[00:00] <Salt> I'm an alright one of those, just been stretched too thin too long
[00:00] <Salt> I'm an elongated rubberband
[00:02] <valorie> <3 Salt
[00:02] <valorie> off to dinner for me
[00:02] <Salt> toodles
[00:10]  * seattlegaucho is a really bad organizer ... still the only one available to run the MySQL Meetup
[00:10] <Salt> that's probably the category I've fallen into now...
[00:10] <Salt> v_v
[00:25] <thefinn93> looks like someone said my name a while back but i dont know how to scroll in this new curses IRC client
[00:26] <thefinn93> oh there we go
[00:27]  * seattlegaucho .oO( time to close shop and commute back to the TV )
[01:13] <valorie> thefinn93: "new curses IRC client"?
[01:17] <thefinn93> ncurses*
[01:18] <thefinn93> specifically, weechat
[01:18] <thefinn93> the interface is confuzing because no mouse
[01:21] <valorie> ah
[01:21]  * valorie uses konversation
[01:21] <valorie> love it
[01:22] <valorie> do not want cli IRC client
[01:22] <valorie> I like pretty
[01:23] <valorie> cli is great for some stuff, like installing and building stuff
[01:29] <thefinn93> i used XChat for the longest time
[01:29] <thefinn93> but I've been using a lot of laggy connections
[01:29] <thefinn93> ie. at school 
[01:29] <thefinn93> and mosh deals with them amazingly
[01:29] <thefinn93> while they would cause IRC clients to crash and burn
[01:32] <valorie> I hate xchat
[01:32] <valorie> hated it in windows, hate it in linux
[01:32] <valorie> konvi rocks
[01:33] <thefinn93> what's wrong with XChat?
[01:33] <thefinn93> i loved it when I used it
[01:38] <valorie> matter of taste, I suppose
[01:38] <valorie> counter-intuitive to me, as well as ugly
[01:41] <thefinn93> huh
[01:42] <thefinn93> yeah it was pretty ugly
[01:42] <valorie> given options, I choose pretty
[01:43] <valorie> which is why I love KDE
[01:43] <valorie> so many choices, all beautiful
[01:43] <thefinn93> lol
[01:44] <valorie> truly, that's why I chose KDE over GNOME at first in linux
[01:44] <valorie> now I'm at home in the community
[01:44] <valorie> still prefer the look as well
[01:44] <valorie> don't like the Unity look either
[01:45] <valorie> plus Ubuntu politics seem self-destructive
[01:56] <thefinn93> yeah ubuntu is going nuts
[01:57] <thefinn93> Unity, the amazon spyware, and the community blowing up
[01:57] <thefinn93> what else am i missing..
[01:57] <thefinn93> it's getting a little out of hand
[01:57] <thefinn93> i shan't be returning
[02:10] <valorie> in kubuntu we have none of these problems
[02:11] <valorie> we've always had our own Kubuntu Council to set policy
[02:11] <valorie> of course we all participate in the larger community as well
[02:11] <valorie> for instance I'm also in Ubuntu Women, as well as here
[02:12] <valorie> but for me the unity problems, spyware and the whole "Mark being a bit nuts lately" problems are orthogonal
[02:12] <valorie> I'm sorry they are happening, but they don't affect me personally
[02:13] <thefinn93> yeah, definately
[02:13] <valorie> and the vUDS was interesting
[02:13] <thefinn93> I'm hoping GNOME Ubuntu or whatever it's called follows in Kubuntu's tracks
[02:13]  * valorie presented at the Xubuntu session
[02:13] <valorie> all of us flavors do have many common interests, true
[02:14] <valorie> I have all the flavors in my ktorrent
[02:14] <valorie> oddly enough, lubuntu leads with the most downloads
[02:15] <valorie> absolutely zero with basic Ubuntu
[02:15] <valorie> torrents are no longer listed in their main dl pages
[02:19] <thefinn93> who's main dl page doesnt list torrents?
[02:27] <valorie> ubuntu
[02:27] <valorie> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[02:28] <valorie> you have to drill down rather far to get to the torrent links
[02:28] <thefinn93> oh yeah
[02:29] <thefinn93> when they hid the torrent links i resorted to just googling ubuntu torrent
[02:29] <thefinn93> then picking the ubuntu.com page
[02:31] <valorie> it might be on the releases page or something
[02:31] <valorie> yes, I did that as well, but I don't think I'll bother next time
[02:31] <valorie> zero usage
[02:31] <valorie> that's not happened before
[07:59] <Salt> thefinn93, you forgot about the aggressive donation requests and dropping X
[08:22] <bkerensa> mm
[21:16] <seattlegaucho> Salt: the other day you were talking about using a bouncer ... do you host your own or you use a hosted one?
[21:17] <Salt> host my own
[21:17] <Salt> heavily recommend ZNC
[21:43] <bkerensa> people.ubuntu-oregon.org is a ZNC service
[21:43] <bkerensa> :D
[21:52] <Salt> cool
[21:52] <Salt> if we could reform -pnw and have -or, -wa, -ak all work on things together, I think that would be beneficial
[22:12] <thefinn93> ^
[22:12] <thefinn93> +1 for ZNC
[22:44] <seattlegaucho> bkerensa: I may sound like a n00b ... but how do I use it?
[22:50] <thefinn93> i assume he's gotta set you up an account
[22:50] <seattlegaucho> he should advertise here as well: http://wiki.znc.in/Providers
[22:50] <thefinn93> bkerensa: what are you running on that server? ZN?
[22:50] <thefinn93> ZNC*
[22:51] <thefinn93> eh i think it's just for Ubuntu related people
[22:51] <thefinn93> not really a public free-for-all servic
[22:52] <shirgall_> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ is hard to remember?
[22:52] <thefinn93> harder than Ubuntu.com -> download
[22:53] <thefinn93> especially when they dont advertise that
[22:53] <shirgall> thefinn93: I admit I use http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ more often :)
[22:53] <thefinn93> I tried Ubuntu Gnome
[22:53] <thefinn93> quite liked it
[22:53] <thefinn93> definately my next oS
[22:54] <Salt> give Pear OS a try
[22:54] <thefinn93> what is Pear OS?
[22:54] <Salt> it's based on ubuntu and their logo is a pear with a bite taken out
[22:54] <thefinn93> oh shit bus is at my stop, bbl
[23:03] <thefinn93> annd we're back
[23:03]  * thefinn93 googles PearOS
[23:05] <thefinn93> it looks like Mac OS with a badly drawn pear instead of an apple
[23:05] <thefinn93> Salt: lol wtf is this
[23:06] <thefinn93> also if you want a BNC i've got em hot and now
[23:06] <Salt> heh
[23:06] <thefinn93> oh wait that was seattlegaucho asking
[23:06] <thefinn93> seattlegaucho: if you want a ZNC i've got em hot and now
[23:07] <Salt> yeah, a newer Lindows :P
[23:07] <thefinn93> although waiting for bkerensa is fine (then you get the fancy rDNS, not my name)
[23:07] <seattlegaucho> still thinking about it ... I have a desktop with 32G of RAM and 8 cores ... which most of the time just sits there
[23:07] <seattlegaucho> thinking of firing up a VM and run my own
[23:07] <thefinn93> fuck, install it there!
[23:08] <thefinn93> no need for a full VM (assuming you run linux)
[23:11] <seattlegaucho> running linux ... I like to create small appliances using ubuntu server for things like this
[23:11] <seattlegaucho> I have my own little 'cloud formation'
[23:11] <thefinn93> eh yeah i could see that
[23:12] <seattlegaucho> keeps things really out of the reach of the craziness I might be doing reg packages on my desktop
[23:21] <thefinn93> yeah
[23:29] <thefinn93> what's everyone's favorite dropbox alternative?
[23:30] <thefinn93> as in self hosted
[23:30] <thefinn93> open source
[23:30] <thefinn93> linux friendly
[23:30] <thefinn93> all that shit