[00:01] <dfries> A question on the power consumption.  can `adb root` `adb shell reboot -p` be run from the device, or is that only from a connected system?  If it isn't shut off (for the Nexus 10), would it drain in a day, a week?
[00:04] <rsalveti> dfries: you can shutdown the device by holding the power button for a few seconds as well
[00:05] <dfries> rsalveti: Hum, the release notes say others wise, "Currently the devices can not be shutdown from within the UI or by pressing the power button. Even if you use the power button long press your battery will be drained."
[00:05] <rsalveti> hm, that was fixed, need to change the release notes
[00:07] <rsalveti> dfries: just updated the release notes
[00:08] <dfries> Great, thanks.  The other question I had was the "is released for free non-commercial use", intended for don't release products until the final hardware/software comes out, or don't do internal development?
[00:10] <rsalveti> for commercial use (regarding the ubuntu trademark), I'd say you need to contact canonical first (http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy)
[00:11] <rsalveti> the software is open source, it's just regarding the ubuntu trademark
[00:11] <ogra_> rsalveti, https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/session-manager/samsung-gt-i9100/+merge/153263 ... one for you :)
[00:12] <dfries> rsalveti: That makes sense, thanks.
[00:12] <rsalveti> ogra_: cool, waiting it to be updated
[00:13] <ogra_> heh, i was to fast, sorry
[00:13] <ali1234> ah, yes, /sdcard mounted in recovery
[00:14] <ali1234> but why not in general use?
[00:17] <ogra_> bah, i messed up whitespace in the last line of the MP
[00:18] <rsalveti> ogra_: your email is wrong as well
[00:18]  * ogra_ needs to fix his .vimrc one day ... someone once talked me into making it perfect for python ... since then my tabs are always messed up in shell
[00:18] <ogra_> lol, yeah
[00:18] <ogra_> havent set DEBEMAIL here
[00:18]  * ogra_ fixes
[00:22] <ogra_> rsalveti, fixed
[00:27] <rsalveti> ogra_: approved
[00:27] <ogra_> yay, thanks
[00:28] <ogra_> that stuff gets autobuilt, right ?
[00:28] <rsalveti> ogra_: yup, should be available at the ppa in a few
[00:28] <ogra_> k, just wanted to know if that was all action to take :)
[00:28] <rsalveti> yeah, now we just wait
[00:28]  * ogra_ starts to like that autobuild stuff :)
[00:44] <ali1234> so why is phablet still building 10.1-20130222-UNOFFICIAL-galaxysmtd
[00:44] <ali1234> why is the date not today?
[00:44] <ali1234> does this matter?
[00:48] <rsalveti> guess when doing incremental it doesn't change the date
[00:48] <rsalveti> doesn't matter much
[00:52] <gearhead> hey guys,I'm looking for a bit of info
[00:52] <ali1234> how do i find the latest daily rootfs?
[00:52] <ali1234> phablet-flash -l?
[00:53] <gearhead> It would seem the daily builds are not where they were. Terminal is yelling me Jeremy's format has changed
[00:53] <ali1234> jenkins
[00:53] <ali1234> and yeah, that's being fixed
[00:53] <gearhead> sorry,Jenkins
[00:54] <ali1234> as in leeroy i guess
[00:54] <gearhead> Thanks,thought maybe i needed to be directed elsewhere
[00:58] <rsalveti> that's fixed by https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/phablet-tools/fixing_build_id_stamp_release_0.7/+merge/153186
[00:59] <rsalveti> waiting for it to land
[02:02] <dharber> goog evening folks any reason Ubuntu 12.10 cannot adb with terminal session with VZW Galexy Nexus
[02:02] <dharber> It can connect with MTP
[02:08] <claptop> wouldnt it be feasible/sensible to use vector graphics for everything that way you can scale up to the tv with less changes being made
[02:11] <dharber> I found the problem android tools failed to download re-ran update and it is good thanks
[02:12] <howcoza> Good morning
[02:17] <Mourougan> hi Friends.... I'm trying to flash ubuntu touch into my Nexus 10... as a first step I tried the first step ie., unlocking my device using "sudo fastboot oem unlock"
[02:18] <Mourougan> after unlock... when I reboot the device after unlock, it does not booting with Android... just keep on showing google logo and then the X logo
[02:19] <Mourougan> anybody out there can help me on this?
[02:19] <bitplane> ooh lots of people in here!
[02:20] <bitplane> Does this thing run in the Android emulator yet?
[02:20] <RobbyF> nope
[02:21] <bitplane> Any QEMU support at all?
[02:21] <bitplane> or do I need to play with it on a real device
[02:22] <ali1234> real device for now i think
[02:22] <LordShadowWing> Hello
[02:22] <howcoza> Does anyone have any instructions I could follow to install the ubuntu phone os on to my HTC desire?
[02:22] <bitplane> aw that sucks. oh well
[02:22] <LordShadowWing> does the OS have access to mobile data yet?
[02:22] <RobbyF> LordShadowWing, not yet.
[02:22] <LordShadowWing> and is the music player functional?
[02:23] <RobbyF> it might be. I'm not sure though.
[02:23] <RobbyF> I havn't installed it yet.
[02:23] <LordShadowWing> All i need is the music player, search and terminal access to make it my daily driver
[02:24] <RobbyF> no search or term or music or data.
[02:24] <Mourougan> hello
[02:24] <LordShadowWing> blast.
[02:24] <RobbyF> How ever it looks like some of those apps will be ready for quality testing really soon.
[02:24] <RobbyF> as in days
[02:24] <RobbyF> From what I gather.
[02:24] <bitplane> IMO the most interesting thing about this OS idea is that we can have desktop OS over one of those USB -> HDMI converters
[02:24] <LordShadowWing> That is quite awesome
[02:24] <Mourougan> I'm facing issue in flashing ubuntu touch on my nexus 10
[02:25] <LordShadowWing> are you running the ubuntu desktop OS
[02:25] <RobbyF> Iam
[02:25] <ali1234> bitplane: that doesn't work yet either
[02:26] <LordShadowWing> should be simple
[02:26] <bitplane> how does the whole thing work? is it a bunch of services and a window manager with its own APIs for touch applications?
[02:26] <ali1234> whole thing?
[02:27] <bitplane> I mean, is it just a normal GNU/Linux install with a different login screen
[02:27] <Mourougan> yes i'm running on ubuntu desktop os
[02:27] <ali1234> the whole thing works by being a QML UI on top of Qt on top of surface flinger, running in a full ubuntu chroot which runs on top of a cut down android base
[02:27] <LordShadowWing> interesting
[02:27] <bitplane> ah cool thanks
[02:28] <ali1234> the HDMI full desktop thingy works by running full ubuntu in a virtual machine with an IPC for stuff like SMS and phone
[02:28] <ali1234> but that isn't available in current builds
[02:28] <bitplane> So it's going to use Android's drivers and stuff for phone, SMS etc?
[02:29] <LordShadowWing> they should be out of alpha stage within 4-6 months
[02:29] <ali1234> yeah basically that is the idea
[02:29] <LordShadowWing> by the time its beta it will be near completion
[02:30] <bitplane> so do modern ARM phone CPUs support virtualization, and the Linux kernel?
[02:30] <bitplane> or are we talking battery-burning ugliness here?
[02:31] <ali1234> some of them do
[02:31] <Mourougan> anybody can help me?
[02:31] <ali1234> you've seen motorola atrix right? it works the same way
[02:31] <ali1234> it even uses ubuntu with the name scratched off
[02:32] <bitplane> oh nice
[02:32] <bitplane> didn't know that
[02:32] <LordShadowWing> mourougan: do you have teamviewer for linux installed
[02:32] <LordShadowWing> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[02:32] <Mourougan> no ... lord
[02:32] <LordShadowWing> it is free
[02:33] <bitplane> gratis or free?
[02:33] <LordShadowWing> closed source, but free as in free beer
[02:33] <Mourougan> great installing
[02:34] <bitplane> The more I think about this whole thing the more I think Windows 8 has a huge head start
[02:35] <LordShadowWing> let me know when you have teamviewer installeb mouro
[02:35] <bitplane> The main advantage for Ubuntu being that they don't need a crummy cut-down version for the desktop OS
[02:35] <Mourougan> sure Lord.. thanks
[02:35] <bitplane> and all previous apps will work
[02:38] <ali1234> nope
[02:39] <linton> I'm downloading the image now, but I can't wait to find out: can you install regular linux applications on Ubuntu Touch?
[02:39] <ali1234> yeah but most of them won't work
[02:39] <ali1234> and the ones that do you will have to ssh into phone to run them
[02:40] <linton> :(
[02:40] <RobbyF> ali1234, even the daily's?
[02:41] <bitplane> I guess there's no freedesktop-wide advice for multiple screens then?
[02:42] <bitplane> I mean multiple screens for different purposes, like a handheld screen, a computer screen, a fixed device display, a television etc
[02:44] <bitplane> 'cause if there were you'd expect apps to be able to write a different UI to each one.. you media player would display controls on your handheld while it plays video to your TV and a "do not disturb" on your door
[02:46] <LordShadowWing> mouro, hows it coming?
[02:50] <RobbyF> Jenkins data format has changed, incompatible ?
[02:55] <ali1234> RobbyF: wait for new phablet-tools package
[02:57] <mourougan> hi Lord
[02:58] <linton> I'm not very knowledgable about linux commands.  I did "phablet-flash -b".  It downloaded ok, but is hanging at the step where it pushes Ubuntu Touch to the tablet.  Any ideas?
[02:58] <mourougan> which tablet you are using linton?
[02:58] <linton> Nexus 10.
[02:59] <mourougan> cool... even I using my nexus 10... but it doesn't boot after I unlock the device
[02:59] <mourougan> stuck at the nexus logo
[02:59] <mourougan> how did you pass through this stage... have you faced same issue?
[03:00] <linton> I had that happen, too. I re-installed a fresh copy of Android and re-started the instructions and it worked.
[03:00] <mourougan> cool.... then let me try that option... great
[03:01] <linton> Just curious, did you have Android encryption turned on?  I did and I thought maybe that had something to do with the problem.
[03:01] <mourougan> i don't think i turned on encryption
[03:02] <mourougan> no i didn't
[03:03] <linton> It was just a hunch.  Well, at least we got your installation to the next step (if your result is the same as mine).
[03:05] <mourougan> hmmm... let me start my part first... hope somebody will have solution for your issue rite now...
[03:06] <linton> Only solution I've found so far is that there isn't a problem, but that it just takes a long time for that 500M file to copy.  I'll just leave it alone for awhile.
[03:12] <rmj250> Hi just tried to update with phablet-flash -l and get this error now "Jenkins data format has changed, incompatible" anyone know why?
[03:14] <RobbyF> back end issue it looks I think
[03:14] <RobbyF> update coming soon.
[03:14] <RobbyF> not sure when.
[03:15] <rmj250> ok thx
[03:15] <rmj250> Don't suppose anyone knows when a version without all the fake data in it is coming?
[03:32] <krabador> where it's possible to look ubuntu touch changelog?
[03:47] <linton> krabador, I can't find any changelog available to the public
[03:51] <krabador> ok, nothing it's planned for thw wiki page?
[05:51] <mourougan> cool.... successfully flashed my Nexus 10 with Ubuntu touch developer preview....
[06:05] <traxmac> for the changelog check http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-ubuntu_stamp
[06:36] <eudoxos> hi, how  can I use dash on the tablet to run app by name? E.g. terminal which I installed over ssh and apt-get?
[07:16] <dpm> good morning mmrazik, when you've got a minute, do you think you could help me answering this question from the core apps mailing list? -> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-coreapps/msg00116.html
[07:17] <mmrazik> dpm: mhm... looking. there might be a bug somewhere
[07:18] <dpm> thanks :)
[07:19] <mmrazik> dpm: oh...  I see the problem
[07:19] <mmrazik> dpm: they commit to trunk directly
[07:19] <mmrazik> so jenkins is not involved in the merging -> doesn't do dput
[07:20] <mmrazik> let me answer on the mailing list
[07:20] <dpm> mmrazik, ah, I see. Thanks, that'd be really helpful, yes.
[07:21] <mmrazik> dpm: mhm... I'm not on the list. I'll subscribe but can you please fwd the mail to me?
[07:23] <dpm> mmrazik, sure. Done
[07:27] <dpm> hi Mirv, and here's one for you: do you think you could answer this one? -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/267353/problem-with-qtchooser
[07:42] <ImaCookieDog> Hello everyone!
[07:45] <dholbach> good morning
[07:46] <ImaCookieDog> I would like to talk about Ubuntu os
[07:46] <ImaCookieDog> for mobile
[07:46] <ImaCookieDog> Is there any ports for Samsung i9001?
[07:50] <Mirv> dpm: answered?
[07:50] <Mirv> -? :)
[07:52] <dpm> thanks Mirv!
[07:53] <Mirv> no problem
[08:00] <derp> is there a way to install the touch interface on an atom tablet?
[08:48] <dlan> hi, how to roll back to android image?
[08:49] <dlan> I can't find flash-all.sh
[08:49] <avi4love99> hi all can i get ubuntu touch on note n7000
[08:49] <dlan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess#Restoring_Android
[08:50] <dlan> avi4love99: seems semeone working on that..
[08:50] <dlan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[08:50] <dlan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/n7000
[11:48] <Laney> where should I reassign Ubuntu touch bugs that make it to Ubuntu packages?
[11:53] <Cyrildz_Akh> hello all
[11:53] <ogra_> Laney, to the respective package once it went into the archive
[11:54] <ogra_> up until it enters, use the url from the topic
[11:54] <Laney> ah yes, was off the end
[11:54] <Laney> ty
[11:55] <Cyrildz_Akh> I'm facing some issues with the news builds( from yesterday and later). when trying to flash the phone the last build, the phone could not boot. do you guys have notice this issue ?
[11:55] <Cyrildz_Akh> I'm back on stock rom now
[11:56] <dank101> i do
[11:57] <dank101> lots of people do
[12:03] <ogra_> on a supported device ?
[12:05] <Cyrildz_Akh> I'm on the Razr XT910, the port was done from some guy from XDA
[12:06] <dun1982> Ok, what would be a good place to start looking on solving two issues in smdk4210 chipset tablet? 1st issue is network not working (so apt-get etc.. not working :) and the 2nd issue is no working displaydrivers? 3rd minor one is that boot.img made with Ubuntu-touch repository cannot be extracted by my device while booting (this can be fixed manually by hand...)
[12:06] <ogra_> does he regulary re-spin the image and make sure to pick up the bzr changes in the tree ?
[12:06] <rferrazz> mhall119: today i've proposed a branch for merging within ubuntu-calculator-app and i've noticed that jenkins is not appeared on the reviewers list
[12:07] <ogra_> libhybris and the ubuntu api stuff needs to be upgraded alongside the phablet.zip changes regulary
[12:08] <ogra_> so make sure your $device.zip actually contains up to date copies
[12:08] <Cyrildz_Akh> orga_: No, the link in the wiki point to the last new build
[12:10] <Cyrildz_Akh> ogra_: yesterday I tried with all the recent builds and could not boot after falshing the phone
[12:14] <ogra_> Cyrildz_Akh, there were quite a few changes to the platform-api tree in the device repo, make sure the person maintaining your device port pulls them and re-spins the device images
[12:15] <ogra_> *device porter
[12:18] <P3T3> Hi friends, I am not able to execute anything from /data/ubuntu/usr/bin/ directory Always I get No such file or directory
[12:18] <ogra_> you need to do it from the container, not from android
[12:19] <ogra_> (see the release notes ...)
[12:19] <P3T3> ogra_, oh I see, but I a have problems with chroot
[12:19] <ogra_> whats the error ?
[12:20] <P3T3> root@android:/ # ubuntu_chroot shell => chroot: can't execute '/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[12:21] <ogra_> looks like you dont have the phablet.zip installed or the unpacking failed
[12:22] <P3T3> I have it installed, if you mean quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[12:22] <ogra_> (it installs the stuff in /data/ubuntu ... if /data was to full when extracting or not mounted or so you can get such issues)
[12:22] <P3T3> can you give me size of this image after unpacking?
[12:23] <ogra_> 1-2G
[12:24] <P3T3> my df reports : /data  1.2G   708.9M   487.2M   2048
[12:24] <P3T3> it means 708M used, 487M free
[12:24] <ogra_> and your port has a properly modified fstab ?
[12:24] <ogra_> 700M is definitely not right
[12:25] <ogra_> root@localhost:/# du -hcs /data/ubuntu/
[12:25] <ogra_> 1,2G	/data/ubuntu/
[12:25] <ogra_> (but you want some wiggle room, so make sure to have ~2G)
[12:27] <P3T3> so it is time to modify my partitions
[12:28] <ogra_> also check twice that you dont have nosuid in the fstab for /data
[12:28] <ogra_> (see the porting guide)
[12:37] <P3T3> ogra_, I have checked again: /dev/block/mmcblk0p6		/data		ext4		rw,noatime,nodev,barrier=1,discard,noauto_da_alloc,journal_async_commit		wait,check
[12:37] <P3T3> it looks OK
[12:37] <ogra_> yep
[12:54] <HEfOPMAT> Hi, I'm the owner of ACER W700, on a  platform x 86,  INTEL i3 processor, video INTEL HD 3000, screen resolution 1080p. Can I install the distro on it? Where can i get it?
[12:54] <ogra_> ubuntuu touch isnt available for x86 yet
[12:55] <ogra_> it iis android based and someone needs to port x86 support to cyanogenmod 10.1 first
[12:57] <HEfOPMAT> I installed Ubuntu Desktop, it works but it is inconvenient. Is it possible to install only GUI
[12:58] <ogra_> not yet
[12:59] <ogra_> packages are slowly moving into raring ... but i wouldnt expect the complete set before may/june
[13:02] <HEfOPMAT> On the main site, indicate compatibility with x86. Planning a version with support for the x86 platform, or the entire project only for ARM?
[13:04] <dun1982> I would quess that once we get kernel support up and running for ubuntu-touch, it will work also with x86.
[13:04] <dun1982> Ie. in that platform you have a very good app ecosystem already.
[13:05] <dun1982> And I would imagine that is the whole point in the ubuntu-touch to get arm phones/tables to work with ubuntu ecosystem :)
[13:07] <ogra_> yes
[13:08] <ogra_> well, i'm tasked with creating an x86 port that runs in qemu so people can emulate a device ....
[13:08] <ogra_> not sure if that will be able to run on actual HW in the end though
[13:09] <HEfOPMAT> I agree with this, the problem is to set up the tablet to a comfortable work, after installation, I have not got. Maybe there is some way to get similar functionality?
[14:11] <mmrazik> jhodapp: I assume qtvideo-node is not even supposed to build on i386 ?
[14:12] <mmrazik> https://code.launchpad.net/~jhodapp/qtvideo-node/multithreaded-rendering/+merge/152975
[14:12] <jhodapp> mmrazik, yeah, that's right...it shouldn't be built for i386
[14:12] <ogra_> we will need it though
[14:12] <mmrazik> jhodapp: ok. let me fix that
[14:12] <ogra_> thanks :)
[14:12] <jhodapp> mmrazik, thanks
[14:12] <mmrazik> ogra_: I mean the job -- not to build on i386
[14:12]  * mmrazik is not too keen to fix the package
[14:13] <ogra_> mmrazik, well, the emulator will be x86 qemu ...
[14:13] <ogra_> so all packages should also be built for x86
[14:13] <mmrazik> ogra_: sure... but I can't really fix all packages
[14:13] <ogra_> (not to mention that its a req. for entering the ubuntu archive)
[14:22] <Knight_> I intent to install touch on TF101 Eeepad Asus, it's needed to be rooted?
[14:25] <Knight_> hi
[14:33] <dun1982> Knight_: Check if there is a root available.
[14:34] <dun1982> After that chekck if there are CM-10.1 repos availble for kernel and device configure (otherwise you need to make those yourself, something that I had to cook up with gt-p6800).
[14:34] <dun1982> In that way it would be also good idea to contribute to community behind ubuntu-touch, wink wink :)
[14:34] <dholbach> rsalveti, heya - how are the changelog bits and pieces coming together? O:-)
[14:35] <rsalveti> dholbach: yup, got it working yesterday, will finish it up today
[14:35] <dun1982> Knight_: Here is the list of wip (work-in-progress, somehow working, working and supported) device list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[14:35] <rsalveti> should have more news later in the day
[14:36] <dholbach> rsalveti, awesome - how is it going to look then?
[14:36] <dun1982> Knight_: And yes, you even might need to do repartition (which means that you will essentially format and repartition all the information stored to your device).
[14:36] <rsalveti> dholbach: added/removed packages and for changed packages the name + latest debian changelog
[14:36] <rsalveti> which is very human readable
[14:37] <dholbach> rsalveti, that's great - and that's for every daily build compared to the last one?
[14:37] <dun1982> Knight_: Seems that there is already https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/tf101 page set-up for tft101.
[14:38] <rsalveti> dholbach: yeah
[14:41] <ogra_> rsalveti, so that checking of /proc/cpuinfo for the Hardware value will bite us soon, i wonder if we shouldnt add something to the android side that does something like "getprop ro.product.device >/data/ubuntu/etc/device" on boot to read that
[14:41] <ogra_> (to set the display values we need in ubuntu-session)
[14:42] <rsalveti> ogra_: we could try to get it from properties indeed
[14:42] <rsalveti> ogra_: in case we have devices sharing the same soc and cpuid
[14:42] <ogra_> indont see anything else in proc or sysfs
[14:43] <rsalveti> I know that the cpu id from proc is not used at all currently
[14:43] <ogra_> yeah, my patch might break other samsung devices, seems there are more with the same HW field
[14:43] <rsalveti> htc dna comes with "UNKNOWN"
[14:43] <ogra_> and it looks like the android property seems pretty accurate
[14:44] <ogra_> no idea if we could just access that from the container ... instead of handling it through a file
[14:45] <rsalveti> needs to investigate it further, but I don't know yet in details how the android init system stores the properties
[14:46] <rsalveti> but I think it'll probably be the easier way to move this forward indeed
[14:46] <ogra_> effectively you dont want that functionality in ubuntu-session (or its successor) at all
[14:47] <rsalveti> ogra_: there's also a kernel cmdline it seems
[14:47] <rsalveti> androidboot.hardware=mako
[14:47] <ogra_> so we might just want to set the right values on first boot in something like /data/ubuntu/etc/display and source that on session startup
[14:47] <rsalveti> ogra_: yup
[14:48] <ogra_> else your session startup will get even slower than it is right now the more device you add
[14:49] <rsalveti> I know, this way is definitely not the right way to move forward :-)
[14:49] <ogra_> i dont have androidboot.hardware ...
[14:49] <ogra_> i have androidboot.serialno=0009c7dd53c73f... not sure if that helps
[14:49] <ogra_> and i have
[14:49] <ogra_> root@android:/ # getprop ro.product.device
[14:49] <ogra_> GT-I9100
[14:50] <ogra_> the latter seems to actually be the most reliable one
[14:51] <rsalveti> yeah
[14:51] <ogra_> but i would prefer to handle it on the ubuntu side ... guess i cant just have everything :)
[14:52] <rsalveti> problem is that we can create a way, or force a correct cpu id from proc or similar, but that doesn't means the android vendors/devices will have it done correctly
[14:52] <rsalveti> :-)
[14:53] <ogra_> yeah, well, i assume the ro.product.device prop gets set at build time from some info in the tree
[14:53] <rsalveti> yup, from device/foo/bar
[14:53] <ogra_> on xda developers i see a lot of people starting to work with overlay zips ...
[14:53] <ogra_> that will get messy soon
[14:53] <rsalveti> because it's probably what the android about screen shows
[14:54] <ogra_> so we shoulld offer some solution
[14:54] <rsalveti> overlay?
[14:54] <ogra_> oh, i didnt think about looking in /dev
[14:54] <ogra_> !
[14:55] <ogra_> yeah
[14:55] <ogra_> overlays that supply a hacked ubuntu-session
[14:55] <rsalveti> right
[14:55] <ogra_> (which your next dist-upgrade will then overwrite ... messy ... as i said)
[14:56] <rsalveti> we need to find a better solution
[14:56] <rsalveti> yeah
[14:56] <rsalveti> people are not used dealing with packages :-)
[14:56] <rsalveti> android is all a built once thing
[14:57] <ogra_> yeah
[15:05] <rferrazz> mmrazik: jenkins for ubuntu-calculator app seems away, i've proposed a branch for merging but it haven't tested it
[15:11] <mh> hi, i want to install https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/tf101#link_to_images. is there a instruction guide for this? like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Flashing_the_device? not sure how to flash the os to the pad. should i do this via sd card and cwm
[15:15] <mh> anyone?
[15:20] <bassochette> mh: what did you already do? what is your problem?
[15:21] <mh> i have rooted the device. with adb root i get adbd is already ruuning as root. i installed cwm. That was the only way i did know to get root.... Before i found the link on ubuntu :D
[15:22] <mh> i want to flash the image to my tablet. i have root and the image but have no idea how to install it.
[15:22] <dun1982> Hi, I made little update on the p6800 in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices, I added the p6800 from WIP to works somehow section even if it is still quite bad shape currently.
[15:22] <ogra_> mh, first flash the device specific image ... then the phablet*.zip one
[15:22] <dun1982> mh: Try adb commands.
[15:23] <mh> mh: yes, in theory i know that i have to flash first the image than the other. but not how.
[15:23] <dun1982> ie. tell me what happens when you write in your workstation this command: "adb devices"
[15:23] <mh> 0380618 ... device
[15:24] <bassochette> did you unlock our bootloader?
[15:24] <mh> bassochette: i have root. is this the same?
[15:24] <dun1982> ok, what device are you using (ie. I'm using galaxy tab 7.7)? And more importantly can you access recovery in your device (ie. can you use Clockworkmod)?
[15:24] <bassochette> no, you don't need to be root to flash for ubuntu touch
[15:25] <mh> i have an tf101
[15:25] <mh> i think i can use clockwordmod. it's installed.
[15:25] <dun1982> mh: Have you already read this then from the Ubuntu-touch device page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/tf101
[15:26] <dun1982> Ok, good, then you can run the following commands most likely "adb push <image-file-path-and-name-here> /sdcard/"
[15:27] <mh> dun1982: ok so i need to have an sdcard insert. can i do this via internal memory?
[15:27] <dun1982> Sure you can, but I do not know that well the tf101
[15:27] <dun1982> So you basically need to be able to push the file somewhere with enough space, somewhere that you do not format in recovery.
[15:28] <dun1982> ie. putting it to /data/ for example is bad idea, because you need to do a factory wipe anyway through clockwork mod recovery.
[15:28] <mh> ok i understood following: i copy the image to an sdcard, start cwm(power, +, - ) and then recover from the image. and this also with the 2nd image.
[15:28] <dun1982> - Wipe data
[15:28] <dun1982> Read the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/tf101#Installation
[15:29] <mh> yeah, but i do not know HOW to flash the images. like i tought i do?
[15:29] <dun1982> And if you write only adb, it will tell you the different options you have in use...
[15:30] <dun1982> mh: You got this point: - Place both of these files in a place where you can flash them from recovery ?
[15:30] <dun1982> Yes/no?
[15:31] <mh> yes/no. i do not have a sdcard here. i will get one. But i want to understand the basic order. 1. copy the files to the sdcard 2. wipe data 3. start cwm and recover from the image. correct?
[15:32] <bassochette> did you try to use phablet for flashing?
[15:33] <mh> i tried to follow the instruction for nexus(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Flashing_the_device). but is it correct what i wrote? then i will try it with a sdcard
[15:34] <dun1982> recovery is the place where you can select the uploaded zip-files and install them. But after you have done the facotry wipe (which will format your tf101).
[15:34] <ogra_> and you shoouldnt need a physical SD card ... as long as the /sdcard folder has enough space to carry the img files
[15:35] <dun1982> do this: "adb shell"
[15:35] <mh> ahhh ok, there is a space an my tablet called /sdcard but not a real sdcard?
[15:35] <dun1982> And this: "df -h" or "df"
[15:35] <dun1982> Paste the result.
[15:35] <ogra_> there is a mountpoint in android thats called /sdcard, yes
[15:36] <mh> ah ok wait a sec
[15:36] <dun1982> mh: just do this in this order: 1. "adb shell", 2. "df -h" or "df", 3. "paste the result here".
[15:38] <mh> Filesystem             Size   Used   Free   Blksize /dev                   360M    32K   360M   4096 /mnt/asec              360M     0K   360M   4096 /mnt/obb               360M     0K   360M   4096 /system                503M   457M    46M   4096 /data                   13G     1G    11G   4096 /cache                 521M     8M   512M   4096 /Removable             360M     0K   360M   4096 /mnt/sdcard             13G     1G    11G 
[15:38] <mh> i did df without h
[15:38] <ogra_> /mnt/sdcard             13G     1G    11G
[15:38] <ogra_> thats what you want to know
[15:38] <ogra_> 11G free
[15:41] <mh> ok, i did adb push Downloads/ubuntu-touch-tf101.zip /sdcard/. what now? now i want to flash it right?
[15:42] <ogra_> yes, and then the phablet zipfile
[15:43] <mh> ok, i do a flash with load in the bootloader and recover with cmw? or is there a way via shell?
[15:49] <zyga> jhodapp: hi
[15:52] <jhodapp> hey zyga
[15:54] <mh> cwm is always saying "can't mount /sdcard"... any idea?
[15:54] <dun1982> mh: once you have the two zip-files in the machine.
[15:55] <dun1982> Well you might need to find a cwm which is tailored for your system...
[15:55] <dun1982> your system do not have /sdcard but /mnt/sdcard instead...
[15:55] <mh> ah ok. so i will install another version. thanks
[15:56] <dun1982> Well it does not matter actually.
[15:56] <dun1982> Just mount the /mnt/sdcard, install the zip files from there and reboot. All this is done in cwm
[15:56] <dun1982> Also remember to do full wipe.
[15:57] <ogra_> it shoouldnt matter at all where your zip is
[15:57] <ogra_> you can pick it from the recovery menu
[15:57] <dun1982> ogra_: It matters where to find them :)
[15:57] <ogra_> there is a file browser for this
[15:57] <ogra_> at least in the ubuntu supplied cwm i use here
[15:58] <mh> i have cwm v3.1.0.1 ... i can't mount /mnt/sdcard doesn't appear in the menu. I have reboot, aply update from sdcard, wipe data, wipe cache, install zipe from sdcard, backup and restore, mounts and storade, advanced, power off
[15:59] <ogra_> you should have something like "flash zip from file" or so
[15:59] <ogra_> that lets you pick a zip file to flash
[15:59] <mh> nope ... sadly not
[15:59] <zyga> jhodapp: hey, I'm curious about how media frameworks on ubuntu touch is going to work like, specifically if we have a notion of a media library that has content which can be "played" by the actual media appls (gallery, music, videos)
[16:00] <ogra_> its going to work awesome
[16:00] <ogra_> :P
[16:02] <jhodapp> zyga, join #ubuntu-media
[16:02] <gaara_akash> did anyone manage to get rid of the import error? "import Ubuntu.Components 0.1" for that line?
[16:02] <gaara_akash> the QML not found error
[16:03] <zyga> jhodapp: thanks
[16:42] <mh> thanks for help! it works!
[16:48] <zAo^_> Which currentgen SoC has the best cards for Ubuntu Touch support?
[16:52]  * mpt realizes he's never known what "Call Waiting" actually is
[16:52] <mpt> praise be to Wikipedia
[16:53] <ogra_> rsalveti, HA !
[16:53] <ogra_> rsalveti, grep ro.cm.device /system/build.prop |sed -e 's/.*=//'
[16:53] <rsalveti> ogra_: cool, this file might be the one then
[16:53] <ogra_> yeah, libhybris relies on it too
[16:53] <ogra_> so we are safe assuming its always there
[16:54] <rsalveti> as long as we can access the android system partition, yes
[16:54] <rsalveti> but cool
[16:54] <ogra_> do you plan to change that ?
[16:58] <dun1982> ogra_: "so we are safe assuming its always there", that sounds lie assumption that I have heard so many f#¤"ing times in software development world :)
[16:58] <dun1982> lie => like
[16:59] <rsalveti> ogra_: we need, I might not have the time this week, so if you do, please change it :-)
[16:59] <rsalveti> I'd like a way for people to just submit a conf file as well
[16:59] <rsalveti> that matches the device id
[16:59] <rsalveti> we can have a directory as kind of a database
[17:00] <rsalveti> and source the <deviceid>.conf after finding the device id
[17:00] <rsalveti> so we don't need to change ubuntu-session or any other script later on
[17:03] <ogra_> rsalveti, heh, happy to prepare a patch (actually i would really like to rewrite that stuff in POSIX shell, it hurts my eyes every time i open it ... and it huts even more when my phone takes ages to start up :) )
[17:03] <ogra_> rsalveti, but with "do you plan to change that" i was referring to the /system mount
[17:05] <ogra_> dun1982, well, we define the system ... so if it vanmnmishes we removed it ourselves :)
[17:05] <ogra_> hmm, where do all these m's come from
[17:05] <rsalveti> ogra_: patches are always accepted :-)
[17:05] <rsalveti> ogra_: probably not, as you said, it's required by hybris as well
[17:06] <rsalveti> the libs are at the same partition
[17:06] <ogra_> yeah
[17:08] <Guest28350> uhm yeah hi, i had a question... Where can I download the developer preview of the OS? I can't seem to find a link or button
[17:09] <ogra_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/
[17:09] <ogra_> also see the install instructions as mentioned in the channel topic
[17:10] <Guest28350> thank you :)
[17:12] <Stevo_> Need some help
[17:12] <Stevo_> Anyone have a ubuntu touch sample for samsung galaxy tab2 7.0
[17:13] <ogra_> see the Devices wikipage
[17:13]  * ogra_ points to the channel topic
[17:14] <Stevo_> ok let me check it
[17:23] <bobweaver> Hello I want to daul boot my nexus 7 is there offical docs or should I just look on xda ?
[17:24] <paulk-desktop> Hi! Where can I find Ubuntu Touch images for nexus s (crespo)?
[17:24] <ogra_> bobweaver, xda, we dont support or encourage it so if it breaks you have to keep the pieces :)
[17:24] <paulk-desktop> also, any serious developer in the room?
[17:24] <dun1982> paulk-desktop: no
[17:24] <ogra_> bobweaver, note that the OTA upgrade process might completely trash it (once we implement that)
[17:25] <bobweaver> :(
[17:25] <ogra_> paulk-desktop, only funny developers here
[17:25] <dun1982> paulk-desktop: we are not serious at all. We like to tease people a lot.
[17:25] <bobweaver> I need to but different n7 then
[17:25] <paulk-desktop> okay :D
[17:25] <paulk-desktop> so basically I'm interested in graphics
[17:25] <ogra_> bobweaver, well, currently you arent in danger yet :)
[17:25] <paulk-desktop> I sorta understood that it's not Xorg
[17:25] <paulk-desktop> 1. Why not?
[17:25] <ogra_> there is no such thing like OTA upgrades ...
[17:26] <paulk-desktop> 2. Is it SurfaceFlinger then?
[17:26] <dun1982> paulk-desktop: 1. nice or truthful answer?
[17:26] <paulk-desktop> dun1982, truthful
[17:26] <ogra_> bobweaver, but it will happen at some point and it will very likely be ignorant to such custom setups
[17:26] <dun1982> paulk-desktop: 2. So you are asking what is used :)
[17:26] <paulk-desktop> dun1982, yeah, what's used then?
[17:27] <ogra_> paulk-desktop, 1. drivers 2. yes
[17:27] <bobweaver> ogra_,  yeah that is what I was thinking. Kinda hard to make things when you have no clue about the future of things
[17:27] <zAo^> For now
[17:27] <ogra_> dun1982, sorry, took the shortcut :)
[17:27] <dun1982> hehe :)
[17:27] <paulk-desktop> ogra_, dun1982, so I guess that you use the google gralloc hwcomposer and EGL libs, correct?
[17:27] <ogra_> yes ...
[17:28] <paulk-desktop> have you tried with software gl only?
[17:28] <ogra_> but SF will go away in favour of Mir
[17:28] <paulk-desktop> I'm interested in knowing whether it's worth doing a fully free software fork or not
[17:28] <ogra_> of surfaceflinger ?
[17:28] <paulk-desktop> of the system
[17:29] <paulk-desktop> Ubuntu Mobile or whatever you call it
[17:29] <ogra_> Ubuntu Touch
[17:29] <dun1982> Ubuntu touch``
[17:29] <ogra_> and it is full free software
[17:29] <paulk-desktop> ogra_, let me doubt that :)
[17:29] <ogra_> ?
[17:29] <paulk-desktop> you use CM 10.1 as a base
[17:29] <paulk-desktop> which comes with blobs
[17:29] <dun1982> Eh?
[17:29] <dun1982> With what blobs?
[17:29] <ogra_> yeah, there is no way around blobs
[17:29] <paulk-desktop> like gralloc, hwcomposer, EGL, etc
[17:29] <paulk-desktop> ogra_, sure there is
[17:29] <paulk-desktop> that's my point
[17:29] <ogra_> not in a usable way
[17:29] <paulk-desktop> I wonder whether it would be usable without blobs
[17:30] <paulk-desktop> ie: fast enough
[17:30] <ogra_> no, it wont
[17:30] <paulk-desktop> ogra_, Gnex is fast enough with no blobs with Android
[17:30] <paulk-desktop> with firefox OS too it seems
[17:30] <paulk-desktop> now I'm wondering about ubuntu touch
[17:30] <ogra_> well, Mir will fully rely on gralloc and EGL
[17:30] <paulk-desktop> ogra_, I can guess so
[17:30] <dun1982> paulk-desktop: Wonder as much as like, no one is forcing you to do anything :)
[17:30] <paulk-desktop> lol
[17:31] <ogra_> if you can emulate that properly (probably someone even did already, i havent looked at Mir at all yet) ...
[17:31] <dun1982> paulk-desktop: and btw, I have no ties with Ubuntu, except that I want it to work with my device :)
[17:31] <paulk-desktop> my point is about whether using only software GL only would work or not
[17:31] <ogra_> tvoss, ^^^
[17:31] <paulk-desktop> who's a developer then?
[17:31] <dun1982> paulk-desktop: What is a developer for you?
[17:31] <ogra_> i would bet there is a SW renderer in Mir already
[17:31] <ogra_> it wont be fun to use though
[17:31] <dun1982> paulk-desktop: Is it something that reads in your title?
[17:32] <paulk-desktop> ogra_, I don't want 3D, just fast enough 2D
[17:32] <paulk-desktop> dun1982, that means you know what it's about :)
[17:32] <ogra_> you want compisiting
[17:32] <paulk-desktop> ogra_, nope
[17:32] <paulk-desktop> if it can be avoided
[17:32] <ogra_> and you want it fast enough to be usable
[17:32] <ogra_> since all of the UI uses it
[17:32] <paulk-desktop> :/
[17:32] <paulk-desktop> so there were no tires of Ubuntu Touch on software GL only?
[17:33] <ogra_> i dont know, you would have to ask the Mir guys
[17:33] <paulk-desktop> (there is a free CPU-side lbEGL and framebuffer-only gralloc on Android, I mean with that)
[17:33] <paulk-desktop> ogra_, or see for myself
[17:33] <paulk-desktop> but I don't have any of the supported devices
[17:33] <ogra_> right, Mir code is public
[17:33] <paulk-desktop> ogra_, no, I mean by testing on a device
[17:34] <paulk-desktop> it depends a lot on the device also
[17:34] <paulk-desktop> omap4 tends to be faster than s5pc110
[17:34] <ogra_> there are about 30 devices UT runs on ...
[17:34] <paulk-desktop> and exynos4 faster than both, etc
[17:34] <paulk-desktop> I have: Nexus S, Galaxy S, Galaxy S2
[17:34] <paulk-desktop> any of them?
[17:34] <ogra_> i use an S2 here myself
[17:34] <ogra_> which model ?
[17:35] <paulk-desktop> international gsm
[17:35] <paulk-desktop> i9100
[17:35] <ogra_> yeah, same here
[17:35] <dun1982> paulk-desktop: I use gt-p6800 which is exynos4 based.
[17:35] <paulk-desktop> ogra_, any idea where to find images?
[17:35] <ogra_> look at the devices wikipage
[17:35] <ogra_> (see channel topic)
[17:35] <paulk-desktop> xda?
[17:36]  * ogra_ doesnt see xda in the topic
[17:36] <dun1982> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[17:36] <ogra_> dun1982, now you took the shortcut :P
[17:36] <dun1982> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/galaxysmtd
[17:36] <paulk-desktop> ogra_, I'm talking about the link this page refers to
[17:36] <dun1982> ogra_: that's the shortcut :)
[17:36] <ogra_> no, its i9100
[17:37] <paulk-desktop> on galaxys2 it refers to xda, correct?
[17:37] <ogra_> i think all these pages refer to some xda threads, yeah
[17:37] <dun1982> Werent you talking about this one: Samsung Galaxy S (GT-I9000)
[17:37] <ogra_> 9100
[17:37] <dun1982> Or this one: Samsung Galaxy S B (GT-I9000B)
[17:37] <dun1982> Ah, sorry :(
[17:38] <ogra_> SGS2
[17:38] <paulk-desktop> will you actually consider something cleaner than running on top of CM eventually?
[17:38] <dun1982> ogra_: maybe you should do the same thing that I did with my p6800 and put it already in sort of working state :)
[17:39] <paulk-desktop> ogra_, anyways, thanks for your help, I have to get back to studying
[17:42] <ogra_> dun1982, i'm not the porter :)
[17:42] <ogra_> i just help him
[17:42] <ogra_> i asked that he updates the wiki though
[17:43] <dun1982> Why can't you update the page?
[17:43] <ogra_> so i guess he will do it at some point
[17:43] <dun1982> Ie. I would not mind if someone else would do something with my device/repository once a while :D
[17:43] <ogra_> i could, but i dont hav ehis contact data ... or dont know which data he wants to use
[17:44] <ogra_> so i prefer to leave it to him
[17:44] <dun1982> Sure, I understand it, but with most of the devs around, it usually is so that they think only themselfs and let the rest to be figured out bysomeone else.
[17:45] <dun1982> Sorry if I sound a little bit doom and gloom, but my current worktitle puts me in so interesting discussions with guys who have been developing something specific for 10 years straight...
[17:46] <ogra_> yeah, i only have 8 under my belt in the current job :)
[17:47] <dun1982> As a dev, I like to figure out what else there, so the big bigture is very important concept for me. Btw, if interested, I could recommend https://leanpub.com/software-architecture-for-developers this book for any developer in this channel :)
[17:47] <dun1982> and the blog is even better :)
[17:48] <dun1982> ogra_: Thank god I dont have anyone directly in my control anymore. I got enough after 2 years in teamlead position where I had 29 people under me :)
[17:48] <dun1982> And 8 is actually quite much already, quite good amount anyway.
[17:49] <dun1982> I would be part of the team of 6-8 people including me, anything else and we hit huge organizational overheads soon... And communication issues :)
[17:51] <ogra_> well, my job allows me to work from home and to do communication via IRC and mail
[17:52] <dun1982> Sure, I work daily with skype, irc, webex and email. But that's not what I meant.
[17:53] <dun1982> At worst times I had customer in one city, I was in the capital of Finland, my finnish team members in middle of finland, then our indian collaques in two different cities in India.
[17:54] <dun1982> And that's fine and dandy, until people stop communicating and sharing :)
[17:55] <dun1982> ah. but new kernel is baked :)
[18:20] <tvoss> ogra_, ping
[18:41] <int3> \info
[18:46] <froek> is there anyone here who can talk to the limit of usb/flash memory device limits in ubuntu
[18:46] <froek> related to touch devices of course
[19:00] <dun1982> froek: what do you mean?
[19:11] <tvoss> paulk-desktop, ping
[19:23] <dun1982> ok, I have very specific question now. How to heck can I extract the contents of boot.img?
[19:23] <dun1982> ie. all the tools that I have tried thus far do not work at all.
[19:23] <dun1982> But I can still boot with the boot.img I currently have.
[19:28] <dank101> 100% actuate IE6 simulator
[19:28] <dank101> http://mrdoob.com/lab/javascript/effects/ie6/
[19:29] <dank101> lol
[19:38] <paulk-desktop> tvoss, pong
[19:39] <tvoss> paulk-desktop, sorry, just about to eod. can you ping me tomorrow?
[19:39] <paulk-desktop> I'll try
[19:40] <tvoss> paulk-desktop, thank you :)
[19:43] <traxmac> is there anyway to run traditional apps on the touch i.e. via some kind of qml container
[20:01] <netcurli> https://code.launchpad.net/~djfun/+junk/Akari
[20:15] <thIsgUy_> Ca anybody tell me if I'm doing anything wrong. I'm trying to make a image and this is what i see     jon@jon-NE56R:~/[target_directory]$ . build/envsetup.sh including device/htc/shootervm/vendorsetup.sh including vendor/cm/vendorsetup.sh jon@jon-NE56R:~/[target_directory]$ brunch <target>
[20:22] <dun1982> thIsgUy_: let me tell you what you should get. I'll pastebin in a moment.
[20:24] <dun1982> thIsgUy_: http://pastebin.com/sK96k8Wg
[20:24] <dun1982> Does this help you to understand what was the point?
[20:25] <thIsgUy_> let me look at it for a second
[20:26] <dank101> EVERYBODY DO THE FLOP
[20:26]  * dank101 falls
[20:28] <thIsgUy_> oh okay I think I see what i did wrong
[20:31] <ogra_> rsalveti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614709/ ... untested yet
[20:35] <dank101> is howtomen here?
[20:35] <dank101> nvm
[21:19] <thIsgUy_> what does this mean      build/core/product_config.mk:239: *** _nic.PRODUCTS.[[device/htc/shootervm/cm.mk]]: "device/htc/msm8660-common/bcm_hcd.mk" does not exist.    Thats what happens when I do brunch shootervm
[21:19] <mhall119> netcurli: you got featured: http://www.iloveubuntu.net/ubuntu-sdk-session-presents-how-write-games-qml-and-javascript
[21:26] <mikedell> hey
[21:27] <mikedell> michael@ubuntu:~$ phablet-flash -b
[21:27] <mikedell> Device detected as toroplus
[21:27] <mikedell> Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[21:27] <mikedell> Im trying to install on my samsung galaxy nexus
[21:28] <LordShadowWing> is the terminal working on the ubuntu touch OS
[21:28] <mikedell> How would i know?
[21:28] <LordShadowWing> im asking the wntire room
[21:28] <LordShadowWing> entire*
[21:28] <mikedell> oooo
[21:29] <mikedell> any ideas what that means?
[21:31] <LordShadowWing> what what means
[21:31] <mikedell>  michael@ubuntu:~$ phablet-flash -b
[21:31] <mikedell>  Device detected as toroplus
[21:31] <mikedell>  Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[21:32] <mikedell> it's a samsung galaxy nexus
[21:34] <LordShadowWing> toroplus is sprint correct?
[21:34] <LordShadowWing> touch preview only supports GSM galaxy nexus so far
[21:34] <LordShadowWing> from what i have read
[21:34] <mikedell> ugh no sprint
[21:35] <mikedell> lame
[21:41] <LordShadowWing> one reason to hate sprint
[21:53] <ogra_> rsalveti, seen the paste above ? havent tested it yet, but it should theoretically be fine and read configs from /etc/ubuntu-session.d/$device.conf
[21:54] <rsalveti> sorry not yet, let me check
[21:54] <ogra_> no hurry
[21:54] <ogra_> i wont send MPs before i have tested it
[21:55] <ogra_> and i wont test tonight :)
[21:55] <rsalveti> ogra_: cool, sounds like an improvement :-)
[21:56] <ogra_> :)
[21:56] <rsalveti> then people can just create config files
[21:56] <ogra_> yeah
[21:56] <rsalveti> and even if not sending that to us, they will still be able to update the package
[21:56] <ogra_> right, just drop it in the dir
[21:57] <ogra_> egtting the bash array stuff ported to POSIX costed me some hair though :)
[21:57] <ogra_> *getting
[21:57] <rsalveti> lol, yeah
[21:57] <rsalveti> it's quite a pain indeed
[21:58] <LordShadowWing> how do i access the file system of the phone on my ubuntu desktop
[21:58] <ogra_> see the release notes
[21:58] <ogra_> there are instructions
[21:59] <ogra_> (see the channel topic for the link)
[22:13] <LordShadowWing> it is running better than the last time i flashed it
[22:18] <LordShadowWing> ok, Now I want to install a different recovery is it possible to flash just the recovery using ubuntu terminsl and ADB
[22:35] <LordShadowWing> figured it out
[22:44] <LordShadowWing> successfully flashed CWM and CM10
[22:45] <LordShadowWing> had to flash CWM through fastboot and had to flash CM 10 through sideload on CWM
[22:55] <thIsgUy> You guys is the local manifest file and the manifest.xml file the same thing?
[22:56] <lilstevie> thIsgUy, no
[22:57] <RobbyF> Are any of the daily apps launched from the ui yet?
[22:57] <LordShadowWing> flashing back to android in order to run a music player
[22:58] <thIsgUy> dang I been changing around the manifest file. Ok so where is the local manifest file because I'm not seeing it anywhere
[22:58] <LordShadowWing> im going to wait till it enters beta
[23:30] <thIsgUy> Do I need to download another local manifest? because I'm trying to make a image for the evo 3d but it keep giving me some kind of error when I do brunch shootervm (evo v same as 3d) it say manually add something to local manifest but I can't find that file. All I see if manifest.xml
[23:54] <mathomastech> Hey all. I am trying to test an Ubuntu Touch app I wrote on my Nexus 7, but it is prompting me for a password. I never set up a password and the only thing I could find online is that the default is "phablet" but it does not work.
[23:54] <mathomastech> Anyone run into this issue?