuntu-studio-13-04-beta-1-released/ [15:19] stgraber: I mis-spoke. I'll get the URL for you shortly [15:19] utlemming: ok [15:19] smartboyhw: thanks [15:21] Sigh. [15:21] I guess when we said we were going to be strict about FFe approval because we moved feature freeze later, no one really believed us. [15:22] The message will get through [15:22] the excuses have been amusing [15:23] apparently 2 days of vUDS delayed everyone by a week [15:23] yeah, I'm really annoyed by it... we warned them and we moved the FF to allow for more dev time, so allowing any big feature to land now is more dangerous than ever... [15:23] tumbleweed: or more, look at the Unity one, it's a whole month for them :) [15:23] Personally, it appears to me that everyone assumed Rick's proposal would be approved and started operating to it. [15:23] stgraber: yeah. and of course they should have been aiming for 2 weeks before FF anyway :P [15:28] stgraber, will there some other url or is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20130311.1/ the "official" beta link? [15:28] cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/13.04/beta-1 I think [15:28] right, after publishing the images will be under releases/13.04/... [15:28] ok! :) [15:29] knome: yes, never permanently link to .../daily-live/DATE/, they get removed after a few days! [15:29] cjwatson, yeah, sure. thanks :) [15:30] do we have anyone from Lubuntu around here? [15:30] stgraber, Lubuntu -> phillw [15:30] phillw: hey, do you have an URL to the beta1 announcement for Lubuntu? [15:31] phillw: also, do you have any product that should be marked as ready for release now? [15:31] phillw, you do know that Beta 1 is to be released in 1.5 HOURS not 24!? [15:32] stgraber: soz, been afk. [15:32] I thought deadline was tomorrow. let me have a look [15:33] ??? we've always been releasing on Thursday [15:33] ... [15:33] did "Status tracked in Raring" go away? [15:34] stgraber: just me having a 'blonde' moment... My days are a bit messed up this week :D [15:34] phillw: Thursday UTC time has always been the case. As releasing on Friday is impractical as it's the weekend for many people on the east side towards datetime line. [15:34] phillw, now you really need testers:P [15:35] smartboyhw, you should consider NOT crossposting the "we need testers!" thing across multiple channels [15:37] stgraber: I'm happy with: Alternate AMD64, Alternate i386, Desktop AMD64, Desktop PPC [15:37] the others can stay as daily spin (i.e. no beta 1 release). [15:38] stgraber, xubuntu b1 release annoucement will be at http://xubuntu.org/news/raring-beta1 [15:38] stgraber, will there be a "general" wiki page as usually? [15:38] TheLordOfTime, the one in this channel is targetted "only" to phillw [15:38] That one is to everyone [15:39] knome: I don't think we had a general wiki page for the past two opt-in milestones so I'm not planning on making one. [15:39] stgraber: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/Beta1/UbuntuCloudImages [15:40] knome: I'll prepare a standard announcement and have it go to the usual mailing-lists, get it picked up on fridge/planet ubuntu and release blog [15:40] stgraber, ok, thanks fine :) just checking if i need to point to some place [15:40] utlemming: thanks [15:41] who marked Kylin ready? [15:41] stgraber, that's the question... [15:41] because it clearly isn't, they haven't got the respin yet [15:41] I and JackYu are mystified [15:42] balloons: why did you mark UbuntuKylin as ready? [15:42] balloons, ..... [15:42] * stgraber marks them for respin [15:42] yes, we need the respin:) [15:43] yeah, waiting for your new packages to get copied, that should happen this publisher run, then they should be ready in the next, then we can respin [15:44] hmm, hold on, there's something weird going on with britney [15:44] oh? [15:44] uh oh [15:44] cjwatson: the report was last updated at 14:06 [15:44] one moment [15:45] stgraber: you need versions on your unblocks [15:46] its failure mode is entertainingly terrible if you forget those [15:46] oops, fixing... [15:47] oh... [15:47] tell me when and I'll rerun manually [15:47] fixed [15:47] running [15:48] logs are in lillypilly:~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/log/ for the record [15:48] I should get round to making those web-accessible too [15:49] cjwatson: ah, good to know. I should have looked at the timestamp earlier and notice that I messed up something in my hints [15:50] stgraber: all three copied; you just need to wait for the publisher now [15:50] cjwatson: perfect, thanks [15:50] JackYu: I'll trigger your rebuild in the next 30min (as soon as the publisher is done) [15:51] sure, thank you. We're waiting for it. [15:59] stgraber, when you release, will you also ping pleia2? thanks. [16:00] stgraber, i got to run now. thanks for everything! :) [16:00] knome: ok, will do. bye [16:10] stgraber: seems all 3 packages are ready [16:11] no [16:11] they've been copied but not published yet [16:11] should happen any minute though [16:12] i see [16:14] BTW, could you set our release team the rights:) [16:14] it takes time and I'm busy trying to get this thing out, so not now [16:15] sure, it's ok [16:17] ScottK, Riddell, highvoltage, phillw, zequence, knome, pleia2, JackYu, utlemming: Draft of the announcement: http://pad.ubuntu.com/raring-beta1-announcement [16:23] stgraber: I marked on it a bit. Seems good. [16:24] stgraber: what will the URL for that be? [16:24] (would like to link to it) [16:27] highvoltage: some URL under lists.ubuntu.com. That's an e-mail announcement [16:27] ok [16:28] stgraber: are you also taking care of moving the cd image to the right place on the cdimage host? [16:29] stgraber: it's pretty. thank you. === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [16:29] stgraber: Looks good to me, thanks [16:30] highvoltage: yep, once kylin has been respun, tested and is ready to get published [16:32] it's ready! [16:32] JackYu: respin in progress for kylin [16:32] nice [16:34] Riddell: ^5 [16:36] stgraber: I have only just started on a draft for lubuntu beta 1, it will be completed today if you want me to add the link into the etherpad and mark the page up as 'Still in Progress'? [16:40] Riddell: you can mark our upgrades as ready too if it matters [16:42] stgraber: thanks, just made a tiny edit to xubuntu url [16:43] JackYu: the build failed [16:44] oops, no it was correct [16:44] * pleia2 coffee now [16:45] oh, may i take a look the log? [16:46] P: Begin executing hooks... [16:46] ./config/hooks/100-default-language.binary: 3: ./config/hooks/100-default-language.binary: cannot create binary/isolinux/lang: Directory nonexistent [16:46] E: config/hooks/100-default-language.binary failed (exit non-zero). You should check for errors. [16:46] P: Begin unmounting filesystems... [16:47] sounds like https://launchpadlibrarian.net/134156070/livecd-rootfs_2.112_2.113.diff.gz [16:48] yep [16:48] apparently we are missing livecd-rootfs in the block list... [16:48] cjwatson: ^ [16:51] yes, if that's the problem, please remove it. [16:52] stgraber: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview - skeleton draft [16:52] JackYu: removing it isn't the answer - I'll fix it [16:53] (unless you think having no build script is better!) [16:53] nice, thanks:) [16:53] JackYu: how long will it take you to test the images once you have them? [16:53] hmm - of course I will have to *revert* that because I was stupid. this should never have been done in livecd-rootfs in the first place [16:53] ten minutes [16:54] belongs in cdimage/debian-cd [16:55] * cjwatson <- idiot [16:55] JackYu: ok. I'll wait till 19:00 UTC then release whatever is ready at the time. I'm not willing to delay beta1 any more than that. [16:55] stgraber: OK [16:56] * ogra_ points cjwatson to the code of conduct ... we dont call people idiots in here [16:56] :) [16:56] ScottK: heh, I also don't think it's very polite to change a bug status if you're not a release manager on a release bug [16:57] cjwatson: thanks. [16:58] yofel: oops I removed them instead, la la [16:58] Riddell: I'll fix that [16:59] ogra_: if I'm offended I shall complain about myself :) [16:59] cjwatson: is the build restarted? [17:00] JackYu: it'll take an hour or so [17:00] oh... [17:00] as cjwatson needs to revert the change in livecd-rootfs, upload it, wait for it to build, get copied, published, ... then do the change in debian-cd, push that to nusakan and finally respin [17:01] I've done all my side of it now [17:01] But indeed it needs to build/publish/copy/publish [17:02] ou, huge work, thanks a lot:) [17:04] so maclin and I may sleep a while. it's 1am here but we are excited for our beta-1. [17:07] cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614141/ (not quite worth a MP) [17:08] JackYu: well, you can sleep for an hour or so if you want, but after that you'll have to start testing ;) [17:08] |-gnome? [17:08] stgraber: committed, thanks [17:08] and Laney is right, I'll take care of that [17:09] it's fine. i will wait here [17:09] space gnome in this case I think since it's for the iso tracker [17:09] yeah, I think it'll be " gnome" on the tracker [17:09] done [17:10] ah [17:12] we really need some automation for the milestone archiving part of the process :) [17:13] * stgraber disables sync-mirrors on nusakan and starts the archival of previous milestones [17:15] cjwatson: hmm, my memory is failing me here. Do we archive the old alphas or just wipe them from disk? [17:18] archive [17:18] /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/old-images IIRC [17:19] cjwatson: ah yeah, here they are (I was looking for the raring alpha-1 images in www/ but forgot that we move them to the tape backup and not to something publicly visible) [17:19] alright, starting to move things around then [17:32] * xnox looks at libnih migrating into raring-release, while the rest of $base stuff seems to be under a block [17:32] yeah, it was missing in the blocks [17:34] xnox: lvm2> done [17:34] cjwatson: thanks. I shall have my hwe lvm2 upload soonish =) [17:34] I added livecd-rootfs and libnih in the blocks. I'll push the change once livecd-rootfs is done migrating [17:36] cjwatson: can you please _reject_ this one https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=lvm2 ? i'll be uploading a different one shortly. [17:37] xnox: ok, done [17:37] thanks. [17:41] highvoltage: I think it was just a misunderstanding. [17:44] hi, would someone on the sru team please take a look at bug 445872 [17:44] Launchpad bug 445872 in OEM Priority Project precise "disable-disconnect-notification option ignored" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445872 [17:45] it was blocked by the update to 780602 forever and so users have been waiting a long time for the fix [17:53] * xnox is not happy =( [17:54] * ogra_ comforts xnox [17:55] * Laney hugs xnox [17:55] there, there [17:55] * xnox was hoping for Laney to hand out an FFe [17:56] we did say at UDS ... [17:57] Laney: i do want to merge the code with feature turned off though, to avoid bit rot. [17:59] can't you branch for raring and continue developing on trunk? [18:00] it's a non-lts, we only branch out lts for ubiquity as those are the only onces that get updates for point releases. [18:00] cjwatson: how long left? [18:01] Laney: we preffer the trunk to stay for current dev release / bugfixes for release. [18:01] JackYu: I should be able to start the respin in the next 30min (waiting for last publisher run) [18:02] ok [18:02] stgraber: I might disappear soon but most things are pretty much sorted out afaict, if I'm away and you publish on the website, remember to check the timestamp, I think sometimes it doesn't get updated then edubuntu shows up way last on planet :) [18:02] highvoltage: yeah, I usually wipe the date field which resets it to posting time [18:03] highvoltage, what's wrong with being the last? :) [18:03] highvoltage: I'm still planning to release in an hour, I have everything good to go here, just waiting for Kylin [18:04] JackYu: please coordinate with stgraber rather than me, since he's running this beta and I'm about to finish for the day [18:04] sorry for that:) [18:04] JackYu: meh, it was my fault ... [18:07] knome: well, we like being /first/ on planet for releases, but when we do it's not nice that it's already 20 posts behind :) [18:07] sure. [18:08] * knome sets the publish time very much later than edubuntu's ;) [18:09] that's cheating! === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [18:29] JackYu: rebuild started [18:29] how long it takes? [18:31] JackYu: 15min is my guess [18:32] sure:) [18:32] maybe 20, not sure as the last one failed I didn't get the exact timing [18:32] More like 15 I think [18:33] ok. hope in 15 min [18:41] * infinity tries to sort out what our rationale was for having Beta1 and Beta2 be only two weeks apart, and curses this messing with his need to book a vacation between not and the end of March. [18:41] s/not/now/ [18:44] hrrmmm, I thought there had been discussion about fixing that spacing [18:45] did that not get acted on? [18:45] I thought so too. [18:45] Was that in email? [18:45] maybe? [18:46] wasn't on the release list [18:46] yeah, it wasn't [18:46] Message-ID: [18:46] Pete said he'd fix it and forgot. I'll just do that now. :P [18:46] ScottK had emailed me about it and I forwarded it on to pgraner [18:46] * jokerdino waves to infinity. :> [18:46] consensus was that there was no good reason for the current spacing [18:48] great! [18:49] slangasek: That look more like what we discussed? [18:49] JackYu: ^ I'll extend what I said earlier and will wait till 19:30, so that leaves you 40min to test it all and get back to me [18:49] slangasek: Of course, that bumps into the part where many people are away over a 4-day long weekend leading up to that, but meh. [18:49] (me included) [18:49] infinity: ScottK had proposed final beta "two weeks before release"; three weeks is also ok by me; 4 weeks is definitely too long [18:50]