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dfriesA question on the power consumption.  can `adb root` `adb shell reboot -p` be run from the device, or is that only from a connected system?  If it isn't shut off (for the Nexus 10), would it drain in a day, a week?00:01
rsalvetidfries: you can shutdown the device by holding the power button for a few seconds as well00:04
dfriesrsalveti: Hum, the release notes say others wise, "Currently the devices can not be shutdown from within the UI or by pressing the power button. Even if you use the power button long press your battery will be drained."00:05
rsalvetihm, that was fixed, need to change the release notes00:05
rsalvetidfries: just updated the release notes00:07
dfriesGreat, thanks.  The other question I had was the "is released for free non-commercial use", intended for don't release products until the final hardware/software comes out, or don't do internal development?00:08
rsalvetifor commercial use (regarding the ubuntu trademark), I'd say you need to contact canonical first (http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy)00:10
rsalvetithe software is open source, it's just regarding the ubuntu trademark00:11
ogra_rsalveti, https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/session-manager/samsung-gt-i9100/+merge/153263 ... one for you :)00:11
dfriesrsalveti: That makes sense, thanks.00:12
rsalvetiogra_: cool, waiting it to be updated00:12
ogra_heh, i was to fast, sorry00:13
ali1234ah, yes, /sdcard mounted in recovery00:13
ali1234but why not in general use?00:14
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ogra_bah, i messed up whitespace in the last line of the MP00:17
rsalvetiogra_: your email is wrong as well00:18
* ogra_ needs to fix his .vimrc one day ... someone once talked me into making it perfect for python ... since then my tabs are always messed up in shell00:18
ogra_lol, yeah00:18
ogra_havent set DEBEMAIL here00:18
* ogra_ fixes00:18
ogra_rsalveti, fixed00:22
rsalvetiogra_: approved00:27
ogra_yay, thanks00:27
ogra_that stuff gets autobuilt, right ?00:28
rsalvetiogra_: yup, should be available at the ppa in a few00:28
ogra_k, just wanted to know if that was all action to take :)00:28
rsalvetiyeah, now we just wait00:28
* ogra_ starts to like that autobuild stuff :)00:28
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ali1234so why is phablet still building 10.1-20130222-UNOFFICIAL-galaxysmtd00:44
ali1234why is the date not today?00:44
ali1234does this matter?00:44
rsalvetiguess when doing incremental it doesn't change the date00:48
rsalvetidoesn't matter much00:48
gearheadhey guys,I'm looking for a bit of info00:52
ali1234how do i find the latest daily rootfs?00:52
ali1234phablet-flash -l?00:52
gearheadIt would seem the daily builds are not where they were. Terminal is yelling me Jeremy's format has changed00:53
ali1234jenkins00:53
ali1234and yeah, that's being fixed00:53
gearheadsorry,Jenkins00:53
ali1234as in leeroy i guess00:54
gearheadThanks,thought maybe i needed to be directed elsewhere00:54
rsalvetithat's fixed by https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/phablet-tools/fixing_build_id_stamp_release_0.7/+merge/15318600:58
rsalvetiwaiting for it to land00:59
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dharbergoog evening folks any reason Ubuntu 12.10 cannot adb with terminal session with VZW Galexy Nexus02:02
dharberIt can connect with MTP02:02
claptopwouldnt it be feasible/sensible to use vector graphics for everything that way you can scale up to the tv with less changes being made02:08
dharberI found the problem android tools failed to download re-ran update and it is good thanks02:11
howcozaGood morning02:12
Mourouganhi Friends.... I'm trying to flash ubuntu touch into my Nexus 10... as a first step I tried the first step ie., unlocking my device using "sudo fastboot oem unlock"02:17
Mourouganafter unlock... when I reboot the device after unlock, it does not booting with Android... just keep on showing google logo and then the X logo02:18
Mourougananybody out there can help me on this?02:19
bitplaneooh lots of people in here!02:19
bitplaneDoes this thing run in the Android emulator yet?02:20
RobbyFnope02:20
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bitplaneAny QEMU support at all?02:21
bitplaneor do I need to play with it on a real device02:21
ali1234real device for now i think02:22
LordShadowWingHello02:22
howcozaDoes anyone have any instructions I could follow to install the ubuntu phone os on to my HTC desire?02:22
bitplaneaw that sucks. oh well02:22
LordShadowWingdoes the OS have access to mobile data yet?02:22
RobbyFLordShadowWing, not yet.02:22
LordShadowWingand is the music player functional?02:22
RobbyFit might be. I'm not sure though.02:23
RobbyFI havn't installed it yet.02:23
LordShadowWingAll i need is the music player, search and terminal access to make it my daily driver02:23
RobbyFno search or term or music or data.02:24
Mourouganhello02:24
LordShadowWingblast.02:24
RobbyFHow ever it looks like some of those apps will be ready for quality testing really soon.02:24
RobbyFas in days02:24
RobbyFFrom what I gather.02:24
bitplaneIMO the most interesting thing about this OS idea is that we can have desktop OS over one of those USB -> HDMI converters02:24
LordShadowWingThat is quite awesome02:24
MourouganI'm facing issue in flashing ubuntu touch on my nexus 1002:24
LordShadowWingare you running the ubuntu desktop OS02:25
RobbyFIam02:25
ali1234bitplane: that doesn't work yet either02:25
LordShadowWingshould be simple02:26
bitplanehow does the whole thing work? is it a bunch of services and a window manager with its own APIs for touch applications?02:26
ali1234whole thing?02:26
bitplaneI mean, is it just a normal GNU/Linux install with a different login screen02:27
Mourouganyes i'm running on ubuntu desktop os02:27
ali1234the whole thing works by being a QML UI on top of Qt on top of surface flinger, running in a full ubuntu chroot which runs on top of a cut down android base02:27
LordShadowWinginteresting02:27
bitplaneah cool thanks02:27
ali1234the HDMI full desktop thingy works by running full ubuntu in a virtual machine with an IPC for stuff like SMS and phone02:28
ali1234but that isn't available in current builds02:28
bitplaneSo it's going to use Android's drivers and stuff for phone, SMS etc?02:28
LordShadowWingthey should be out of alpha stage within 4-6 months02:29
ali1234yeah basically that is the idea02:29
LordShadowWingby the time its beta it will be near completion02:29
bitplaneso do modern ARM phone CPUs support virtualization, and the Linux kernel?02:30
bitplaneor are we talking battery-burning ugliness here?02:30
ali1234some of them do02:31
Mourougananybody can help me?02:31
ali1234you've seen motorola atrix right? it works the same way02:31
ali1234it even uses ubuntu with the name scratched off02:31
bitplaneoh nice02:32
bitplanedidn't know that02:32
LordShadowWingmourougan: do you have teamviewer for linux installed02:32
LordShadowWinghttp://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx02:32
Mourouganno ... lord02:32
LordShadowWingit is free02:32
bitplanegratis or free?02:33
LordShadowWingclosed source, but free as in free beer02:33
Mourougangreat installing02:33
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bitplaneThe more I think about this whole thing the more I think Windows 8 has a huge head start02:34
LordShadowWinglet me know when you have teamviewer installeb mouro02:35
bitplaneThe main advantage for Ubuntu being that they don't need a crummy cut-down version for the desktop OS02:35
Mourougansure Lord.. thanks02:35
bitplaneand all previous apps will work02:35
ali1234nope02:38
lintonI'm downloading the image now, but I can't wait to find out: can you install regular linux applications on Ubuntu Touch?02:39
ali1234yeah but most of them won't work02:39
ali1234and the ones that do you will have to ssh into phone to run them02:39
linton:(02:40
RobbyFali1234, even the daily's?02:40
bitplaneI guess there's no freedesktop-wide advice for multiple screens then?02:41
bitplaneI mean multiple screens for different purposes, like a handheld screen, a computer screen, a fixed device display, a television etc02:42
bitplane'cause if there were you'd expect apps to be able to write a different UI to each one.. you media player would display controls on your handheld while it plays video to your TV and a "do not disturb" on your door02:44
LordShadowWingmouro, hows it coming?02:46
RobbyFJenkins data format has changed, incompatible ?02:50
ali1234RobbyF: wait for new phablet-tools package02:55
mourouganhi Lord02:57
lintonI'm not very knowledgable about linux commands.  I did "phablet-flash -b".  It downloaded ok, but is hanging at the step where it pushes Ubuntu Touch to the tablet.  Any ideas?02:58
mourouganwhich tablet you are using linton?02:58
lintonNexus 10.02:58
mourougancool... even I using my nexus 10... but it doesn't boot after I unlock the device02:59
mourouganstuck at the nexus logo02:59
mourouganhow did you pass through this stage... have you faced same issue?02:59
lintonI had that happen, too. I re-installed a fresh copy of Android and re-started the instructions and it worked.03:00
mourougancool.... then let me try that option... great03:00
lintonJust curious, did you have Android encryption turned on?  I did and I thought maybe that had something to do with the problem.03:01
mourougani don't think i turned on encryption03:01
mourouganno i didn't03:02
lintonIt was just a hunch.  Well, at least we got your installation to the next step (if your result is the same as mine).03:03
mourouganhmmm... let me start my part first... hope somebody will have solution for your issue rite now...03:05
lintonOnly solution I've found so far is that there isn't a problem, but that it just takes a long time for that 500M file to copy.  I'll just leave it alone for awhile.03:06
rmj250Hi just tried to update with phablet-flash -l and get this error now "Jenkins data format has changed, incompatible" anyone know why?03:12
RobbyFback end issue it looks I think03:14
RobbyFupdate coming soon.03:14
RobbyFnot sure when.03:14
rmj250ok thx03:15
rmj250Don't suppose anyone knows when a version without all the fake data in it is coming?03:15
krabadorwhere it's possible to look ubuntu touch changelog?03:32
lintonkrabador, I can't find any changelog available to the public03:47
krabadorok, nothing it's planned for thw wiki page?03:51
mourougancool.... successfully flashed my Nexus 10 with Ubuntu touch developer preview....05:51
traxmacfor the changelog check http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-ubuntu_stamp06:05
eudoxoshi, how  can I use dash on the tablet to run app by name? E.g. terminal which I installed over ssh and apt-get?06:36
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dpmgood morning mmrazik, when you've got a minute, do you think you could help me answering this question from the core apps mailing list? -> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-coreapps/msg00116.html07:16
mmrazikdpm: mhm... looking. there might be a bug somewhere07:17
dpmthanks :)07:18
mmrazikdpm: oh...  I see the problem07:19
mmrazikdpm: they commit to trunk directly07:19
mmrazikso jenkins is not involved in the merging -> doesn't do dput07:19
mmraziklet me answer on the mailing list07:20
dpmmmrazik, ah, I see. Thanks, that'd be really helpful, yes.07:20
mmrazikdpm: mhm... I'm not on the list. I'll subscribe but can you please fwd the mail to me?07:21
dpmmmrazik, sure. Done07:23
dpmhi Mirv, and here's one for you: do you think you could answer this one? -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/267353/problem-with-qtchooser07:27
ImaCookieDogHello everyone!07:42
dholbachgood morning07:45
ImaCookieDogI would like to talk about Ubuntu os07:46
ImaCookieDogfor mobile07:46
ImaCookieDogIs there any ports for Samsung i9001?07:46
Mirvdpm: answered?07:50
Mirv-? :)07:50
dpmthanks Mirv!07:52
Mirvno problem07:53
derpis there a way to install the touch interface on an atom tablet?08:00
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dlanhi, how to roll back to android image?08:48
dlanI can't find flash-all.sh08:49
avi4love99hi all can i get ubuntu touch on note n700008:49
dlanhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess#Restoring_Android08:49
dlanavi4love99: seems semeone working on that..08:50
dlanhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices08:50
dlanhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/n700008:50
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Laneywhere should I reassign Ubuntu touch bugs that make it to Ubuntu packages?11:48
Cyrildz_Akhhello all11:53
ogra_Laney, to the respective package once it went into the archive11:53
ogra_up until it enters, use the url from the topic11:54
Laneyah yes, was off the end11:54
Laneyty11:54
Cyrildz_AkhI'm facing some issues with the news builds( from yesterday and later). when trying to flash the phone the last build, the phone could not boot. do you guys have notice this issue ?11:55
Cyrildz_AkhI'm back on stock rom now11:55
dank101i do11:56
dank101lots of people do11:57
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ogra_on a supported device ?12:03
Cyrildz_AkhI'm on the Razr XT910, the port was done from some guy from XDA12:05
dun1982Ok, what would be a good place to start looking on solving two issues in smdk4210 chipset tablet? 1st issue is network not working (so apt-get etc.. not working :) and the 2nd issue is no working displaydrivers? 3rd minor one is that boot.img made with Ubuntu-touch repository cannot be extracted by my device while booting (this can be fixed manually by hand...)12:06
ogra_does he regulary re-spin the image and make sure to pick up the bzr changes in the tree ?12:06
rferrazzmhall119: today i've proposed a branch for merging within ubuntu-calculator-app and i've noticed that jenkins is not appeared on the reviewers list12:06
ogra_libhybris and the ubuntu api stuff needs to be upgraded alongside the phablet.zip changes regulary12:07
ogra_so make sure your $device.zip actually contains up to date copies12:08
Cyrildz_Akhorga_: No, the link in the wiki point to the last new build12:08
Cyrildz_Akhogra_: yesterday I tried with all the recent builds and could not boot after falshing the phone12:10
ogra_Cyrildz_Akh, there were quite a few changes to the platform-api tree in the device repo, make sure the person maintaining your device port pulls them and re-spins the device images12:14
ogra_*device porter12:15
P3T3Hi friends, I am not able to execute anything from /data/ubuntu/usr/bin/ directory Always I get No such file or directory12:18
ogra_you need to do it from the container, not from android12:18
ogra_(see the release notes ...)12:19
P3T3ogra_, oh I see, but I a have problems with chroot12:19
ogra_whats the error ?12:19
P3T3root@android:/ # ubuntu_chroot shell => chroot: can't execute '/bin/bash': No such file or directory12:20
ogra_looks like you dont have the phablet.zip installed or the unpacking failed12:21
P3T3I have it installed, if you mean quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip12:22
ogra_(it installs the stuff in /data/ubuntu ... if /data was to full when extracting or not mounted or so you can get such issues)12:22
P3T3can you give me size of this image after unpacking?12:22
ogra_1-2G12:23
P3T3my df reports : /data  1.2G   708.9M   487.2M   204812:24
P3T3it means 708M used, 487M free12:24
ogra_and your port has a properly modified fstab ?12:24
ogra_700M is definitely not right12:24
ogra_root@localhost:/# du -hcs /data/ubuntu/12:25
ogra_1,2G/data/ubuntu/12:25
ogra_(but you want some wiggle room, so make sure to have ~2G)12:25
P3T3so it is time to modify my partitions12:27
ogra_also check twice that you dont have nosuid in the fstab for /data12:28
ogra_(see the porting guide)12:28
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P3T3ogra_, I have checked again: /dev/block/mmcblk0p6/dataext4rw,noatime,nodev,barrier=1,discard,noauto_da_alloc,journal_async_commitwait,check12:37
P3T3it looks OK12:37
ogra_yep12:37
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HEfOPMATHi, I'm the owner of ACER W700, on a  platform x 86,  INTEL i3 processor, video INTEL HD 3000, screen resolution 1080p. Can I install the distro on it? Where can i get it?12:54
ogra_ubuntuu touch isnt available for x86 yet12:54
ogra_it iis android based and someone needs to port x86 support to cyanogenmod 10.1 first12:55
HEfOPMATI installed Ubuntu Desktop, it works but it is inconvenient. Is it possible to install only GUI12:57
ogra_not yet12:58
ogra_packages are slowly moving into raring ... but i wouldnt expect the complete set before may/june12:59
HEfOPMATOn the main site, indicate compatibility with x86. Planning a version with support for the x86 platform, or the entire project only for ARM?13:02
dun1982I would quess that once we get kernel support up and running for ubuntu-touch, it will work also with x86.13:04
dun1982Ie. in that platform you have a very good app ecosystem already.13:04
dun1982And I would imagine that is the whole point in the ubuntu-touch to get arm phones/tables to work with ubuntu ecosystem :)13:05
ogra_yes13:07
ogra_well, i'm tasked with creating an x86 port that runs in qemu so people can emulate a device ....13:08
ogra_not sure if that will be able to run on actual HW in the end though13:08
HEfOPMATI agree with this, the problem is to set up the tablet to a comfortable work, after installation, I have not got. Maybe there is some way to get similar functionality?13:09
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mmrazikjhodapp: I assume qtvideo-node is not even supposed to build on i386 ?14:11
mmrazikhttps://code.launchpad.net/~jhodapp/qtvideo-node/multithreaded-rendering/+merge/15297514:12
jhodappmmrazik, yeah, that's right...it shouldn't be built for i38614:12
ogra_we will need it though14:12
mmrazikjhodapp: ok. let me fix that14:12
ogra_thanks :)14:12
jhodappmmrazik, thanks14:12
mmrazikogra_: I mean the job -- not to build on i38614:12
* mmrazik is not too keen to fix the package14:12
ogra_mmrazik, well, the emulator will be x86 qemu ...14:13
ogra_so all packages should also be built for x8614:13
mmrazikogra_: sure... but I can't really fix all packages14:13
ogra_(not to mention that its a req. for entering the ubuntu archive)14:13
Knight_I intent to install touch on TF101 Eeepad Asus, it's needed to be rooted?14:22
Knight_hi14:25
dun1982Knight_: Check if there is a root available.14:33
dun1982After that chekck if there are CM-10.1 repos availble for kernel and device configure (otherwise you need to make those yourself, something that I had to cook up with gt-p6800).14:34
dun1982In that way it would be also good idea to contribute to community behind ubuntu-touch, wink wink :)14:34
dholbachrsalveti, heya - how are the changelog bits and pieces coming together? O:-)14:34
rsalvetidholbach: yup, got it working yesterday, will finish it up today14:35
dun1982Knight_: Here is the list of wip (work-in-progress, somehow working, working and supported) device list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices14:35
rsalvetishould have more news later in the day14:35
dholbachrsalveti, awesome - how is it going to look then?14:36
dun1982Knight_: And yes, you even might need to do repartition (which means that you will essentially format and repartition all the information stored to your device).14:36
rsalvetidholbach: added/removed packages and for changed packages the name + latest debian changelog14:36
rsalvetiwhich is very human readable14:36
dholbachrsalveti, that's great - and that's for every daily build compared to the last one?14:37
dun1982Knight_: Seems that there is already https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/tf101 page set-up for tft101.14:37
rsalvetidholbach: yeah14:38
ogra_rsalveti, so that checking of /proc/cpuinfo for the Hardware value will bite us soon, i wonder if we shouldnt add something to the android side that does something like "getprop ro.product.device >/data/ubuntu/etc/device" on boot to read that14:41
ogra_(to set the display values we need in ubuntu-session)14:41
rsalvetiogra_: we could try to get it from properties indeed14:42
rsalvetiogra_: in case we have devices sharing the same soc and cpuid14:42
ogra_indont see anything else in proc or sysfs14:42
rsalvetiI know that the cpu id from proc is not used at all currently14:43
ogra_yeah, my patch might break other samsung devices, seems there are more with the same HW field14:43
rsalvetihtc dna comes with "UNKNOWN"14:43
ogra_and it looks like the android property seems pretty accurate14:43
ogra_no idea if we could just access that from the container ... instead of handling it through a file14:44
rsalvetineeds to investigate it further, but I don't know yet in details how the android init system stores the properties14:45
rsalvetibut I think it'll probably be the easier way to move this forward indeed14:46
ogra_effectively you dont want that functionality in ubuntu-session (or its successor) at all14:46
rsalvetiogra_: there's also a kernel cmdline it seems14:47
rsalvetiandroidboot.hardware=mako14:47
ogra_so we might just want to set the right values on first boot in something like /data/ubuntu/etc/display and source that on session startup14:47
rsalvetiogra_: yup14:47
ogra_else your session startup will get even slower than it is right now the more device you add14:48
rsalvetiI know, this way is definitely not the right way to move forward :-)14:49
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ogra_i dont have androidboot.hardware ...14:49
ogra_i have androidboot.serialno=0009c7dd53c73f... not sure if that helps14:49
ogra_and i have14:49
ogra_root@android:/ # getprop ro.product.device14:49
ogra_GT-I910014:49
ogra_the latter seems to actually be the most reliable one14:50
rsalvetiyeah14:51
ogra_but i would prefer to handle it on the ubuntu side ... guess i cant just have everything :)14:51
rsalvetiproblem is that we can create a way, or force a correct cpu id from proc or similar, but that doesn't means the android vendors/devices will have it done correctly14:52
rsalveti:-)14:52
ogra_yeah, well, i assume the ro.product.device prop gets set at build time from some info in the tree14:53
rsalvetiyup, from device/foo/bar14:53
ogra_on xda developers i see a lot of people starting to work with overlay zips ...14:53
ogra_that will get messy soon14:53
rsalvetibecause it's probably what the android about screen shows14:53
ogra_so we shoulld offer some solution14:54
rsalvetioverlay?14:54
ogra_oh, i didnt think about looking in /dev14:54
ogra_!14:54
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ogra_yeah14:55
ogra_overlays that supply a hacked ubuntu-session14:55
rsalvetiright14:55
ogra_(which your next dist-upgrade will then overwrite ... messy ... as i said)14:55
rsalvetiwe need to find a better solution14:56
rsalvetiyeah14:56
rsalvetipeople are not used dealing with packages :-)14:56
rsalvetiandroid is all a built once thing14:56
ogra_yeah14:57
rferrazzmmrazik: jenkins for ubuntu-calculator app seems away, i've proposed a branch for merging but it haven't tested it15:05
mhhi, i want to install https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/tf101#link_to_images. is there a instruction guide for this? like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Flashing_the_device? not sure how to flash the os to the pad. should i do this via sd card and cwm15:11
mhanyone?15:15
bassochettemh: what did you already do? what is your problem?15:20
mhi have rooted the device. with adb root i get adbd is already ruuning as root. i installed cwm. That was the only way i did know to get root.... Before i found the link on ubuntu :D15:21
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mhi want to flash the image to my tablet. i have root and the image but have no idea how to install it.15:22
dun1982Hi, I made little update on the p6800 in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices, I added the p6800 from WIP to works somehow section even if it is still quite bad shape currently.15:22
ogra_mh, first flash the device specific image ... then the phablet*.zip one15:22
dun1982mh: Try adb commands.15:22
mhmh: yes, in theory i know that i have to flash first the image than the other. but not how.15:23
dun1982ie. tell me what happens when you write in your workstation this command: "adb devices"15:23
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mh0380618 ... device15:23
bassochettedid you unlock our bootloader?15:24
mhbassochette: i have root. is this the same?15:24
dun1982ok, what device are you using (ie. I'm using galaxy tab 7.7)? And more importantly can you access recovery in your device (ie. can you use Clockworkmod)?15:24
bassochetteno, you don't need to be root to flash for ubuntu touch15:24
mhi have an tf10115:25
mhi think i can use clockwordmod. it's installed.15:25
dun1982mh: Have you already read this then from the Ubuntu-touch device page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/tf10115:25
dun1982Ok, good, then you can run the following commands most likely "adb push <image-file-path-and-name-here> /sdcard/"15:26
mhdun1982: ok so i need to have an sdcard insert. can i do this via internal memory?15:27
dun1982Sure you can, but I do not know that well the tf10115:27
dun1982So you basically need to be able to push the file somewhere with enough space, somewhere that you do not format in recovery.15:27
dun1982ie. putting it to /data/ for example is bad idea, because you need to do a factory wipe anyway through clockwork mod recovery.15:28
mhok i understood following: i copy the image to an sdcard, start cwm(power, +, - ) and then recover from the image. and this also with the 2nd image.15:28
dun1982- Wipe data15:28
dun1982Read the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/tf101#Installation15:28
mhyeah, but i do not know HOW to flash the images. like i tought i do?15:29
dun1982And if you write only adb, it will tell you the different options you have in use...15:29
dun1982mh: You got this point: - Place both of these files in a place where you can flash them from recovery ?15:30
dun1982Yes/no?15:30
mhyes/no. i do not have a sdcard here. i will get one. But i want to understand the basic order. 1. copy the files to the sdcard 2. wipe data 3. start cwm and recover from the image. correct?15:31
bassochettedid you try to use phablet for flashing?15:32
mhi tried to follow the instruction for nexus(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Flashing_the_device). but is it correct what i wrote? then i will try it with a sdcard15:33
dun1982recovery is the place where you can select the uploaded zip-files and install them. But after you have done the facotry wipe (which will format your tf101).15:34
ogra_and you shoouldnt need a physical SD card ... as long as the /sdcard folder has enough space to carry the img files15:34
dun1982do this: "adb shell"15:35
mhahhh ok, there is a space an my tablet called /sdcard but not a real sdcard?15:35
dun1982And this: "df -h" or "df"15:35
dun1982Paste the result.15:35
ogra_there is a mountpoint in android thats called /sdcard, yes15:35
mhah ok wait a sec15:36
dun1982mh: just do this in this order: 1. "adb shell", 2. "df -h" or "df", 3. "paste the result here".15:36
mhFilesystem             Size   Used   Free   Blksize /dev                   360M    32K   360M   4096 /mnt/asec              360M     0K   360M   4096 /mnt/obb               360M     0K   360M   4096 /system                503M   457M    46M   4096 /data                   13G     1G    11G   4096 /cache                 521M     8M   512M   4096 /Removable             360M     0K   360M   4096 /mnt/sdcard             13G     1G    11G 15:38
mhi did df without h15:38
ogra_/mnt/sdcard             13G     1G    11G15:38
ogra_thats what you want to know15:38
ogra_11G free15:38
mhok, i did adb push Downloads/ubuntu-touch-tf101.zip /sdcard/. what now? now i want to flash it right?15:41
ogra_yes, and then the phablet zipfile15:42
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mhok, i do a flash with load in the bootloader and recover with cmw? or is there a way via shell?15:43
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zygajhodapp: hi15:49
jhodapphey zyga15:52
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mhcwm is always saying "can't mount /sdcard"... any idea?15:54
dun1982mh: once you have the two zip-files in the machine.15:54
dun1982Well you might need to find a cwm which is tailored for your system...15:55
dun1982your system do not have /sdcard but /mnt/sdcard instead...15:55
mhah ok. so i will install another version. thanks15:55
dun1982Well it does not matter actually.15:56
dun1982Just mount the /mnt/sdcard, install the zip files from there and reboot. All this is done in cwm15:56
dun1982Also remember to do full wipe.15:56
ogra_it shoouldnt matter at all where your zip is15:57
ogra_you can pick it from the recovery menu15:57
dun1982ogra_: It matters where to find them :)15:57
ogra_there is a file browser for this15:57
ogra_at least in the ubuntu supplied cwm i use here15:57
mhi have cwm v3.1.0.1 ... i can't mount /mnt/sdcard doesn't appear in the menu. I have reboot, aply update from sdcard, wipe data, wipe cache, install zipe from sdcard, backup and restore, mounts and storade, advanced, power off15:58
ogra_you should have something like "flash zip from file" or so15:59
ogra_that lets you pick a zip file to flash15:59
mhnope ... sadly not15:59
zygajhodapp: hey, I'm curious about how media frameworks on ubuntu touch is going to work like, specifically if we have a notion of a media library that has content which can be "played" by the actual media appls (gallery, music, videos)15:59
ogra_its going to work awesome16:00
ogra_:P16:00
jhodappzyga, join #ubuntu-media16:02
gaara_akashdid anyone manage to get rid of the import error? "import Ubuntu.Components 0.1" for that line?16:02
gaara_akashthe QML not found error16:02
zygajhodapp: thanks16:03
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mhthanks for help! it works!16:42
zAo^_Which currentgen SoC has the best cards for Ubuntu Touch support?16:48
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* mpt realizes he's never known what "Call Waiting" actually is16:52
mptpraise be to Wikipedia16:52
ogra_rsalveti, HA !16:53
ogra_rsalveti, grep ro.cm.device /system/build.prop |sed -e 's/.*=//'16:53
rsalvetiogra_: cool, this file might be the one then16:53
ogra_yeah, libhybris relies on it too16:53
ogra_so we are safe assuming its always there16:53
rsalvetias long as we can access the android system partition, yes16:54
rsalvetibut cool16:54
ogra_do you plan to change that ?16:54
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dun1982ogra_: "so we are safe assuming its always there", that sounds lie assumption that I have heard so many f#ยค"ing times in software development world :)16:58
dun1982lie => like16:58
rsalvetiogra_: we need, I might not have the time this week, so if you do, please change it :-)16:59
rsalvetiI'd like a way for people to just submit a conf file as well16:59
rsalvetithat matches the device id16:59
rsalvetiwe can have a directory as kind of a database16:59
rsalvetiand source the <deviceid>.conf after finding the device id17:00
rsalvetiso we don't need to change ubuntu-session or any other script later on17:00
ogra_rsalveti, heh, happy to prepare a patch (actually i would really like to rewrite that stuff in POSIX shell, it hurts my eyes every time i open it ... and it huts even more when my phone takes ages to start up :) )17:03
ogra_rsalveti, but with "do you plan to change that" i was referring to the /system mount17:03
ogra_dun1982, well, we define the system ... so if it vanmnmishes we removed it ourselves :)17:05
ogra_hmm, where do all these m's come from17:05
rsalvetiogra_: patches are always accepted :-)17:05
rsalvetiogra_: probably not, as you said, it's required by hybris as well17:05
rsalvetithe libs are at the same partition17:06
ogra_yeah17:06
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Guest28350uhm yeah hi, i had a question... Where can I download the developer preview of the OS? I can't seem to find a link or button17:08
ogra_http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/17:09
ogra_also see the install instructions as mentioned in the channel topic17:09
Guest28350thank you :)17:10
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Stevo_Need some help17:12
Stevo_Anyone have a ubuntu touch sample for samsung galaxy tab2 7.017:12
ogra_see the Devices wikipage17:13
* ogra_ points to the channel topic17:13
Stevo_ok let me check it17:14
bobweaverHello I want to daul boot my nexus 7 is there offical docs or should I just look on xda ?17:23
paulk-desktopHi! Where can I find Ubuntu Touch images for nexus s (crespo)?17:24
ogra_bobweaver, xda, we dont support or encourage it so if it breaks you have to keep the pieces :)17:24
paulk-desktopalso, any serious developer in the room?17:24
dun1982paulk-desktop: no17:24
ogra_bobweaver, note that the OTA upgrade process might completely trash it (once we implement that)17:24
bobweaver:(17:25
ogra_paulk-desktop, only funny developers here17:25
dun1982paulk-desktop: we are not serious at all. We like to tease people a lot.17:25
bobweaverI need to but different n7 then17:25
paulk-desktopokay :D17:25
paulk-desktopso basically I'm interested in graphics17:25
ogra_bobweaver, well, currently you arent in danger yet :)17:25
paulk-desktopI sorta understood that it's not Xorg17:25
paulk-desktop1. Why not?17:25
ogra_there is no such thing like OTA upgrades ...17:25
paulk-desktop2. Is it SurfaceFlinger then?17:26
dun1982paulk-desktop: 1. nice or truthful answer?17:26
paulk-desktopdun1982, truthful17:26
ogra_bobweaver, but it will happen at some point and it will very likely be ignorant to such custom setups17:26
dun1982paulk-desktop: 2. So you are asking what is used :)17:26
paulk-desktopdun1982, yeah, what's used then?17:26
ogra_paulk-desktop, 1. drivers 2. yes17:27
bobweaverogra_,  yeah that is what I was thinking. Kinda hard to make things when you have no clue about the future of things17:27
zAo^For now17:27
ogra_dun1982, sorry, took the shortcut :)17:27
dun1982hehe :)17:27
paulk-desktopogra_, dun1982, so I guess that you use the google gralloc hwcomposer and EGL libs, correct?17:27
ogra_yes ...17:27
paulk-desktophave you tried with software gl only?17:28
ogra_but SF will go away in favour of Mir17:28
paulk-desktopI'm interested in knowing whether it's worth doing a fully free software fork or not17:28
ogra_of surfaceflinger ?17:28
paulk-desktopof the system17:28
paulk-desktopUbuntu Mobile or whatever you call it17:29
ogra_Ubuntu Touch17:29
dun1982Ubuntu touch``17:29
ogra_and it is full free software17:29
paulk-desktopogra_, let me doubt that :)17:29
ogra_?17:29
paulk-desktopyou use CM 10.1 as a base17:29
paulk-desktopwhich comes with blobs17:29
dun1982Eh?17:29
dun1982With what blobs?17:29
ogra_yeah, there is no way around blobs17:29
paulk-desktoplike gralloc, hwcomposer, EGL, etc17:29
paulk-desktopogra_, sure there is17:29
paulk-desktopthat's my point17:29
ogra_not in a usable way17:29
paulk-desktopI wonder whether it would be usable without blobs17:29
paulk-desktopie: fast enough17:30
ogra_no, it wont17:30
paulk-desktopogra_, Gnex is fast enough with no blobs with Android17:30
paulk-desktopwith firefox OS too it seems17:30
paulk-desktopnow I'm wondering about ubuntu touch17:30
ogra_well, Mir will fully rely on gralloc and EGL17:30
paulk-desktopogra_, I can guess so17:30
dun1982paulk-desktop: Wonder as much as like, no one is forcing you to do anything :)17:30
paulk-desktoplol17:30
ogra_if you can emulate that properly (probably someone even did already, i havent looked at Mir at all yet) ...17:31
dun1982paulk-desktop: and btw, I have no ties with Ubuntu, except that I want it to work with my device :)17:31
paulk-desktopmy point is about whether using only software GL only would work or not17:31
ogra_tvoss, ^^^17:31
paulk-desktopwho's a developer then?17:31
dun1982paulk-desktop: What is a developer for you?17:31
ogra_i would bet there is a SW renderer in Mir already17:31
ogra_it wont be fun to use though17:31
dun1982paulk-desktop: Is it something that reads in your title?17:31
paulk-desktopogra_, I don't want 3D, just fast enough 2D17:32
paulk-desktopdun1982, that means you know what it's about :)17:32
ogra_you want compisiting17:32
paulk-desktopogra_, nope17:32
paulk-desktopif it can be avoided17:32
ogra_and you want it fast enough to be usable17:32
ogra_since all of the UI uses it17:32
paulk-desktop:/17:32
paulk-desktopso there were no tires of Ubuntu Touch on software GL only?17:32
ogra_i dont know, you would have to ask the Mir guys17:33
paulk-desktop(there is a free CPU-side lbEGL and framebuffer-only gralloc on Android, I mean with that)17:33
paulk-desktopogra_, or see for myself17:33
paulk-desktopbut I don't have any of the supported devices17:33
ogra_right, Mir code is public17:33
paulk-desktopogra_, no, I mean by testing on a device17:33
paulk-desktopit depends a lot on the device also17:34
paulk-desktopomap4 tends to be faster than s5pc11017:34
ogra_there are about 30 devices UT runs on ...17:34
paulk-desktopand exynos4 faster than both, etc17:34
paulk-desktopI have: Nexus S, Galaxy S, Galaxy S217:34
paulk-desktopany of them?17:34
ogra_i use an S2 here myself17:34
ogra_which model ?17:34
paulk-desktopinternational gsm17:35
paulk-desktopi910017:35
ogra_yeah, same here17:35
dun1982paulk-desktop: I use gt-p6800 which is exynos4 based.17:35
paulk-desktopogra_, any idea where to find images?17:35
ogra_look at the devices wikipage17:35
ogra_(see channel topic)17:35
paulk-desktopxda?17:35
* ogra_ doesnt see xda in the topic17:36
dun1982https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices17:36
ogra_dun1982, now you took the shortcut :P17:36
dun1982https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/galaxysmtd17:36
paulk-desktopogra_, I'm talking about the link this page refers to17:36
dun1982ogra_: that's the shortcut :)17:36
ogra_no, its i910017:36
paulk-desktopon galaxys2 it refers to xda, correct?17:37
ogra_i think all these pages refer to some xda threads, yeah17:37
dun1982Werent you talking about this one: Samsung Galaxy S (GT-I9000)17:37
ogra_910017:37
dun1982Or this one: Samsung Galaxy S B (GT-I9000B)17:37
dun1982Ah, sorry :(17:37
ogra_SGS217:38
paulk-desktopwill you actually consider something cleaner than running on top of CM eventually?17:38
dun1982ogra_: maybe you should do the same thing that I did with my p6800 and put it already in sort of working state :)17:38
paulk-desktopogra_, anyways, thanks for your help, I have to get back to studying17:39
ogra_dun1982, i'm not the porter :)17:42
ogra_i just help him17:42
ogra_i asked that he updates the wiki though17:42
dun1982Why can't you update the page?17:43
ogra_so i guess he will do it at some point17:43
dun1982Ie. I would not mind if someone else would do something with my device/repository once a while :D17:43
ogra_i could, but i dont hav ehis contact data ... or dont know which data he wants to use17:43
ogra_so i prefer to leave it to him17:44
dun1982Sure, I understand it, but with most of the devs around, it usually is so that they think only themselfs and let the rest to be figured out bysomeone else.17:44
dun1982Sorry if I sound a little bit doom and gloom, but my current worktitle puts me in so interesting discussions with guys who have been developing something specific for 10 years straight...17:45
ogra_yeah, i only have 8 under my belt in the current job :)17:46
dun1982As a dev, I like to figure out what else there, so the big bigture is very important concept for me. Btw, if interested, I could recommend https://leanpub.com/software-architecture-for-developers this book for any developer in this channel :)17:47
dun1982and the blog is even better :)17:47
dun1982ogra_: Thank god I dont have anyone directly in my control anymore. I got enough after 2 years in teamlead position where I had 29 people under me :)17:48
dun1982And 8 is actually quite much already, quite good amount anyway.17:48
dun1982I would be part of the team of 6-8 people including me, anything else and we hit huge organizational overheads soon... And communication issues :)17:49
ogra_well, my job allows me to work from home and to do communication via IRC and mail17:51
dun1982Sure, I work daily with skype, irc, webex and email. But that's not what I meant.17:52
dun1982At worst times I had customer in one city, I was in the capital of Finland, my finnish team members in middle of finland, then our indian collaques in two different cities in India.17:53
dun1982And that's fine and dandy, until people stop communicating and sharing :)17:54
dun1982ah. but new kernel is baked :)17:55
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tvossogra_, ping18:20
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int3\info18:41
froekis there anyone here who can talk to the limit of usb/flash memory device limits in ubuntu18:46
froekrelated to touch devices of course18:46
dun1982froek: what do you mean?19:00
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tvosspaulk-desktop, ping19:11
dun1982ok, I have very specific question now. How to heck can I extract the contents of boot.img?19:23
dun1982ie. all the tools that I have tried thus far do not work at all.19:23
dun1982But I can still boot with the boot.img I currently have.19:23
dank101100% actuate IE6 simulator19:28
dank101http://mrdoob.com/lab/javascript/effects/ie6/19:28
dank101lol19:29
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paulk-desktoptvoss, pong19:38
tvosspaulk-desktop, sorry, just about to eod. can you ping me tomorrow?19:39
paulk-desktopI'll try19:39
tvosspaulk-desktop, thank you :)19:40
traxmacis there anyway to run traditional apps on the touch i.e. via some kind of qml container19:43
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netcurlihttps://code.launchpad.net/~djfun/+junk/Akari20:01
thIsgUy_Ca anybody tell me if I'm doing anything wrong. I'm trying to make a image and this is what i see     jon@jon-NE56R:~/[target_directory]$ . build/envsetup.sh including device/htc/shootervm/vendorsetup.sh including vendor/cm/vendorsetup.sh jon@jon-NE56R:~/[target_directory]$ brunch <target>20:15
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dun1982thIsgUy_: let me tell you what you should get. I'll pastebin in a moment.20:22
dun1982thIsgUy_: http://pastebin.com/sK96k8Wg20:24
dun1982Does this help you to understand what was the point?20:24
thIsgUy_let me look at it for a second20:25
dank101EVERYBODY DO THE FLOP20:26
* dank101 falls20:26
thIsgUy_oh okay I think I see what i did wrong20:28
ogra_rsalveti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614709/ ... untested yet20:31
dank101is howtomen here?20:35
dank101nvm20:35
thIsgUy_what does this mean      build/core/product_config.mk:239: *** _nic.PRODUCTS.[[device/htc/shootervm/cm.mk]]: "device/htc/msm8660-common/bcm_hcd.mk" does not exist.    Thats what happens when I do brunch shootervm21:19
mhall119netcurli: you got featured: http://www.iloveubuntu.net/ubuntu-sdk-session-presents-how-write-games-qml-and-javascript21:19
mikedellhey21:26
mikedellmichael@ubuntu:~$ phablet-flash -b21:27
mikedellDevice detected as toroplus21:27
mikedellUnsupported device, autodetect fails device21:27
mikedellIm trying to install on my samsung galaxy nexus21:27
LordShadowWingis the terminal working on the ubuntu touch OS21:28
mikedellHow would i know?21:28
LordShadowWingim asking the wntire room21:28
LordShadowWingentire*21:28
mikedelloooo21:28
mikedellany ideas what that means?21:29
LordShadowWingwhat what means21:31
mikedell michael@ubuntu:~$ phablet-flash -b21:31
mikedell Device detected as toroplus21:31
mikedell Unsupported device, autodetect fails device21:31
mikedellit's a samsung galaxy nexus21:32
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LordShadowWingtoroplus is sprint correct?21:34
LordShadowWingtouch preview only supports GSM galaxy nexus so far21:34
LordShadowWingfrom what i have read21:34
mikedellugh no sprint21:34
mikedelllame21:35
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LordShadowWingone reason to hate sprint21:41
ogra_rsalveti, seen the paste above ? havent tested it yet, but it should theoretically be fine and read configs from /etc/ubuntu-session.d/$device.conf21:53
rsalvetisorry not yet, let me check21:54
ogra_no hurry21:54
ogra_i wont send MPs before i have tested it21:54
ogra_and i wont test tonight :)21:55
rsalvetiogra_: cool, sounds like an improvement :-)21:55
ogra_:)21:56
rsalvetithen people can just create config files21:56
ogra_yeah21:56
rsalvetiand even if not sending that to us, they will still be able to update the package21:56
ogra_right, just drop it in the dir21:56
ogra_egtting the bash array stuff ported to POSIX costed me some hair though :)21:57
ogra_*getting21:57
rsalvetilol, yeah21:57
rsalvetiit's quite a pain indeed21:57
LordShadowWinghow do i access the file system of the phone on my ubuntu desktop21:58
ogra_see the release notes21:58
ogra_there are instructions21:58
ogra_(see the channel topic for the link)21:59
LordShadowWingit is running better than the last time i flashed it22:13
LordShadowWingok, Now I want to install a different recovery is it possible to flash just the recovery using ubuntu terminsl and ADB22:18
LordShadowWingfigured it out22:35
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LordShadowWingsuccessfully flashed CWM and CM1022:44
LordShadowWinghad to flash CWM through fastboot and had to flash CM 10 through sideload on CWM22:45
thIsgUyYou guys is the local manifest file and the manifest.xml file the same thing?22:55
lilsteviethIsgUy, no22:56
RobbyFAre any of the daily apps launched from the ui yet?22:57
LordShadowWingflashing back to android in order to run a music player22:57
thIsgUydang I been changing around the manifest file. Ok so where is the local manifest file because I'm not seeing it anywhere22:58
LordShadowWingim going to wait till it enters beta22:58
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thIsgUyDo I need to download another local manifest? because I'm trying to make a image for the evo 3d but it keep giving me some kind of error when I do brunch shootervm (evo v same as 3d) it say manually add something to local manifest but I can't find that file. All I see if manifest.xml23:30
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mathomastechHey all. I am trying to test an Ubuntu Touch app I wrote on my Nexus 7, but it is prompting me for a password. I never set up a password and the only thing I could find online is that the default is "phablet" but it does not work.23:54
mathomastechAnyone run into this issue?23:54

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