[00:00] <trism> ozzloy: f3-f4 does forward/back a window https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Byobu#Key_Bindings
[00:02] <ozzloy> trism, not quite what i want, when i do that, i lose the split
[00:03] <ozzloy> trism, the next window doesn't have a split in it.  i want to change what's in the lower half, display the shell i was working on from another window
[00:03] <ozzloy> trism, thanks though
[00:05] <bull3trulz> ok i need help i install a dockbarx applet for xfce panel andit is not in there
[00:06] <ozzloy> aha, ctrl-[f3|f4] is what i want... kinda
[00:07] <ozzloy> no, no it isn't
[00:08] <dward> my wireless card needs to be manually loaded on boot. i've been messing with my initramfs but just changing locations of things not configurations, could i have done something wrong?
[00:10] <dward> vague i know, but my question is, does initramfs tell what modules the kernel should load, or does that happen after the temporary ram kernel is loaded?
[00:10] <dr_willis> bull3trulz:  tried the dockbarx  ppa? or is that feature just not in the ppa?
[00:10] <bull3trulz> dr_willis, https://plus.google.com/110582468951930692841/posts/KogHZaufjc8
[00:11] <dr_willis> bull3trulz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/new-look-dockbarx-hits-ppa
[00:11] <dr_willis> if you enable the ppa. you could use the build-deps option of apt-get to pull in all needed developer dependencies
[00:11] <dr_willis> to make it easier to compile
[00:12] <bull3trulz> dr_willis, no i have dockbarx installed but the plugin is what i had to compile i did make install and stuff nut it is not there when i choose add new item to the panel
[00:13] <OerHeks> bull3trulz, restart the panel, or logout/login could help
[00:13] <trism> ozzloy: looks like in tmux you need to do something like break-pane, join-pane: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/14300/tmux-move-window-to-pane
[00:13] <bull3trulz> OerHeks, tried even restarted didnt work
[00:16] <on3453v3n> hello , how i can hide a hotspot
[00:16] <ozzloy> tmux?
[00:16] <ozzloy> when did byobu start defaulting to tmux?
[00:17] <ozzloy> trism, also, thanks again for looking into that
[00:19] <Ziber> I know I can use @monthly for a cronjob, but how would I do that with syntax?
[00:20] <jrib> Ziber: man 5 crontab explains
[00:21] <on3453v3n> is posibl to hide a hotspot?
[00:22] <Ziber> jrib: 0 0 * */1 * /path/to/command?
[00:33] <sarnold> what's the new way to do this? gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences auto-raise false
[00:34] <egc> blah
[00:36] <kirkland> ozzloy: with the byobu 5.x series, which is in 12.04
[00:37] <histo> Don't really understand why people are so hungup on byobu vs screen. Screen is tried and true and just works
[00:39]  * rob_p is a screen fan...
[00:39] <ozzloy> histo, i'm hung up on it currently because tmux doesn't work like i'm used to
[00:39] <ozzloy> it seems like the major drive behind tmux is "i want screen but i don't like GNU"
[00:40] <dr_willis> cant say ive had amy issues with  screen. tmux. or bybu
[00:40] <kirkland> tmux is far more elegantly designed
[00:40] <sarnold> ozzloy: probably code simplification is the larger drive; screen does a lot of things no one needs it to do any more (serial support! wow)
[00:40] <dr_willis> someone had a screen bug the other day in here i recall..
[00:40] <kirkland> nothing against screen, but that code base is 25+ years old, and basically unmaintained
[00:41] <kirkland> tmux is modern, fresh, and very, very clean, with an active maintainer
[00:41] <histo> kirkland: yeah ls is old also we should just get rid of that
[00:41] <erythrean> I'm trying to install kubuntu onto my mac 10.4. I tried both the 32-bit and the mac iso's but the computer won't boot into either when I hold down C at startup.
[00:41] <kirkland> ozzloy: here's the announcement moving byobu from screen -> tmux as a default: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/12/byobu-5-released.html
[00:41] <dr_willis> i miss "twin" .. its not even in the repos any more.
[00:42] <kirkland> histo: that's textbook trolling :-)
[00:42] <bekks> kirkland: So is screen. It is support by major distributors, behaves the same across various implementations, etc.
[00:42] <bekks> *supported
[00:42] <fhf> erythrean: 10.04 is too old go get 12.04
[00:43] <sarnold> fhf: I think the "10.4" identifies the mac..
[00:43] <bekks> fhf: Thats not true. 10.04 is LTS, 12.04 is LTS, and the LTS update is supported.
[00:43] <kirkland> bekks: that's arguable, from my perspective, having maintained the screen package in Ubuntu...  12.04's screen contains 48 patches with 20,000 lines of diff's
[00:43] <fhf> sarnold: didnt used mac so i dont know.
[00:43] <kirkland> bekks: because upstream screen hasn't released in 5+ years
[00:43] <sarnold> bekks: heh, I think because the distros are tired of all the wonky code in screen is part of the reason why tmux is so popular -- it does so much less than screen...
[00:44] <kirkland> bekks: it is "supported" (ie, I'm one of the people providing that support), and in my opinion, it's basically unsupportable going forward, when there is a viable alternative (tmux)
[00:44] <bekks> kirkland: Well, even without a "current upstream" - it is a pretty well supported software on various platforms, whilst tmux e.g. isnt.
[00:46] <leptone> following this for 64 bit
[00:46] <leptone> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/connecting-to-your-apple-time-capsule-in-ubuntu
[00:46] <leptone> seeing this:http://paste.ubuntu.com/5612394/
[00:47] <sarnold> leptone: tar xf afpfs...
[00:47] <sarnold> leptone: z says 'gzip', but you've got a bz2 file there -- that'd be j. But tar autodetects compression type these days and you can leave it off entirely. :)
[00:49] <leptone> sarnold, thx.
[00:50] <leptone> seeing this at the next step...http://paste.ubuntu.com/5612399/
[00:50] <sarnold> leptone: hahaha, that looks like an em-dash rather than two hyphens
[00:51] <sarnold> leptone: are you copy-psating from a wordpress blaahg? iirc those _destroy_ punctuation marks like - and ' and " and so forth.
[00:51] <sarnold> leptone: anyway, that'd be ./configure --prefix=/usr
[00:51] <leptone> sarnold, ok silly me. thx!
[00:51] <sarnold> leptone: you don't stand a chance when working with wordpress blogs. :)
[00:57] <userUbu0804> Hi, does anyone know how can I run Xubuntu from a USB stick ?
[00:59] <Nothing_Much> How do I re enable Unity 3D from LLVMPIPE?
[01:04] <ozzloy> kirkland, oh, that's good that it's motivated by something other than "durr GPL is viral hurr"
[01:04] <ozzloy> kirkland, i like living in this world better than the world i thought i lived in
[01:04] <ozzloy> kirkland, (re: tmux v screen)
[01:05] <ozzloy> i got called away for a bit
[01:05] <histo> !usb | user
[01:06] <ozzloy> kirkland, thanks for doing the support, btw.  that's cool that i got to talk directly to you
[01:06] <kirkland> ozzloy: no problem, cheers
[01:07] <kirkland> ozzloy: byobu, fwiw, is GPLv3
[01:07] <ozzloy> yeah, i noticed that
[01:07] <ozzloy> so i figured that wasn't byobu's motivation
[01:08] <kirkland> ozzloy: not at all;  I've been trying to "fix" some broken parts of screen for years;  had nearly given up until I learned about tmux
[01:08] <ozzloy> are the people in charge of screen just too busy with other stuff or ... what's going on there?
[01:09] <|Anthony|> what's the issue with screen ozzloy
[01:09] <pragmaticenigma> it's quite possible that the people in charge don't feel there are any improvements to be made?
[01:11] <ozzloy> |Anthony|, i'm not sure.  possibly what pragmaticenigma said
[01:12] <ozzloy> (i'm really not the right person, but here's my understanding) byobu wants to do stuff that isn't currently possible with screen.  byobu's people tried to improve screen, but got nowhere.  tmux does what the byobu people want, so byobu's using tmux
[01:13] <kirkland> ozzloy: but byobu still supports screen too :-)
[01:13] <sku11knight> hey guys, I'm running 12.04. Anybody know how to remove the gray bar on the top of the screen?
[01:13] <skypce> hello people
[01:14] <sam113101> hi
[01:14] <skypce> i have a problem with my ubuntu 12.04 , laggy mouse , only works fine with acpi=off or nosmp in grub
[01:14] <skypce> the laggy mouse is when the pc has inactivity and back to use
[01:14] <skypce> i have a compaq cq 56 126la
[01:15] <ozzloy> kirkland, oh, but the default was changed to tmux.  i thought it was changed to tmux because of some feature lacking in screen
[01:15] <ozzloy> is that not the case?
[01:16] <kirkland> ozzloy: you can run either byobu-screen or byobu-tmux or just "byobu"
[01:16] <ozzloy> it's more that screen hasn't had a release in forever?
[01:16] <kirkland> ozzloy: if you run byobu-screen, you end up in byobu, but with screen running in the background
[01:16] <kirkland> ozzloy: if you run byobu-tmux, you run with tmux running in the background
[01:16] <ozzloy> yeah, i get that
[01:16] <ozzloy> i can switch between the two.  yes.
[01:16] <kirkland> ozzloy: if you just run byobu, you run the backend that is selected using byobu-select-backend
[01:16] <kirkland> ozzloy: okay
[01:17] <sku11knight> any ideas re my question about top gray bar
[01:18] <ozzloy> sku11knight, you might have luck with unity configuration settings?
[01:18] <sku11knight> ozzloy: I was able to go through config settings to remove the launcher but the top gray bar is a mystery.
[01:19] <ozzloy> sku11knight, that top bar is part of "unity" and there are configurations for it, but there are also unity configurers you can get in addition to default ubuntu's unity configurator
[01:19] <dr_willis> !find twin
[01:19] <dr_willis> Hmm.. seems twin still is not in the repos. ;(    http://sourceforge.net/projects/twin/   sort of a neat alternative to screen/tmux
[01:20] <dr_willis> bbl
[01:20] <ozzloy> kirkland, the motivation for switching to tmux as default was the difference in development activity between tmux and screen, right?
[01:21] <ozzloy> (i just read that blog post)
[01:21] <kirkland> ozzloy: right
[01:21] <kirkland> ozzloy: 12.04 is an lts, which means that its supported until 2017
[01:21] <ozzloy> no specific feature, but reason to believe that maybe someday there will be
[01:21] <ozzloy> dang
[01:21] <kirkland> ozzloy: well, I have a slew of features that byobu uses in tmux which aren't available in screen
[01:21] <ozzloy> that's a long time
[01:22] <ozzloy> oh?  like what?
[01:22] <kirkland> ozzloy: if you're in byobu-tmux, press shift-f2, and then ctrl-f2;  and then press shift-up/down/left/right
[01:22] <kirkland> ozzloy: splitting kinda sucks in screen, and it's never going to get any better
[01:23] <leptone> sarnold, is there a way i can make it mount automatically all the time with out opening the terminal?
[01:23] <ozzloy> kirkland, ah
[01:24] <ozzloy> kirkland, this splitting and moving between splits i do all the time in screen.  is the problem that you can't give it those shortcuts?
[01:24] <ozzloy> er... keybindings?
[01:24] <kirkland> ozzloy: nope;  the same shortcuts should work in byobu-screen too
[01:24] <ozzloy> i've never tried
[01:24] <kirkland> ozzloy: but the problem is that each split in screen isn't really a new shell
[01:25] <kirkland> its just another view of an existing shell
[01:25] <ozzloy> hah, that's actually why i first came in here
[01:25] <ozzloy> i was kinda annoyed at that
[01:26] <kirkland> ozzloy: well there you go :-)  me too
[01:26] <ozzloy> er... the other way around
[01:26] <ozzloy> possibly because i'm used to the way screen does it
[01:27] <ozzloy> more importantly, i wanted to change the session displayed in one half of the split
[01:28] <ozzloy> thanks again.  this is cool talking directly to you
[01:29] <ozzloy>  is that unicode?
[01:29] <limac> how can i check the usb device names...like the /dev/ttyUSB0 etc? what command?
[01:30] <ozzloy> limac, maybe: ls /dev/tty*|grep USB
[01:30] <ozzloy> not quite sure what you mean by "check the usb device names"
[01:31] <limac> ozzloy: for instance i have something connected to /dev/ttyACM0 but i can't find that in /dev/
[01:32] <ozzloy> limac, is it an arduino?
[01:32] <limac> yes
[01:32] <ozzloy> limac, idk, not sure how to hlep
[01:32] <ozzloy> help*
[01:32] <ozzloy> cool!
[01:32] <limac> no problem, thanks for you time!
[01:32] <ozzloy> my arduino sometimes gets crazy with power
[01:33] <limac> what do you mean?
[01:33] <ozzloy> so i have to disconnect and reconnect and that seems to work
[01:33] <ozzloy> it goes down and back up because the power to it isn't solid
[01:33] <limac> hmm...as in you don't get power in the arduino?
[01:33] <ozzloy> yeah
[01:33] <ozzloy> not sure exactly what causes it
[01:34] <iIlL10Oo> what is metacity's compositing manager , can I disable it ?
[01:34] <limac> ozzloy: that's an odd problem...i have never encountered it. not sure what's wrong.
[01:35] <limac> did it detect the correct serial port?
[01:35] <ozzloy> yeah, i can connect to it, see feedback from the arduino, but sometimes it just dies
[01:36] <alexis> hello
[01:36] <Guest6109> alguien de chile
[01:37] <expoo> ello
[01:37] <limac> ozzloy: i'm not sure what could be the problem then
[01:37] <Guest6109> hello expoo
[01:37] <Guest6109> que tal
[01:37] <expoo> does anyone know how to silence the /whois
[01:37] <expoo> for oneself
[01:38] <expoo> i tried the "/mode +i"
[01:38] <ozzloy> limac, me neither.  i'm still not too familiar with hardware.  it's scary to me
[01:39] <limac> ozzloy: lol, i'm trying to hack a hardware here...
[01:42] <shadowgun> limac: what hardware?
[01:42] <limac> shadowgun: a toy robotic arm so that i can fully control it over serial port + arduino
[01:43] <limac> well actually over my web server -> serial port -> arduino
[01:43] <shadowgun> iirc, arduino is the i/o board of raspberry pi
[01:43] <bcbc2> away not here
[01:43] <limac> but i want to add the xbee wireless modules...so i need to figure out the serial communication business
[01:44] <limac> isn't arduino and raspberry pi unrelated? i thought arduino was a separate thing of its own
[01:45] <shadowgun> they always appear together
[01:46] <shadowgun> i will buy korean arm development borads, because raspberry pi is too slow for me
[01:47] <shadowgun> there are many raspberry pi + arduino tutorial videos on utube
[01:47] <fuhreal> Anyone running an Nvidia card with Nvidia binary drivers?  For some reason my resolution is stuck at 640x480 when i hit the login screen but if i enter a shell (CTRL+ALT+F1) it is the correct res.
[01:57] <MoPac> So I'm trying to disable global menubar integration in LibreOffice 4.0 without having to remove all of libreoffice-gtk just to do it.  Could someone point me to where program-specific GTK files would be sotred so I could look at selectively deleting?
[01:58] <fuhreal> \part
[01:58] <fuhreal> oops
[01:58] <fuhreal> hehe
[02:00] <ksanchez> chez
[02:01] <acovrig> can I log rsync transactions (via ssh) as a server?
[02:02] <Oris> Anyone familiar with GeoPHP/GEOS?  I just compiled and installed GEOS, but Drupal status report still says GEOS was not found.
[02:06] <kirkland> ozzloy: yep, tmux supports unicode and utf-8 in the status bar, screen does not
[02:06] <acovrig> I know I can log sftp transfers by adding '-l VERBOSE' to my 'Subsystem sftp' line, how do I do that for rsync?
[02:06] <kirkland> ozzloy: that was actually the patch I was working on screen, when I discovered that another screen user, years ago, had submitted a patch to screen to add unicode/utf8 support in the status bar
[02:06] <kirkland> ozzloy: and that patch had been ignored for ~4 years
[02:07] <kirkland> ozzloy: it was at that point that I had realized that new changes to screen simply weren't ever going to happen
[02:09] <seumas> :)
[02:10] <sku11knight> hey guys, whats the best way to auto start a bash script on boot?
[02:11] <dr_willis> sku11knight:  what is the script doing?
[02:11] <sku11knight> starting some node servers
[02:11] <dr_willis> one way - /etc/rc.local sku11knight
[02:12] <dr_willis> you may wan t to look  into upstart and make an actual service to  do  the job
[02:12] <sku11knight> that's what my brother said, but i was unable to find where upstart was exactly
[02:12] <dr_willis> !upstart
[02:13] <dr_willis> look at the 'upstart cookbook'     b ut for a simple case.. rc.local shold work fine
[02:14] <ozzloy> kirkland, woow, that's a long time.  now i don't feel so bad about some of my projects
[02:15] <sku11knight> dr_willis : can I just write a .conf file to just do an exec?
[02:15] <sku11knight> i mean, just that one line?
[02:16] <claptop> cron job :p
[02:17] <wildstrangething> I have my website files located at /var/www/mywebsite and some files at /var/www/photos. I want to disable ext4 journaling on that partition. Is it advisable to disable journaling for my main website files too?
[02:19] <wildstrangething> Hey guys, heres a question: I have /var/www/mywebsite and /var/www/media on the same ext4 filesystem. Daily deletion of many tiny files at /var/www/media seems very slow and hogs my IO!! I want to disable ext4 journaling for the filesystem, is it advisable to disable journaling for the main website files at /var/www/laravel too?
[02:23] <miroesq> i'm installing a package that really has no clear directions. it is saying that a requirement for all flavors of linux is kernel-devel, but I do not see that for Ubuntu only redhat. is that correct or am I off?
[02:26] <dr_willis> miroesq:  theres the kernel -headers package on ubuntu that some things need.
[02:27] <dr_willis> miroesq:  what are you instggalling exactly?
[02:27] <miroesq> sangoma wanpipe drivers and freetdm then later FreeSWITCH. thanks for the info
[02:27] <prik> hello good morning
[02:27] <dr_willis> never heard of any of them. You might want to check  the askubuntu.com site
[02:28] <Splendor> Does anyone have any experience with Ubuntu on an ARM Chromebook?
[02:28] <miroesq> dr_willis: thank you
[02:28] <dr_willis> Splendor:  theres #ubuntu-arm that may  have some people if no one  here does.
[02:28] <prik> jhjh
[02:28] <Splendor> dr_willis: thanks!
[02:29] <usr13> wildstrangething: no
[02:29] <wildstrangething> usr13: why is that so
[02:36] <nonuby> will there be a clean path to upgrade from 13.04b1 to 13.04rtm? (is that how it was with 12.04 etc..) or is it pave/format time at these junctions?
[02:37] <usr13> wildstrangething: Because it's just not necessary, IMO.
[02:37] <somsip> !13.04 | nonuby
[02:37] <usr13> wildstrangething: I don't see any advantage in doing it.
[02:40] <Aliengel> Hi, is there a function that restore the windows session i opened after i reboot the PC? 12.10
[02:41] <alexandros_c> hello I need some help my computer tried to install kernel 3.5.0-26-generic but it failed and now I can'r install installed anything because it tries to reinstall that kernel everytime. Any suggestion on how to get rid of the improperly install kernel.
[02:43] <usr13> alexandros_c: sudo apt-get -f
[02:43] <wildstrangething> usr13: will setting data=writeback for ext4 make deletes of many 25KB files much faster?
[02:44] <wildstrangething> right now journalling is hogging my IO completely and my server slows to a crawl
[02:46] <dr_willis> i thought journalling  reduced that.. because it  put a bunch of little writes into a big write.. ;)
[02:46] <usr13> wildstrangething: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/ext4.txt
[02:47] <alexandros_c> usr13,  that is not working it is just printing the help menu
[02:47] <usr13> alexandros_c: sudo apt-get install -f
[02:49] <alexandros_c> usr13,  the install is still failing, is there a way to remove it?
[02:49] <veryhappy> hi guys i need your help on the NetworkManager, it says: wired network not managed but i can only get it running if i edit the file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and set [ifupdown] to managed=true, but then i have 2 interfaces in my list: ifupdown and my wired network connection but i only want to have my wired network connection, if i change the file again it's disabled again, i...
[02:49] <veryhappy> ...only want to have my wired interface in my list, what can i do?
[02:50] <usr13> alexandros_c: Yes, as long as it's not the one your booting to now.  uname -a  #See which one it is your booting to now.
[02:50] <alexandros_c> no it is not
[02:50] <alexandros_c> it never reached that part of the install
[02:50] <usr13> alexandros_c: Sure, just apt-get remove it
[02:51] <usr13> alexandros_c: But, why did it fail?  Which kernel is it?
[02:51] <usr13> alexandros_c: What version of ubuntu do you have installed?
[02:51] <alexandros_c> lubuntu
[02:51] <alexandros_c> 12.10
[02:52] <alexandros_c> 3.5.0-26
[02:52] <alexandros_c> my current kernel is 3.5.0-25
[02:52] <usr13> alexandros_c: You can remove any kernel you want, as long as you have a working one to boot to.
[02:53] <alexandros_c> usr13, apt-get remove fails
[02:53] <usr13> alexandros_c: What is the error?
[02:53] <usr13> alexandros_c: pastebinit
[02:53] <alexandros_c> it is saying it can't locate the package
[02:54] <usr13> alexandros_c: What command did you use?
[02:55] <wildstrangething> usr13: When deleting many small files, Im getting 99% IO usage: http://i.stack.imgur.com/PmQUL.png
[02:56] <wildstrangething> jdb2 seems to be hogging all the IO
[02:56] <veryhappy> please anyone help me with my NetworkManager, thanks.
[02:57] <usr13> wildstrangething: Maybe your out of inodes?
[02:58] <wildstrangething> usr13: inode usage is 7%
[02:58] <wildstrangething> on that filesystem
[02:58] <wildstrangething> under 12% for every filesystem
[02:58] <usr13> so you compared df to df -i ?
[02:58] <wildstrangething> yup
[02:59] <Hyperiant> Modprobe is denying that I have fglrx installed, but apt-get says i have newest version; how do I get Ubuntu to see and use fglrx?
[02:59] <usr13> alexandros_c: Give me the exact command you used?
[02:59] <wildstrangething> usr13: http://i.stack.imgur.com/ZKrLh.png
[03:00] <usr13> wildstrangething: I wonder if it's a hardware issue?
[03:00] <danman1453> Is there some way to turn off the cursor sticking when scrolling from screen to screen on a multihead server?
[03:01] <Hyperiant> danman1453: disable xinerama
[03:01] <usr13> wildstrangething: What kind of drive is it?
[03:01] <danman1453> I am using twinview
[03:02] <alexandros_c> usr13, sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic linux-image-generic linux-image-extra-3.5.0-26-generic
[03:02] <danman1453> Xinerama is disabled.
[03:02] <Hyperiant> danman1453: turn off display snap under system settings -> display
[03:04] <danman1453> Hmmm.... didnt see that, i will have to look. Thanks. But, ubuntu only sees one screen. Its a dual head card. Would the option still be there?
[03:04] <dr_willis> twinview is basically xinerama+extra stuff. ;)
[03:04] <alexandros_c> usr13, the error is reading files list for package  'linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic' Input/ouput error dpkg return error code (2)
[03:04] <usr13> alexandros_c:  ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list  #See what kernels you have installed
[03:04] <dr_willis> it should ssee it as 2 moniotrs danman1453  so it should be there.. it is on mine
[03:04] <alexandros_c> ok
[03:05] <danman1453> I will look.
[03:05] <veryhappy> ok i see nobody on here has a solution for my problem. take care
[03:06] <wildstrangething> usr13: 2tb sata3 hdd
[03:06] <usr13> wildstrangething: Can you run smartct against it?
[03:06] <usr13> smartct -a /dev/sdx
[03:07] <alexandros_c> usr13, linux-image-extra-3.5.0-26-generic is present along with the others
[03:07] <usr13> alexandros_c: Try removing only one at a time.
[03:07] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: I have returned with further information on my terrible fglrx bug, if you care to take a crack at it
[03:07] <alexandros_c> usr13, I did same error
[03:08] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  i only hace one amd video machine.. and it hasent even been turned on in months.. so i rarely  mess with fglrx
[03:08] <usr13> alexandros_c: sudo apt-get update
[03:09] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  you might want to make note of it on the forums, or askubuntu.com if you can find a proper thread about the topic
[03:11] <wildstrangething> usr13: did the test, dont seem to have any errors. http://paste.laravel.com/kkT
[03:12] <alexandros_c> usr13, I did it but was interrupted by an update
[03:13] <usr13> wildstrangething: hdparm -i /dev/sd?
[03:13] <wildstrangething> usr13: http://paste.laravel.com/kkU
[03:14] <wildstrangething> usr13: its 2 x 2tb sata3 hdd in raid-1 mirror
[03:15] <usr13> wildstrangething: I dono ....
[03:15] <usr13> alexandros_c: What?
[03:15] <usr13> alexandros_c: Can you elaborate just a bit on that last response?
[03:16] <dr_willis> the update was interrupted by  an update?
[03:16] <wildstrangething> usr13: no problem, i guess its just too many files to delete
[03:16] <alexandros_c> usr13, THE software updater interrupted the update
[03:17] <usr13> alexandros_c: Ok, I'm lost....
[03:18] <knob> Hello... if I were going to connect to an Ubuntu machine via SSH... which port would she have open?
[03:18] <usr13> knob: 22
[03:18] <knob> I have a machine on my network, yet... not sure which port to try and connect
[03:18] <knob> 22
[03:18] <knob> ok
[03:18] <knob> thanks usr13
[03:18] <knob> =)
[03:18] <FloodBot1> knob: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:18] <alexandros_c> usr13, the seconf time it said I had to run dpkg --configure -a
[03:18] <dr_willis> ssh defaults to 22 anyway..
[03:18] <knob> Sorry floodbot...
[03:18] <usr13> alexandros_c: So do it.
[03:18] <alexandros_c> usr13, but it still fails
[03:19] <usr13> alexandros_c: sudo dpkg --configure -a   fails?
[03:19] <usr13> alexandros_c: What error do you get?
[03:19] <knob> hmm... the machine rejected the connection attempt to port 22
[03:19] <alexandros_c> usr13, I am unable to complete any updates because that broken kernel install.
[03:19] <knob> this is a fresh install of ubuntu's latest release
[03:19] <knob> Should port 22 be open?
[03:19] <knob> Or is there... another way of connecting?
[03:19] <usr13> knob: yes
[03:20] <knob> I only have the network... no video monitor
[03:20] <usr13> knob: Is openssh-server installed on the server end?
[03:20] <knob> I don't know... I just installed it as it came from the factory (Ubuntu)
[03:20] <alexandros_c> usr13,  that command tries to install the broken kernel but fails and ends
[03:20] <knob> So I'm not sure if... it should be there?
[03:20] <usr13> knob: Then do   sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:21] <usr13> alexandros_c: pastebinit
[03:21] <knob> But... I... can't... I just have the network cable plugged into it
[03:21] <dr_willis> how did you install it then knob ?
[03:21] <usr13> alexandros_c: This PC does have a connection to the internet, right?
[03:21] <knob> I dropped an image into an SDcard
[03:21] <knob> popped that into the embedded machine, and powered her up
[03:21] <alexandros_c> usr13,  ok give me a few minute I am trying something
[03:22] <dr_willis> knob:  what image? we dont know  what comes on custom images.
[03:22] <alexandros_c> usr13,  yes it is
[03:22] <steven-> anyone expirienced issues with grub/Ubuntu 13.04 beta? It won't boot unless i configure everything manually using the grub console, the only weird part is, I configure exactly whats already configured, I even reinstalled grub, reconfigured it, no errors thrown, reboot -> busybox
[03:22] <alexandros_c> usr13,  trying to redownload the kernal and install it
[03:22] <steven-> I also hat to set sata to compatibily mode since for some odd reason acpi stoped working after the update
[03:23] <knob> dr_willis, ahh
[03:23] <knob> ok
[03:23] <knob> lemme see
[03:23] <knob> thank you... I'll report back in a couple of minutes
[03:23] <usr13> alexandros_c: Where are you downloading it from?
[03:23] <alexandros_c> usr13, through the software updater
[03:23] <usr13> Ok.
[03:25] <usr13> alexandros_c: If you can pastebin some of what you are seeing on the screen, we might be able to tell more about what's going on.
[03:25] <usr13> !paste | alexandros_c
[03:25] <alexandros_c> usr13, ok
[03:27] <usr13> alexandros_c: Have you made any modifications to the sources.list file?
[03:30] <alexandros_c> usr13,  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/107025963/2013-03-13-232609_1366x768_scrot.png
[03:34] <alexandros_c> usr13, I added prereleased updates
[03:36] <usr13> prerelease updates?
[03:37] <alexandros_c> yes
[03:37] <usr13> alexandros_c: Maybe you just need to remove that and do sudo apt-get update again.
[03:37] <alexandros_c> usr13,  tried that still failed
[03:38] <alexandros_c> did you see the screenshot?
[03:38] <usr13> alexandros_c: Oh I see, backports.  Ok yea that is your problem.
[03:38] <usr13> you know the difference between cutting edge and bleeding edge?
[03:38] <alexandros_c> yes
[03:38] <OerHeks> backports is different, prerelease are proposed updates
[03:39] <alexandros_c> I have used arch linux
[03:39] <alexandros_c> usr13, do you know a way to remove the offending packages?
[03:39] <Tex_Nick> usr13 : i'm going to frame your last post & hang it on the wall ;-)
[03:40] <usr13> alexandros_c: OerHeks may be a better person to advise you, but my advise is to leave backports alone, it's something you more-than-likely don't need and it is something that will cause problems.
[03:40] <MoPac> How do I change the order of sources for a package?  I can use apt-cache policy packagename to see the multiple sources, but I don't know how to edit their priority
[03:41] <alexandros_c> hello OerHeks do you have any insight on my problem
[03:41] <OerHeks> usr13, backports are sometimes a problem, but proposed updates can give more ( like this ) problems
[03:41] <usr13> Tex_Nick: Haha... well, I can't take credit for that wording... :)  Just passing on good information from reliable sources... :)
[03:41] <OerHeks> i do not understand why disable prerelease does not bring it back
[03:42] <OerHeks> must be really messed up
[03:42] <Tex_Nick> usr13 : good info indeed !!! ;-)
[03:42] <usr13> OerHeks: Yes, I understand both can cause problems, that is why I don't use them, (therefore I am in uncharted territory whith alexandros_c issues...)
[03:42] <alexandros_c> usr13, I came to that conclusion after install and all attempts to remove it failed :)
[03:43] <D3RGPS31> when booting a live imagine from usb, using the kernel option toram, everything from my usb stick is loaded to ram :l all 29GB :l is there any way to remedy this?
[03:43] <usr13> OerHeks: alexandros_c  ... but I have seen those that have had to work through the process of untangling such messes as this.
[03:44] <alexandros_c> usr13,  so you are saying it is better just to wipe the harddrive and reinstall?
[03:44] <usr13> alexandros_c: So remove the extra entries for backports and prerelease repositories and do apt-get update and apt-get install -f  etc. etc.
[03:44] <OerHeks> try autoclean
[03:45] <usr13> alexandros_c: I use LTS
[03:45] <alexandros_c> usr13, already tried that and it did not work
[03:45] <alexandros_c> usr13, thanks for your help
[03:45] <usr13> I am not one for working on an OS, I want an OS to work for me.
[03:46] <alexandros_c> OerHeks, autoclean did nothing
[03:47] <Bray90820> how would i map a bash script to a keyboard shortcut
[03:47] <usr13> alexandros_c: re-installing is probablyl not a bad idea, but we could read stuff like:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983220  and try and work through the issues to get it right again...
[03:48] <usr13> alexandros_c: "sudo apt-get clean" etc.
[03:49] <usr13> alexandros_c: The repair work may become a learning experience.  I dono if it's worth it but....
[03:49] <alexandros_c> usr13, do you think ubuntu can run on pentium 1.3 w/ 4GiB  RAM, 320 GIB disk?
[03:49] <alexandros_c> usr13, that is what I did
[03:49] <usr13> alexandros_c: I don't see why not...
[03:52] <usr13> alexandros_c: I'm not sure I understand your question.
[03:52] <alexandros_c> which question?
[03:53] <usr13> "do you think ubuntu can run on pentium 1.3 w/ 4GiB  RAM, 320 GIB disk?"
[03:53] <Magoogle> anyone have any skills with zoneminder?
[03:53] <Magoogle> @usr13 yes but depending on the version... also Unity requireds a halfway decent video card
[03:54] <usr13> alexandros_c: And then you said "that is what I did".
[03:54] <alexandros_c> you told me to run a command I already ran
[03:54] <dr_willis> Pentium 1.3 - means what
[03:55] <usr13> Magoogle: Well, that is true, and he did not specify what video card it has.
[03:55] <alexandros_c> intel
[03:56] <usr13> alexandros_c: dr_willis is pointing out the fact that "pentium 1.3" is not a complete description of the processor.
[03:56] <alexandros_c> 4
[03:56] <Magoogle> @usr13 I just tried running 11.04 on a P4 at 2.4ghz with H/T and 2gb ram.. ran good, put unity on it.. wouldnt run for crap
[03:57] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : pentium 1.3 ... http://ark.intel.com/products/42004/Intel-Pentium-Processor-SU2700-2M-Cache-1_30-GHz-800-MHz-FSB
[03:57] <Smrtz_> I'm having issues installing .net3.5, I'm trying to use this: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=10166
[03:57] <usr13> Magoogle: Not sure why it wouldn't.
[03:58] <dr_willis> Smrtz_:  you may  want to ask in #winehq
[03:58] <Smrtz_> derp, sorry, thought this was that, thanks dr_willis
[03:58] <Smrtz_> !
[03:59] <usr13> Magoogle: I'm not saying it will always but I've seen unity run just fine on a system of that caliber.
[03:59] <Magoogle> @usr13 it is cause the geforce 3 AGP video card.
[03:59] <usr13> Magoogle: Yea, a good video card can help a lot.
[04:20] <Smrtz_> How do I set environment variables in ubuntu?
[04:20] <Smrtz_> is that even a thing?
[04:22] <ztir> hey
[04:23] <ztir> i forgot my ubunutu username/pass since i havent used it in so long is worth trying to recover?
[04:23] <ztir> i'd rather uninstall but not sure how because its on a diff partition
[04:23] <ztir> how would i recover password/username in ubuntu or uninstall ubuntu for reinstall?
[04:23] <expoo> @ztir
[04:24] <expoo> go to your other partition and reformat the partition you want to uninstall
[04:24] <ReeKB> w
[04:24] <expoo> alternatively, you could boot up a livecd
[04:24] <expoo> and do it there.
[04:24] <tcstar> so, i installed jailkit and followed the directions here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248724  -- i got everything working in that i can ssh...  but i'm getting this:  https://gist.github.com/tcstar/5158783  in the terminal..  any ideas how to repair?
[04:24] <ReeKB> how i can create my room chat_?
[04:25] <Tex_Nick> can anyone give me some insight as to how well the Netflix hack/kludge for wine works on ubuntu ?
[04:25] <expoo> it works pretty well.
[04:25] <expoo> tho it could be better (my computer isn't exactly fast)
[04:25] <ReeKB> my laptop have 256 mb RAM
[04:26] <ReeKB> you can think it speed xD
[04:26] <ReeKB> i use XUBUNTU 11.10
[04:26] <ReeKB> its pretty good
[04:27] <expoo> have you tried fluxbox?
[04:27] <Tex_Nick> expoo : ahh ok cool man ... thanks for the info ;-)
[04:27] <expoo> i wouldn't worry about it if your computer is up to snuff...
[04:28] <expoo> connection speed is also important if you want better quality...but netflix has never been good about that XD
[04:28] <Tex_Nick> expoo:  i've got pretty good hardware ... never tried fluxbox though
[04:29] <ReeKB> netflix need 2 mb for second
[04:30] <OerHeks> Tex_Nick, this article from webupd8 shows a ppa with install script http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-netflix-in-ubuntu-through.html
[04:30] <expoo> ooh...i've been trying to keep the life going in this computer
[04:30] <expoo> so i'm using fluxbox...it's unintrusive and keeps everything fast
[04:30] <Tex_Nick> yeah bandwidth is not a pprob here ... i've got 20 M down & 5 M up
[04:30] <expoo> mad jelly.
[04:31] <Tex_Nick> OerHeks:  ok hey thanks for the link will give it a read
[04:31] <Tex_Nick> expoo : thanks for the info
[04:33] <Yakko> hey guys, if there's several processes writing to a log file, what is the best way to back up that file? (and possibly clear it too)
[04:51] <TIEInt>  /join #R
[04:51] <OerHeks> too much space
[05:00] <mutt> yo anybody in here?
[05:00] <dr_willis>  yes
[05:00] <Laogeodritt> Anyone know of packages that can provide bandwidth usage statistics (hourly/daily etc.) on a per-local-port basis? This is for a headless server; I'm running a couple different services and I'd like to track the data being transferred by each one
[05:01] <dr_willis> !info ntop
[05:01] <mutt> lol awesome, not exactly sure how all this works but glad im learning something
[05:01] <Abhijit> Laogeodritt, vnstat
[05:01] <dr_willis> !irc
[05:01] <Laogeodritt> dr_willis: doesn't that only display real-time transfer rate?
[05:01] <Abhijit> Laogeodritt, vnstat
[05:01] <Laogeodritt> Abhijit, thanks, I'll look into it
[05:02] <dr_willis> No idea. ;) i rarely need such tools
[05:02] <dr_willis> would seem a missing feature if  it dident keep some sor  tof totals
[05:02] <Abhijit> vnstat does
[05:03] <mutt> so there is different ways to connect to this room or is xchat the only way?
[05:04] <dr_willis> theres dozens of irc clients you can use mutt
[05:04] <dr_willis> im onmy  android phone rightnow
[05:04] <mutt> ah thats pretty neat
[05:05] <mutt> and this ubuntu room is probably a good place for me to learn more stuff im guessing...
[05:05] <elky> there's also the webchat that freenode provides
[05:05] <mutt> ive been tinkering with gnome for a couple years but always resort back to windows cause i give up
[05:06] <dr_willis> i tend to give up on windows...  ;P
[05:06] <mutt> freenode..yeah i read somethin with that tonight
[05:06] <mutt> lol i dont blame u on giving up on windows...seems to prone to problems
[05:07] <mutt> well this is kool, learned something new tonight...you ever used xchat?
[05:08] <dr_willis> xchat is a commonly used irc client.
[05:08] <dr_willis> it has a windows versions also.
[05:09] <mutt> yupp thats what ive been reading, seems pretty neat so far...doubt theres any chicks to chat with though lol
[05:09] <Laogeodritt> dr_willis: its command line and my recent issues getting a terminal that works well with my server/
[05:09] <mutt> can xchat connect to icq or anything like that?
[05:09] <Laogeodritt> *server's tmux are pushing me towards using Linux for everything not related to gaming or music production
[05:09] <dr_willis> some irc clients have IM client  plugins.. i  rarely use the feature
[05:10] <Laogeodritt> dr_willis: (re: Windows)
[05:11] <mutt> well hopefully i get to learn more, i really love ubuntu...hope to learn more and never go back to windows
[05:11] <dr_willis> !manual
[05:11] <mutt> sweeeeet
[05:13] <mutt> thanx man i appreciate it
[05:15] <mutt> imma go look around more on this thing, i will be back in here soon
[05:16] <servvs> I keep getting errors when I try to update, it says requires installation of untrusted package
[05:16] <servvs> the packages that are untrusted I need/want, how can I fix this?
[05:17] <dr_willis> !gpg
[05:17] <dr_willis> hmm.. theres some pgp/gpg keys  for the sources
[05:17] <dr_willis> !pgp
[05:17] <OerHeks> likely the keys are not installed indeed
[05:17] <dr_willis> i forget the factoid on it
[05:18] <Tex_Nick> OerHeks:  regarding the link you gave me for the Netflix hack/kludge for wine ... THANKS ... that was painless ... works GREAT :-)
[05:18] <OerHeks> Tex_Nick, have fun
[05:19] <OerHeks> i need a proxy or something outside the USA
[05:21] <BlackWeb> Is there away to enable access to the shutdown command without being root; I've modified my /etc/sudoer to include  "MyUserid ALL=(ALL) ALL" But still need to be root in terminal to issue shutdown command
[05:21] <lickalott> hey all
[05:21] <lickalott> anyone in here good with nawk?
[05:22] <cerebrate> after disabling auto initiating of lxde i find myself stuck with a CLI how do i initialize lxde
[05:22] <Tex_Nick> OreHeks : FYI ... i signed up for a month free trial of Netflix about 6 hours ago ... remembering that i had heard that Netflix was now supported on Ubuntu ... when i tried to access a video i was redirected to a page telling me that my system was not supported
[05:22] <lickalott> looking to print below a certain text.  below this text, the line number could vary depending on what happened (how the data is captured) so i can't just tail # the doc.
[05:22] <servvs> how can I purge all of my ppa's except the ones that come with ubuntu, some appear to be broken
[05:23] <lickalott> here's what i have so far - nawk `/Summary Statistics/{printit}printit` filename.txt
[05:23] <inasheeen> hi there, I have a question, on ubuntu gear logo > System Settings > Network , there is an option to run hotspot. there is another option to run hotspot using hostapd, which from what I heard using an infrastructure method. But works differently, in that android cannot detect ubuntu hotspot but can detect hostapd connection. may i know what is the difference between them. thank you
[05:23] <lickalott> i get errors when i run it.  i didn't write them down, but ^^ doesn't work
[05:23] <xangua> !ppa-purge | servvs
[05:23] <OerHeks> !ppa-purge | servvs
[05:23] <Tex_Nick> OerHeks:  so i used their online chat support ... only to be told by their rep that Linux was not yet supported ... lol ;-)
[05:24] <OerHeks> Tex_Nick, sorry to hear that, they must have read that page too
[05:24] <tekkbuzz> BlackWeb: try moving the MyUserid line to the bottom of the sudoers file and add the NOPASSWD: option
[05:24] <mutt> yea thats another reason i would resort back to windows instead of using ubuntu....netflix would stream on it
[05:25] <servvs> hulu streams just fine though
[05:25] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll give that a Try Thanks :)
[05:26] <mutt> is hulu free?
[05:26] <MrHacks> Somebody better wake up
[05:26] <servvs> a lot of hulu is free
[05:26] <Tex_Nick> OerHeks:  Yeah you got that right ... i'm about to go back to their online chat ... tell them that Linux is supported ... thanks again ;-)
[05:26] <tekkbuzz> BlackWeb: MyUserid ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[05:27] <MrHacks> My resolution is stuck in 800x600
[05:27] <MrHacks> xrandr doesn't remember I have a 22" screen
[05:28] <Jordan_U> MrHacks: That's most likely a driver problem, i.e. you're stuck with VESA drivers for some reason.
[05:29] <MrHacks> This is all I can paste about the problem from /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/EQrcXdii
[05:29] <servvs> the repo is malformed and it isn't letting me remove it, is there a solution to this?
[05:30] <asho> hi
[05:30] <asho> we are using the exchange server
[05:30] <asho> now we plan to move to open source mail server
[05:30] <servvs> looks like I can edit it as root, i will give that a try
[05:30] <asho> please guide me
[05:30] <OerHeks> servvs, just removing repo's does not roll back those packages
[05:32] <Aliengel> Hi is there option to save window session between logins in 12.10?
[05:32] <MrHacks> Jordan_U: I used the free drivers, I used the proprietary nvidia drivers, and each time this situation has gotten worse
[05:32] <dr_willis> you can get netflix so many other ways.. i dont really use it on my linux box. :)
[05:33] <MrHacks> I can't hover over the left side to view my side menu, I have to use the window key
[05:33] <MrHacks> My open application windows would take turns turning BLACK until they all turned black
[05:34] <asho> hi looking for migrating the exchange server, any sugestion
[05:34] <MrHacks> I'm hooked up to an HDMI connection on a 22" Samsung 1920x1080 screen I bough from Amazon less than two weeks ago
[05:34] <OerHeks> !server
[05:35] <servvs> I just removed the list from /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[05:35] <servvs> and did apt-get update
[05:35] <servvs> all is well now
[05:36] <MrHacks> And since the screen works perfectly, and the hardware on the computer is brand spanking new, everything works well up until all this weird crap happens that I am unfamilar with even with my knowledge of computers
[05:37] <dr_willis> brand spanking new - is often the most problematic with linux
[05:37] <MrHacks> So explain what are the VESA drivers, why I'm stuck with them, and why right now, the Display pannel show no screens detected despite the fact that I'm looking at it right now
[05:37] <shortstraw8> I typed in sudo cp -r /home/myuser/page.html/ /var/www/page.html/     when I did this it added a new page.html into the page.html in the var/www and I do not have permission on it. So my question is how do I get permission is it chown 777? And my other question is why did this happen?
[05:37] <dr_willis> VESA is the  bottom of the line failsafe drivers..
[05:38] <MrHacks> why are the fail safes going off when there wasn't anything wrong with to begin with.
[05:38] <dr_willis> because somthing has gone wrong
[05:38] <MrHacks> The only thing that is old on the machine is the graphics card which I used from a previous computer that was a couple years old
[05:38] <dr_willis> whatever other drivers were working are not
[05:39]  * dr_willis hasent been paying attention to the details.. whats the card anyway?
[05:39] <MrHacks> the free drivers failed, the propietary nvidia drivers failed
[05:39] <sarnold> shortstraw8: cp tried to bring the page.html/ directory from the source into the page.html/ directory on the destination. It'll take a while to get the hang of cp and rsync syntax. If you had run cp -r /home/myuser/page.html/* /var/www/page.html/ it would have worked as you expected.
[05:39] <Jordan_U> MrHacks: As a test, can you try booting from a LiveUSB of the same version of Ubuntu and see if the external monitor works properly? (to test a vanilla configuration)
[05:39] <MrHacks> nvidia GeForce 9800 GTX+
[05:40] <sarnold> shortstraw8: or, if the /var/www/page.html/ directory did not already exist, this probably would have worked: cp -r /home/myuser/page.html/ /var/www
[05:40] <MrHacks> Jordan_U: Not without closing everything I had open. And rebooting the machine has not effect on this problem
[05:40] <dr_willis> the test is to see if a Live cd setup  does in fact work..
[05:41] <sarnold> shortstraw8: chmod 777 is a too-blunt tool for fixing problems. it's not a good idea.
[05:41] <dr_willis> if it does - then that would show the Noveau drivers work for that card
[05:41] <MrHacks> I've tried discussing this issue with the folks at ##linux, got snubbed with a smug response of "you didn't paste your entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, so we're not going to help you."
[05:42] <dr_willis> seems you just want to argue.. we dont controll what other channels do.. so its  pointless info.
[05:42] <MrHacks> I'm not looking for argument.
[05:43] <dr_willis> Live cd would show IF the noveau drivers work for that card..  its also possible  you have an old /etc/X11/xorg.conf thats goofing  up things.. remove/rename it - if it exists
[05:44] <MrHacks> I don't have a LiveUSB and I've uninstalled the noveau drivers after they failed and replaced them with the propietary drivers which have also failed now
[05:44] <dr_willis> it would also be a good idea to  be sure the ssh  server is installed.. incase youneed to ssh into  the bbox to try to fix things.. and install a non unity  desktop (like lubuntu-desktop) or window manager (like jwm) as a fallback  failsafe
[05:45] <dr_willis> how did you install the nvidia drivers?
[05:45] <MrHacks> software center
[05:45] <dr_willis> I do belive theres several versions in the repos for those drivers.
[05:45] <dr_willis> the addational-drivers tool should list them.
[05:45] <shortstraw8> sarnold,  Is there a way to delete it because it is not allowing me to see my changes on my local host.
[05:46] <sarnold> shortstraw8: sudo rm -rf /var/www/page.html/
[05:46] <MrHacks> The strangest thing is that about two or three hours later after taking advice about how I should reboot (which I did and that failed) the damn thing turns back to 1920x1080
[05:47] <MrHacks> I could mess with xrandr for hours on end and have nothing happen
[05:48] <MrHacks> then suddenly the computer remembers everything it forgot
[05:48] <memand> Bit gremlins!
[05:48] <dr_willis> could be the monitor edid info is ocnfuseing what res's the monitor can actually handle also.
[05:49] <MrHacks> So what is, that? the EDID
[05:50] <dr_willis> the monitor gives info the the pc as towhat res and other specs it can handel
[05:50] <dr_willis> handle
[05:51] <MrHacks> So the monitor could be telling the computer this  information even though the monitor can handle more than 800x600
[05:51] <MrHacks> correct?
[05:51] <shortstraw8> sarnold, So in the past I have never used * before, guess I will from now on. dumb question what does the -rf mean? Thank you
[05:52] <sarnold> shortstraw8: * matches all files and directories in a directory -- except for "dot files" such as ., .., .bashrc, and so forth
[05:52] <dr_willis> could be.. or it could be some sort of error in communications where the monitor is not telling anything at all. so the pc defaults to 800x600
[05:53] <sarnold> shortstraw8: -r means (to rm) _recursive_ -- delete everything underneath the named directory. -f means _force_ -- normally rm will ask if you really want to delete a file that you don't have write access to. -f tells it to skip those questions and just delete.
[05:53] <MrHacks> Could it be the HDMI cable? I have another device plugged into another HDMI port on the screen that is showing 1920x1080. It's my Roku box for netflxi
[05:53] <dr_willis> bad hdmi cables can cause all sorts of issues.
[05:53] <Smrtz_> Hey, can I uninstall netlinks without ruining everything?  it's interfeering with something I'm working on.
[05:53] <dr_willis> or semi-flakey hdmi cables.
[05:54] <shortstraw8> sarnold,  You are the man, Thanks you just saved me from going nuts.
[05:54] <sarnold> shortstraw8 :) have fun :)
[05:56] <MrHacks> I will look into replacing the HDMI cable immediately. Prior to my purchase and using an older monitor this problem did not exist, so I will do something about the cable.
[05:56] <dr_willis> could be the hdmi port on the tv also
[05:57] <MrHacks> I tried that. Got the same result when I swapped ports
[05:57] <dr_willis> swap cables perhaps
[05:58] <Abhijit> hi. can i make ubuntu package from another distro?
[05:58] <Abhijit> or in general can i create .deb from rpm distro
[05:59] <sarnold> Abhijit: the 'alien' tool (used to?) claim to be able to do that task. however the end result might be .. strange. I'd recommend real packaging if you have the time and inclination.
[05:59] <OerHeks> there is a tool called alien to handel that, but warnings for incompatibality of those packages
[05:59] <Abhijit> :-(
[05:59] <MrHacks> sure enough, swaping the ports worked
[05:59] <OerHeks> better build from source
[05:59] <MrHacks> I will need to look into this defect
[05:59] <Abhijit> sardonyx_, OerHeks I am not talking about converting rpm to deb or vice versa.
[05:59] <MrHacks> thank you
[06:00] <Abhijit> sarnold, ^
[06:00] <sarnold> Abhijit: ah, you just want to do the packaging on your opensuse? that ought to work
[06:00] <Abhijit> yes
[06:00] <Abhijit> :-o
[06:00] <Abhijit> how on eartth you know I am using opensuse sarnold ?
[06:01] <sarnold> Abhijit: _however_ most people do packaging on ubuntu or debian within very minimal chroot environments and nearly-full build systems, using e.g. schroot and sbuild or pbuilder.
[06:01] <sarnold> Abhijit: your username is 'opensuse' :) just a guess...
[06:01] <Abhijit> :-o
[06:01] <Abhijit> is it? where?
[06:01] <sarnold> Abhijit: /wii Abhijit will show you
[06:01] <Abhijit> oh. this xchat! revealing infro about me!!!!
[06:02] <dr_willis> your cover is blown! run for it!
[06:02]  * Abhijit runs
[06:04] <HorizonXP> hey guys
[06:05] <HorizonXP> My MySQL service seemingly gets stopped/crashed at odd intervals
[06:05] <HorizonXP> I'm guessing with increased RAM usage
[06:05] <HorizonXP> but I can't seem to find anything in the logs saying what's causing it
[06:05] <HorizonXP> I've looked in syslog and mysql.err/log
[06:05] <HorizonXP> but to no avail. any ideas?
[06:05] <Abhijit> HorizonXP, also try #mysql
[06:06] <sarnold> HorizonXP: if it was taking too much memory and the kernel decided to kill it to reclaim memory, the kernel would look "OOM" out of memory messages. have you see any of those?
[06:07] <sarnold> HorizonXP: is your mysql accessible by anyone? or are connections to it fairly restricted? I recently saw some exploits against mysql that just stopped it cold, no log messages ..
[06:07] <HorizonXP> sarnold: connections to it *should* be fairly restricted, it's not exposed to external IPs, just localhost
[06:08] <sarnold> HorizonXP: good start. hrm.
[06:08] <HorizonXP> that being said, services like Wordpress, and some python apps do connect to it
[06:08]  * HorizonXP needs to kill Wordpress off this thing BTW
[06:08] <sarnold> oh. hrm. are both up-to-date?
[06:08] <HorizonXP> sarnold: which log would show OOM errors?
[06:09] <sarnold> HorizonXP: kern.log at least
[06:09] <sarnold> HorizonXP: they may also be logged into syslog.log
[06:09] <HorizonXP> sarnold: need to check Wordpress. I've held off on updates for the last week just until I can isolate this issue.
[06:09] <HorizonXP> any keywords I should look for?
[06:10] <somsip> HorizonXP: try /var/log/mysql/error.log too
[06:10] <sarnold> HorizonXP: 'oom' (I forget upper case or lowercase...), 'segfault'
[06:11] <HorizonXP> none of those
[06:11] <Kalidarn> didn't there used to be an ubuntu mactel channel?
[06:12] <HorizonXP> sarnold: apparently I only have 15 MB free out of 512+. mysqld's using the most at 7.xx%
[06:12] <HorizonXP> which... isn't that much.
[06:12] <sarnold> HorizonXP: how's your diskspace? is anything low?
[06:12] <HorizonXP> 10G available
[06:12] <somsip> HorizonXP: any swap in use - not that it should necessarily kill mysql but it will make it run badly which could cause probs
[06:13] <HorizonXP> hmm... no swap partition
[06:13] <HorizonXP> this is an EC2 instance, so i guess they didn't put one in by default
[06:14] <somsip> HorizonXP: is full logging enabled? /etc/mysql/my.cnf under general_log_*
[06:15] <somsip> HorizonXP: might be worth enabling it so see if it spits something uses out next time it goes down
[06:15] <somsip> *useful
[06:16] <sarnold> HorizonXP: bed time for me, good luck :)
[06:17] <HorizonXP> somsip: i'll check and try that
[06:17] <HorizonXP> sarnold: thanks for your help, gnite
[06:17] <somsip> HorizonXP: make sure this is set too. I find most normal errors end up in here: log_error = /var/log/mysql/error.log
[06:18] <HorizonXP> somsip: my.cnf has comments about it being a performance killer?
[06:18] <ak5_> hey guys I have a 11.04 live cd I am booted into, but I want to install 12.04 (am connected to the internet) is there a way to do this?
[06:18] <somsip> HorizonXP: yes - it is. But I'd suggest your performance is worse than compromised right now? It might be your only option if you have nothing else to go on
[06:19] <aeon-ltd> ak5_: besides install and upgrade?
[06:19] <HorizonXP> somsip: fair enough :)
[06:20] <somsip> HorizonXP: How often does it fail?
[06:21] <HorizonXP> somsip: once every day or so
[06:21] <somsip> HorizonXP: so it won't run badly for too long until you get an answer. Maybe you coudl attempt to kill it with ab (apache bench) by hitting the blog or other site that uses it?
[06:22] <HorizonXP> yeah i could try that
[06:22] <ak5_> aeon-ltd: yeah
[06:23] <ak5_> aeon-ltd: upgrading has always given me more problems than a clean install
[06:23] <somsip> ak5_: then download the 12.04 live CD/DVD and install from that
[06:23] <aeon-ltd> ak5_: no, i suggest reburning for the cleanest possible method
[06:23] <ak5_> meh, want to avoid that. fine I just use 11.04 for this box
[06:23] <ak5_> :D
[06:24] <AlexanderVI> can someone explain why adobe recompiles the same version of flash every week it seems, i assume this has somethign to do with the endless flashplugin-installer updates ... to the SAME build, over and over
[06:24] <AlexanderVI> its annoying
[06:24] <AlexanderVI> its a waste of bandwidth to download flash over and over
[06:25] <aeon-ltd> AlexanderVI: doesn't apt have a ignore option?
[06:25] <AlexanderVI> aeon-ltd, it does, but i would like it to be updated when there is a real update
[06:26] <AlexanderVI> but it persists in crying wolf
[06:26] <l057c0d3r> are you sure there isnt like a 0.0.# change.. because apt should not install / re download unless there is a new version number..
[06:27] <l057c0d3r> maybe there just bumping in small bugfixes here and there..  because of there talk of dropping support for everything but chrom.......
[06:27] <AlexanderVI> no, its 11.2.202, over and over; 11.2.202.273... 11.2.275..
[06:28] <l057c0d3r> right .202  .273  .275..  there has been a revision then somewhere right?
[06:28] <AlexanderVI> no
[06:28] <AlexanderVI> not according to firefox, its 11.2.202
[06:28] <AlexanderVI> it seems they recompile every week for the hell of it
[06:28] <AlexanderVI> hash is different nothing else
[06:28] <AlexanderVI> hence 11.2.202.275..
[06:29] <truexfan81> ^
[06:29] <AlexanderVI> 11.2 r202
[06:29] <truexfan81> how long till .275 will be in the repos?
[06:29] <AlexanderVI> 2 week tops
[06:29] <AlexanderVI> then it will be updated again
[06:29] <AlexanderVI> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_11.2.202.275ubuntu0.12.10.1/changelog heres a history of this nonsense
[06:30] <AlexanderVI> thats how long its been goin on
[06:30] <Ben64> you see how the numbers change?
[06:30] <Ben64> that means its new : /
[06:31] <truexfan81> AlexanderVI: i just ran the gui update tool for lubuntu 12.04 the update is there, idk why it didn't show up when i did a sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:31] <truexfan81> thats kinda annoying
[06:32] <l057c0d3r> truexfan81, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:32] <AlexanderVI> Ben64, its only true if u can point me to some adobe changelog documentation describing why its new
[06:32] <AlexanderVI> its 11.2 r202
[06:32] <truexfan81> l057c0d3r:  i tried that too, said system was up to date
[06:33] <l057c0d3r> hmm..  odd
[06:33] <AlexanderVI> saying its 'new' does not make
[06:33] <Ben64> they're not just changing it for nothing, they fix bugs
[06:33] <AlexanderVI> then it would be release 204 or something not 202
[06:33] <truexfan81> anyway its done, so i can close the screen and go back to using ssh to control the netbook now lol
[06:33] <AlexanderVI> over and over
[06:33] <l057c0d3r> AlexanderVI, try dl the source :-p and comparing
[06:33] <dr_willis> given adobes history.... :) thats supriseing..
[06:34] <l057c0d3r> well if the changes are small config / bug fixes.. but nothing major.. then does not qualify for a release update
[06:34] <AlexanderVI> if i had the 'source' i wouldnt be using their shitty product
[06:34] <l057c0d3r> oh true
[06:34] <l057c0d3r> sorry slipped my mind
[06:34] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:34] <AlexanderVI> but id bet the only change is the 4 byte compile timestamp
[06:35] <Ben64> AlexanderVI: go ask adobe then
[06:35] <l057c0d3r> maybe they just want to annoy people on linux...  sounds about right for adobe
[06:36] <dr_willis> they would totally  rename the files at random then. ;) to break  the deb tools
[06:36] <aeon-ltd> l057c0d3r: on win/mac there's an option to always do updates in background
[06:36] <truexfan81> i have windows machines too, was only i minor update on those also from .171 to .180
[06:36] <rohitkav> My Dell machine wifi isn't connecting
[06:36] <rohitkav> Kindly help
[06:37] <Aravoth> Hi all, Thunderbired notifiacations are not working at all with ubuntu 12.10, does anyon ehave a solution for this?
[06:37] <aeon-ltd> rohitkav: was it before?
[06:37] <l057c0d3r> Aravoth, if i remember correctly you have to have tunderbird open for the notifications to show up
[06:38] <rohitkav> yes
[06:38] <rohitkav> i was able to connect wired
[06:38] <rohitkav> but not through wifi
[06:38] <Aravoth> anyway to make that a passive thing?
[06:38] <l057c0d3r> might want to look into something like kdocky  or something like that..  which allows you to leave it open but drop it to system tray area..
[06:38] <rohitkav> aeon-ltd, Dell inpiron 1318
[06:39] <l057c0d3r> not sure if kdocky is what its called.. havent used it for some long after switching to evolution
[06:39] <AlexanderVI> i stand corrected, i found list of bug fixes on 3rd party site
[06:40] <Ben64> rohitkav: pastebin "lspci"
[06:40] <l057c0d3r> hmm a new kernel again...
[06:41] <l057c0d3r> now if i could only make apt update burg when it installs a new kernel...
[06:41] <l057c0d3r> updates grub conf for me.. but don't use grub...  sigh
[06:42] <jony> I need a good workaround how to mount a samba share with full write access mode in a local folder
[06:42] <l057c0d3r> anyone with an idea on that..  change apt so it updates burg.cfg rather then grub.cfg?
[06:43] <servvs> I have compiled another wine version but am unable to use it, every time I try I get this error
[06:43] <servvs> wine client error:0: version mismatch 438/431.
[06:46] <jony> I want to mount a windows 7 share with write access in ubuntu 12.04, help please
[06:47] <rohitkav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5612870/
[06:47] <rohitkav> Ben64,
[06:51] <Ben64> rohitkav: thats a hard one to get working :(
[06:54] <Seveas> !broadcom | rohitkav
[06:56] <rohitkav> broadcom??
[06:57] <servvs> I am having issues running a different version of wine
[06:57] <servvs> I keep throwing an error "wine client error:0: version mismatch 438/431."
[06:58] <servvs> that happens when I try to run the new version that i compiled
[06:58] <servvs> I have tried pkill wine and pkill exe and then tried to run the version again but still run into the same error
[07:07] <servvs> I keep throwing an error "wine client error:0: version mismatch 438/431."
[07:07] <servvs> that happens when I try to run the new version that i compiled
[07:08] <servvs> of wine, how can I fix this?
[07:08] <usr13> msg ubottu !ubuntu
[07:11] <jony> I cannot write to samba mounted share :(
[07:11] <Tex_Nick> usr13 : what was that last command you just posted ... refercing the bot ?
[07:11] <jony> I've used this command: sudo smbmount //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server -o user=jony
[07:11] <jony> please help
[07:15] <Tex_Nick> usr13 : sorry nvm  :(
[07:17] <jony> I cannot write to samba mounted share :(
[07:17] <jony> I've used this command: sudo smbmount //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server -o user=jony
[07:18] <AAA> jony: umount the share and them chown -R jony.jony /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server and remount it
[07:19] <AAA> jony: and make sure you mount it rw
[07:22] <jony> AAA, how can I mount it RW?
[07:25] <AAA> jony: it _may_ be the default. you can check with the mount command (if it is still mounted). it should be a server setting
[07:26] <AAA> jony: also tail your smb*.log on the server to see what is going on
[07:29] <iPollesion> !help
[07:29] <dr_willis> and the issue  is?
[07:30] <jony> AAA, please give me the exact commands
[07:30] <iPollesion> I am going to start learning how to program with Java and I was wondering which would be best to use 64bit or 32bit. I plan on compiling for Windows 64 and 32.
[07:30] <dr_willis> iPollesion:  i doubt if it mattters much.
[07:30] <dr_willis> iPollesion:  i use 64bit on all 64bit hardware
[07:30] <iPollesion> 32bit should be fine for bot development?
[07:30] <dr_willis> iPollesion:  i doubt if it mattters much.....
[07:30] <AAA> jony: do you have access to the samba server? on the client do $ mount | grep mnt
[07:31] <iPollesion> Ah I see.
[07:31] <dchevak> I am not home right now just wanted to see what some people think the problem might be ubuntu 10.04 DNS was running as master changed to slave no problems with rndc connection failed
[07:31] <iPollesion> It shouldn't matter much then. My work will most likely be executed on 32bit and 64bit
[07:32] <dr_willis> err.. is there anything else it could be executed on?  ;)   8bit?
[07:32] <iPollesion> and Java is OS independant. Thanks @dr willis
[07:32] <iPollesion> Haha.
[07:32] <iPollesion> Java doesn't run on chrome OS does it?
[07:32] <AAA> dchevak: firewall? bad dnsec key?
[07:33] <dr_willis> I imagine chromeos can do java
[07:33] <iPollesion> http://productforums.google.com/d/msg/chrome/vjjBEatjrMs/sjIPDqGCqKcJ
[07:33] <iPollesion> Sometimes our imagination isn't always right :(
[07:34] <dr_willis> I have chromeos running inside my  ubuntu system
[07:34] <iPollesion> Great.
[07:35] <AAA> dr_willis: you are so polite
[07:35] <jony> AAA, yes, ex. if I connect with the ubuntu's file manager, the share mounts with full access
[07:35] <iPollesion> thank you very much, those were the only questions I had.
[07:35] <iPollesion> I am excited.
[07:35] <dchevak> I disabled firewall and even removed rules for rejection all from iptables and reject all has come back in again and firewall is disabled
[07:36] <we6jbo> hi
[07:37] <bencc> installing updates hangs in the Flash plugin
[07:37] <bencc> what can I do? stop it?
[07:38] <dr_willis> i think it  will time out after a while bencc
[07:38] <dr_willis> how are you updateing?
[07:38] <bencc> dr_willis: update manager
[07:38] <bencc> dr_willis: it's been stuck for 15 mintues
[07:38] <dr_willis> i always uncheck the flash update. ;)
[07:38] <AAA> dchevak: can you do simple lookups from that box? host google.com <your-name-server-or-name-server-ip>; when that fails try $host google.com localhost (if that is where bind is running)
[07:39] <bencc> dr_willis: how can I stop the update?
[07:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> hallo ubuntu
[07:39] <dr_willis> bencc:  theres not a cancle button?>
[07:39] <bencc> dr_willis: disabled
[07:40] <we6jbo> browser can be hanging it?
[07:40] <bencc> browser is not opened
[07:41] <dr_willis> i rcall my  pc hanging in a simiiler way.... i forget what i did.. just left it alone for a day i  think. :) or i might have used the close button
[07:42] <we6jbo> I would have just killed something if it did that for 15min
[07:42] <we6jbo> not wait 24hrs
[07:42] <bencc> how can I kill it?
[07:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> bencc: ctrl+f2 xkill
[07:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> click the offending window.
[07:43] <bencc> ntzrmtthihu777: can I do it from the command line?
[07:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> that too.
[07:43] <bencc> not sure ctrl+f2 will work because I'm in vbox
[07:43] <bencc> how?
[07:43] <AAA> bencc: xkill
[07:44] <we6jbo> I dont even bother updating anymore because it seems that when I do something like that happens
[07:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> bencc: my bad, its alt+f2 anyways.
[07:44] <AAA> bencc: or ps auxfwww| grep SEARCHSTRING
[07:44] <jony> AAA, after executing mount | grep mnt : //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server on /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server type cifs (rw)
[07:44] <AAA> bencc: and then kill that
[07:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> bencc: and yes, you can use the same xkill command from a terminal
[07:45] <bencc> search for what?
[07:45] <bencc> I killed the gui window
[07:45] <bencc> but apt is still locked
[07:45] <bencc> maybe I'll just restart
[07:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> bencc: apt is locked? if you try apt-get from the command line you can find the offending lock file and rm it.
[07:46] <AAA> jony: can you to touch /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server/test ? if not what does $ ls -ld /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server say?
[07:46] <dchevak> bind never starts on the ubuntu machine that I changed from master to slave
[07:46] <AAA> bencc: no need to restart
[07:46] <bencc> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks
[07:46] <AAA> bencc: is sounds like gui has locked your command line apt
[07:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> bencc: np, just a n00b helpin a noob.
[07:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> erm, I said that wrong, lol
[07:47] <AAA> bencc: do a search for dpkg and apt processes. you'll need to use sudo and grep
[07:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone on here using irssi? got a script issue I wanna settle.
[07:48] <AAA> bencc: like $ ps aux|grep dpkg
[07:48] <dchevak> my centos master works but ubuntu hasnt started I am thinking of doing a fresh install on old hard drive and see if I can get it working then copy config I am sure once I get it working will still need to get it talking to each other
[07:49] <jony> AAA, the touch command didn't give any error
[07:50] <AAA> bencc: actually, are you positive there isn't a hidden window/tab somewhere that asks you if you want to update? apt/dpkg/dselect puts a lock in place when it is running
[07:50] <AAA> jony: then you have rw on that share, I'd rm it the touch file if it were me
[07:50] <dchevak> bind9 status shows not running
[07:51] <AAA> dchevak: is that suppose to be your nameserver?
[07:51] <dchevak> /etc/init.d/bind9 restart               says ok
[07:51] <AAA> dchevak: netstat -ltpn|grep named
[07:51] <AAA> dchevak: ps aux|grep named
[07:51] <dchevak> then says fails to connect 127.0.0.1
[07:52] <AAA> dchevak: it isn't configured properly then
[07:52] <jony> AAA, then how can I mount that share in a folder as writeable?
[07:53] <dchevak> thats why I was checking firewall and iptables and noticed something is putting reject ALL
[07:53] <dchevak> I have disabled firewall and deleted ruled and keeps coming back
[07:53] <AAA> jony: hrm. you just proved it was writeable. do you want this rw available everywhere, like at /home/fakeuser/?
[07:54] <AAA> dchevak: is this a production server?
[07:55] <jony> AAA, after the chown the mounted folder is ok, but inside the shared folders haves some little locks on their folder icons
[07:55] <jony> AAA, and they are still not writeable
[07:55] <AAA> jony: use a shell. ls -l /that/directory (PASTE IN PASTEBIN NOT HERE)
[07:56] <dr_willis> hmm.. chowning a samba share?
[07:56] <AAA> dr_willis: no, just the mount point
[07:56] <dr_willis> Ok. :) at least thats doable..
[07:57] <dr_willis> recursively chown the files perhaps.. this is on a ext2/3/4 fs? and not a vfat/ntfs i hope
[07:57] <AAA> I realized the -R was un-needed right after I typed it. but if it was applied after mount, it is all good
[07:57] <jony> AAA, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5612996/
[07:58] <dr_willis> evverything is owned by root. ;)
[07:59] <AAA> jony: are other smb exported shares working? It looks like you smbd.conf needs some adjustment
[08:00] <Drenriza> is ls / |grep ^video[0-9]$ the same as saying "list anything in / that starts with video and ends on a number between 0 and 9"?
[08:00] <AAA> and I don't see the touch file you made
[08:01] <AAA> Drenriza: I think you are missing a wildcard between [0-9] and the end ($)
[08:02] <AAA> Drenriza: or better yet, more stingy regex
[08:02] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: I'm using irssi.
[08:02] <Drenriza> AAA not sure what you mean
[08:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: what distro?
[08:03] <jony> AAA, this is my first share that I want to mount like this
[08:03] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: slackware
[08:03] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: slackware and ubuntu Why does it matter?
[08:03] <AAA> Drenriza: I said that wrong. your regex will match video/1 but not video/1/yourmom
[08:03] <jony> AAA, but if I connect it via file manager "Connect to server" function, it mounts with write access
[08:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: because I got a sysinfo script that is returning debian/wheezy for my system, wanna know if its like that for other buntu users
[08:04] <AAA> jony: is it already mounted under /media ?
[08:04] <Ben64> jony: you should put the share in the fstab
[08:05] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Oh, I dono,  I'll look at my  ubuntu system.
[08:05] <AAA> my guess is that is is automounting under /media
[08:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> kk, need the exact script?
[08:06] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Wanna look?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5613007/
[08:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: not what I mean, lol. you can add scripts to $HOME/.irssi/scripts to increase functionality.
[08:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> for instance:
[08:08] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: ubuntu is based off debian, thats why it comes up as such
[08:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: that's what I figured :/
[08:08] <histo> usr13: weechat has /script  which brings up an interface to enable disable scripts. Also has /iset  for changing settings etc... Much nicer interface IMO
[08:08] <Ben64> you could always change the script
[08:08] <AAA> jony: do the command mount. and look to see if anything looks like your samba
[08:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: check your /msg
[08:10] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Ok.
[08:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: yesh, that's what I was thinking.
[08:12] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: I thought you wanted just a stock config script.
[08:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> no, I was wanting to see if it was an issue with my machine that made it say debian or if all buntu machines would return that as the script exists right now.
[08:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: I seent it to msg because I did not want to flood the channel with my specs.
[08:15] <usr13> Yea, that's ok
[08:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> although it would be nifty if I had an issue and someone needed my specs
[08:19] <dchevak> I live in a village in Alaska and created a wireless Intranet for people to chat watch how to videos listen and download music I have been working on a Dell poweredge 2600 and adding another DNS server to offset load also changing from ubuntu to CentOS I aways have problems with ubuntu updates
[08:21] <dchevak> I have about 300 users and trying to instsall everything new upgrading joomla from 1.5 to 2.5.9
[08:24] <histo> dchevak: Is there a question in there?
[08:26] <jony> AAA, I know how to setup in fstab, but I will need a system restart every time when I want to mount that share? :(
[08:27] <Tex_Nick> dchevak:  I worked on the Alyeska pipeline back about 1974 ... i wish we had what you're doing now back then ;-)
[08:28] <dchevak> my question was about DNS on ubuntu 10.04 that I changed from master to slave and keeps giving me rndc errors have disabled firewall and checked iptables and something keeps putting a reject all rule in iptable have removed several times
[08:28] <Seveas> dchevak: pastebin the rndc errors please
[08:29] <Tex_Nick> dchevak:  10.04 is ancient ... have you considered upgrading to 12.04 ?
[08:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Tex_Nick: perhaps the machines cannot handle the unity... you can remove it, dchevak, if you want.
[08:30] <dchevak> I am currently at hospital with my daughter wont be back to my server till tomorrow
[08:31] <dchevak> the error is connection failed 127.0.0.1
[08:31] <PudgePacket> Where can I find a place to download a driver for my wireless USB dongle, ubuntu doesn't recognise it.
[08:32] <Seveas> dchevak: ok, let's talk tomorrow then. Few things to try is rndc keeps failing: correct content & permissions on the rndc.key file. Correct config in bind to honor it, iptables can get filled by things like fail2ban and denyhosts. Make sure the dns server is actually listening on 127.0.0.1 and not just the public ip
[08:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> PudgePacket: what dongle
[08:33] <PudgePacket> ntzrmtthihu777, is there a command i can run that will show it's full name?
[08:33] <usr13> PudgePacket: lspci
[08:33] <Ben64> lspci
[08:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> PudgePacket: what they said
[08:34] <Seveas> lspci doesn't list usb devices. You'll want lsusb
[08:34] <Seveas> PudgePacket: --^
[08:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> PudgePacket: what he said
[08:34] <Seveas> ntzrmtthihu777: TWSS :P
[08:34] <PudgePacket> Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8192CU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[08:35] <Seveas> !realtek
[08:35] <dchevak> yea have but I use ubuntu for my kids to watch movies I like to copy them and save DVD from getting scratched up but whatever version I have had I always seem to end up with updating problems
[08:36] <usr13> dchevak: using ufw?
[08:36] <dchevak> thats why i have been looking at switching everything to CentOS
[08:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> dchevak: do not update, back up your data and re-install the new one. I have yet to hear of a successfull in-system update.
[08:38] <dchevak> Disabled and iptables keep showing REJECT ALL rule that keeps comming up 2 of them right after each other
[08:38] <histo> dchevak: what sort of updating problems?
[08:38] <dchevak> I have deleted and disabled UFW
[08:38] <histo> dchevak: ufw just controls iptables.
[08:38] <usr13> dchevak: What were you using it for in the first place?
[08:38] <usr13> dchevak:  It would have more-than-likely left the scipt behind.
[08:39] <dchevak> apt-get seems to work on fresh install but then when I try and apt-get install update I get cant find update package
[08:39] <usr13> demonspork:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[08:39] <usr13> dchevak: Did you ever do apt-get upgrade ?
[08:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: fail.
[08:39] <zetheroo> anyone with experience working with GlusterFS in Ubuntu?
[08:40] <zetheroo> maybe I should be asking this in #ubuntu-server :P
[08:41] <dchevak> I am trying to run 1 DNS servers 1 slave and let my kids watch movies while it helps with DNS server for main system
[08:41] <Seveas> dchevak: 'apt-get install update' will try to install a package named 'update'. This package does not exist. I think you're looking for 'apt-get update' (download new package lists) and 'apt-get upgrade' (update installed packages)
[08:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Seveas: I can't believe I did not see that...
[08:42] <dchevak> I tried all kinds of things including using aptitude
[08:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> dchevak: run exactly what Seveas typed.
[08:43] <usr13> dchevak: "run 1 DNS servers"?
[08:43] <Seveas> ntzrmtthihu777: he's not able to run anything right now he said :)
[08:44] <usr13> dchevak: Are you sure it's not just a network problem?
[08:44] <dchevak> 1 master DNS 1 slave 1 webserver
[08:45] <dchevak> I might hook up to allow user to use internet later but for now I am running everything as wireless intranet
[08:46] <usr13> dchevak: That's probably why apt doesn't run.
[08:47] <dchevak> using joomla 2.5.9 I was going to upgrade to joomla 3.0 but decided to wait a while while they make more extensions for it
[08:47] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:47] <cristian_c> How can I switch audio from mono to stereo?
[08:47] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:48] <Seveas> dchevak: I don't mean to sound rude, but why don't we resume this when you get back home and we can actually try things out? Troubleshooting is pretty difficult if you can't provide extra info or try things.
[08:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> cristian_c: the sound menu under system settings would be a good place to start, if not pavucontrol
[08:48] <dchevak> it has internet access when needed for updates but dont keep it hooked up to internet 300 people would kill my bandwidth limit
[08:49] <cristian_c> ntzrmtthihu777, if I launch pavucontrol, a message appears in the window
[08:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> what message
[08:50] <cristian_c> ntzrmtthihu777, 'Connection to PulseAudio failed. Automatic retry in 5s'
[08:51] <cristian_c> ntzrmtthihu777, and 'In this case is likely because PULSE_SERVER in the Environment/X11 Root Window Properties or default-server in client.conf is misconfigured.'
[08:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> cristian_c: beyond me if you can't do that, sorry. do you have high-end soundcard that does not have good linux support/
[08:52] <angel> #quizz
[08:52] <cristian_c> ntzrmtthihu777, and 'This situation can also arrise when PulseAudio crashed and left stale details in the X11 Root Window.'
[08:54] <jony> AAA, I know how to setup in fstab, but I will need a system restart every time when I want to mount that share? :(
[08:54] <cristian_c> ntzrmtthihu777, and 'If this is the case, then PulseAudio should autospawn again, or if this is not configured you should run start-pulseaudio-x11manually.'
[08:55] <cristian_c> ntzrmtthihu777, but I can't use properly my headphones
[08:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> cristian_c: see previous comment, beyond me.
[08:55] <cristian_c> ntzrmtthihu777, music is out only from a channel
[08:55] <cristian_c> ntzrmtthihu777, I don'tunderstand
[08:55] <cristian_c> *don't
[08:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> cristian_c: I mean I do not have your solution, sorry.
[08:56] <cristian_c> ntzrmtthihu777, previously it was not so
[08:56] <greek> Hi fellas. I am connected to the internet via wireless connection to an ADSL router (in the office next door). I have another router next to my computer, which I can directly connect to via network cable. Our local dev server is also plugged into this router. I would like to connect to this router and access the dev server whilst still being connected to the wireless ADSL router for internet. Is this possible?
[08:56] <cristian_c> :(
[08:56] <dchevak> well where I live GCI is installing new equipment and there wont be internet when I get home for a week or 2 we fly to a bigger Village where they have hospital for my daughter while im at the hotel using there internet I was just see what might be the permissions problem or another software beside UFW that would be writing rules to iptable and putting in REJECT ALL rule in
[08:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> cristian_c: sorry, not my area of knowledge.
[08:57] <angel> Hi!
[08:58] <alex88> greek: sure, just connect to them both, and set to not get default route from the local cable router
[08:58] <angel> How can i join #quizz
[08:58] <greek> alex88, thanks, the latter bit of that sentence, how do i do that?
[08:58] <angel> I did not remember how
[08:58] <alex88> angel: type /join #quizz
[08:58] <Ben64> angel: /join
[08:59] <angel> thks
[08:59] <alex88> greek: first, are those in the same network subnet?
[08:59] <alex88> I mean, are the 2 routers connected together?
[08:59] <angel> I don't know exactly
[09:00] <angel> i'm gone search in google as my best friend
[09:00] <greek> alex88, nope
[09:01] <alex88> greek: which ubuntu are you?
[09:01] <greek> 12.04
[09:01] <hawken> LTS
[09:01] <rking> What's a nice way to install a VCS version of some software?  E.g. I like running a very-recent tmux, vim, weechat, etc. Is there a handy way to say, "Build from this git clone, but install via the package manager" ?
[09:02] <alex88> greek: so in the network configuration, go to the cable network configuration, search for a button like "advanced"
[09:02] <alex88> sorry but I'm not familiar with ubuntu gui :)
[09:02] <Ben64> rking: you can look for a ppa, but it's unsupported
[09:02] <alex88> greek:  oh wait, I've a vm with ubuntu desktop, let me search
[09:02] <rking> Ben64: Hrm. Is there a list of good PPAs, or do you just start Googling and hope you can find one?
[09:03] <Ben64> usually just google something like "wine ppa"
[09:03] <alex88> rking: well, the main project developers of each one usually provides ppa for bleeding edge versions
[09:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> rking: what are you looking for?
[09:03] <Ben64> rking: unless you need a newer version, you should just stick with what ubuntu gives
[09:04] <greek> alex88, ok thanks
[09:05] <alex88> greek: so, got the desktop, on top bar, click on network icon, edit connections, wired connection, edit, ipv4 settings, routes, flag "Use this connection only for resources on its network", ok, save, close and connect the cable
[09:06] <rking> ntzrmtthihu777: I just like new versions of things. It's fun to be on the edge, learning the latest features, helping debug any new problems.
[09:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> rking: true. I got a few cutting edge ppa's myself.
[09:07] <rking> Ben64: I'm not a n00b so much as I'm an Ubuntu-n00b.
[09:07] <rking> alex88: OK, that makes sense.
[09:08] <alex88> rking: ?
[09:08] <rking> alex88: Re: finding a specific PPA for any given project.
[09:08] <alex88> rking: oh sorry :) forgot about that .9
[09:08] <rking> That's actually a really good way, because then I can triangulate bugs to specific package versions
[09:09] <dr_willis> if an app is in the repos.. that makes compiling from source a bit easier also.. you can pull in all the needed dependencies to compile it with the  build-dep  option to apt-get i recall
[09:09] <dr_willis> used to compile weechat all the time..
[09:09] <rking> OK, that makes sense.
[09:10]  * rking tries to shake the dust off his Debian skills.
[09:10] <greek> alex88, you're a genius, that works great, thanks :)
[09:10] <alex88> greek: I wish :) np :)
[09:11] <rking> Man, I tell you one thing from Gentoo I miss already: not having exclusive locking on package installs.
[09:12] <dr_willis> !pin
[09:12] <alex88> greek: remember to remove that flag when you need internet by cable
[09:12] <rking> I wonder if they're ever going to fix that with dpkg
[09:12] <rking> dr_willis: No I mean: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:13] <Abhijit> rking, genoo allow two root instances to install a software at the very same time?
[09:13] <dr_willis> cant say its really an issue for most people. things install so quickly
[09:13] <Seveas> rking: no, that's not something they're going to "fix" as it's a feature, not a bug.
[09:13] <rking> With emerge you can fire of 30 of them at once if you wanted. Really helps you ease into a new machine, because you typically want to kick off a big install of some ones you think of right away, but then as you're waiting it's nice to cherrypick specific ones
[09:13] <rking> Abhijit: Yep. Turbo m0de.
[09:13] <rking> Seveas: How is that a feature?
[09:14] <Seveas> rking: consistency over ludicrous speed
[09:14] <Abhijit> rking, and it do not create any conflict or overwriting etc?
[09:14]  * rking wonders if Firefox should add the "feature" of only allowing you to download one file at a time.
[09:14] <rking> Abhijit: I've never seen it do one thing wrong. I don't even know what might possibly go wrong.
[09:14] <Abhijit> rking, i suggest you to try installing libreoffice and opeoffice at same time in your gentoo and lets see what happens.
[09:14] <oceanne> bonjours :)
[09:14] <Seveas> Abhijit: add a kernel and firefox install and the computer will melt
[09:15] <rking> Especially since so many parts of the resource usage are different: while one package is using network to download, another is using disk to install, while another is using CPU to extract
[09:15] <Abhijit> yep tell that to rking
[09:15] <Seveas> rking: now there's a feature I want: don't wait for all packages to download before starting to install the first one.
[09:16] <rking> I'm sure you "could" break it, by doing pathological things, but I don't see why I need to wait for gcc to finish installing while I also install htop
[09:16] <Abhijit> rking, i think at the backend its just smartly using the resources but not actually 'installing' the package at 'very' same time. its just creating illusion to user that it is doing it at same time.
[09:16] <rking> Abhijit: If that's the case, that's cool.
[09:16] <Seveas> Maybe we can get canonical to replace apt with something else :)
[09:16] <teset> hi
[09:16] <Seveas> hello teset
[09:16] <^Zew^> hi
[09:16] <teset> im installing lubuntu 10.04
[09:17] <jostdotcom> q: how to fix this response using suggested command after apt-get update: W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20120823.1)/dists/precise/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[09:17] <teset> installation seem stop
[09:17] <Abhijit> !10.04
[09:17] <Abhijit> teset, its eol
[09:17] <teset> at running dpkg
[09:17] <Abhijit> why don't you get latest version?
[09:17] <Seveas> jostdotcom: remove the CD from /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:17] <dr_willis> jostdotcom:  are you using some packages from a cdrom? if not  remove the cdrom from your sources listings
[09:17] <teset> eol?
[09:17] <teset> i have an old pc
[09:18] <teset> with ISA audio card
[09:18] <Abhijit> teset, 10.04 support is going to end whithin a month. why don't you get latest version?
[09:18] <jostdotcom> will do..thanks.
[09:18] <teset> ISA audio card
[09:18] <teset> old..
[09:18] <greek> alex88, gotcha, will make a note of it :) cheers mate
[09:18] <jostdotcom> did apt-get upgrade...did not take i guess?
[09:18] <Seveas> teset: Ubuntu 10.04 (and thus lubuntu 10.04) will no longer receive support/updates. Either get a new PC or run an OS suitable for your old pc. Ubuntu is not that OS I think.
[09:18] <alex88> have fun
[09:18] <dr_willis> and you  are sure support for it has been removed from newer versions teset >
[09:18] <Abhijit> teset, you can still install driver for that in latest ubuntu.
[09:19] <teset> ISA audio??
[09:19] <teset> i have not  soundblaster
[09:19] <Seveas> Abhijit: isa sound card also indicates a pc that was build in the last century. No way unity & co will run on that.
[09:19] <teset> but yamaha old opl3 sax....
[09:19] <marcreichelt> Hi there! Did anyone get VirtualBox (package 'virtualbox') to run ob Ubuntu 12.04 (latest updates)?
[09:19] <Abhijit> then use lubuntu or xubuntu in that cas teset
[09:19] <Ben64> marcreichelt: yes
[09:19] <jostdotcom> i thought apt-get distro-upgrade would have given me the latest version for all....
[09:19] <dr_willis> teset:  test with a lubuntu  12.04 live cd perhaps
[09:19] <Seveas> Abhijit: even that... It's a piece of unsupportable trash :)
[09:20] <Abhijit> :-)
[09:20] <marcreichelt> I can't get it to run on my newest Laptop because it has warnings when compiling the kernel module virtualbox-dkms...
[09:20] <Seveas> (not lubuntu/xubuntu, the HW)
[09:20] <Abhijit> Arch is the way!
[09:20] <marcreichelt> It runs fine on my ThinkPad, though :/
[09:20] <Seveas> Abhijit: and grease is the word!
[09:20] <Abhijit> :-p
[09:20] <teset> there no way for ISA yamaha card????
[09:20] <marcreichelt> Ben64, how did you get it to run? Or didn't you have problems with DKMS?
[09:20] <Touhou11> jostdotcom: If you want a version of Linux which upgrades automatically (rolling release), you might like Debian Testing or Arch Linux
[09:20] <Seveas> marcreichelt: is there a specific reason you want virtualbox instead of kvm and virt-manager?
[09:20] <dr_willis> teset:  Try a 12.04 lubuntu live cd and see if you get sound...
[09:21] <Ben64> marcreichelt: uh, i just ran it
[09:21] <marcreichelt> Seveas, yes (and I also use KVM, but for other reasons)
[09:21] <jostdotcom> understood...i like ubuntu...just got to watch that from now on...thanks all
[09:21] <teset> i know that new linux kernel dont support  ISA audio.....
[09:21] <Seveas> marcreichelt: ok, just wanted to make sure you're aware of alternatives as I don't have an actual answer :)
[09:21] <teset> maybe new Lubuntu des it???
[09:21] <Abhijit> teset, this page says something about setting up old isa card. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards
[09:22] <Ben64> teset: how do you know it doesn't support it
[09:22] <marcreichelt> somehow the DKMS module can't be built because there is an 'implicit declaration of the function do_mmap'...
[09:22] <teset> ISA too old
[09:22] <Seveas> teset: newer kernels still support ISA audio. However, if your PC still has ISA audio, it's probably too old to run any modern, supported distro reasonably well.
[09:22] <Seveas> !virtualbox | marcreichelt this may help
[09:22] <Ben64> teset: you should just get a newer computer then
[09:22] <teset> audio work on my pc with Puppy 4.3
[09:22] <rking> Dang. I wonder if I really need 50 *.ubuntu.com sources
[09:23] <teset> no sound with last 5.5 puppy..
[09:23] <Seveas> teset: then run puppy. Why switch?
[09:23] <marcreichelt> Seveas, no, it doesn't
[09:23] <marcreichelt> it seems I am affected by this bug: md64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[09:23] <teset> i want install a python sotware....
[09:23] <marcreichelt> arghh
[09:23] <teset> anki2
[09:23] <marcreichelt> I mean this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1008966
[09:23] <rking> precise{,-security}/{main,multiverse,restricted} {amd64,i386} <- Lots of combos
[09:23] <teset> because i selected Lubuntu...
[09:24] <teset> installation is stopped
[09:25] <teset> on running DPKG
[09:25] <teset> 85%
[09:25] <Seveas> teset: we've told you numerous times now that 10.04 is out of support, that lubuntu is not the best choice for your pc and that really, your pc is too old. We will not be able to help you.
[09:25] <teset> and Cd driver run....
[09:25] <teset> ok
[09:25] <teset> pentium2..
[09:26] <Ben64> i got pentium 2 computers for free about 10 years ago, i'm sure you can get something better now
[09:26] <teset> now i will have Grub problem....
[09:26] <Seveas> yes. That's 20 years old. Trash it.
[09:26] <Touhou11> Don't trash it, that PC is fine for a lot of things
[09:27] <Seveas> as a doorstop maybe
[09:27] <Touhou11> I love the idea that Linux can't be run on an old PC... maybe with Unity
[09:27] <Ben64> melt down into a cube
[09:27] <teset> with puppy i surf the web
[09:27] <teset> ok
[09:27] <Touhou11> You just need to use a more suitable Linux distribution, Ubuntu is too bloated these days
[09:27] <teset> install is going...
[09:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> hell make a server outta em, run minecraft ;)
[09:27] <dr_willis> I most likely have 5 better pcs in the garrage,, i cant give away
[09:28] <Ben64> minecraft wont work on a p2
[09:28] <teset> 93
[09:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> :(
[09:28] <dr_willis> I imagine my  $35 raspberrypi has better specs. ;P
[09:28] <Ben64> it does
[09:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: how are those? I've been hearing alot about them
[09:29] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  they do xbmc well. and used one as a znc server for a while.
[09:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I just discoverd xbmc the other day, damn cool it is.
[09:29] <rking> Dang. Some of these things are pretty nice. I'm glad to be learning Ubuntu.
[09:30] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  i got xbmc on my android phone now,
[09:32] <rking> dr_willis: What do you think of it?
[09:33] <dr_willis> it being what? ;)
[09:33] <rking> xbmc
[09:33] <dr_willis> works very well onc eyou learn to use it
[09:33] <rking> Cool
[09:34] <^Zew^> VLC works good  still likw the look of xbmc
[09:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: just discovered the .ogg format <3
[09:34] <dr_willis> xbmc does a lot more then what vlc does...
[09:34] <Touhou11> does xmbc for Raspberry Pi support the same features as the full version? Or does it support a restricted set of codecs?
[09:34] <dr_willis> Touhou11:  basically the same
[09:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: tell me, if you install xbmc on an ubuntu install that did not come with it pre-installed does it create the login option or do you have to do that manually?
[09:36] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  i got the xbmc session option here. Im not sure if thats from  xmbc in the repos.. or from the xbmc ppa im using
[09:36] <Ububegin> I am using Ubuntu 10.10 but want to upgrade to the latest Qt https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/qt4-qmake/4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4 .. How should I go about updating to this ? I cant update my Ubuntu for various reasons.
[09:36] <dr_willis> I tend to put xbmc on the 2nd monitor
[09:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: 2 monitors? so jelly. oh well, still lovin my touchscreen :D
[09:37] <PudgePacket> Ok, so i've been trying to install the driver for my wireless usb adapter for some time now and i keep running into hurdles.
[09:37] <PudgePacket> First, the install script required make
[09:37] <PudgePacket> which i was able to download, transfer to the computer, and install
[09:37] <dr_willis> PudgePacket:  you sure the addational-drivers tool dosent show the pacakges for the wifi thing?
[09:37] <PudgePacket> Then make required gcc, which i haven't been able to install, namely because it has so many prerequisites and i can't find them all.
[09:38] <dr_willis> I got a $5 wifi usb dongle on amazon that works out of the box.. ifi got a laptop i need to get the other wifi going via a download.. i use the cheap wifi to get the built in one going
[09:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> PudgePacket: save your self a load of trouble, hook up with ethernet and intsall.
[09:38] <dr_willis> running a wire - is the  easiest way   ;)
[09:38] <PudgePacket> ntzrmtthihu777 the ethernet port is broken. that's why im using wireless
[09:38] <PudgePacket> dr_willis, where can i find the additional-drivers tool?
[09:39] <dr_willis> PudgePacket:  what ubuntu  version?
[09:39] <PudgePacket> lubuntu 12.10
[09:39] <Ububegin> I am using Ubuntu 10.10 but want to upgrade to the latest Qt https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/qt4-qmake/4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4 .. How should I go about updating to this ? I cant update my Ubuntu for various reasons.
[09:39] <dr_willis> under the  software sources tool. the  last tab for 12.10
[09:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> PudgePacket: then in the software center
[09:39] <dr_willis> you  will still need some sort of network connection
[09:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ububegin: maveric is no longer supported, methinks.
[09:40] <Seveas> Ububegin: the best answer is "you don't". You'll spend more time in recompiling many apps and fixing resulting bugs than it takes to update to 12.10
[09:41] <PudgePacket> dr_willis, so there's basically nothing I can do until I can find another wireless adapter that ubuntu will support out of the box?
[09:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> this ^
[09:41] <Seveas> So those "various reasons" you have need to be fixed. What are they?
[09:41] <Touhou11> Ububegin: You could always compile Qt from source, otherwise upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu
[09:41] <PudgePacket> It's quite annoying, I have another computer sitting here with internet and I still can't get the other working
[09:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> PudgePacket: without getting stuck in dependency hell.
[09:41] <PudgePacket> :/
[09:41] <Ububegin> Touhou11: Oh bugger... thanks
[09:42] <dr_willis> PudgePacket:  its dooable.. the
[09:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> PudgePacket: you may be able to make a bash script to grab your dependencies on the working machine...
[09:42] <dr_willis> that tool will show if you need to compile or not
[09:42] <Capprentice> What tool should I use to clone my whole HDD ? I have 500 GB SATA HDD, now I have purchased 1TB SATA HDD. I have Ubuntu , Windows and Fedora on my old HDD. When I clone my HDD should I have to keep the partition structure ? Should I use remastersys for copying the system ?
[09:43] <Ben64> Capprentice: you could still boot off the old one and use the new one as storage
[09:43] <Seveas> Capprentice: copying it over with dd and then using gparted to create an additional 500GB partition may work
[09:43] <Seveas> Capprentice: though I would do what Ben64 said or just reinstall everything if you don't want the 500GB one anymore
[09:44] <Capprentice> Ben64,  Both of them are healthy HDD. So yes Im now using it. I just want to switch my Old HDD with new one. New one came with 7500 RPM and OLD one is 5700 RPM
[09:46] <Ben64> Capprentice: well then you can use dd, or i think gparted can copy partitions to a new drive
[09:46] <Capprentice> Seveas,  Yes I agree, but installing from scratch is a tiresome job. I have make lots of customizations by following numerous guides on the internet, more of those I dont remmber. If I lost everything it gonna take lots of time to do so.
[09:48] <Capprentice> Ben64,  Im not much confident about using command line. Is there any gui tool that can do the same ? In Gparted I dont see an option for drive cloning. Where Is the option located ?
[09:53] <PudgePacket> Ok, so as a last resort, is there any way (because i've installed using Wubi tool) that I can go into the windows partition and grab the wireless usb adapter drivers?
[09:54] <bekks> PudgePacket: Most likely, you cant.
[09:54] <VinceThePrince> Anyone have experience with GlobalProtect VPN and Ubuntu?
[09:56] <ponke_> !ask
[10:06] <blinkyb> Hi. I need help with Empathy please
[10:06] <blinkyb> How can I set my Lavabit email to work with Empathy instant messaging? https://lavabit.com/settings.html
[10:07] <dr_willis> empathy does email?
[10:07] <bekks> Not until today :)
[10:09] <aLeSD> hi all
[10:09] <aLeSD> is it possible to install ubuntu desktop in non graphical mode ?
[10:10] <dr_willis> you mean use a text based installer?
[10:10] <aLeSD> dr_willis, yes
[10:10] <dr_willis> alternative installer or the mini cd.
[10:10] <dr_willis> !mini
[10:10] <aLeSD> ok thanks
[10:11] <dr_willis> no alt  cd for  12.10
[10:11] <edu> Hi there, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 wih default gnome and devilspie to open a script (it opens screen+irssi) in Terminal. I want it to move to a diferent workspace. The problem is that in devilspie I cannot match application_name because I only want that script not all terminals I open. Is there a way to change the application_name in bash? Thanks
[10:11] <Touhou11> Or you can use the server version, that doesn't install any GUI by default
[10:13] <aLeSD> dr_willis, so ? 12.10 ... ?
[10:15] <aLeSD> dr_willis, what about install server edition ... then install unity ?
[10:16] <bekks> aLeSD: Install a desktop kernel, in addition, and you'll have a full blown unity desktop then.
[10:22] <MorpheusxNL> anyone has an idea what we can expect in 13.04
[10:22] <MorpheusxNL> as in new features
[10:22] <Touhou11> I don't think there many new features, most developers have been moved onto Ubuntu Phone
[10:23] <ceegee> hi there
[10:23] <Anonissimus> having a problem with a java applet in chromium
[10:23] <Anonissimus> the one on the sun page loads fine
[10:23] <Anonissimus> bu this an ssl vpn aplet that just won't load in chromium
[10:24] <ceegee> I created a LUKS encrypted partition and want it to get mountet on boot. I edited the /etc/crypttab file and executed update-initramfs -u -k all, but I will not be asked for its password on boot
[10:24] <ceegee> what am I doing wrong?
[10:25] <dpy> hi guys
[10:25] <dpy> I upgraded to 12.04 yesterday, and now my /tmp folder is completely empty after reboot
[10:26] <MorpheusxNL> dpy: did you expect soemthing else?
[10:26] <dpy> I hate this behaviour, therefore I once added TMPTIME=60 to /etc/default/rcS, but nothing honoured that variable, so it seems
[10:27] <dpy> has it changed?
[10:27] <MorpheusxNL> dpy: well i assume that when you upgrade that those things will be reset
[10:27] <dpy> no it didn't, it still reads TMPTIME=60
[10:28] <dpy> but the bootclean initscript is gone as well
[10:28] <dpy> so my guess is the mechanism for clean /tmp has changed
[10:28] <dpy> cleaning
[10:28] <MorpheusxNL> dpy: that i don't know.
[10:29] <aLeSD> is there any alternative to freeNX ?
[10:29] <dpy> ah, "Cleaning the /tmp is done by /etc/init/mounted-tmp.conf now."
[10:29] <bekks> aLeSD: "nomachine nx"
[10:29] <vlt> Hello. I have a “home” folder icon on my desktop but I don’t know how it came there. ~/Desktop is empty. Any idea?
[10:29] <aLeSD> lol
[10:29] <bekks> aLeSD: Thats the alternative to freenx.
[10:30] <dpy> but that file still source /etc/default/rcS and uses TMPTIME
[10:30] <aLeSD> bekks: I have a machine under virtual box and I want to access it in a fast way remotely
[10:30] <dpy> I guess some other moronic script did a rm -rf /tmp/*
[10:30] <HorizonXP> hey guys, trying to figure out how to fix this piece of code: https://github.com/mattupstate/flask-social/blob/develop/flask_social/views.py#L198
[10:31] <bekks> aLeSD: Then either freenx or nx are your choices.
[10:31] <dpy> ah
[10:31] <HorizonXP> basically, that redirect function returns a BaseResponse object that isn't iterable, so it raises an exception back on line 205
[10:32] <dpy> I read here that, if during the upgrade disk space runs out, /tmp/* is the first one that will be "automagically" cleaned
[10:32] <HorizonXP> easiest thing is to have it return a None object, and then use a conditional to figure out what to do
[10:32] <HorizonXP> oh crap
[10:32] <HorizonXP> wrong channel :-/
[10:32] <HorizonXP> sorry!
[10:34] <jony> if I setup in fstab to mount a network share in a folder, I must restart my PC every time when I want to mount that share?
[10:35] <dr_willis> jony:  no
[10:35] <bekks> No, thats not necessary.
[10:36] <jony> dr_willis, but I'm migrating very often between networks and I plan to put in fstab different shares from different networks
[10:37] <bekks> jony: Which still doesnt enforce reboots to mount your shares.
[10:37] <dr_willis> use the noauto option. mount when needed
[10:37] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:48] <Mavrik> jony, I suggest you check out autofs
[10:48] <vlt> Hello. I have a “home” folder icon on my desktop but I don’t know how it came there. ~/Desktop is empty. Any idea?
[10:49] <purplerain> Doing full upgrade (incl. updating kernel to 3.2.0.38) via dist-upgrade broke my (K)ubuntu, i got flickering webcam and tearing screen. But when i choose previous kernel version which is 3.2.0.37 from GRUB the issue won't fix. What to do?
[10:51] <jony> Mavrik, I can mount with that in a folder and be it writeable?
[10:51] <jony> bekks, how can I reload fstab without restarting?
[10:52] <Hyperiant> How can I fix compiz eating up all my CPU?
[10:52] <bekks> jony: You dont have to reload it at all. Eadd an entry for /my/share and just sudo mount /my/share
[10:53] <jony> bekks, if I mount like this, in the mounted folder the content it's only read-only :(
[10:53] <bekks> jony: Then your entry has to be changed to mount it r/w.
[10:53] <bekks> jony: Or even changed to be mountable by users.
[10:54] <jony> I tried this: sudo smbmount //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server -o user=jony
[10:55] <jony> bekks, I tried this: sudo smbmount //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server -o user=jony
[10:55] <bekks> jony: Thats not an entry for the /etc/fstab
[10:55] <jony> bekks, but it mounts only read-only
[10:55] <bekks> jony: Then your user does not have write permissions on that share.
[10:56] <jony> bekks, it haves, because if I connect to the share via file manager "Connect to Server..." function, it will mount the share with full rights
[10:59] <schueler33> moin
[10:59] <GeilerHengst31> Ouh man..
[10:59] <schueler30> moin
[10:59] <schueler33> wo seit ihr????
[10:59] <schueler30> schütteee
[11:00] <GeilerHengst31> Mein 12.40 bekommt andauernd fehlermeldungen.
[11:00] <wo> dopmenik isn spasst
[11:00] <DJones> !de |
[11:00] <schueler30> malin und niklas dream
[11:00] <Ben64> we don't need 4 copies of you, schueler30 schueler33 GeilerHengst31 wo
[11:00] <TakeItEZ> !ops | schueler* GeilerHengst31 wo spamkids
[11:00] <schueler30>  j
[11:00] <schueler30> j
[11:00] <schueler30> j
[11:00] <schueler30> j
[11:00] <FloodBot1> schueler30: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:00] <wo> j
[11:00] <schueler33> ja wie englisch
[11:01] <schueler33> z
[11:01] <DJones> !de > schueler33:
[11:01] <Ben64> DJones: they're clones, its not worth it
[11:01] <schueler33> makker
[11:01] <schueler30> ich fick luther gruß schütte
[11:01] <TakeItEZ> teacher left the room...
[11:01] <jony> dr_willis, but I'm migrating very often between networks and I plan to put in fstab different shares from different networks
[11:01] <wo> iiii9
[11:01] <jony> I'm migrating very often between networks and I plan to put in fstab different shares from different networks
[11:02] <jony> does not slows down the system?
[11:02] <wo> lo
[11:02] <GeilerHengst31> idk
[11:02] <elky> DJones, sorry, didn't see you there
[11:02] <jony> if for. ex a network share specified in fstab is from another network and it's not available
[11:02] <schueler30> jony du penner geh weg
[11:02] <jony> schueler30, what?
[11:02] <TakeItEZ> jony: ignore them
[11:04] <jony> who can help me with fstab?
[11:04] <Ben64> jony: could you repeat the question, all on one line, with all relevant details?
[11:05] <superdo> hi, anyone succ. figured out, how to switch Firefox to fullsceen on a two monitor system (laptop+monitor)
[11:05] <superdo> it goes always to the attached monitor..
[11:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i'm chatin' through dolphin...pretty sweet
[11:07] <jony> I'm migrating very often between some networks and I want the easiest method how to mount different network shares from different networks in /mnt folder (for ex) with full write access
[11:08] <Ben64> jony: yeah that'd probably be fstab. check this out - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[11:09] <FerkSwe> Hey, I'm having this annoying issue where my regional settings revert all the time. Here's a picture of my settings. They are this way when I log in, but I still have an english keyboard. http://i.imgur.com/MEZDZOI.png
[11:09] <chicognu> chicao@chicao-VirtualBox:~$ sudo iw phy phy0 interface add ah0 type ibss chicao@chicao-VirtualBox:~$ sudo ifconfig ah0 up SIOCSIFFLAGS: Não há espaço de buffer disponível (there is no buffer space)
[11:09] <chicognu> anyone know what the problem is ?
[11:09] <jony> Ben64, but let's say I'm changing from network1 to network2. Does fstab automatically mount the specified shares from network2?
[11:10] <PieFace57754_> Morning all
[11:10] <tas> morning
[11:10] <Ben64> jony: I think it just does it on boot
[11:10] <jony> that's the problem, I don't want to reboot every time
[11:10] <PieFace57754_> Quick question, does anyone know how to get the Intel X79 raid working on Ubuntu 12.04? Gparted is showing the two (RAID1) drives seperately...?
[11:10] <Ben64> jony: but, you can do "sudo mount -a" to mount everything in fstab
[11:10] <jony> Ben64, that's the problem, I don't want to reboot every time
[11:11] <jony> Ben64, but what will happen to unavailable shares? it will slow down the mounting process?
[11:11] <Ben64> it just wont mount
[11:12] <chicognu> When i try to up a virtual wireless interface it says there is no buffer space, why ?
[11:12] <bekks> jony: You dont have to reboot for mountng a share.
[11:12] <TakeItEZ> jony: you need to set smbmount suid-root, then you can mount those shares as user. just define them all in fstab with credentials etc. + "noauto" option
[11:12] <Ben64> don't need to suid anything : /
[11:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> http://postimage.org/image/kyspz1ty5/ using dolping and irssi ubuntu
[11:13] <TakeItEZ> Ben64: to mount winshares as user you need
[11:13] <Ben64> just sudo mount -a
[11:13] <bekks> TakeItEZ: Not needed to suid something.
[11:13] <Ben64> setuid is almost always the wrong way to do something
[11:13] <bekks> TakeItEZ: Add the oprion to mount as user into the fstab - done.
[11:13] <TakeItEZ> thats root, not user (sudoers even)
[11:13] <Cv_> Hello every body
[11:13] <Cv_> i need help
[11:14] <bekks> TakeItEZ: Please take a look at the mount options before suggesting to setuid something unnecessarily.
[11:14] <PieFace57754_> At the right place then :)
[11:14] <Cv_> im instaling ubuntu 13.04 in oem mode
[11:14] <bekks> Cv_: Then the right place is #ubuntu+1 :)
[11:14] <Cv_> after run the prep end user configuration im shutdown
[11:14] <Cv_> sorry
[11:16] <captainlinux> Let's say I have Ubuntu installed on my hdd. If I shrink the size of my hdd, create a new partition and install, for example windows 7. Will it mess up grub on that hdd?
[11:16] <TakeItEZ> bekks: try it
[11:16] <Seveas> captainlinux: no, but it will mess up your filesystem
[11:16] <Us3r_Unfriendly> captainlinux: yes
[11:16] <Ben64> captainlinux: shrinking won't mess up grub. creating a partition won't either. installing windows will mess grub up though.
[11:16] <bekks> TakeItEZ: I know it is the wrong approach to use setuid, when there is a mount option giving users full access to mount/unmount.
[11:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> captainlinux: your talking about dual booting?
[11:17] <edu_____1> which command uses when i press Crtl+Alt+T?
[11:17] <captainlinux> So It's like Windows will install it's own bootloader, right?
[11:17] <Ben64> yeah
[11:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> captainlinux: windows will rewrite the mbr
[11:17] <TakeItEZ> bekks: "users" as mount option still fails until smbmount isn't setuid root
[11:17] <captainlinux> Just trying to understand the process of how grub and the bootloader works...
[11:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> captainlinux: so after install of windows you'll redo your grub from within a live cd
[11:17] <captainlinux> In general.
[11:19] <captainlinux> But if I install Windows first and Ubuntu based OS it will ask me if I want to install the OS alongside windows... So basically the OS will install GRUB and add Windows to the boot menu?
[11:19] <Ben64> captainlinux: correct
[11:20] <captainlinux> So it's like the mbr points to the bootloader and everytime I install another OS it gets overwritten and pointed to the just-installed os's bootloader?
[11:20] <Cv_> the ubuntu+1 work?
[11:20] <bekks> captainlinux: The MBR contains the bootloader, it doesnt point to it.
[11:21] <jony> Ben64, it worked with fstab, now the share is writeable, TY!
[11:21] <jony> bekks, it worked with fstab, now the share is writeable, TY!
[11:22] <captainlinux> Oh, okay. So it's more like the windows mbr (which contains the bootloader) gets deleted and grub is placed instead and vice versa?
[11:22] <jony> TakeItEZ, how can I set the suid-root?
[11:22] <bekks> jony: You dont have to do it, since it already works for you - as you just said.
[11:23] <jony> so after connecting to another network, just lunch sudo mount -a ?
[11:23] <TakeItEZ> jony: you don#t need if you use sudo
[11:23] <jony> bekks, so after connecting to another network, just lunch sudo mount -a ?
[11:24] <bekks> jony: If the /etc/fstab reflects your shares, yes.
[11:25] <PieFace57754_> If anyone has time to look at this Intel X79 Raid question I'd be really appreciative http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2125501&p=12557010
[11:25] <jony> bekks, and fstab just skips those specified shares which are unavailable?
[11:25] <TakeItEZ> jony: if you are using several different networks, its worth the time to look at "guessnet" to automate those mounts
[11:25] <bekks> jony: Just test it :)
[11:25] <captainlinux> And in grub the os-prober is responsible for the detection of other operating systems installed on the hdd?
[11:25] <bekks> captainlinux: Yes.
[11:25] <jony> bekks, I will do that, TY!
[11:26] <bekks> PieFace57754_: Your board does not have a hardware raid controller, so you cant use a hardware RAID. You have to setup a software RAID, when wanting to have a mirror across your disks.
[11:27] <captainlinux> So that when I have for example ubuntu installed then I additionally did a windows install, then repaired grub with live cd it will rewrite the mbr and the os-prober will detect windows and put it to the grub menu list?
[11:27] <bekks> captainlinux: Yes.
[11:27] <jony> TakeItEZ, you specified the "noauto" function, what does it do?
[11:27] <captainlinux> bekks: Okay, thank you very much. That helped me a lot to understand the whole process! :)
[11:28] <captainlinux> Thanks to everyone.
[11:28] <captainlinux> Have a nice day.
[11:28] <TakeItEZ> jony: what it says: it doesn#t mount automatically, you have to mount manually
[11:28] <bekks> jony: It skips automounting.
[11:28] <TakeItEZ> jony: "man mount"
[11:29] <ee12059>       /join #nome
[11:29] <ee12059> ht
[11:29] <jony> so when I lunch "mount -a" it will not mount my specified shares?
[11:29] <bekks> If you set them to noauto - no.
[11:30] <jony> bekks, and how can I mount a "nouato" share then?
[11:31] <serpenthelm> Is there a way to open a nautilus folder from an html file via a link? This is for local use only
[11:31] <bekks> jony: by typing sudo mount /mountpoint/of/your/share
[11:31] <jony> bekks, TY I will try that
[11:32] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: I solved my problem; if you find anybody who experiences unity breaking after installing fglrx, tell them to run sudo apt-get update and sudi
[11:32] <Hyperiant> *sudo apt-get upgrade until there's no more
[11:33] <Hyperiant> Then reboot and it's fixed
[11:45] <doomlord> pointer Edge-Flipping in desktop wall , unity: sometimes it doesn't trigger - any ideas what could cause that - clash with the dock , clash with hotcorner triggering perhaps
[11:45] <doomlord> seems intermittent, e.g. if the dock activates the edge-flipping stops working for a little while (fix by manually activating expo)
[11:48] <Jarris> boot stuck becouse /home can not be mounted. pressing "M" and entering "vgchange -ay" solves that. i think it is becouse the secound disk is decryptet by a keyfile, which is placed at disk one.. both disks contain lvm partitions. could anyone help me fixing this? thx in advance
[11:49] <OerHeks> edu edu_ edu__ edu___  edu______1 2 3 4 5 6 7 why are you logged in 17 times ?
[11:50] <serpenthelm> ubuntu precise virtual box and vagrant do not work together due to an incompatibility in version number of virtualbox
[11:51] <serpenthelm> got same error on a quantal install
[11:51] <serpenthelm> precise uses 4.1.12 and quantal 4.1.18
[11:51] <serpenthelm> i upped it to 4.2.x and it failed completely
[11:52] <nwillems> Hello there. I'm trying to setup a small network and would like to setup a DHCP server, which package is preferred? I see some talk about dnsmasq and dhcp3-server
[11:52] <bekks> serpenthelm: Then you did something wrong, to be honest. In #vbox there is no such problem known. And there, it woulf be known first. :)
[11:52] <serpenthelm> k
[11:53] <serpenthelm> edu is preading
[11:55] <OerHeks> edu edu_ edu__ edu___ edu____ edu____10 edu____11 edu____12 edu____13 edu_____ edu_____1 edu_____2 edu_____3 edu_____4 edu_____5 edu_____6 edu_____7 edu_____8 edu_____9 edu______ why do you have 20 clones ?
[11:56] <serpenthelm> keep asking, more appear
[11:56] <serpenthelm> think we have tribbles
[11:57] <serpenthelm> each using a diferent subdomain
[11:57] <serpenthelm> of freenode
[11:57] <selena2013> upgrade my ram runs faster now
[12:01] <gnuLix> Hello, guys. I use Qt and more specific "QProcess" to run the command "sudo su" and I would like to enter my password in a QTextEdit. As a result I receive "no tty present". What I can do in this case?
[12:01] <bekks> gnuLix: Dont run sudo su, use sudo -i instead.
[12:02] <gnuLix> bekks: this is the result->
[12:03] <gnuLix> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[12:03] <gnuLix> Sorry, try again.
[12:03] <gnuLix> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[12:03] <gnuLix> Sorry, try again.
[12:03] <gnuLix> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[12:03] <gnuLix> Sorry, try again.
[12:03] <gnuLix> sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts
[12:03] <bekks> Then you have to specify an askpass program at least.
[12:03] <bekks> sudo su is a very bad idea, that was my point.
[12:05] <gnuLix> bekks: I am really sorry for the stupid question but how should I specify an askpass program?
[12:09] <bekks> gnuLix: you could use ssh -t to localhost, using pubkey auth.
[12:10] <gnuLix> bekks. I see. Thank you very much!
[12:13] <freddy__> I want to give my nic more than one ip. How do I do that cli?
[12:17] <jerrycan321> test
[12:20] <somsip> !test | jerrycan321
[12:21] <mawk> hi
[12:21] <mawk> motd
[12:22] <aguitel> i am using radeon driver ,what need to install ,this xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd or this xserver-xorg-radeon ?
[12:27] <mJayk> aa
[12:32] <zxiest> Hello :-)
[12:32] <cfhowlett> zxiest, greetings
[12:32] <zxiest> let's say I have ls *.rb and I would like to do something on each of the files, how can I do this? Should I use a pipe | ?
[12:35] <leex_> zxiest: for f in *.rb; do; ... your command goes here...; done
[12:36] <zxiest> leex_:  nothing simpler than that? I remember having seen something as easy as forwarding the output of our command to another
[12:37] <leex_> zxiest: well yes, for that you can use a pipe: (this is a kind of useless example, but:) cat file | grep hello will
[12:38] <leex_> zxiest: maybe you could describe your usecase a bit better
[12:38] <zxiest> I would like to run ruby -Itest [filename goes here] on each file found in: ls test/**/*_test.rb
[12:39] <cesam1> salut les  amis
[12:39] <cesam1> comment vous allez?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> !fr|cesam1,
[12:39] <IdleOne> !fr | cesam1 Bien merci.
[12:40] <cesam1> yah! let's go!
[12:40] <cesam1> I can speak english!
[12:40] <fatninja> /W $ME
[12:41] <zxiest> !ar|zxiest,
[12:41] <zxiest> !arabic|zxiest,
[12:41] <leex_> zxiest: find + xargs
[12:41] <cesam1> Dears, can someone help me find a cyber cafe control software for ubuntu?
[12:41] <fatninja> ok so, I have a serious problem going on on 12.10. I try to record something with my microphone using audacity, it hears super ok but, there is a irritating noise (the mic isn't the problem because I tested it on a windows computer and worked like a charm)
[12:41] <Kajover> when is raring going to be released in april?
[12:42] <zxiest> leex_: cool, thanks :-)
[12:42] <bekks> leex_: zxiest: no need for xargs: find ... -exec yourcommand {} \;
[12:42] <leex_> bekks: or that ;)
[12:42] <leex_> there are many ways to handle this
[12:43] <zxiest> bekks: $1 would be the result of find?
[12:43] <bekks> zxiest: No.
[12:43] <bekks> zxiest: {} from the example above is the result of find.
[12:44] <theadmin> $1 normally refers t the first argument of a script.
[12:44] <zxiest> bekks: cool, thank you very much :-)
[12:44] <zxiest> theadmin: thanks :-)
[12:46] <zxiest> bekks: thank you very much! Working :-)
[12:46] <bekks> zxiest: You're welcome :)
[12:46] <Jemt> Hi. I just switched from Ubuntu 10.10 to 12.10 on my MacBookPro. Unfortunately my .Xmodmap (http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WvxBFPku) no longer works. I use it to map the Alt key to my Cmd key. It's like Ubuntu doesn't realize that I release the Cmd key (which is no working as Alt key) when I switch windows with Cmd (Alt) + Tab. Suggestions ?
[12:47] <theadmin> Jemt: Use xev to verify that Cmd emits these keycodes.
[12:47] <Jemt> Well, the window switcher shows up - but it doesn't disappear and open the selected window, when I release the keys
[12:47] <Jemt> theadmin, Ok, trying that
[12:47] <fire> if i am installing ubuntu 12.10 than when ever ubuntu 13.04 is released i have to isntall my system again ?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> fire,  you can direct upgrade
[12:48] <theadmin> fire: Not at all, you can just upgrade from within Ubuntu, it's a click of a button
[12:48] <Seveas> fire: no, that would be too annoying :)
[12:48] <Jemt> theadmin, well, obviously they do. The task/window switcher is displayed. But the key press is not released when I release the keys
[12:48] <john_rambo> I just installed privoxy. I tried modifying /etc/privoxy/config but cant understand what to do
[12:48] <theadmin> Jemt: Oh, huh, that's the weirdest thing ever.
[12:48] <Seveas> john_rambo: have you tried reading the documentation?
[12:48] <fire> so just installing once i am done and i can have that installed system forever  ?
[12:48] <theadmin> fire: Pretty much, until you break it :P
[12:48] <Jemt> theadmin: Yea :-/
[12:49] <Seveas> fire: well, you'll need to upgrade it to the new release every 6 months
[12:49] <fire> theadmin: cool :D
[12:49] <Seveas> fire: or every two years if you stick to LTS versions
[12:49] <fire> theadmin: if i break it there will be a way to fix it right ?
[12:49] <john_rambo> Seveas, Yes. ......... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Privoxy    But I cant find that line
[12:49] <theadmin> fire: Most of the time
[12:49] <DBoyz> Hi. How do I make libreoffice to auto update to it's latest stable version?
[12:49] <fire> that's cool
[12:49] <theadmin> !latest | DBoyz
[12:50] <cfhowlett> fire, not exactly.  you can keep the version you've already installed, you can directly upgrade to the very next version.  If you SKIP a version, you have to install again.  If you want to use ubuntu for the long term, I'd suggest you install the Long Term Support version 12.04.  Covered for 5 years!
[12:50] <john_rambo> Seveas, http://pastebin.com/LtEC76y2
[12:51] <DBoyz> then what should i replace "latest stable version" with?
[12:51] <theadmin> DBoyz: Just use whatever Ubuntu comes with, as long as you keep it up to date via the Update Manager
[12:51] <Jemt> BRB
[12:51] <theadmin> DBoyz: That works fine most of the time. If you *need* some of the 4.x features you can download it from libreoffice.org though.
[12:52] <fire> cfhowlett: than the version of packages that will be available on LTS release are same to the packages on the regular release ?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> DBoyz, if you want the latest, download directly from libre office and install
[12:52] <theadmin> fire: No, packages will be older, but it's usually more stable this way.
[12:52] <Seveas> john_rambo: line 776
[12:52] <fire> theadmin: ok
[12:52] <DBoyz> theadmin: okay. i thought the update manager's coverage doesn't include libreoffice
[12:52] <cfhowlett> fire, no. diffrent packages for different versions.
[12:52] <DBoyz> thanks
[12:52] <theadmin> DBoyz: It includes any apps that come with Ubuntu.
[12:52] <DBoyz> thanks
[12:53] <theadmin> DBoyz: (or those you install through the Software Centre)
[12:53] <Pici> !latest
[12:53] <Seveas> john_rambo: though if you use it just for you, the default is fine too. That change is only needed if you want other computers to use yours as proxy.
[12:55] <Kartagis> hi. how do I determine where my JDK is? this package is telling me to export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk. so I did that and I've verified the path exists but I'm getting an error "Set the JAVA_HOME environment variable to the pathname of the directory where your JDK is installed.
[12:55] <Kartagis> "
[12:56] <fatninja> ok so, I have a serious problem going on on 12.10. I try to record something with my microphone using audacity, it hears super ok but, there is a irritating noise (the mic isn't the problem because I tested it on a windows computer and worked like a charm)
[12:57] <theadmin> Kartagis: ls -l /etc/alternatives/java will tell you
[12:57] <john_rambo> Seveas, I will be using it just for me.........So I need to uncomment that line ? Which one ? http://pastebin.com/rR8JwG0v
[12:57] <Seveas> john_rambo: if it's just for you, you don't need to make any change
[12:58] <Seveas> john_rambo: just use 127.0.0.1 as proxy instead of 192.168.0.1
[12:59] <Kartagis> thanks theadmin
[12:59] <john_rambo> Seveas, Okay ...Iam trying that now in FF
[13:00] <Kartagis> theadmin: same message. should I point to the binary or the folder?
[13:00] <theadmin> Kartagis: Likely to the folder where the java binary is, I'm not too sure
[13:01] <Kartagis> theadmin: same error :S
[13:02] <OerHeks> edu
[13:02] <theadmin> Kartagis: Try the one above it (e.g. /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/ or such)
[13:02] <theadmin> Kartagis: Oh, I think it's /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre :/
[13:03] <theadmin> God this Java is crazy
[13:03] <OerHeks> one more and you have 30 clones eduedu edu_ edu__ edu___ edu____ edu____10 edu____11 edu____12 edu____13 edu____14 edu____15 edu____16 edu____17 edu____18 edu____19 edu____20 edu____21 edu____22 edu_____ edu_____1 edu_____2 edu_____3 edu_____4 edu_____5 edu_____6 edu_____7 edu_____8 edu_____9 edu______
[13:03] <jrib> uh
[13:03] <petan> o.o
[13:03] <Pici> OerHeks: we see, no need to accounce it
[13:03] <Kartagis> argh
[13:03] <john_rambo> Seveas,  I tried that with FF & pages are opeing but my ip is the same. Privoxy  doesnt provide anonymous browsing ? WHat does privoxy do then ?
[13:04] <Kartagis> theadmin: it sure is
[13:04] <ponke_> john_rambo: Privoxy is a non-caching web proxy with advanced filtering capabilities for enhancing privacy, modifying web page data and HTTP headers, controlling access, and removing ads and other obnoxious Internet junk. Privoxy has a flexible configuration and can be customized to suit individual needs and tastes. It has application for both stand-alone systems and multi-user networks.
[13:05] <Kartagis> Seveas: do you happen to have any ideas?
[13:05] <ponke_> begin there, and look up the words/tech. terms you need more info about
[13:05] <TakeItEZ> john_rambo: "tor" is what you're looking for, i guess
[13:06] <Kartagis> theadmin: I don't have a -amd64
[13:06] <Kartagis> I'm on 32bit
[13:06] <theadmin> Kartagis: Well that's on my machine, it'd be different on 32-bit I guess
[13:07] <Kartagis> theadmin: how about -common?
[13:07] <theadmin> Kartagis: I doubt that'd be it...
[13:09] <pa3lo> hi all
[13:10] <cfhowlett> pa3
[13:10] <cfhowlett> pa3lo, greetings
[13:10] <vnc786>  how do i remove libre office 3.6 completely and install 4.0 thru command line(i have downloaded LO .deb)
[13:12] <theadmin> vnc786: cd to where they are and "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[13:12] <cfhowlett> vnc786, sudo apt-get purge OLDlibreoffice   then sudo dpkg -i NEWlibreoffice
[13:17] <dryhay> hi. sometimes my ibus stops working. why? how to call it back? ubuntu forums related thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2116673
[13:20] <NightRavenXS> Hey guys, I need some assistance
[13:20] <NightRavenXS> Is there a keyboard layout indicator applet?
[13:20] <NightRavenXS> or it comes built in with GNOME 3?
[13:28] <howlafei> hello all
[13:31] <ak5_> how do I check my ubuntu version from CLI
[13:32] <bekks> ak5_: lsb_release -a
[13:34] <ak5_> tks
[13:41] <gagarin> hello i have a problem loging in, when i enter my password i get a black screen for like half a second and then it returns to the login screen again
[13:42] <gagarin> how can i fix it?
[13:43] <cycle-lin> dsad
[13:43] <cycle-lin> 怎么用啊
[13:43] <bekks> gagarin: Can you log in onto a console?
[13:43] <gagarin> bekks: yes
[13:43] <bekks> gagarin: Then check free disk space.
[13:44] <fishsponge> we're seeing port 49490 going from a server to a NAS device trying to umount a volume... why is port 49490 used for umount over NFS??
[13:44] <gagarin> bekks: how do i do that? also, i can login into the guest account wihout any problems. i've got this problem after the update
[13:45] <bekks> gagarin: After which update? And you can check free disk space using df -h
[13:45] <gagarin> bekks: i did an apt-get get upgrade , and after that ive got this problem
[13:45] <fishsponge> also, when I run "df" i see the server trying to connect to our NAS device over NFS using port 49490... any ideas??
[13:46] <bekks> fishsponge: You dont see connections using df. You can see mountpoints and disk usage using df.
[13:47] <gagarin> bekks: maybe it has something to do with Xauthority file?
[13:48] <bekks> gagarin: Check your free disk space.
[13:48] <fishsponge> bekks, well it definitely happens in umount...
[13:48] <gagarin> bekks: i did , i have free space
[13:48] <bekks> fishsponge: It doesnt. Pastebin all the output you can see, please.
[13:48] <bekks> gagarin: how much...? in % please.
[13:49] <gagarin> bekks: it says that 26% is used
[13:49] <fishsponge> bekks, unfortunately I cannot pastebin the output - I am seeing these ports in our firewall logs, which I cannot pastebin...
[13:49] <bekks> fishsponge: So you do not see them in df. Thats what you said before.
[13:49] <fishsponge> basically, everything is working normally, but umount is very slow and eventually then works, but it seems to connect to the NAS device on port 49490
[13:50] <bekks> fishsponge: And obviously, when having something mounted using NFS e.g., NFS will have to use some ports for accessing the share.
[13:50] <fishsponge> bekks, we have allowed NFS through our firewall and browsing around the NAS share works fine - it's just umount, for example which takes ages and our firewall logs dropped packets for port 49490
[13:51] <bekks> fishsponge: Then allow that port, and/or ask the vendor support of your NAS what its doing using that port.
[13:52] <paulcsiki> Hello
[13:52] <fishsponge> bekks, I cannot simply allow that port otherwise i'm going against the company's whitelist rules... I may therefore have to phone up Netgear!
[13:53] <Psi-Jack> A netgear NAS? Holy crap.
[13:53] <paulcsiki> I'm building up a bash script for backup and I'm getting "binary operator expected"
[13:53] <lantizia> How can I remove Unity (I'll then pick another DE)... I don't want to see yet another random forum post where someone lists a load of packages they 'think' gets it all - I'm hopefully for a more official way... like perhaps an entry on the ubuntu wiki?
[13:53] <bekks> fishsponge: Well, the whitelist rules should match reality, not some whishes of some managers behind their desks.
[13:53] <spacenavigator> can i have webcam whit ubuntu ?
[13:53] <Psi-Jack> spacenavigator: Of course not!
[13:53] <iamwhoiam> Psi-Jack: lol
[13:53] <paulcsiki> My script logic is: "if [ -f /etc/cron.d/zbackupStart_* ]; then"
[13:54] <paulcsiki> Am I doing something wrong?
[13:54] <Psi-Jack> paulcsiki: Yes
[13:54] <spacenavigator> I've skype but I can't use the webcam and I'ts very disegry :( !
[13:54] <Psi-Jack> paulcsiki: -f works on one file, not multiple.
[13:54] <Psi-Jack> Second, you're using [ instead of [[
[13:54] <paulcsiki> Psi-Jack: I understand, I need to identify if there exist any files that match that wildcard filename
[13:55] <paulcsiki> Psi-Jack: Can you give me a hint on how should I do that?
[13:55] <Psi-Jack> paulcsiki: glob isn't the answer, then. Perhaps find instead, and check the return code on that.
[13:56] <paulcsiki> Psi-Jack: Thank you, I will try it
[13:56] <Psi-Jack> paulcsiki: Actually, I got a better solution.
[13:56] <paulcsiki> Psi-Jack: really?
[13:57] <Psi-Jack> if stat --printf='' /path/to/your/files* 2>/dev/null; then echo found; else echo found; fi
[13:57] <Psi-Jack> Err, second is not found. :P
[13:57] <paulcsiki> Psi-Jack: Thanks I will try it right now
[13:58] <Psi-Jack> stat would be the least heavy solution I can think of, but even still, it's not great.
[13:59] <ChrisWere> I've just upgraded flash player from the ubuntu repos and now I can't watch any videos that arn't YouTube. Any help?
[13:59] <john_doe_jr> I would like to enter into a bash shell to become root to execute some commands…how do I do that in a shell script?
[13:59] <jpds> john_doe_jr: Set the commands to NOPASSWD in sudoers.
[14:00] <john_doe_jr> jpds: is there anyway to do that in a shell script though
[14:00] <jpds> john_doe_jr: No.
[14:00] <jpds> john_doe_jr: Because sudo is always going to ask for password.
[14:00] <jpds> john_doe_jr: Unless you tell it to NOPASSWD.
[14:01] <ChrisWere> Anyone know what lthe latest flash upgrade is so buggy? I can't play videos that arn't YouTube now.
[14:01] <frey> Hi. Is there a way for me to get all proprietary WiFi drivers that are available to Ubuntu? I need to have them available on a boot disk.
[14:01] <john_doe_jr> jpds: for example on a mac I can enter in "bash" to become root
[14:01] <jpds> john_doe_jr: Right, so do you want to run the script as root completely?
[14:01] <cfhowlett> frey, pretty sure the DVD iso has them
[14:01] <iamwhoiam> jpds: unless he returns his password to sudo through the script ? (baaaaad! i know, just asking....)
[14:01] <john_doe_jr> jpds: yes
[14:02] <frey> cfhowlett: Thanks. - Do you know what they are called?
[14:02] <jpds> john_doe_jr: Is it a cron job?
[14:02] <jpds> john_doe_jr: If not, then do: sudo -i and run it.
[14:02] <ChrisWere> Does anyone know why there are so many bugs in the latest upgrade?
[14:02] <rbn> hi, following problem: ubuntu 12.10 shuts down some minutes after booting on an thinkpad edge 320.. any idea?
[14:02] <paulcsiki> Psi-Jack: Thank you, it works well
[14:02] <john_doe_jr> cron job
[14:02] <Psi-Jack> paulcsiki: Yep.
[14:02] <paulcsiki> I wish you all a great day
[14:02] <rbn> windows works without problems
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:02] <jpds> ChrisWere: Software always has bugs.
[14:03] <Psi-Jack> paulcsiki: It'll work well until you have a LOT of files matching that pattern.
[14:03] <cfhowlett> frey, sorry I don't know.  Might I ask why you need ALL the drivers?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, so ... we meet again.  Greetings
[14:03] <ChrisWere> jpds: Yes but I can't play any flash video that's not YouTube and even that's a little touchy
[14:03] <paulcsiki> Psi-Jack: I don't plan on having more than two or three entries
[14:03] <ChrisWere> jpds: I never have these problems with Windows.
[14:03] <Psi-Jack> Okay, perfect then.
[14:03] <jpds> ChrisWere: I can play YouTube videos fine.
[14:03] <paulcsiki> :)
[14:03] <paulcsiki> Sweet, thanks
[14:03] <BluesKaj> hi cfhowlett , greetings to you as well :)
[14:03] <Psi-Jack> paulcsiki: Just keep that in mind, maybe comment on that. ;)
[14:04] <ChrisWere> jpds: Oh thanks, you so very helpful. All my problems are now solved.
[14:04] <Psi-Jack> Or not... heh
[14:05] <frey> cfhowlett: I'm making a USB bootable Ubuntu for an exam. I don't know what hardware the students will bring, but I need them to be able to hand in remotely.
[14:06] <userUbu0804> I cannot run Xubuntu from my bootable USB, it gets stuck on that menu. :-/
[14:06] <howlafei> why i remove wine but i can't clean it up,there always is a wine in dash home
[14:07] <tqrst> can anyone recommend something like baobab/filelight/ncdu that can sort by the number of files in each directory instead of the size? I have a hard drive that I know contains a *lot* of files, but I'm not sure where the bulk of the files live. Since they are very small, I can't just use the size to find them.
[14:07] <ChrisWere> So does no-one else have the big in the latest upgrade of Adobe Flash where they can't play any non-youtube videos?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> frey, for the record, broadcom wifi has improved by leaps and bounds.  My bcm4313 still doesn't work from the default installation, but 3 commands and 2 minutes in terminal fires it up ... don't even need a reboot.
[14:10] <theadmin> I found a directory called /selinux on my filesystem. Did Ubuntu suddenly start using that?
[14:10] <frey> cfhowlett: I like the additional drivers tool, but I just need to make sure that it works without internet access.
[14:11] <cfhowlett> frey, nice.  Short of downloading each and every possible permutation from Ubuntu Software Center, I don't know what else you can do.  Of course, even then ...
[14:12] <frey> cfhowlett: I'm just sure that if I have 150 students, that I will get many different types of problems. One solution is to have spare USB WiFi dongles for the ones that I don't have a solution for.
[14:13] <ivotkl> Hello everyone.
[14:13] <frey> cfhowlett: It would be great to keep a copy of the repo that Ubuntu additional drivers uses on the USB stick.
[14:13] <theadmin> !aptoncd | frey
[14:14] <cfhowlett> frey, standardized (cheap) usb dongles might be the best solution.  pretty sure you can get a great deal for mass quantities at amazon ...
[14:14] <frey> cfhowlett: I'm using Ubuntu builder at the moment.
[14:16] <melvin> Hi. With 12.10 Wifi Hotspot to iphone don't work anymore. Connections is made but no data came through. Why is is that after every update the essentials arn't working anymore
[14:18] <oldude67> easiest way to get rid of old kernels?
[14:18] <cirro> hi, I'm trying to set up GRUB so that it won't timeout on a failed boot. According to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Last_Boot_Failed_or_Boot_into_Recovery_Mode I should change a line in /grub.d/00_header, however the contents of that file and the documentation don't match. As opposed to a set timeout=foo I get a set timeout=${bar}. Any ideas?
[14:19] <compdoc> oldude67, you might try:  sudo apt-get autoremove
[14:19] <jhutchins_wk> cirro: Which release are you on?
[14:19] <oldude67> compdoc, tried still have 6 of them
[14:19] <bekks> oldude67: apt-get purge name.of.the.package.of.the.old.kernel
[14:20] <oldude67> bekks,  thanks ill write them down when i reboot. so i dont foobar them.
[14:20] <compdoc> oldude67, dpkg --list 'linux-image*'
[14:20] <compdoc> then, sudo apt-get remove linux-image-blah
[14:21] <compdoc> then I would update grub
[14:21] <oldude67> k
[14:21] <bekks> oldude67: You dont have to reboot.
[14:22] <cirro> jhutchins_wk: I installed a fresh copy of 12.04. I didn't touch anything else.
[14:22] <bekks> oldude67: Just take a look at: dpkg -l | grep linux-headers and dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[14:22] <bekks> oldude67: And your current, latest kernel can be gathered by uname -a
[14:22] <compdoc> be sure you dont remove the current kernel
[14:23] <bekks> apt-get will warn you twice when doing so.
[14:23] <cirro> jhutchins_wk: output of grub-install -v: grub-install (GRUB) 1.99-21ubuntu3.9
[14:26] <teng_> when i choose an app to open some unspecified file, there're multiple icons for a same app, how can i make them one?
[14:28] <cirro> jhutchins_wk: it's probably just that I don't understand the syntax
[14:28] <troulouliou_dev> hi how to use gnome-tweak-tool ; i do not understand current theme vs gtk+theme vs shell-theme
[14:28] <cirro> jhutchins_wk: but I'm scared to muck around too much
[14:31] <john_rambo> I ahve installed tor b& configured FF but I get this message "Tor is not an HTTP Proxy"
[14:32] <Okitain> john_rambo: could you elaborate how you did configuration?
[14:32] <troulouliou_dev> john_rambo,  it is a socks proxy
[14:32] <Okitain> For example, you could configure Tor as SOCKS5.
[14:32] <oldude67> bekks, compdoc , ty, got rid of them.
[14:32] <john_rambo> Okitain, Will that change my ip?
[14:33] <laf163> I'm use ubuntu12.04 desktop amd64, I installed xinetd+tightvncserver,i can connect from mobile phone by vnc client, and can display gdm, while i input username and password, the connect closed by computer, please help me.
[14:33] <zetheroo> how can I check if cron is running?
[14:33] <Okitain> john_rambo: you don't really have an IP with Tor.
[14:34] <Okitain> if you mean your configuration in proxy settings, then it will only need to change your port.
[14:34] <john_rambo> Okitain, Then what does tor do ?
[14:35] <Okitain> it connects you to a random exit node through a complex route.
[14:35] <Okitain> So your connection has that IP address... and then some other one.
[14:37] <john_rambo> Okitain, So I enter 127.0.0.1 & port 9050 in SOCKS Host in FF ? & there are 2 options 1 is socks v4 & % which one do I select ?
[14:37] <john_rambo> 5
[14:38] <Okitain> Socks5.
[14:38] <john_rambo> Okay
[14:39] <ihre> I'm having trouble removing plexmediaserver, on Ubuntu 12.10 Server. dpkg: error processing plexmediaserver (--remove); http://dpaste.com/1022767/
[14:40] <ihre> How can I remove it manually ?
[14:42] <Okitain> try to kill it first with rc.d
[14:45] <ihre> Okitain: update-rc.d: warning: plexmediaserver start runlevel arguments (none) do not match LSB Default-Start values (2 3 4 5), I have removed the entry with update-rc.d -f plexmediaserver remove
[14:45] <ak5_> hi guys, why can't people write to my smb server which is a folder with 777 unix write permissions and has guest ok = yes in the smb.conf
[14:50] <genii-around> ak5_: You probably want map bad username = guest
[14:50] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys, How to increase Boot parathion size, We have current machine 28M I need more space please guide me
[14:50] <danieldangol> do we have devnagari typing tutor for ubuntu
[14:50] <danieldangol> ??
[14:50] <Capprentice> You can install IOK from USC.
[14:52] <danieldangol> id googled it cant found
[14:52] <bekks> dhanasekaran: use a live cd like gparted.
[14:52] <Capprentice> Search on Ubuntu Software CENTER.
[14:53] <danieldangol> cant find in software center
[14:54] <Capprentice> danieldangol,  what typing tutor u use ?
[14:54] <danieldangol> i use kalvaro
[14:55] <Capprentice> GOOGLE for TIPP. Im rite now not on Ubuntu. Indik Keyboard or TIPP may have such features.
[14:55] <dhanasekaran> bekks: Nothing will hadpen data right
[14:55] <danieldangol> ok
[14:56] <bekks> dhanasekaran: Not right. Backup your entire disk before resizing partitions. You may need your backup if doing things wrong.
[14:56] <holstein> danieldangol: Devanagari ? i think you are spelling it incorretly.. there are also plenty of typing tutors online that will run in *any* browser on any os
[14:57] <danieldangol> hindi
[14:57] <danieldangol> it is devnagari
[14:57] <danieldangol> sorry my bad
[14:58] <holstein> danieldangol: you can ask them to create a version for linux/ubuntu... or try a native application, or one in the browser
[14:58] <thiran29303a> can someone tell how to bring up ldap configuration pop up
[14:58] <danieldangol> you mean tipp
[14:58] <thiran29303a> i used to do sudo apt-get install ldap-auth-client nscd
[14:58] <thiran29303a> the pop up doesn't show anymore
[15:00] <lucky1z> hello I dnloaded the new ubuntu 12.10 and i'm having an issue with installing Skype. Is anyone know anything?
[15:00] <holstein> lucky1z: i install from http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[15:00] <bekks> !skype | lucky1z
[15:02] <lucky1z> ok will give it a shot... brb
[15:05] <MorpheusxNL> good afternoon
[15:05] <MorpheusxNL> quit
[15:05] <Capprentice> ??
[15:05] <MorpheusxNL> \quit
[15:06] <helmut_> hi
[15:07] <daedeloth> when I have the latest fglrx-amdccle-updates package installed, what version of the driver am I supposed to have then?
[15:07] <locoche> bonjour, j'ai la version mint 12 gnome est ce que je peut mettre la version 3.6 de gnome
[15:07] <somsip> !fr | locoche
[15:09] <locoche> Hello, I have version mint 12 with gnome - I can put the gnome version 3.6
[15:10] <felice> sera
[15:11] <briney> can someone remind me which version has the unity interface? _ i have a functioning 10.04 which i dont want to screw up...
[15:12] <matzipan> jono: you around/
[15:12] <lapdis> Is there a way to estimate when tomcat 7.0.37 will be available through apt-get?
[15:12] <jrib> briney: support for 10.04 on the desktop ends this april
[15:12] <briney> can it be updated wihtout going to the unity interface?
[15:13] <bekks> briney: You can use KDE, XFCE, LXDE, or whatever DE you want.
[15:13] <jrib> briney: you can choose whatever interface you want
[15:13] <jrib> !notunity | briney
[15:13] <jrib> ubottu: don't let me down...
[15:14] <briney> i take it it is possible then to simply use the old gnome?
[15:14] <alex88> which path should be used for sockets like php-fpm?
[15:14] <locoche> thank you
[15:15] <bekks> !gnome | briney
[15:15] <bekks> briney: Its dead, basically. You have to use Gnome3.
[15:16] <jrib> briney: if you want something gnome2-like, I'd suggest xfce
[15:16] <briney> cool thanks a bunch
[15:16] <danieldangol> The installation of a package which violates the quality standards isn't allowed. This could cause serious problems on your computer. Please contact the person or organisation who provided this package file and include the details beneath.
[15:20] <danieldangol> cant install
[15:24] <lucky1z> Ok I downloaded the Skype for Ubuntu  and seem to be having an install issue Packet Dependencies can not be resolved -  This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[15:24] <lucky1z> Im new to installing on Ubuntu sorry guys lol
[15:25] <jono> matzipan, hey
[15:26] <jrib> lucky1z: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[15:27] <jrib> lucky1z: hello?
[15:28] <lucky1z> hello, idk how to dpkg print foreign architectures
[15:28] <jrib> lucky1z: open a terminal, type the command, press enter, report back your output
[15:29] <bekor> hey anyone using Zorin or know have a channel?
[15:30] <jrib> lucky1z: do you understand?
[15:31] <lucky1z> No i do not
[15:32] <jrib> lucky1z: which part do you not understand?
[15:32] <MalMen> how can i switch my resolve ip to a dns i want ?
[15:32] <jrib> !resolvconf | MalMen
[15:32] <lucky1z> where is a terminal ?
[15:32] <jrib> lucky1z: in dash, you can type "terminal"
[15:32] <lucky1z> ok 1 sec
[15:33] <jrib> lucky1z: I'll be back in 5 minutes
[15:33] <lucky1z> ok yes open
[15:33] <lucky1z> kk
[15:38] <Duke_Puke> fy Gabril92
[15:41] <mephisto> hello friends!
[15:42] <mephisto>   I have anew laptop and before attempting to create partitions (it has no OS installed by default) I've noticed 4 partitions already there: first one sda1 has boot,lba flags, /dev/sda2 lba flag, a huge unallocated space (expected) and then an ntfs parition /dev/sda4 LENOVO_PART with a "diag" flag, can I just wipe them and start from scratch? (the fat32 doesn't contain any EFI related info)
[15:43] <jrib> lucky1z: so what was your output?
[15:45] <lucky1z> i have the terminal open i typed in   dpkg --print-foreign-architectures with no results
[15:45] <jrib> lucky1z: uname -m
[15:45] <lucky1z> said command not found
[15:45] <jrib> lucky1z: try again
[15:45] <lucky1z> kk 1 sec
[15:46] <lucky1z> nothing
[15:46] <jrib> lucky1z: what did you type?
[15:47] <lucky1z> dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[15:47] <jrib> lucky1z: type "uname -m"
[15:47] <lucky1z> oh ok
[15:48] <lucky1z> result =  x86_64
[15:48] <jrib> lucky1z: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[15:49] <lucky1z> kk 1 min
[15:54] <lucky1z> = [sudo] password for unforgiven:
[15:54] <jrib> lucky1z: enter your password
[15:55] <Okitain> oh boy, imagine he will.
[15:55] <Okitain> here.
[15:55] <lucky1z> brought up = unforgiven@ubuntu:~$
[15:56] <jrib> lucky1z: now what does "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" return?
[15:57] <lucky1z> dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[15:57] <lucky1z> oops lol
[15:58] <lucky1z> = i386
[15:58] <inashdeen> hi there, I am building some bash script and i want to use zenity for its gui. apparently, I have some problem with --form.  how do i use them?
[15:58] <jrib> lucky1z: good.  Now what's the name of the skype deb you have?
[15:58] <lucky1z> 1 sec
[15:59] <lucky1z> skype-ubuntu-precise_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb
[16:00] <jrib> lucky1z: ok, you may try to install that if you wish.  Alternatively, you can use canonical's partner repository (this way your software will automatically be kept up to date).  You can "/msg ubottu skype" for information about skype from the partner repository
[16:00] <jrib> lucky1z: I have to leave now
[16:01] <lucky1z> ok thank you
[16:02] <Okitain> Waaait, so you put him through all those loops to install the skype package that _had_ a x64 release?
[16:06] <wontdrinkitself> much better..
[16:07] <wontdrinkitself> (figured out how to change from the 'quakenet server').
[16:07] <wontdrinkitself> So, it appears 'league of legends' and related estoerica don't rule the World! :)
[16:07] <wontdrinkitself> heheheh
[16:07] <wontdrinkitself> funny shit
[16:07] <wontdrinkitself> *Burp*.
[16:09] <Okitain> wontdrinkitself: are you sure that you're on a channel that fits you?
[16:09] <wontdrinkitself> Definitely not Okitain, at this current juncture! :)
[16:10] <wontdrinkitself> Again, it's just nice to have a conversation.
[16:10] <bazhang> !ot | wontdrinkitself
[16:10] <wontdrinkitself> But, yes - this room isn't for me..
[16:10] <wontdrinkitself> :)
[16:10] <wontdrinkitself> right now!
[16:10] <Okitain> Thanks bazhang
[16:11] <wontdrinkitself> I'm still trying to figure out this 'pong' machine here..
[16:11] <wontdrinkitself> tape drive on the vic-20..
[16:11] <bazhang> wontdrinkitself, please stop
[16:11] <Xrman> I have problem with matlabs 2012b, as it doesn't installs
[16:11] <wontdrinkitself> I *hear* the vic-20 epyx 'fast load' cartridge, picks up 'the gurls' ? :P
[16:12] <wontdrinkitself> Ciao :)
[16:12] <wontdrinkitself> bye
[16:12] <Xrman> Error: Cannot locate Java Runtime Environment (JRE).
[16:12] <Xrman> the error I'm getting with matlab
[16:12] <Okitain> Xrman: are you sure that you installed one?
[16:13] <Xrman> well
[16:13] <Cannabis> hey anyone awake?
[16:13] <Xrman> JRE is installed, but it shows that dir is wrong for matlab disk inside
[16:13] <Okitain> there's a package for that in Partner, or a free clone named icetea.
[16:13] <Okitain> !ask|Cannabis
[16:14] <Cannabis> well if u would be patient i was typing it
[16:14] <Cannabis> -.-
[16:15] <Xrman> sys / java / jre
[16:15] <Cannabis> does anyone know how to solve this issue ive had no luck with google i restarted apache2 and it said it couldnt find /var/www/cgi-bin/cgi-wrapper/cgi_wrapper/cgi_wrapper file
[16:15] <Cannabis> so i used touch and that path and file to create it
[16:15] <Cannabis> now when i run any php script i get Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/forum/includes/class_core.php on line 317
[16:16] <Cannabis> what gives
[16:16] <Okitain> Could you check if anything has install files on that dir?
[16:16] <Xrman> sys / java / jre / glnx86
[16:16] <Xrman> does not exit
[16:17] <horatio_cromwell> is there a way of running .profile again ?
[16:17] <abyss42> what status code does  returning false on create_detail function when you subclass authorization return?
[16:17] <horatio_cromwell> or do you have to log off ?
[16:17] <Okitain> Xrman: could you create a few symlinks?
[16:17] <Okitain> (and then a bugreport.)
[16:17] <Cannabis> anyone have a solution to my issue?
[16:18] <Cannabis> ive been pounding at this for 5 hours
[16:18] <Xrman> I can't write in error, must ubuntu paste
[16:19] <Xrman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614003/ so my problem
[16:19] <Okitain> Cannabis: I'm sorry for trolling, but, uh, reinstall and look in configs?
[16:19] <Cannabis> i already reinstalled php and apache2
[16:19]  * genii-around twitches
[16:19] <Xrman> Okitain what symlinks?
[16:19] <Cannabis> im not a complete nub bro hence why i finally got on here cuz im out of ideas
[16:20] <Okitain> Cannabis: go ahead and drop the leetspeek then :)
[16:20] <Cannabis> huh
[16:20] <Cannabis> thats just how i talk
[16:20] <machicola> newbie
[16:21] <Cannabis> l33t is leetspeak
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> Cannabis, sudo apt-get instsll php5-mysql
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> er
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> sudo apt-get install php5-mysql
[16:21] <Touhou11> Cannabis: sud0 4pt-g3t 1nst4ll php5-mysq1
[16:21] <Okitain> Xrman: well, go in that directory and create a link to (whatever the JRE resides at)
[16:22] <Extreme> !coc
[16:22] <Okitain> using ln -s .
[16:22]  * machicola in awe of Touhou11 l33tness
[16:22] <Cannabis> lordoftime
[16:22] <Cannabis> this is what it gives me when i run that http://pastebin.com/fSs8g7kv
[16:23] <Cannabis> Setting up libapache2-mod-fcgid (1:2.3.6-1.1) ... ERROR: Module fcgid does not exist!
[16:23] <Cannabis> o.o
[16:23] <LordOfTime> Cannabis, sudo apt-get install php5-mysql
[16:23] <LordOfTime> (I missed other lines, blame lag)
[16:24] <Cannabis> i did that
[16:24] <Cannabis> http://pastebin.com/fSs8g7kv
[16:24] <Cannabis> has the output
[16:24] <LordOfTime> Cannabis, did you restart php and apache too?
[16:24] <Cannabis> it failed to install
[16:24]  * LordOfTime looks
[16:24] <LordOfTime> Cannabis, looks like an Apache issue
[16:24] <Cannabis> ya and i uninstalled apache2 already
[16:24] <LordOfTime> that i can't help fix
[16:24] <LordOfTime> the problem is Apache :P
[16:24] <Cannabis> and reinstalled
[16:24] <Okitain> Xrman: did that do?
[16:25] <Sietsem_> Hey, I have a problem with dependencies. I tried installing mono from a repository (badgerports.org). But after installing, I get all kinds of errors. And since mono is available in the official repo's. I want to remove the one I have installed right now. Can someone help me please? :) It is on a remote server
[16:26] <Sietsem_> I already tried most of: http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies . But it doesn't really work out
[16:26] <Sietsem_> If you need any output, I will be able to give it
[16:27] <Taneb> Now that Google Reader is closing down, can anyone recommend a RSS reader?
[16:27] <Okitain> err, why don't you just delete the repo and the packages one by one?
[16:27] <Taneb> Preferably with good Ubuntu integration
[16:27] <Sietsem_> I deleted the repo
[16:27] <Okitain> Taneb: how bout the already-built-in Thunderbird?
[16:27] <Sietsem_> But deleting the packages doesn't work out
[16:27] <Taneb> Heh, I've never actually really looked at Thunderbird
[16:28] <faebser> does anybody have some experience with compiling the alsa-drivers from source?
[16:28] <Okitain> Sietsem_: go ahead and explain or provide output.
[16:28] <Sietsem_> Okitain: moment
[16:30] <Sietsem_> Okitain:http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614045/
[16:31] <Cannabis> lordoftime thanks
[16:31] <Cannabis> ur hint helped me fix it
[16:31] <Cannabis> :D
[16:32] <Okitain> Sietsem_: your apt db is mangled.
[16:33] <Okitain> Sorry, can't remember how to fix it.
[16:33] <Okitain> yet.
[16:33] <onward> Wasn't there a dummy package that builds and teaches how to make a package?
[16:33] <Sietsem_> :( No problem
[16:33] <IonutVan> hi
[16:34] <jrib> !packaging | onward
[16:34] <Xrman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614003/
[16:34] <jrib> onward: there is.  I don't remember the name, but it should be in the debian packaging guide iirc
[16:34] <Xrman> matlab 2012b, java 7 6 instlaled
[16:34] <IonutVan> I have access to a ubuntu machine, how I now if it is "ubuntu 10.04.4 desktop lts" or "ubuntu 10.04.4 lts server"?
[16:34] <Okitain> Sietsem_: try dpkg -P -force-all mono-relevant-package.
[16:35] <IonutVan> lsb_release says:  Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[16:35] <LordOfTime> IonutVan, there's not really a difference, if its "server" it shouldn't have a GUI unless manually installed
[16:37] <Sietsem_> Okitain: It was --force-all, not -force-all. But thanks :D It looks like it works :) I probably won't need any help from here.
[16:37] <IonutVan> LordOfTime, and then, why the support is different? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[16:37] <Okitain> Sietsem_: I had a similar problem in my days on Ubuntu.
[16:37] <LordOfTime> IonutVan, i'm not the person to really answer that one.
[16:38] <LordOfTime> IonutVan, but they use the same repositories so...
[16:38] <IonutVan> I just want ot know if my system will be supported until April or until 2015
[16:38] <IonutVan> :)
[16:38] <Mark_M> Funny because I'm at Southfork listening to NA right now!
[16:38] <LordOfTime> IonutVan, use the "latest date' on that "supported" thing.
[16:39] <LordOfTime> IonutVan, heck, Hardy's still "supported" even now, but in a few weeks that'll change
[16:39] <jrib> IonutVan: it depends on the individual packages.
[16:39] <LordOfTime> listen to jrib on this one.
[16:39] <Okitain> IonutVan: install the server packages and enlarge your support.
[16:39] <jrib> IonutVan: you can run "ubuntu-support-status" in 10.04 I think, try that
[16:39] <Okitain> by, like, 2 years!
[16:40] <Okitain> Guaranteed!
[16:41] <IonutVan> -bash: ubuntu-support-status: command not found
[16:41] <jrib> IonutVan: do you have update-manager-core installed?
[16:42] <IonutVan> no idea, is a vps on a openvz :)
[16:42] <jrib> IonutVan: well you need update-manager-core to have that command
[16:43] <IonutVan> ok, I will try to install it and then I will see, but I suspect that they will not provide support for desktop packages after April
[16:43] <jrib> IonutVan: yes, that's correct.
[16:43] <Okitain> I was joking, IonutVan.
[16:44] <IonutVan> ok, then, should be ok, there are no ubuntu-desktop installed :)
[16:44] <vbgunz> anyone know of an easy solution to dedicating an SSD to caching?
[16:45] <sanjeb> Heys, I have a bash script that I want to work automatically when ever a USB is inserted in my Ubuntu 12.04, what are the steps I should do? Im new to Linux
[16:47] <jrib> sanjeb: google "writing udev rules"  Should  provide you with a document that can help you
[16:47] <sanjeb> thanx jrib, will give it a try
[16:49] <berk> Can someone point me to a reference for changing the colours of the current theme? (New to linux here :))
[16:49] <Jordan_U> vbgunz: There is bcache http://atlas.evilpiepirate.org/git/linux-bcache.git/tree/Documentation/bcache.txt?h=bcache-dev but I wouldn't consider it easy to configure yet.
[16:50] <vbgunz> Jordan_U: I looked into bcache and agree with you
[16:50] <eN_Joy> openssl is in my list to upgrade but i am little concerned: i am working via ssh, i remember many years ago, when i was upgrading ssl, my ssh connection was cut, should i worry this time?
[16:50] <vbgunz> I would have thought this would be a piece of cake for some reason
[16:50] <Jordan_U> vbgunz: In the future, btrfs is intended to have hot data tracking in addition to its RAID functionality that should make this very easy to implement. But it's not there yet.
[16:51] <vbgunz> I tried playing around with btrfs once and ran into a corruption in which once my data was saved, I never considered it again
[16:52] <vbgunz> but the performance of an ssd cache is exciting. I have an SSD and use to have / and some stuff on it and the performance is incredible. I'd love to use my SSD as a cache disk really
[16:52] <ShinyObjects> Hey guys - I'm having some issues with Nautilus. It pegs my CPU at about 95% when I try to open any location - ~/Music, ~, ~/Documents, etc, sometimes drops to 10% for a second, and eventually closes itself
[16:52] <ShinyObjects> Totally unresponsive.
[16:52] <ShinyObjects> Ubuntu 12.10, updates applied
[16:52] <exposition> that's really strange.
[16:52] <ShinyObjects> No fancy devices mounted
[16:52] <exposition> perhaps you should try another manager
[16:53] <ShinyObjects> Do you have a recommendation exposition?
[16:53] <vbgunz> Jordan_U: I am also looking at https://github.com/stec-inc/EnhanceIO EnhanceIO
[16:53] <exposition> to see if it happens again
[16:53] <exposition> regardless of file manager
[16:53] <acovrig> how may gpus can ubuntu support?
[16:53] <exposition> that's all i got...sorry.
[16:53] <ShinyObjects> Oooooh, I forgot to mention its memory usage climbs like a BEAST. It's up to 36% of my 8 GB of ram
[16:54] <exposition> have you tried an askubuntu query?
[16:54] <exposition> people tend to be rather fast.
[16:54] <goodtime> lol
[16:54] <ShinyObjects> I haven't.
[16:55] <goodtime> hmmmm instantly banned from #linux for nothing at all hmmm
[16:55] <Okitain> acovrig: you have SLI?
[16:55] <fcuk112> what's the best rss reader for ubuntu besides lightread?
[16:55] <goodtime> pdf reader Okitain?
[16:56] <acovrig> Okitain, yes
[16:56] <exposition> shinyobjects: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1069843
[16:56] <Ponch0> uh
[16:57] <exposition> shinyobjects:
[16:57] <exposition> http://askubuntu.com/questions/66913/nautilus-uses-all-my-cpu-memory
[16:58] <vbgunz> Jordan_U: EnhanceIO won't be simple either
[16:58] <vbgunz> damn
[16:58] <ShinyObjects> Thanks exposition - trying the first one
[17:03] <brennan> is there a way to get audacious from the terminal?
[17:10] <andygraybeal> is it possible to use goggle app's sso to login to ubuntu?
[17:13] <Jimster480-L> not that i know of
[17:16] <MartynKeigher> hey. when i am xrdp'd into my ubuntu box, when i click restart..i doesn't fully restart!?? it just logs me off. is this a known issue and if so, how can i initiate a COMPLETE power cycle reboot from within my xrdp session?
[17:16] <MartynKeigher> i assume a term command of some sorts>
[17:16] <MartynKeigher> ?
[17:18] <tgm4883> MartynKeigher, well 'sudo shutdown -r now' would restart the machine
[17:18] <ShinyObjects> MartynKeigher: sudo reboot now
[17:18] <Nico__> Hi everyone
[17:18] <ShinyObjects> Yo Nico__
[17:18] <MartynKeigher> ok will try that.
[17:19] <Nico__> First time here, but something tell me that I will be around here constantly, haha
[17:20] <MartynKeigher> its says it going to reboot NOW…but its not doing anything!
[17:20] <Nico__> I have one question related to mount automatically a ISCSI unit in FAT in Ubuntu 12.04
[17:20] <Okitain> Nico__: Let's hope that you'll be giving help then.
[17:20] <DrZaius> raring beta1 was supposed to be today, wasnt it? is it out?
[17:21] <DrZaius> not sure where to check it out
[17:21] <Nico__> yes, if I can help someone I will
[17:21] <wachpwnski> hey I can't get my install to detect my hdmi audio device, but alsa detects the device
[17:21] <wachpwnski> what would it be pulseaudio
[17:21] <tgm4883> Nico__, what is the question?
[17:21] <ShinyObjects> MartynKeigher: check top or system monitor - see if any processes look suspicious
[17:22] <Nico__> First of all, excuse my english, I'm from Argentina.
[17:23] <Okitain> So, you need automount of a FAT device?
[17:23] <MartynKeigher> nope :(
[17:23] <tgm4883> MartynKeigher, SSH in and run it?
[17:23] <ShinyObjects> Congrats on the new pope, Nico__
[17:24] <MartynKeigher> how can i find out how many procs/cores I'm using on this ubuntu box? it was setup as a vm for me on Hyperv and i don't have access to the hyper mgmt console
[17:24] <MartynKeigher> will try the ssh now
[17:24] <MartynKeigher> good shout!
[17:24] <tgm4883> MartynKeigher, lscpu
[17:24] <MartynKeigher> thanks tom! lscpu perfect!
[17:24] <MartynKeigher> nice cmd
[17:25] <Nico__> I succesfully created a ISCSI connection in Ubuntu, logged in Automatically on startup, but I have to mount  it manually everytime. I can't seem to find a way to make it automatically. The unit it's in NTFS
[17:25] <Okitain> Nico__: edit fstab.
[17:25] <tgm4883> !fstab | Nico__
[17:25] <Nico__> Thanks Shinyobjects, I expect that He make a good work
[17:26] <MartynKeigher> ooohhh…. no pings! think the sudo reboot now did it…although it took a minute to initiate
[17:26] <ShinyObjects> Yeah - sometimes a process will hang while it's trying to reboot
[17:26] <ShinyObjects> the kernel will give it a generous amount of time to finish whatever it's doing
[17:26] <ShinyObjects> then after a while says "fine, I give up" and kills it
[17:27] <ShinyObjects> Often that kind of thing is filesystem related
[17:27] <Jimster480-L> yea
[17:27] <tgm4883> any services should be killed by upstart after 5 seconds of requested shutdown typically
[17:27] <Jimster480-L> its usually
[17:27] <ShinyObjects> might be an out of date kernel module or the like
[17:27] <gnuLix> Hello, guys. I use the command "ssh -t -t user@hostname" but it echo every my command and I do not receive the rulst of the command. For example I would like to see the path after I run the command "pwd" and not the text "pwd". Can someone explain me what I am doing wrong?
[17:27] <Nico__> Thanks, Okitain, tgm4883 and ubottu, I will try that
[17:28] <Jimster480-L> usually when you tell it to shut down it will give a timeout. If you tell it NOW then it should kill all processes and reboot.
[17:28] <ShinyObjects> Yep
[17:28] <ShinyObjects> Problem is with virtualization the problem could be in a kernel module.
[17:28] <tgm4883> Jimster480-L, I think it still requests shutdown (eg. starts the shutdown procedure)
[17:29] <ShinyObjects> They're often not as well tested as real drivers.
[17:29] <ShinyObjects> So sometimes one of those will hang up and Upstart can't do a lot about that
[17:29] <tgm4883> ShinyObjects, shouldn't they be better tested than real drivers?
[17:29] <ShinyObjects> They run in kernel space, Upstart jus tmanages userland
[17:29] <ShinyObjects> you'd think so, tgm4883
[17:29] <ShinyObjects> And on paper they should be.
[17:30] <tgm4883> ShinyObjects, there are far more virtual machines than X motherboard
[17:30] <ShinyObjects> But they often aren't. The VM-side of the kernel modules is pretty consistent but it's when something goes fishy on the guest side that the VM side ends up hanging usually
[17:30] <ShinyObjects> Right, but tgm4883 now we're dealing with twice as many levels that everything has to work on
[17:31] <ShinyObjects> additionally there's the middle layer - the translation between the two that your VM host application has to do
[17:31] <Jimster480-L> yes it does request a shutdown, but the shutdown will kill -9 all processes after about 30 seconds if they dont respond to the term signal.
[17:31] <ShinyObjects> A friend and I put out a paper a little while ago about using vulnerable kernel modules in VMWare ESX to get kernel privs on the host machine
[17:31] <tgm4883> ShinyObjects, link?
[17:32] <ShinyObjects> Jimster480-L: right, but a kernel module's unload/shutdown doesn't happen in userland
[17:32] <ShinyObjects> let me dig it up
[17:32] <ShinyObjects> (tgm4883)
[17:32] <stameni> hello, how to check kernel version from command line ?
[17:33] <tgm4883> stameni, uname
[17:33] <Jimster480-L> uname -a
[17:33] <tyyhzh> hello
[17:33] <stameni> tgm4883, Jimster480-L, tnx
[17:33] <tyyhzh> hello
[17:33] <tyyhzh> who?
[17:33] <tgm4883> !ask | tyyhzh
[17:34] <tyyhzh> i
[17:34] <ShinyObjects> tgm4883: I don't have it on my work machine and my name isn't on the paper so I can't find it after a quick googling
[17:34] <tyyhzh> 可以用中文吗？
[17:34] <Jimster480-L> A kernel module gets a timeout too before its killed by the kernel itself. All modules are given the TERM signal and modules are requested to unload. There is a setting when you compile the kernel I'm pretty sure you can actually set the timeout on Module Load/Unload.
[17:35] <tgm4883> ShinyObjects, ok
[17:35] <ShinyObjects> But basically it worked this way - YES, the "hardware target" for a VM kernel module is easier...
[17:35] <tgm4883> ShinyObjects, I just ask, as we run an ESX environment at work
[17:35] <ShinyObjects> but also less tested
[17:35] <ShinyObjects> So what we did
[17:35] <tyyhzh> 有中国人吗？
[17:35] <ShinyObjects> was found an unchecked bound in an openGL texture write call
[17:35] <tgm4883> !cn | tyteen4a03
[17:36] <ShinyObjects> So then we had write access to kernel memory
[17:36] <ShinyObjects> We picked the 3D drivers because they're newest and least tested but there are likely exploits in other modules
[17:36] <tyyhzh> 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入
[17:36] <tgm4883> ShinyObjects, this is all on the host?
[17:36] <Jimster480-L> i build my own kernels for my systems though lol
[17:36] <tyyhzh> 为什么没有人用中文阿？
[17:37] <Jimster480-L> if I get some time I have to followup on my code submission to the kernel aswell.
[17:37] <ShinyObjects> tgm4883: The kernel module translates the addresses to host addresses before proxying the request off to the actual hardware
[17:37] <ShinyObjects> tgm4883: So you have to guess on a few things but there are a few standard locations you can count on
[17:37] <ShinyObjects> tgm4883: Write some stuff to those, get back the info you need, write to your real target
[17:37] <tgm4883> ShinyObjects, interesting
[17:38] <tyyhzh> 哎！ 我郁闷～～
[17:38] <levo> i got this problem since last night: when i want to start a program (doesn't matter what like gedit, totem, empathy.. . ) the cpu goes to 100% for some seconds and then gets back to normal. what's with it? (when i am about to navigate a song in totem via keyboard cpu stays 100%until i stop doing navigating)
[17:38] <ShinyObjects> Yeah. Because both Virtualbox and VMWare's kernel modules on the host side have full kernel privs...
[17:38] <ShinyObjects> any action they do is trusted
[17:38] <c|oneman> Dropbox CLI is using 690m virtual memory... is this normal?
[17:38] <tyyhzh> 都是英文高手
[17:38] <ShinyObjects> So if you trick the guest KM into sending a tricky request to the host KM, the host KM is trusted by the host kernel....
[17:39] <ShinyObjects> You can break out and start running code in the host kernel
[17:39] <FatDarrel> c|oneman: omg
[17:39] <ShinyObjects> (the irony being you still haven't broken out of the guest kernel....)
[17:39] <tyyhzh> bey
[17:39] <Jordan_U> !cn | tyyhzh
[17:39] <tgm4883> ShinyObjects, that seems like a pretty bad exploit
[17:39] <nunne> anyone have have solved pulseaudio streaming via airplay (to xbmc target for example).. haven't found any sollution online around this
[17:40] <ShinyObjects> tgm4883: Well this one was just done on a (now patched) vuln in a guest KM for openGL. It took a lot of time and work, so it's unlikely you'd get hit by something similar unless you were directly targeted.
[17:41] <ShinyObjects> tgm4883: So I wouldn't worry too much about it. But the point of all that is to say there are weaknesses in VM kernel modules (in my opinion) more often than in normal kernel modules. There's just so much more they have to do, and they're just a small part of the whole virtualization infrastructure.
[17:42] <tyyhzh> hhfhj
[17:42] <ShinyObjects> There's only so much time the VMWare and VBox devs have to dedicate in a day - the modules don't get as solid a look as do the ones from a dedicated hardware manufacturer whose only job it is is to provide a solid kernel module
[17:42] <tgm4883> ShinyObjects, I'm not too worried about it, but I like to keep informed about what could happen
[17:42] <c|oneman> what startup methods can people use without root? Just cron?
[17:42] <lucky1z> hello ubuntu group having an issue installing skype.. error message skype: Depends: skype-bin but it is not going to be installed
[17:42] <ShinyObjects> tgm4883: Totally. Yeah it's fascinating stuff and smart to stay on top of
[17:43] <c|oneman> FatDarrel: ?
[17:43] <tyyhzh> tgtgtgtg
[17:43] <tyyhzh> ijklkkmij
[17:43] <Myrtti> tyyhzh: test successful. Can you stop now?
[17:43] <tgm4883> !skype | lucky1z
[17:44] <lucky1z> ok ty
[17:44] <gnuLix> Hello, guys. I use the command "ssh -t -t user@hostname" but it echo every my command and I do not receive the rulst of the command. For example I would like to see the path after I run the command "pwd" and not the text "pwd". Can someone explain me what I am doing wrong?
[17:44] <tyyhzh> 你能用英文交谈不？
[17:45] <bazhang> tyyhzh, english here only
[17:46] <tyyhzh> english
[17:46] <bazhang> tyyhzh, /join #ubuntu-cn
[17:46] <tyyhzh> I don't no
[17:47] <ioria> gnuLix: sorry for my ignorance, but the option -t stands for...  what ? :P
[17:47] <ali_> to all:how to use sstp in ubuntu?
[17:47] <tyyhzh>  /join #ubuntu-cn??????
[17:47] <grendal-prime> anyone here using nomachine to connect to rdp
[17:47] <tyyhzh> #ubuntu-cn
[17:48] <gnuLix> ioria: to create a terminal
[17:48] <grendal-prime> like say your running ...a kvm server with windows guests.  and you want to nomachine rdp connect to them throught the kvmhost?
[17:48] <ioria> gnuLix: thanx, i have never used that
[17:49] <MalMen> i still cant make the ip of my server resolve to the name i want, anyone can give me a litle help ?
[17:49] <gnuLix> ioria: -t (Force pseudo-tty allocation)
[17:50] <ioria> gnuLix: ok, i'll try it ^_^
[17:52] <alex_723> oi!
[17:52] <ioria> gnuLix: well, on my system it works fine
[17:53] <alex_723> when i try to change my keyboardlayout i get the error: unknown charset unicode - ignoring charset request
[17:53] <gnuLix> ioria: what did you type exactly?
[17:53] <kingofswords> hi...im having problems mounting an iso file
[17:53] <alex_723> is there a way to fix this problem?
[17:53] <jhutchins_wk> gnuLix: What are you trying to do?  Are you trying to get an interactive shell, or are you using this in a script?
[17:54] <ioria> gnuLix: ssh -t user@domain
[17:54] <tyyhzh> msn??/?
[17:54] <airlynx> is recordmydesktop the only screen video capture program that works with audio and more specifically works with JACK?
[17:55] <tyyhzh>  j mnnkjnblkj
[17:55] <tyyhzh> kjnjuiuuygmjk
[17:56] <gnuLix> jhutchins_wk: I use Qt and Qprocess to run commands and to receive the result in the document. But when I type commands like "sudo su" it tels me that I need tty. So the only way was to use ssh -t -t user@hostname. Yes, I really need interactive shell but I receive an echo from my commands.
[17:56] <guest8374> Hello, running ubuntu server 12.10 the fuser process takes 100% of one core. Any ideas whats causing this?
[17:57] <gnuLix> ioria: It works for me as well when I call it from the terminal, but when I use Qt it doesn't work. Fot this reason I use double "-t" because I call it from document not from shell.
[17:58] <gnuLix> but I can't menage the echo.
[18:03] <jhutchins_wk> gnuLix: If you need an interactive shell just use ssh user@host - that's the default mode.
[18:05] <gnuLix> jhutchins_wk: Yes, when you call it from terminal/shell.
[18:05] <Guest82825> guys, how can I use btrfs and encrypt all my /home? I wish to find a releable tutorial for it.
[18:06] <gnuLix> I need ssh -t -t to force pseudo-tty allocation because stdin isn't a terminal.
[18:06] <wachpwnski> Anyone know why pulse audio isn't detecting my panzerpoint hdmi audio device?
[18:07] <kingofswords> hi...im having problems mounting an iso file
[18:07] <ioria> gnuLix: did you write a program with Qt ?
[18:07] <gnuLix> ioria: yes, I did.
[18:08] <ioria> gnuLix: i did something like that with gtk, evocking the terminal
[18:08] <SonikkuAmerica> kingofswords: OK, how are you trying to mount it?
[18:09] <SonikkuAmerica> wachpwnski: Mainly because pulseaudio is miserable at detecting HDMI audio.
[18:10] <wachpwnski> SonikkuAmerica: how do I fix this? Because I don't have any audio on here.
[18:10] <gnuLix> ioria: How did you call terminal?
[18:10] <wachpwnski>  Chip: Intel PantherPoint HDMI
[18:11] <ioria> gnuLix: with the "system" call ... (gtk + C)
[18:11] <SonikkuAmerica> wachpwnski: Start by running  aplay -l
[18:12] <jyg> blargh, every time i install a newer version of ubuntu i have a harder time with video drivers
[18:13] <jyg> i'm stuck now when i get to the boot screen (ubuntu .....)
[18:13] <jyg> cannot ctrl-alt-f# to a console, and i have to boot to text to get anything done
[18:13] <jyg> (boot text, service networking start, etc
[18:14] <SonikkuAmerica> jyg: What kind of GPU or card do you have?
[18:14] <levo> what's the reason my cpu usage suddenly goes up (2% --> 80or higher) when i just start a new activity? like switching between firefox tabs?
[18:14] <SonikkuAmerica> levo: What CPU?
[18:14] <levo> SonikkuAmerica: intel core 2 duo
[18:15] <levo> all the problem started from last night , before that everything was alright
[18:15] <levo> (ubuntu precise)
[18:16] <levo> I even booted up with previous linux kernels and tried different sesseions (lxde and xfce) but nothing has changed
[18:16] <SonikkuAmerica> levo: Good question. I have no problems with the same CPU (on quantal).
[18:17] <SonikkuAmerica> levo: It might have to do with other hardware specs too... Make and model, GPU, RAM amount?
[18:17] <holstein> levo: i would expect activity to effect the system
[18:18] <holstein> !nomodeset | jyg i would try this from a live cd.. and i might consider just sticking with 12.04 lts
[18:18] <levo> holstein: but switching between irc channels take cpu from 4% to 80%???? i don't expect it at all!
[18:18] <levo> SonikkuAmerica: 2GB Ram , Graphic: intel 4500 chipset family
[18:19] <SonikkuAmerica> (assuming that's Intel HD 4500) Sounds like it shouldn't affect anything, although I might suspect your RAM (even though you have plenty)
[18:19] <holstein> levo: in what client? a GUI client?
[18:20] <_raven> xubuntu 12.10 - window manager crashes suddenly after reboot: anyhow after a normal reboot there are some programs autostarting i did never configured. the tasklist shortly appears then disappears and the windows are without borders/frames - any idea?
[18:21] <holstein> _raven: i would try as another user.. test as another user. also try the #xubuntu channel
[18:21] <drehdz> what are the real benefits of using the 64-bit version of ubuntu over the x86 version?
[18:22] <levo> holstein: yes
[18:22] <_raven> holstein would be possible to reinstall/reconfigure it and to see what happens?
[18:22] <holstein> levo: i would expect that
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> drehdz: You can address >3 GB of RAM
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> *3,2
[18:23] <SonikkuAmerica> *3 POINT 2 (dang my fingers)
[18:23] <holstein> _raven: to reinsatll the OS? sure.. but try just making a new user, and test.. if all is well as the new user, you konw the issue is with your current user account. not the OS
[18:23] <drehdz> i thought with PAE you can address more on the 32-bit version
[18:23] <_raven> holstein no only the window manager
[18:23] <jyg> SnonikkuAmerica, ati radeon hd 2400, a bit aged
[18:23] <jyg> ubottu, i'm using 12.04.2
[18:23] <guest8374> Hello, running ubuntu server 12.10 the fuser process takes 100% of one core. Any ideas whats causing this?
[18:23] <jyg> oy...
[18:24] <jyg> holstein ^^^ :)
[18:24] <ioria> _raven: once i deleted all the dot folders in my home and it restarted well
[18:24] <guest8374> Hello, running ubuntu server 12.10 the fuser process takes 100% of one core. Any ideas whats causing this?
[18:24] <holstein> _raven: i would test as another user.. if you reinstall, and the issue is in your user config, then the same config with the potential issue will be used with the new user
[18:24] <_raven> holstein ok ill try
[18:25] <levo> holstein: what's the problem? look when i'm typing these messages cpu doesn't go up but when I click on another channel's tab cpu goes up
[18:25] <holstein> drehdz: you can search and read articles like http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?74412-Ubuntu-12-10-32-bit-vs-64-bit-Linux-Performance or try the versions live.. its really preference and facts about software/hardware support that are relevant
[18:25] <holstein> levo: im suggesting there is no problem
[18:26] <levo> holstein: when I'm moving a window around cpu stays 100% until i drop it
[18:26] <drehdz> thank you holstein
[18:26] <jyg> are stock 32bit ubuntu kernel PAE by default?  (uname doesn't explicitly mention pae)
[18:27] <holstein> levo: could be the graphics driver, i suppose.. CPU at 100% is different that what you were mentioning before
[18:27] <levo> how can i reinstall graphic driver?
[18:27] <levo> holstein
[18:28] <holstein> jyg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE#Ubuntu_12.10_.28Quantal.2C_unreleased.29_and_onwards
[18:28] <holstein> levo: what driver did you install?
[18:28] <geomyidae_> Why can't I login to cups?
[18:28] <geomyidae_> I c an on my old machine
[18:28] <geomyidae_> but not this one
[18:29] <levo> holstein: i didn't any. just the default thing
[18:29] <holstein> levo: this is literally only a troubleshooting scenario.. are there other drivers available? like proprietary ones? a nvidia device or ati?
[18:30] <wildstrangething> Hi guys... I have 2x2TB hdd in software RAID 1 using ext4. I have to delete folders with 5 million 25KB files and its slow at a rate of 5000/min. Most of the time is spent waiting for `raid1_md3` which hogs up the IO%. Is my RAID1 slowing everything down?
[18:31] <levo> holstein: mine is intel 4500
[18:31] <levo> chipset family
[18:32] <uunderdog> Hi, first time on the IRC channel so let me know if I get anything wrong
[18:32] <uunderdog> I was hoping someone had some experience with the advanced options of the boot-repair tool
[18:33] <uunderdog> I have a Lenovo G770 and was able to install plain vanilla Windows 7 and Windows 8 and this dual booted fine
[18:34] <holstein> levo: is this the 12.04 LTS version? might try a few differnt kernels from live CD's and see if you have different results.. or try a more definitely test to make sure you are acutally getting those figures you are finding
[18:34] <uunderdog> But when I installed ubuntu 12.10 and Grub, I can boot into Ubunut, the default choice, but only a black screen when I choose Windows
[18:34] <jyg> meh
[18:34] <gustav_> Why is supertuxkart crashing? You have to fix this problem now. :(
[18:34] <holstein> uunderdog: i would just try recovering grub again..
[18:34] <holstein> !grub | uunderdog
[18:35] <levo> holstein: yes i'm using 12.04.
[18:35] <uunderdog> Already tried the basic options for recovering grub
[18:35] <holstein> gustav_: you can try starting from command line and see if there are any helpful errors.. not sure if any volunteers resposible for that package are here right now to "fisx" anything
[18:35] <holstein> fix*
[18:35] <uunderdog> Like I said, Grub is working, I just can't get to Windows when I select that option
[18:36] <holstein> uunderdog: then move on to advanced.. from that link i gave
[18:36] <holstein> uunderdog: did you recover GRUB using a live CD? have you ran the "sudo update-grub" command from inside ubuntu ?
[18:36] <gustav_> holstein: dmesg reports segfault and "trap stack segment."
[18:36] <_raven> holstein ok ok seems to be a broken conf file - how to repair?
[18:37] <gustav_> holstein: segfault in libIrrlicht.
[18:37] <uunderdog> Yes, I will move onto advanced. Other than the link provided any other good source of gotchas?
[18:37] <Kranker> Hi Guys, possible to ask some mail issue problems with ubuntu and Server Administration? im Getting many times Mail Delivery Failers and i dont no what to do againt it.. or am i wrong here? :P
[18:37] <holstein> _raven: i usually move all the files out of my user /home.. the .hidden files and the .config files.. i reboot and test.. then i put back what i need, and keep testing til either i get back everthing i need, or i find the issue
[18:37] <sobersabre> hi guys. Today an office obove ours has burned "a bit". as a result the water from their sprinklers filled up our office, so basically the office is shut down fully. I wonder: can somebody in here with some experience with recovery from such an event share experience? I've got many questions :)
[18:38] <sobersabre> I'm of course focused on the computing infrastructure.
[18:38] <holstein> sobersabre: this is not the channel for that question.. but i use testdisk if hard drives are still spinning to recover data
[18:38] <sobersabre> holstein: what would be a better channel for that question ?
[18:38] <holstein> gustav_: i would just look for and apply all upgrades and test again
[18:39] <uunderdog> Thank you. I will push on my Grub solution further.
[18:39] <gustav_> holstein: There aren't any. :/
[18:39] <valeriava> ciao
[18:39] <valeriava> !lista
[18:39] <holstein> gustav_: open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" without the quotes
[18:40] <gustav_> holstein: Just did.
[18:40] <holstein> gustav_: you can try reinstalling the application.. you can try stepping it down a version
[18:40] <gustav_> holstein: Can I do that with apt?
[18:41] <holstein> gustav_: it can be done with a package manager.. i use synaptic
[18:41] <mbduino> what's up with ubuntu 13? isn't 12 the latest? 13 still experimental?
[18:41] <ShinyObjects> Well well - hey exposition - check this out: I tried marlin (another gtk3 file browser) and it crashed as well
[18:41] <ShinyObjects> Thunar (gtk2) and pcmanfm (gtk2) both work fine
[18:41] <mbduino> ehnee bahday?
[18:41] <gustav_> holstein: Ah. There's a newer version in "backports." Trying that.
[18:41] <holstein> mbduino: 12.04 is the lts.. 12.10 is the current release, and 13.04 is not released yet
[18:41] <ShinyObjects> Oh well - it's fine with me I like the look of GTK2 better :)
[18:42] <mbduino> ah k
[18:42] <ShinyObjects> now to figure out how to convince cairo-dock to use thunar instead of nautilus
[18:42] <mbduino> downloading ubuntu for rails development...closest I can get to a macbook pro :P
[18:42] <Cactus> #hzv
[18:42] <ShinyObjects> mbduino: better than an mbp :)
[18:42] <mbduino> arguably ^
[18:42] <ShinyObjects> mbduino: I did a ton of rails apps on my macbook pro... running linux
[18:42] <mbduino> although, I'd be open to offers if anyone here has a macbook pro they're looking to sell :P
[18:43] <holstein> !ot | mbduino
[18:43] <mbduino> mac is so overrated overhyped and overpriced
[18:43] <sobersabre> guys please pong me on disaster recovery practices, with hopeful focus on water.
[18:43] <ShinyObjects> Between sshfs and so many other badass tools Linux has for web-dev and Ruby in specific.... I put Ubuntu on my Macbook :)
[18:43] <mbduino> hmm
[18:43] <holstein> sobersabre: i would try a hardware channel.. or just search, or hire a professional
[18:43] <mbduino> hostein is off-topic, just the name detracts me from my thought process
[18:44] <sobersabre> holstein: http://www.wallsave.com/wallpaper/1280x1024/fuck-off-by-nezodesign-con-cr-tica-525733.html
[18:44] <mbduino> what about textmate? everyone seems to be using that
[18:44] <mbduino> I'm using sublime on my pc here
[18:44] <mbduino> anything equivalent for teh buntu?
[18:44] <ShinyObjects> mbduino: it's alright but it wasn't the cat's meow
[18:44] <Kranker> Hi Guys, possible to ask some mail issue problems with ubuntu and Server Administration? im Getting many times Mail Delivery Failers and i dont no what to do againt it.. or am i wrong here? :P
[18:44] <mbduino> no meow huh
[18:44] <ShinyObjects> both gedit and vim have snippets and other cool plugins
[18:45] <holstein> sobersabre: i mean do harm.. chec the /topic here for what is supported
[18:45] <ShinyObjects> Kate as well if you're a KDE type
[18:45] <Pici> mbduino: I thought sublime text had a linux build.
[18:45] <holstein> mean no harm*
[18:45] <mbduino> I think it does...just don't like the $70 price tag
[18:46] <end_guy> does Ubuntu come with curl installed by default?
[18:46] <tux_> end_guy, yup
[18:46] <end_guy> thanks
[18:46] <Pici> end_guy: server, yes, desktop no, iirc.
[18:47] <marksaitis> Lets say I have Ubuntu 12.04 or Debian as such installed. All my soft is controlled by package manager. But I go and create a file /lib/libsomething.so . If we visually imagine, a big portion of my system files came from packags which are installed using package managers. But this one file didn't. Is there an utility which would visually of somehow different show me what system files were installed from all packag
[18:47] <crankharder> how do I pass STDIN to apt-get install -y ?
[18:47] <marksaitis> es installed on the system and which did not. Such tool would be great to inspect system integrity, does anything like that exist? PLEASE HELP
[18:47] <tux_> end_guy, curl -V
[18:47] <tux_> curl 7.27.0 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.27.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1c zlib/1.2.7 libidn/1.25 librtmp/2.3
[18:48] <jrib> crankharder: why are you doing this?
[18:48] <ShinyObjects> mbduino: You can demo sublime for free.
[18:49] <crankharder> jrib: why *aren't* you doing this?
[18:49] <ShinyObjects> mbduino: If it saves you time it's worth the $
[18:49] <holstein> marksaitis: a package manager would do that.. otherwise, if you want to go "out on your own" with package management, a file manager will show you files, and you can test the files as you like
[18:49] <jrib> crankharder: do you want help with your issue?
[18:49] <ShinyObjects> mbduino: If you're a student or the like I'm sure the author would kick you a copy at a reduced price or perhaps even free if you asked nicely.
[18:49] <crankharder> jrib: because this script dumps package names that need to be installed to STDOUT, and that line needs parsing, so I've parsed it, and now want to pass it to apt-get
[18:49] <crankharder> Missing required packages: build-essential, libreadline6-dev, zlib1g-dev, libssl-dev, libyaml-dev, libsqlite3-dev, sqlite3, libxml2-dev, libxslt-dev, autoconf, libc6-dev, libgdbm-dev, ncurses-dev, automake, libtool, bison, pkg-config, libffi-dev.
[18:50] <jrib> crankharder: you can use xargs.  But if you say what your actual issue is, there may be a better solution.  What did you do to get that output?
[18:50] <crankharder> $ rvm requirements 2> /dev/null | tail -n 1 | python -c "import sys ; line = sys.stdin.readline() ; list = line.split(':')[1].split('.')[0].split(',') ; print ' '.join(str(x) for x in list)"
[18:50] <crankharder>  build-essential  libreadline6-dev  zlib1g-dev  libssl-dev  libyaml-dev  libsqlite3-dev  sqlite3  libxml2-dev  libxslt-dev  autoconf  libc6-dev  libgdbm-dev  ncurses-dev  automake  libtool  bison  pkg-config  libffi-dev
[18:50] <holstein> crankharder: ^^
[18:51] <holstein> !checkinstall
[18:51] <jrib> crankharder: I'm not familiar with rvm.  Did you use apt to install rvm?
[18:52] <marksaitis> holstein, ok thanx thats what everybody say. I thought maybe a well known tool exists for that
[18:52] <crankharder> | xargs sudo apt-get -y install
[18:52] <crankharder> ftw, ty
[18:54] <awesomess3> Does ubuntu work on the newer laptops? do the web cams function?
[18:54] <jpds> awesomess3: Only one way to find out.
[18:55] <holstein> awesomess3: try it live.. hardware that can be supported is usually supported "out of the box"
[18:55] <mbduino> back
[18:55] <dodo3773> awesomess3: Depends on the webcam. Pop in a livecd. Unless you are questioning buying a new laptop in which case just buy one that is already supported like system76 or something
[18:55] <xrq> awesomess3: that's a pretty vague question for what could be hundreds or thousands of laptops
[18:56] <mbduino> ShinyObjects, I presume you speak from experience re: sublime?
[18:57] <ShinyObjects> mbduino: Not with sublime specifically, no. But I have found that a lot of independent software authors will do stuff like that.
[18:57] <ShinyObjects> mbduino: I asked a few of them nicely, explaining I was a student and didn't have cash to throw around on anything but top ramen. They were cool about it.
[18:58] <ShinyObjects> Then, once I graduated and had a good job I made sure to buy a license out of gratitude :)
[18:58] <mbduino> well, I'm not a student per se, except self-teaching, I'm a student of rails at the moment, learning it on my own :P
[18:58] <mbduino> but I don't really have a budget for software right now
[18:58] <manucoman> hello
[18:59] <levo> how to reinstall graphic driver? (it's not propriety)
[18:59] <ShinyObjects> mbduino: couldn't hurt to ask. Just remember - when you get a paying rails gig be kind to those that were kind to you :)
[18:59] <mbduino> I r working towards that
[19:01] <mbduino> rails job > php?
[19:01] <TK-999> levo: which driver would that be?
[19:01] <mbduino> nm
[19:02] <levo> TK-999: graphic driver for intel
[19:02] <ShinyObjects> mbduino: depends more on the programmer, less on the technology.
[19:02] <ShinyObjects> There are high paying jobs for PHP and high paying jobs for Rails. Just gotta know your stuff and find the right place.
[19:03] <bazhang> !ot | ShinyObjects mbduino
[19:03] <mbduino> channelop, if you weren't a channelop I'd say what I was going to say right now
[19:03] <TK-999> levo: If you are referring to the Intel i915 driver, that's a kernel module and you'd need a new kernel for that
[19:03] <bazhang> mbduino, take it elsewhere
[19:03] <levo> TK-999: intel 4500 chipset family
[19:04] <ShinyObjects> He's right mbduino - sorry bazhang
[19:04] <TK-999> levo: lspci -k ?
[19:04] <ShinyObjects> This channel gets busy and it's hard enough to follow conversations then
[19:05]  * mbduino likes other channels that are less disposed on the "off topic" policy...seemingly more warm
[19:07] <josePHPagoda> Hello everyone!  Anyone here use bluetooth headsets under Ubuntu?  I can get it to pair and work, but i have to remove the pairing and pair again each time, it doesn't seem to remember or be able to connect automatically.  Any ideas? 12.10 is the version I am running.
[19:09] <Jimster480-L> yea I am a software dev I know tons of languages, but they are all self taught.
[19:09] <daemoen> hey guys, why isnt there a java-package provider for 12.04 ?
[19:09] <Jimster480-L> I'm working at a dev company now and I'm learning all kinds of webdev languages
[19:09] <xangua> !java | daemoen
[19:09] <Myrtti> mbduino: this is also the biggest channel on one of the biggest IRC networks, sadly we have to keep the discussion strictly support only to give the IRC newcomers a chance.
[19:09] <bazhang> Jimster480-L, this is not the channel for chit chat
[19:09] <Jimster480-L> since I only knew desktop languages (C++,C,ASM, & some java/vb,etc)
[19:10] <Jimster480-L> bazhang: since when does nobody talk here.
[19:10] <bazhang> Jimster480-L, #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[19:10] <Jimster480-L> lmao everyone was just talking about this crap but now I say something and its not the channel.
[19:10] <Jimster480-L> LOL
[19:10] <Jimster480-L> k
[19:10] <Jimster480-L> bye
[19:10] <FloodBot1> Jimster480-L: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:10] <Jimster480-L> retards
[19:11] <ioria> daemon: you can choose sun or open java on Synaptic
[19:11] <servvs> I am trying to creat a debootstrap but I always return an error "Failed to retrieve InRelease"
[19:14] <Sietse_> Hey, I have this problem where everytime I try to install something, I get 'error creating symbolic link `./usr/bin/***': Permission denied' or something along those lines. I have been changing configurations and reinstalling for quite some time now, but I really can't find the solution
[19:14] <airlynx> what is the pre-release channel?
[19:15] <bekks> Sietse_: How do you try to install things?
[19:15] <Sietse_> Just 'apt-get install ant'
[19:15] <TK-999> With sudo?
[19:15] <Sietse_> No but I am logged in as root
[19:16] <bim>  #ubuntustudio
[19:16] <Sietse_> Otherwise it would say it couldn't lock the dpkg file or something like that
[19:16] <Sietse_> And putting sudo before it doesn't make a difference
[19:17] <awesomess3> Sietse_, are you using the system as a Live CD?
[19:17] <Sietse_> No, it is already installed (on a remote system)
[19:18] <dilson> Tenho Bodhi Linux instalado, fiz convers'ao para pt br, todos os programas instalados est'ao em portugues entrwetanto os menus continuam em ingles, como proceder para resolver est
[19:18] <awesomess3> Sietse_, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:18] <Sietse_> 12.04
[19:18] <ikonia> dilson: do you speak English ?
[19:18] <Sietse_> 12.10, sorry
[19:19] <dilson> e problema. Grato no speak enghish
[19:19] <jpds> !br | dilson
[19:21] <Sietse_> awesomess3: do you have any idea?
[19:22] <awesomess3> Sietse_, does: `touch /tmp/test` work?
[19:23] <Sietse_> Yes, it does
[19:23] <awesomess3> Sietse_, what about:   `cd /; apt-get install ant`
[19:24] <bekks> Sietse_: Pastebin that entire output please.
[19:24] <bekks> !paste | Sietse_
[19:24] <StephenS> VEVO za sve zivo
[19:24] <Sietse_> awesomess3: bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614526/
[19:25] <bekks> Sietse_: Could you pastebin the output of "mount" and "dmesg" too, please?
[19:25] <redcat> !list
[19:25] <on3453v3n> hey hello, is posibl to hide a hostpot ¡????
[19:25] <redcat> hi everyone
[19:25] <Extreme> hi redcat
[19:26] <on3453v3n> everyone can help me ???
[19:26] <bekks> on3453v3n: Whats a hostpot, and what do you mean by hiding it?
[19:27] <Sietse_> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614536/ If you need more output of dmesg please tell me.
[19:27] <redcat> I think hotspot mean open network isn't it ?
[19:27] <TK-999> on3453v3n: Do you wish to configure a Wi-Fi network?
[19:27] <bekks> Sietse_: I need the full output of dmesg.
[19:27] <Sietse_> bekks: Ok, moment
[19:28] <on3453v3n> bekks, i create a hostpot in my machine to conect whit a noters cumputer , but i want to hide that wirles ?
[19:28] <awesomess3> Sietse_, maybe there is not enough space left on the device? try `df`
[19:28] <bekks> on3453v3n: So how do you create it?
[19:28] <Extreme> on3453v3n: if you're trying to hide your Wi-Fi network, you can disable/uncheck "SSID broadcast"  in your router configuration page (normally 192.168.1.1 )
[19:28] <on3453v3n> TK-999, yea but in de configuration of hostpot don say enithig about
[19:29] <on3453v3n> bekks, yea
[19:29] <TK-999> on3453v3n: What brand of router?
[19:29] <bekks> on3453v3n: Thats not an answer to my question.
[19:29] <on3453v3n> Extreme, mmm no but not is in my router it is in my machine.
[19:29] <Sietse_> bekks: awesomess3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614543/
[19:30] <bekks> Sietse_: Thats not the entire output of dmesg.
[19:30] <Sietse_> I am pretty sure it is
[19:30] <TK-999> on3453v3n: Ad-hoc wifi. Moment
[19:31] <Sietse_> bekks: what is missing? I am pretty sure it is everything
[19:31] <TK-999> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[19:31] <Tex_Nick> on3453v3n:  most wireless routers will allow you to turn the "beacon" that way it's hidden from all people except hackers ;-)
[19:31] <bekks> Sietse_: I can see it is not. I strongly doubt that you turn on your computer and paste df and dmesg within the visible 6 seconds.
[19:31] <on3453v3n> Tex_Nick, ok
[19:32] <Tex_Nick> *turn beacon OFF
[19:33] <Sietse_> bekks: Am I supposed to reboot it? If I just run 'dmesg' the last message is from 6.198 seconds
[19:33] <LINEAR> CIAO
[19:33] <LINEAR> !LIST
[19:33] <awesomess3> Sietse_, alright...let's do something weird:  `touch /usr/bin/ant`
[19:34] <Sietse_> awesomess3: Permission denied
[19:34] <awesomess3> Sietse_, ooo weird.
[19:34] <Sietse_> I am still logged in as root
[19:34] <on3453v3n> bekks, ok, mi probles is when im create a hotspot in mi machine, in the red is visible.
[19:35] <bekks> on3453v3n: Sorry, I dont get what you said - could you please rephrase it? What does "in the red is visible" mean in terms of a wifi network?
[19:35] <Sietse_> awesomess3: it is :/ I am going crazy
[19:35] <awesomess3> Sietse_, did we get the output of `mount` from you?
[19:36] <Sietse_> awesomess3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614543/ At the top.
[19:36] <bekks> Sietse_: df isnt mount
[19:37] <Sietse_> awesomess3: bekks http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614536/ Woops
[19:38] <on3453v3n> bekks, how to hide ssid wif hotspot ?
[19:38] <TK-999> on3453v3n: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[19:39] <Jordan_U> Sietse_: Did you install Ubuntu on this remote system, or is it hosted by someone else?
[19:40] <Sietse_> Jordan_U: It's a VPS I got. I didn't install it myself but it was clean when I got it (+ basic stuff like sshd)
[19:40] <Sietse_> I don't hoste it myself, no
[19:40] <jimbo894> anyone able to point me in the direction for the best virtual box fo buntu?
[19:40] <on3453v3n> TK-999, thank you, let me see it
[19:41] <awesomess3> Sietse_, from dmesg: "EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro"
[19:42] <Bray90820> Anyone know how to map a keystroke to a bash script
[19:43] <Sietse_> awesomess3: What are you trying to say?
[19:43] <awesomess3> Sietse_, what I think may be happening is that your main/primary partition is being remounted readonly.
[19:44] <awesomess3> Sietse_, I know what you need to do!
[19:44] <Sietse_> awesomess3: What? :D
[19:44] <bekks> awesomess3: The partition is not mounted read-only as can be seen in the mount output.
[19:45] <awesomess3> Sietse_, `touch /forcefsck; reboot`
[19:45] <Sietse_> awesomess3: Ok, I will try :)
[19:45] <Jordan_U> Sietse_: They're probably doing something fancy with Apparmor, selinux, or similar. Hosting services often give what appears to be root access to a real machine when in fact it's a root UID within some type of container, where you don't have full privileges.
[19:46] <awesomess3> Sietse_, fingers crossed this will work
[19:46] <Sietse_> awesomess3: Nope :(
[19:47] <Sietse_> Jordan_U: Yeah, I was just reading about it. But before I could install just normally
[19:47] <Sietse_> 'root' should be able to have access to /usr/sbin
[19:47] <Sietse_> I am probably going to do a reinstall
[19:48] <Jordan_U> Sietse_: How are you going to re-install Ubuntu on a hosted machine?
[19:49] <awesomess3> Maybe the root that you're using is ...chrooted to the wrong place? I don't know just an idea.
[19:49] <Sietse_> Jordan_U: I can just email the admin. That is no problem. And I have access to a control panel, maybe I can even do that from there
[19:51] <Jordan_U> Sietse_: If you're emailing the admin, you might also ask him for details on exactly how the hosted Ubuntu installation is configured.
[19:51] <Sietse_> Jordan_U: True, I will include that in my mail
[19:51] <awesomess3> Sietse_, ask him why `touch /usr/bin/ant` renders as Permission Denied as root.
[19:52] <Sietse_> awesomess3: I think it has something to do with myself too. Because yesterday I could install things just normally
[19:52] <Bray90820> Anyone know how to map a keystroke to a bash script
[19:53] <jrib> Bray90820: in X?
[19:53] <raj> which imageviewer comes with ubuntu?
[19:54] <Bray90820> jrib what do you mean
[19:54] <awesomess3> Bray90820, make the bash script executable: `chmod +x myscript.sh` and then go to your system configuration settings and keyboard shortcuts and then Add 'myscript.sh' to be executed....?
[19:54] <jrib> Bray90820: in what context do you want your keystroke to have an effect?
[19:55] <Sietse_> Anyways, thanks (mainly) awesomess3, bekks and Jordan_U for your time :) I gotta go now. Bye
[19:55] <Bray90820> jrib well right now in keyboard shortcuts i have it set to execute a keystroke every time i rotate the screen on my netbook/tablet convertible
[19:56] <dleonardi> hello! when running apt-get install i get this: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libcurl4-openssl-dev : Depends: librtmp-dev but it is not going to be installed
[19:56] <dleonardi> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:56] <jyg> In 10.10 I was able to have my dual head display use separate desktops, so both had separate pagers and when I switched desktop within one pager it would not switch on the other screen
[19:57] <dleonardi> can somebody advise on how to fix this?
[19:57] <jyg> I do not see any way to do this in 12.04
[19:57] <Bray90820> jrib but what i want is a bash script so it can enter and exit tablet mode every time i rotate the screen
[19:57] <jyg> dleonardi, does it say why it wont be installed?
[19:57] <dleonardi> i am running 12.04 LTS and have just ran a dist-upgrade
[19:57] <dleonardi> jyg: i'll paste the whole output on pastebin, one second
[19:57] <jrib> dleonardi: you have no idea why?  No repositories not meant for your ubuntu version?  No unofficial repositories? No .deb packages manually installed?
[19:57] <Jordan_U> dleonardi: What do you mean by "have just ran a dist-upgrade"?
[19:58] <dleonardi> http://pastebin.com/GH6inpbV
[19:58] <dleonardi> sorry, not a dist-upgrade but a apt-get upgrade
[19:58] <dleonardi> i did that in an attempt to try and correct this
[19:58] <dleonardi> after not updating this system for a few months
[19:59] <jrib> Bray90820: did you see awesomess3's suggestion?
[19:59] <dleonardi> jrib: let me post my apt config as well.
[19:59] <Bray90820> jrib yes but i don't know how to actually add the script to keyboard shortcuts
[19:59] <Bray90820> do i just drag and drop it into the space or what
[20:00] <blazindrop> hi, I'm using ubuntu 12.10 with empathy and almost every time I tried to open a new IM the new window never appears. is this a setting in ubuntu unity?
[20:00] <jrib> Bray90820: I don't know.  Maybe awesomess3 can help
[20:00] <Bray90820> awesomess3 how would i set it as a keyboard shortcut
[20:01] <awesomess3> Bray90820, jrib In 10.04 there is an "Add" button in the Keyboard Shortcut window.
[20:01] <Bray90820> yes i know that
[20:01] <dleonardi> here is my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/uMZwfyd5
[20:01] <Bray90820> but how would i add the script
[20:01] <jrib> dleonardi: did you see my questions?
[20:01] <Bray90820> like physically
[20:01] <Bray90820> would i just drag and drop
[20:02] <awesomess3> Bray90820, nope.  click the "Add" button and then add your command/script to the textfield for "command"
[20:02] <dleonardi> jrib: i'm not aware of non-compatible repositories, i do have ZFS which is a non-official repo, and i'm not aware of manually installed .deb files
[20:02] <Bray90820> awesomess3 yes but how
[20:02] <bekks> dleonardi: Which doesnt mean that a PPA cant break your system.
[20:02] <awesomess3> Bray90820, your script, if 'myscript.sh' you would put this: /home/myname/myscript.sh
[20:03] <Bray90820> ahh ok
[20:03] <Bray90820> awesomess3 thank you
[20:03] <dleonardi> bekks: i hope that adding ZFS support doesnt break debian.. so far i had no problems
[20:03] <awesomess3> Bray90820, are you using a tablet with Ubuntu on it?
[20:03] <m8> we
[20:03] <jrib> dleonardi: pastebin output of « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install librtmp-dev; apt-cache policy librtmp-dev »
[20:03] <dleonardi> sure. one second.
[20:03] <bekks> dleonardi: Despite the fact that it awefully slow since implemented in userspace... :P
[20:03] <Bray90820> it's a netbook/tablet convertible
[20:04] <dleonardi> bekks: it works :) but meh.
[20:04] <bekks> dleonardi: Which zpool and which zfs version does it provide currently?
[20:04] <awesomess3> Bray90820, whoa that's cool. What is the name of it I may want to get one.
[20:04] <David--> hi, im running 12.04 and have swapped the hard drive with the installation on it from one server to another. The o/s boots but there's no network connectivity. I can only think it's something to do with a different MAC address. Would anyone be able to help me re-configure it?
[20:05] <Bray90820> awesomess3 it's a dell inspiron duo but sadly there not being made anymore
[20:05] <awesomess3> Bray90820, nnoooo
[20:06] <snoopybbt> hello there! anyone using netkit ??
[20:06] <Bray90820> awesomess3 the ultrabooks are convertible tho
[20:06] <snoopybbt> i cant get a lab starting
[20:06] <bekks> !ask | snoopybbt
[20:06] <Bray90820> well some of them
[20:06] <David--> anyone?
[20:06] <awesomess3> David--, I'm surprised the networking doesn't autoconfigure on-boot.
[20:07] <dleonardi> jrib: http://pastebin.com/fV6eiYJX
[20:07] <awesomess3> David--, I use 10.04, and the networking auto-configures on-boot.
[20:07] <snoopybbt> i have defined a netkit lab but cant get it to start using lstart, i'm using ubuntu 12.04, anyone had a similar issue ?
[20:07] <bekks> snoopybbt: Do you have any errors?
[20:07] <David--> awesomess3: im a real noob, please can you help me problem solve it?
[20:07] <snoopybbt> bekks: no error actually
[20:07] <jrib> dleonardi: apt-cache policy librtmp0
[20:08] <David--> it's set to static ip, i type "ifup eth0" and it says cannot find device eth0
[20:08] <snoopybbt> bekks: return code is 0 too
[20:08] <TK-999> David--: Type this: ip link
[20:08] <David--> it times out when booting up
[20:08] <TK-999> That will list your ethernet devices
[20:08] <dleonardi> jrib: http://pastebin.com/MwuhVaHP
[20:08] <snoopybbt> bekks: it "fails" ad loading vm definition from lab.conf
[20:08] <jrib> dleonardi: do you understand now your issue?
[20:08] <snoopybbt> bekks: it gets lab description but nothing else
[20:09] <dleonardi> jrib: no i dont.
[20:09] <David--> TK-999, thats it... they are named eth2 and eth3 now
[20:09] <David--> TK-999: maybe cos it's a new NIC
[20:09] <David--> can i rename them back?
[20:09] <jrib> David--: you have a version of librtmp0 installed not from the official repositories (probably from some ppa that you've disabled now)
[20:09] <TK-999> Yes. That's why Ubuntu should switch to persistent names like Arch
[20:09] <jrib> dleonardi: above was for you
[20:09] <TK-999> I don't think you should rename them
[20:09] <dleonardi> so remove that, and reinstall ?
[20:10] <David--> change the interfaces file to eth3 ?
[20:10] <dleonardi> jrib: ^^
[20:10] <TK-999> Yes
[20:10] <jrib> dleonardi: you could do that if you want; sure
[20:10] <TK-999> I think that should fix it.
[20:10] <David--> and do i type ifup eth3 ?
[20:11] <David--> i think that worked, gonna reboot and hopefully it's fixed
[20:11] <dleonardi> jrib: i cant remove it via apt-get remove. it says that another package depends on it. is there a way to fix this?
[20:12] <TK-999> David--: You can check whether the network is up with 'ping -c 3 www.google.com'
[20:12] <jrib> dleonardi: you should be able to remove it; it will just also remove the other package.  But you may want to try to downgrade it instead with apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION
[20:12] <dleonardi> jrib: http://pastebin.com/zjUWrN2k
[20:12] <dleonardi> hm. ok, i'll try that. how do i figure out the target version i need?
[20:13] <David--> TK-999: Yes it pinged fine, im just rebooting to double check everything is okay. Thank you for your help
[20:13] <jrib> dleonardi: look at the apt-cache policy output
[20:13] <David--> saved me a sleepless night :)
[20:13] <dleonardi> ok jrib , i'll try. thanks for the input in the meanwhile
[20:13] <TK-999> oh, it was nothing
[20:15] <dleonardi> shazam. thanks jrib !
[20:15] <jrib> dleonardi: no problem
[20:15] <wildstrangething> How do i check a filesystem's mount options?
[20:15] <jrib> wildstrangething: mount
[20:17] <bekks> wildstrangething: Just take a look at "man mount", it will show you all applicable options for a specific fs.
[20:17] <wildstrangething> jrib bekks: thanks! it does not show whether my ext4 is using async or sync
[20:17] <wildstrangething> is there a way to tell?
[20:17] <wildstrangething> i would like it to be async
[20:18] <wildstrangething> I get: /dev/md4 on /var/www type ext4 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=writeback)
[20:18] <jrib> wildstrangething: default should be async (see man mount)
[20:20] <bekks> According to man mount, ext4 cant be mounted as sync. So async is the "default".
[20:20] <foobarfoo> ubuntu 12.10 doesn't seems to include python2.6-dev package, is that right?
[20:21] <jrib> foobarfoo: right
[20:21] <foobarfoo> jrib, do you any alternative in order to build modules for python2.6?
[20:21] <foobarfoo> sorry, do you know*
[20:21] <jrib> foobarfoo: well how did you get python 2.6 ?
[20:21] <foobarfoo> apt-get install python2.6
[20:22] <jrib> foobarfoo: apt-cache policy python2.6
[20:22] <jrib> !info python2.6
[20:23] <wildstrangething> bekks jrib: thanks!
[20:23] <foobarfoo> well, I might have installed it before upgrading to quantal
[20:23] <jrib> foobarfoo: why don't you use python 2.7?
[20:24] <wildstrangething> Any idea why iotop shows raid1_md4 hogging 99.99% of the IO? is it a problem with the software raid1? I'm deleting 5million files at a rate of 4000/min
[20:24] <foobarfoo> jrib,  we have a python application that is running on a server with python2.6  (centos), and can't run with python2.7 as there is a weird bug with sqlite3
[20:24] <bekks> wildstrangething: Deletiing your files is hogging the I/O. You just found out yourself. :)
[20:24] <foobarfoo> therefore I want to develop locally using python2.6
[20:25] <redtape-renegade> Can I have as much information as possible about how to follow this , posted earlier on identi.ca [ Good luck at 8pm http://is.gd/G6RdVp #sdkmaintainers #days ]
[20:25] <jrib> foobarfoo: I don't know what the best way for you to do that is. Maybe install python 2.6 from source and use virtualenv to maintain your packages
[20:25] <foobarfoo> jrib, right, that seems the way. thx
[20:26] <wildstrangething> bekks: so its normal that I'm deleting files at 4000/min? seems awfully slow to me
[20:26] <tama> Hi, from googling, I got this command: /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.0.0/24 -o WAN1 -p udp -m multiport --dport 53 -j ACCEPT. There is WAN1 on it. I am using eth1 and eth0 on my router and never heard of WAN1. Should I change it to eth0 or should I leave it? Is it an interface or something else? Thanks before.
[20:26] <redtape-renegade> eh, Hello ?
[20:27] <bean> redtape-renegade: its unlikely that many people here will have any information on that
[20:27] <bean> everyone here is a volunetter
[20:27] <bean> volunteer*
[20:27] <Pici> redtape-renegade: try #ubuntu-app-devel
[20:27] <redtape-renegade> bean, I just want to know where the announcements are taking place.
[20:27] <wildstrangething> bekks: Do you think that splitting up my files into subdirectories with max 10,000 files will make deleting much faster?
[20:27] <redtape-renegade> Pici, .... opening
[20:28] <bean> redtape-renegade: http://ubuntuonair.com/ it would appear
[20:28] <bekks> wildstrangething: No.
[20:29] <Bray90820> awesomess3 i tried adding the location of the script into the command slot but that didn't seem to work
[20:29] <wildstrangething> bekks: :/
[20:32] <Bray90820> awesomess3 nevermind i fixed it
[20:32] <awesomess3> Bray90820, are you sure the command is executable? Try executing the command on a terminal to test to see that it works: `./myscript.sh`
[20:32] <awesomess3> Bray90820, ok
[20:32] <Hilarie> Could someone point me in the right direction for this: set up lubuntu on a desktop without a HDD, just installed it to a 16gb thumb drive, now I have a HDD available, anyway to move it over w/o reinstalling?
[20:32] <Bray90820> i had the name wrong
[20:33] <mh> hi
[20:33] <redtape-renegade> hi there
[20:33] <Bray90820> now all i need is a terminal command to disable the onscreen keyboard
[20:34] <matzipan> jono: hey, wasnt around anymore. i have sent you an email from matzipan-gmail-com a while ago. did you get the chance to read it?#
[20:34] <awesomess3> Hilarie, my best guess is to boot Ubuntu on Live CD and then `dd /dev/usb1 /dev/sda1`?? I don't know.
[20:35] <tottto-drummond> Bray90820 gsettings set apps.onboard xembed-onboard false
[20:35] <Hilarie> awesomess3, I found it, clonezilla :D
[20:35] <Bray90820> tottto-drummond is that the hole command
[20:35] <Bray90820> you know what i will just try it
[20:36] <tottto-drummond> Bray90820 yep if it doesn t work try gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver embedded-keyboard-enabled
[20:37] <awesomess3> A tip for everyone to swap Caps Lock and Escape keys: setxkbmap -option caps:swapescape
[20:38] <Hilarie> awesomess3, I could use things like that for great evil, thank you
[20:42] <Bray90820> tottto-drummond the first command didn't work and the second command well i'm not using gnome so yea
[20:42] <martianlobster> what was the default desktop for ubuntu 10.10, Maverick meerkat ?
[20:42] <awesomess3> martian, well surely gnome of course.
[20:42] <awesomess3> martianlobster,
[20:42] <martianlobster> when I type ps aux | egrep gnome-shell, nothing shows up
[20:43] <awesomess3> martianlobster, try `ps ax | grep gnome`
[20:44] <martianlobster> awesomess3: countless programs show up with that command
[20:44] <martianlobster> or more precisely, 22 show up
[20:44] <martianlobster> lol
[20:44] <martianlobster> pa aux | egrep ghome | cat -n
[20:45] <awesomess3> martianlobster, I get 17 with 10.04
[20:45] <martianlobster> ok
[20:45] <martianlobster> so that means we are running gnome desktop?
[20:45] <awesomess3> martianlobster, I'm 72% sure
[20:45] <martianlobster> ok thanks
[20:47] <awesomess3> martianlobster, if you go to System in the desktop menu, you can select "About GNOME," which leads me to also think that we're running Gnome.
[20:47] <filipefds> Oi
[20:47] <filipefds> Tem brasileiro aqui?
[20:47] <jrib> !br | filipefds
[20:48] <martianlobster> awesomess3: OK thanks
[20:48] <martianlobster> awesomess3: I am writting an email to a linux support group, I needed to know what I am using LOL
[20:50] <Opiri> hi
[20:50] <Opiri> anyone know about php ?
[20:50] <awesomess3> Opiri, I do.
[20:51] <Opiri> http://pb.larskl.de/3258 can you tell me whats wrong here? the titulo variable appears always the same, but thumb one return a good result, all diferent
[20:52] <Opiri> the while is wrong executed i guess but i dont see how to solve it
[20:54] <awesomess3> Opiri, I would help you but your output depends on a mySQL database that I cannot see, with contents that I do not know. Not only that but I don't know what SQL statements you're executing.
[20:55] <john_rambo> I have installed tor & using it with FF only. Problem is it is constantly sending & receiving data even when FF is closed
[20:55] <Opiri> [awesomess3] everything is good but the implementation of both whiles
[20:55] <PudgePacket> john_rambo, I assume tor has to do that to keep the connection alive?
[20:55] <TK-999> john_rambo: do you quit Vidalia after closing it?
[20:56] <Opiri> for some reason is always get the first line for title
[20:56] <TK-999> If the onion tray icon is present, it's not closed.
[20:56] <peterrooney> john_rambo: isn't the point of tor that there's someone using it who's not you?
[20:56] <awesomess3> Opiri, I would set whether or not the 'mysql_fetch_assoc' returns a valid associated array.
[20:56] <solidoodlesuppor> is there a way for a script to be started as soon as a USB is inserted?
[20:57] <solidoodlesuppor> like stick a script on a usb
[20:57] <tottto-drummond> Bray90820... check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/84050/how-do-i-disable-the-on-screen-keyboard-in-the-unlock-screen
[20:57] <john_rambo> TK-999, Vidalia says tor is not running but I ahve checked & its running & working too.
[20:57] <john_rambo> peterrooney, Please elaborate
[20:57] <solidoodlesuppor> and have that script run when the usb is inserted
[20:58] <TK-999> Try sudo pkill -f vidalia
[20:59] <john_rambo> TK-999, Just did that but nethogs is still showing activity
[21:00] <twist3d> john_rambo, ps aux |grep tor
[21:00] <fightback> solidoodlesuppor: check this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1648939
[21:00] <twist3d> john_rambo, tor is the service that runs the back ground proxy
[21:01] <solidoodlesuppor> fightback:  but this is a server side script
[21:01] <fightback> solidoodlesuppor: Err, I'm terribly sorry, I missunderstood
[21:01] <john_rambo> twist3d, http://pastebin.com/hqXpnxLx
[21:02] <fightback> solidoodlesuppor: Don't have an idea then, sorry again.
[21:02] <solidoodlesuppor> I want to stick my installer usb into any given computer and have the script execute
[21:02] <peterrooney> john_rambo: using tor, your traffic comes out from other people's nodes, and vice versa
[21:02] <twist3d> sudo kill 1193
[21:02] <Guest67617> Hello All
[21:03] <pat__> Hello All.
[21:03] <john_rambo> twist3d, Now it has stopped
[21:04] <twist3d> john_rambo, you need to configure firefox to use your local proxy (127.0.0.1) and port 9050 (Default
[21:04] <Catachan> If I want to convert an old PC to a game server, would it be better to install Ubuntu Server over Ubuntu Desktop?
[21:04] <pat__> Need to resize a XRDP session. Stays at about 800x600.
[21:04] <twist3d> to restart /usr/sbin/tor
[21:04] <peterrooney> solidoodlesuppor: that is outside your control.  Try that on my computer, for example.
[21:05] <john_rambo> twist3d, Already done that & its working too....I have checked .........my ip has changed
[21:06] <twist3d> john_rambo, I might have missed what you are trying to do again, I'm sorry what is your concern?
[21:06] <twist3d> john_rambo, the tor controller will continue to maintain a connection to the proxy network regardless if a browser is tunneling its traffic or not
[21:07] <twist3d> john_rambo, tor opens a tunnel that your browser drives through.  If it isnt driving through it the tunnel remains.
[21:07] <john_rambo> twist3d, nethogs was showing that tor was constaly sending & receiving data even when firefox was closed
[21:07] <john_rambo> Okay
[21:07] <Jordan_U> solidoodlesuppor: You won't find any GNU/Linux system that will automatically run a script from a drive just because you plugged it in. That would be incredibly insecure.
[21:08] <john_rambo> Thanks
[21:08] <twist3d> john_rambo, just remember although it helps anonomize (sp?) your traffic, you are connecting to most likely a foreign proxy server.  I would recommend you have a firewall up and properly configured
[21:08] <solidoodlesuppor> Jordan_U: of course, I just thought that was the case
[21:08] <solidoodlesuppor> doesn't hur to ask
[21:09] <john_rambo> twist3d, I ahve firestarter installed....checked at grc.com all ports are stealthed
[21:10] <twist3d> john_rambo, anything else I might be able to help with?
[21:10] <john_rambo> twist3d, No. Thanks again
[21:17] <geomyidae_> .......... http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[21:17] <geomyidae_> someone's asleep at the whell
[21:17] <geomyidae_> wheel*
[21:18] <geomyidae_> which is also ironic since the fridge announcement points there and links to /every other/ release except the ubuntu beta one.
[21:19] <geomyidae_> seriously, where the heck is the link?
[21:20] <TK-999> geomyidae_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[21:20] <tgm4883> geomyidae_, what link are you looking for
[21:20] <TK-999> Google's your friend ;)
[21:21] <bean> geomyidae_: also keep in mind that everyone in here is a volunteer, not people that can edit the ubuntu site.
[21:30] <Sander^home> Does ubuntu works well on a new mac mini?
[21:31] <kc102> I'm looking to install Ubuntu GNOME Remix but I'm not sure if I should install the amd64 version or the i386.  I'm planning on running this off of a usb drive and it will be on AMD and Intel systems.
[21:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !mac | Sander^home
[21:31] <cute_bettong> im wondering, should i install 12.04 or 12.10 on my laptop
[21:31] <kc102> 12.10
[21:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Sander^home: That page might give you a start
[21:32] <SonikkuAmerica> cute_bettong: Well, a certain number of factors induce that decision.
[21:32] <cute_bettong> i have a newer laptop an i7 it's only about 6 months to a year old
[21:32] <SonikkuAmerica> cute_bettong: Are you installing on a server or need a stable (i.e. production-grade) environment?
[21:33] <cute_bettong> SonikkuAmerica, it's for my newish laptop. an i7 i run dual screens and am wondering if ubuntu 12.10 would be better for my system than 12.04
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> cute_bettong: What do you plan on using it for?
[21:34] <Sander^home> SonikkuAmerica, thanks alot!
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> And do remember 12.04 is an !LTS release.
[21:34] <castis> This an appropriate place to get help with installing the new nvidia drivers?
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Sander^home: yw
[21:36] <Sander^home> SonikkuAmerica, do you recommend using a mac mini? Need a fast and small pc.
[21:36] <TK-999> kc102: If your CPU is 64-bit, install amd64 regardless of you having an Intel or AMD one. Linux calls all 64-bit processors amd64 and 32-bit x86.
[21:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Sander^home: I don't use a Mac, given it's really expensive.
[21:36] <kc102> Ah, kk. Ty. Processors are 64 bit. :)
[21:36] <TK-999> Basically x86_64 = x64 = amd64
[21:37] <kc102> I'd prefer it to say x86 and x64, but that's me. :P
[21:37] <cute_bettong> SonikkuAmerica, my laptop? i plain on using it for what i always use it for, games and home office work
[21:37] <SonikkuAmerica> kc102: However, I would recommend installing the 32-bit version if you have > 3 GB RAM, regardless of CPU type.
[21:37] <twist3d> Sander^home, I am using a mac mini you will need to install refit or something similar to get it installed
[21:37] <kc102> You mean < 3GB?
[21:38] <SonikkuAmerica> cute_bettong: Yeah, you'll probably want 12.10. Do you have an idea of what desktop environment you want?
[21:38] <twist3d> Sander^home, works fine though
[21:38] <TK-999> Less than 3 GB
[21:38] <SonikkuAmerica> cute_bettong: Unity, GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE?
[21:38] <kc102> Yeh, systems are at least 3GB.
[21:38] <SonikkuAmerica> kc102: TK-999 is right, and I meant to say < 3 GB
[21:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Not >
[21:38] <TK-999> But if you have less than 3 GB & a 64-bit processor, you might want to invest into some more memory; it's not that expensive nowadays as far as I know.
[21:38] <cute_bettong> SonikkuAmerica, im a fan of unity, it's awesome!
[21:39] <kc102> I'm doing this so I can get around the stupid admin restrictions at work. Won't lemme update Java to 1.7.
[21:39] <SonikkuAmerica> cute_bettong: Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I recommend GNOME. :)
[21:39] <Sander^home> twist3d, does it work with a normal usb keyboard/mouse?
[21:39] <SonikkuAmerica> cute_bettong: But yeah, for the time being, 12.10 ... unless you want to wait ~1.5 months for 13.04
[21:39] <sayd> I'm thinking about installing on a mac mini too
[21:40] <sayd> whats this refit thing
[21:40] <cute_bettong> SonikkuAmerica, i like gnome as well, but within the last year i've become a big fan of unity
[21:40] <twist3d> Sander^home, yes it does
[21:40] <GentSir> sayd, rEFIt? It's for Macs
[21:40] <SonikkuAmerica> cute_bettong: Anyway, enjoy your Ubuntu experience! Don't hesitate to stop by if you have issues!
[21:41] <SuperLag> Is there a specific channel for installing Ubuntu on Mac?
[21:41] <sayd> ah. bios stuff.. is that mainly for dual booting or can i just create the partition with disk util
[21:41] <SonikkuAmerica> SuperLag: Not that I know of...
[21:41] <SuperLag> also, if you *do* install Ubuntu on your Mac, can you still dual boot with OS X?
[21:41] <GentSir> SuperLag, if you use rEFIt
[21:41] <SuperLag> or is it an all-or-nothing proposition?
[21:41] <cute_bettong> SonikkuAmerica, can you still burn ubuntu to an 80min cd? or is it dvd only now?
[21:42] <SonikkuAmerica> cute_bettong: DVD only (or a USB stick via usb-creator-gtk on Ubuntu or Unetbootin on any OS)
[21:42] <geomyidae_> TK-999: I want the official beta release
[21:42] <TK-999> geomyidae: That's it
[21:43] <geomyidae_> TK-999: And I googled plenty, including, as I mentioned, the official announcement which has an outdated page and no link to the beta release.
[21:43] <SuperLag> so who all here runs Ubuntu on a Mac?
[21:43] <TK-999> What I linked are the Raring Ringtail ISOs
[21:43] <geomyidae_> SuperLag: I do.
[21:43] <geomyidae_> TK-999: I'm aware, I download those every day.
[21:43] <GentSir> SuperLag, tag me in a message if you need help installing/setting up on a mac
[21:43] <SuperLag> geomyidae_: how do you like it? any issues to speak of?
[21:44] <GentSir> SuperLag, laptop or desktop?
[21:44] <SuperLag> GentSir: Is it more than a cut & dry install?
[21:44] <geomyidae_> SuperLag: everything works out of the box on my MBA 2012. 12.10 requires extra stuff to make sure the fans kick in
[21:44] <SuperLag> GentSir: in my case, it would be a 2011 MBP
[21:44] <SonikkuAmerica> geomyidae_: You might poke around in #ubuntu+1 for more about !13.04
[21:44] <SuperLag> GentSir: 2GHz quad i7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD
[21:44] <geomyidae_> SonikkuAmerica: yeah, sorry.
[21:45] <Sander^home> twist3d, what about mic, it says it's not documented.
[21:45] <SonikkuAmerica> geomyidae_: No biggie, people ask about Raring all the time here
[21:45] <twist3d> Sander^home, I have never used the mic, but have seen drivers/compatability for all the other input devices
[21:45] <GentSir> SuperLag, mostly. Can run into issues with your main drive not being flagged as bootable after install, but I've never had that issue with Ubuntu. You'll likely have to use rEFIt if you want a dual boot with OSX. Check out the intel mac ubuntu repo as well, it has little goodies to make it perform better on laptops. I'm currently using a 2008 Macbook with Debian.
[21:46] <clara> salve
[21:46] <geomyidae_> SuperLag: the only special thing I do, (besides the fans in 12.10, just use 13.04) is `synclient PalmDetect=1` to make sure it does palm detection on the touchpad
[21:46] <SuperLag> GentSir: thre's one wag in the #mac
[21:46] <Boston65> Can you scroll the side app bar, or is it limited?
[21:46] <clara> !list
[21:46] <SuperLag> GentSir: thre's one wag in the #mac / #macosx channel who says that running Linux on a Mac will fry the board, because the SMC is custom coded only for OS X
[21:47] <geomyidae_> Um, no.
[21:47] <geomyidae_> That's absurd.
[21:47] <GentSir> SuperLag, I've never had any issues
[21:47] <GentSir> SuperLag, but I do suggest you check out the fan utility in the intel mac repo
[21:47] <twist3d> Sander^home, you will need to disable the digital out via amixer for IEC958 but other than that I have had no issue (Causes red light on audio jack)
[21:48] <GentSir> SuperLag, take a look in this: https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa
[21:48] <SuperLag> GentSir: geomyidae_: I'm guessing my pair of daisy-chained TB displays would be unsupported?
[21:48] <GentSir> SuperLag, and don't bother to try extracting the driver for your iSight camera, just find the file somewhere online
[21:49] <TK-999> What I know is that Thunderbolt hotplugging is not yet supported; the Ethernet adapter works though.
[21:49] <twist3d> Sander^home, the only other issue I had is that I had to play with the Fan settings... ran in high speed all the time
[21:49] <KeyboardNotFound> How to format microsd card ?
[21:50] <TK-999> KeyboardNotFound: lsblk first to identify the card
[21:50] <KeyboardNotFound> TK-999: ok, next ?
[21:50] <TK-999> Then run cfdisk /dev/sdX , where X is the letter your card was given.
[21:50] <TK-999> Double check that you indeed opened the card and not something else.
[21:51] <KeyboardNotFound> Opened disk read-only - you have no permission to write
[21:51] <TK-999> Ah yes -  sudo cfdisk /dev/sdX
[21:51] <KeyboardNotFound> again
[21:52] <KeyboardNotFound> i have opened disk readonly...
[21:53] <bekks> KeyboardNotFound: Check wether it is mounted already.
[21:53] <dbugger> Hello
[21:53] <TK-999> If already mounted (which you can find from lsblk), execute 'umount /your_mountpoint'
[21:53] <IRCLemur> Any ideas why gstreamer0.10 & flac files aren't playing nice?
[21:54] <coolroot> hi is there a way i could use back my ubuntu 12.04? right now i'm using mint 13 maya but can't get good source of a good notes support to read so if possible how can i get ubuntu 12.04? i remember for sure i haven't touch anythin like removing ubuntu 12.04 in my synaptic manager not even typing a command on my terminal so if possible how? then lastly how to remove mint 13 cinnamon & mate!?
[21:54] <TK-999> coolroot: Back up your data and clean install
[21:55] <TK-999> You'll need to choose whether to use 12.04, which is a long-term support release 'till 2017, or 12.10, which is more on the bleeding edge.
[21:55] <coolroot> TK-999, clean install using!? cd? i can't got no cd drive can i use terminal on it? what's the command? i don't need backups tho i'm still learnin nothing important yet on my drive so confident enough to try it out thanx
[21:56] <TK-999> coolroot: Can your computer boot from a USB drive?
[21:57] <coolroot> yup but not possible now cause got no usb stick in here :( the only way is in terminal
[22:00] <dwrh> ubuntu 10.04 is about to go EOL. Is there any hope for my Power Mac G5? I tried to upgrade to 12.04, but it did not go very well. I ended up reinstalling 10.04.
[22:01] <jrib> dwrh: you could try 12.10?  Or try to debug your issues with 12.04
[22:01] <dwrh> Not much support for the powerpc architecture anymore.
[22:02] <dwrh> jrib: It says "invalid elf image." I cannot even get it to boot the live CD.
[22:02] <dwrh> It's just an old computer.
[22:02] <jrib> !ppc
[22:02] <IRCLemur> any attempt to convert or burn flac files results in "general stream error"?
[22:03] <Jordan_U> dwrh: I don't have recent experience with PPC, but Debian likely has better PPC support than Ubuntu.
[22:03] <jrib> dwrh: you're using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads ?
[22:04] <dwrh> Yeah, Debian works well. I would just like to get as much up-to-date software as I can.
[22:05] <dwrh> jrib: No.
[22:05] <TK-999> dwrh: Gentoo?
[22:05] <jrib> dwrh: see how those work
[22:05] <pehlert> Hey folks. Even when I use "update-rc.d -f apache2 remove" to remove the rc.d-symlinks, it somehow recreates them and starts apache again on next boot. How is that possible?
[22:05] <dwrh> daily build page.
[22:05] <dwrh> Okay. I will give them a try.
[22:06] <jrib> pehlert: are you suer?
[22:06] <twist3d> hmm
[22:06] <pehlert> jrib: Sure.. It does actually remove the symlinks, I confirmed that
[22:07] <jrib> pehlert: what ubuntu version?
[22:07] <dwrh> TK-999 I tried it, but I cannot get it to recognize any of my NICs.
[22:08] <pehlert> jrib: 12.04 LTS
[22:09] <jrib> pehlert: you're saying the symlinks get recreated after next boot?
[22:09] <dwrh> jrib: Thanks for the link.
[22:09] <pehlert> jrib: Wait, I suspect something
[22:09] <dwrh> Thank you all for your help.
[22:10] <ryan__> Hello, guys I have a problem?
[22:10] <ryan__> CAN you help, the guys at ##windows ain't responding to me
[22:10] <bekks> ryan__: Then whats your ubuntu related problem?
[22:11] <pehlert> jrib: Sorry, entirely my fault. I use Chef (a server management tool) and it recreates them.. Thanks for the help anyway :-)
[22:11] <ryan__> bekks: Os failaure via U.S.B Boot
[22:12] <bekks> ryan__: Which failure, which OS?
[22:12] <Bray90820> so is there a terminal command to enable the onscreen keyboard and another one to disable it
[22:12] <ryan__> bekks: Windows XP
[22:13] <bekks> ryan__: Then how is that related to Ubuntu?
[22:13] <bekks> ryan__: And, btw, Windows XP does not support USB booting.
[22:13] <ryan__> Zorin OS - GRUB Is stooping me from booting into it
[22:13] <ryan__> and oh
[22:14] <bekks> ryan__: Whatever Zorin OS might be.
[22:14] <ryan__> Linux
[22:15] <coolroot> anyone how can i reinstall ubuntu 12.04 using terminal and getting rid of my linuxmint 13 cinnamon/mate!? i want to use ubuntu 12.04 now help pls? thanx
[22:16] <Jordan_U> ryan__: If you don't have Ubuntu installed, and aren't even trying to install it, then this is the wrong channel. This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[22:16] <mutt> wuttup party people
[22:17] <ryan__> Jordan_U: okay where could i find support
[22:20] <Jordan_U> ryan__: Since it sounds like your problem is with installing Windows, and you haven't had luck with ##windows, http://superuser.com/ might be worth trying. But note that even if you can't get help anywhere else, that doesn't make your question appropriate for this channel.
[22:20] <taranis__> My install periodically crashes
[22:20] <taranis__> any clues on how to trouble shoot this ... there is a complete freeze and no logs are written
[22:20] <taranis__> I have to hard reset
[22:21] <bobb2> what song is this ..driving my crazy trying to find out: thanks! http://www.jetupper.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/epic_bigband.swf
[22:21] <Jordan_U> !ot | bobb2
[22:25] <vamp774> taranis__, Does the screen go completely black?
[22:27] <vamp774> taranis__, I've had a similar issue on 12.04 LTS
[22:28] <taranis__> not blank
[22:28] <taranis__> just frozen
[22:28] <qman__> I upgraded my laptop to 12.04 and it installed this new network manager DNS caching thing, and it doesn't work
[22:28] <taranis__> no mouse, keyaboard or SSH
[22:28] <qman__> how can I disable it?
[22:28] <taranis__> vamp774, I have to hard reset it to get it back
[22:28] <taranis__> vamp774, and then I have some corrupt files.
[22:29] <vamp774> taranis__, Yeah, I've had issues with that.  I don't have a solution but I noticed I had no problems with 12.10.   Are you on the LTS?
[22:29] <taranis__> vamp774, i am on LTS yes
[22:30] <vamp774> taranis__, I feel like I saw it on the list of known bugs.  I have 3 machines and it only occurs on 2 of them.  It puzzles me.
[22:31] <taranis__> vamp774, what kernel does 12.10 run? I found an obscure post in the net saying that the kernel had an odd bug in 12.04 with 3.2.0
[22:31] <TK-999> qman__: it just does not work or impedes normal operations?
[22:31] <TK-999> taranis:__ 3.5.0-25
[22:31] <qman__> TK-999, it simply does not work, on bootup I have no DNS resolution, I must manually overwrite resolv.conf to get it to work
[22:31] <qman__> I honestly don't care if it caches DNS, but it simply does not work
[22:31] <taranis__> TK-999, thanks
[22:32] <taranis__> will ubuntu 12.04 switch to the newer kernels
[22:32] <qman__> I tried commenting out "dns=dnsmasq" in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf but I still get a locally-pointed resolv.conf
[22:32] <vamp774> taranis__, its weird because I run 3.2 on this machine with Debian and I don't have that issue
[22:32] <taranis__> I am a little hesitant to upgrade it manually since it is my work machine
[22:32] <jpds> taranis__: When you install linux-image-generic-lts-quantal.
[22:33] <taranis__> vamp774, I can't be sure ... it was some guy complaining about his servers havin the similar behavior as I was having
[22:33] <wachpwnski> I can't get pulseaudio to detect my hdmi audio. I did aplay -l and it's showing the device.
[22:33] <tgm4883> qman__, http://askubuntu.com/questions/157154/how-do-i-add-changes-to-resolv-conf-without-them-getting-overwritten-on-reboot/157192#157192
[22:33] <TK-999> qman: is this the network-manager package?
[22:33] <qman__> tgm4883, that's not what I need, I need DHCP to work
[22:33] <taranis__> jpds, will that work with 12.04?
[22:33] <jpds> taranis__: yes.
[22:33] <qman__> TK-999, yes, network-manager and network-manager-gnome
[22:34] <qman__> it was a default 11.10 setup, upgraded to 12.04
[22:34] <TK-999> You have both network-manager & network-manager-gnome?
[22:35] <qman__> resolvconf has a /etc/resolvconf/original which contains correct data
[22:35] <qman__> yes
[22:35] <taranis__> vamp774, it is just hard to trouble shoot cause the kernel can't write logs ... as the file system seems to have crashed or something
[22:35] <TK-999> sudo apt-get remove network-manager-gnome && sudo apt-get autoremove then
[22:35] <TK-999> Running more than one network manager can be quite problematic
[22:35] <qman__> I still need the GUI applet
[22:35] <taranis__> vamp774, so it is all really just wild speculation ... I don't have a first clue as to how to go about trouble shooting it since I can't isolate it and the issue is hard to reproduce
[22:36] <qman__> I was under the impression that network-manager was the base package and network-manager-gnome was the GUI applet
[22:36] <TK-999> Might be so, this apt-cache entry is weird
[22:36] <vamp774> taranis__, I hear ya.  I'm always hesitant about upgrading distros too until necessary.  Especially because its a work computer you said.  And theres no guarantee that will solve it.
[22:36] <TK-999> Do you have version 0.9.6?
[22:36] <taranis__> vamp774, might try jpds suggestion and install the newer kernel and see if the issue happens again
[22:36] <qman__> 0.9.4
[22:36] <tgm4883> qman__, if you run 'nm-tool' does it list the correct DNS servers?
[22:37] <qman__> tgm4883, yes
[22:37] <vamp774> taranis__, It bothered me too because I was unsure of how to approach solving it if my system crashes lol.  I don't think trying a newer kernel could hurt.  But then again I'm not sure.  And your computer could be unusable for a bit while updating
[22:37] <tgm4883> qman__, is dnsmasq running?
[22:38] <qman__> tgm4883, no
[22:39] <taranis__> vamp774, its my dev machine so upgrading is a chore and then some so I tend to say put mostly and stay with stable. but freezes can eat a lot of code time as it can destroy files ... thank god for version control
[22:39] <vamp774> taranis__, Yeah, I guess pick your poison.  The problem didn't go away on my machine.  And sometimes it happened really frequently.
[22:40] <vamp774> taranis__, Maybe move your work files to another machine and update.  That's what I would do.
[22:40] <taranis__> vamp774, I found once it happened it would happen in continuesly ... the only way to fix it is to force  a file system scan on boot ... which can be a pain so I make my system auto scan now with every reboot incase it does crash. that seems to have made it a bit more stable.
[22:41] <tongcx> hi guys, some docs in /usr/share/doc are in html or pdf
[22:41] <tongcx> is there a command to open that doc?
[22:41] <tongcx> like "info bison"?
[22:42] <Bray90820> Anyone know how i would disable the onscreen keyboard from the terminal
[22:42] <taranis__> vamp774, I posted a thread on the forums 55 views later and no reply so I suppose it isn't a common problem. Do you have a link to that bug report?
[22:42] <compdoc> tongcx, I think you want:     http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_man.htm
[22:44] <vamp774> taranis__, do you by any chances have an NVIDIA card on that machine?
[22:44] <taranis__> vamp774, intel integrated
[22:44] <Bray90820> Anyone know how i would disable the onscreen keyboard from the terminal?
[22:44] <taranis__> vamp774, here are my stats: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2125287
[22:45] <vamp774> taranis__, Now that I'm thinking about it again ( I run Debian now ) I really feel like it's kernel related.
[22:45] <taranis__> vamp774,  it makes the most sense as they system shouldn't lock up completely unless the kernel has taken a dump
[22:47] <vamp774> taranis__, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel .  Agreed.  Maybe try out 3.4 kernel.
[22:47] <defaultro> hey guys, back in the days, when I want to automatically login to gui, I edit my runlevel to 5. I do it in inittab file. How is it done in ubuntu?
[22:47] <jrib> defaultro: your ubuntu should boot to a gui login window by default
[22:48] <jpds> defaultro: System Settings → Users → Automatic Login.
[22:48] <bekks> !upstart | defaultro
[22:48] <taranis__> vamp774, I got the official 3.5 install from linux-image-generic-lts-quantal
[22:48] <taranis__> vamp774, I'll try that on for size and see how stable things remain
[22:48] <defaultro> thanks
[22:49] <vamp774> taranis__, I'm thinking if updating to a newer kernel wouldn't hurt anything, then its worth the potential result of solving it
[22:50] <taranis__> vamp774, I just didnt' want to go outside the ubuntu tested kernels or LTS kernels I'm happy linux-image-generic-lts-quantal is an option. Will see how that turns out ... I am going to head out for the day ... Thank you very much for taking the time to chat to me.
[22:52] <vamp774> taranis__, no problem.  I hope all goes well
[22:53] <veryhappy> hi guys, would it be a nice idea to split 247.9 GB into one root partition and one home partition or is that too less space after a long time?
[22:53] <TK-999> You'd need about 15-20 gigs for a root partition
[22:53] <iter> one partition only veryhappy unless you have a good reason
[22:53] <veryhappy> ok
[22:54] <veryhappy> then i just leave it as one single partition
[22:54] <veryhappy> ok
[22:54] <veryhappy> thanks guys
[22:54] <veryhappy> you helped me out
[22:54] <veryhappy> take care
[22:55] <Kajover> hi. how can i stop apps e.g. xchat from displaying in the top bar (the enveloppe)?
[22:55] <GentSir> Kajover, why would you want to?
[22:56] <tgm4883> Kajover, for xchat, you would remove xchat-indicator
[22:59] <sam113101> does ubuntu have a multiarch live cd?
[22:59] <TK-999> sam113101:Not that I am aware of
[23:00] <sam113101> why not ;(
[23:00] <TK-999> You can create your own bootable live media for both x86 and amd64 (x86_64) architectures.
[23:00] <sam113101> that'd be a cool thing
[23:00] <sam113101> how?
[23:00] <guigouz> can I run just unity's top bar, without dash home or the window manager ?
[23:00] <TK-999> You'd burn the ISO image to a blank DVD or write it to a USB stick and boot the computer from there.
[23:00] <TK-999> You can try the live system & install if satisfied.
[23:01] <tgm4883> guigouz, um, so you just want the global menu?
[23:01] <guigouz> the notification bar, mainly
[23:03] <ubuntu> Hi.  I screwed up my install.  :(
[23:03] <ubuntu> Wondering if anyone can help
[23:04] <TK-999> UbuntuFail: specifics?
[23:04] <UbuntuFail> TK: Thanks
[23:04] <UbuntuFail> TK: Yes.  I've been having package problems for quite some time
[23:04] <UbuntuFail> TK: Package errors.
[23:04] <TK-999> What version of Ubuntu and which packages?
[23:05] <UbuntuFail> TK: I'm on 10.04 at the moment.  Unfortuately, the package manager asked me for a 12.04 disk
[23:05] <UbuntuFail> TK: And when the package was installed, it messed with a few config files, I think.
[23:05] <Kajover> tgm4883, how would i do that?
[23:05] <TK-999> Which package?
[23:05] <UbuntuFail> TK: My first problem was that grub failed
[23:06] <tgm4883> Kajover, 'apt-get remove xchat-indicator'
[23:06] <UbuntuFail> TK: It was the Steam installer, I think.
[23:06] <Kajover> thank you :)
[23:06] <TK-999> Ugly closed-source thingy, Steam is. As for GRUB failing, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:06] <UbuntuFail> TK: It's more complicated than that, unfortunately.
[23:07] <UbuntuFail> TK: I re-installed GRUB.
[23:07] <guigouz> tgm4883, i just need the indicator bar, actually
[23:07] <TK-999> So you can boot as normal?
[23:07] <UbuntuFail> TK: And Grub still fails to find anything at book, even after I do sudo update-grub, and it thinks it found everything.
[23:07] <UbuntuFail> TK: No, I can't boot as normal.
[23:07] <TK-999> You might want to try the Boot-Repair tool then to see if that remedies
[23:07] <tgm4883> guigouz, hmm, Well there isn't a way to just use the Unity indicator bar and get rid of the dash and launcher bar
[23:07] <UbuntuFail> TK: So I had to boot in manually using: set root = (hd0,1), etc.
[23:08] <tgm4883> guigouz, your best bet is to see if another desktop environment (like XFCE) has the ability to add some of that functionality
[23:08] <tgm4883> guigouz, you might try 'unity-tweak-tool', It has the ability to do some tweaks to unity, but IDK if it does what you want
[23:09] <Kajover> tgm4883, it didnt work... enveloppe is still in the bar
[23:09] <guigouz> tgm4883, i'll try gnome, I'm using enlightenment
[23:09] <guigouz> thanks
[23:10] <tgm4883> Kajover, well yea, that isn't what I said. You said how do you remove it for xchat, and I told you
[23:10] <tgm4883> Kajover, I don't know if  you can remove the messaging indicator
[23:11] <trism> Kajover: sudo apt-get purge indicator-messages; then log out/back in
[23:11] <Kajover> xchat is still there ;)
[23:11] <Kajover> ok
[23:11] <Kajover> btw is there a hotkey for the terminal?
[23:11] <Kajover> superkey + t e.g.?
[23:12] <trism> Kajover: ctrl+alt+t
[23:12] <Kajover> thanks
[23:12] <tgm4883> Kajover, you'll probably have to kill all xchat processes and restart it
[23:12] <tgm4883> IIRC, I had to logout and back in for it to completely go away
[23:13] <GentSir> Any of you play Halo 4 on XBL? I've got a Double XP code: FFWCX CN3HH
[23:13] <vamp774> UbuntuFail, If it is a fresh install maybe just wipe and restart
[23:13] <Kajover> tgm4883, thanks envelope is gone.
[23:14] <awesomess3> Someone buy me a laptop and install Ubuntu 12.10 and WoW and send to me plz
[23:14] <bekks> awesomess3: Send the money first ;)
[23:15] <tgm4883> trism, <Kajover> tgm4883, thanks envelope is gone.
[23:15] <tgm4883> since that was more directed at you I think
[23:15] <Kajover> ah yes.. cheers :)
[23:16] <UbuntuFail> vamp: Thank you.  Im trying boot-repair
[23:16] <UbuntuFail> Will see how that goes
[23:17] <vamp774> UbuntuFail, Yeah I mean if you don't have any data because you can't boot in just start over.  It installs grub near the end of the install
[23:19] <vamp774> UbuntuFail, You tried to install steam then couldn't boot?  Did you upgrade gfx drivers or anything?
[23:20] <UbuntuFail> vamp: No, it's an old system with lots of data on it
[23:20] <UbuntuFail> vamp: Installed 'Steam'
[23:22] <UbuntuFail> vamp: I tried this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:22] <UbuntuFail> vamp: But the repositories use 32-bit versions
[23:22] <UbuntuFail> vamp: I'm on 64-bit, and it wont work
[23:22] <UbuntuFail> Do you know if there are repositories for the 64-bit version?
[23:23] <Jordan_U> UbuntuFail: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[23:23] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | UbuntuFail
[23:23] <tgm4883> !grub
[23:24] <Aaron1> Hello
[23:24] <SolarisBoy> Aaron1: you have my name =)
[23:25] <SolarisBoy> im going to have to update my hilights! ohmyjeezois
[23:26] <UbuntuFail> Jordan_U: Thank you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5615151/
[23:26] <Aaron1> Euh, sorry not that experienced concerning IRC channels SolarisBoy, hope i did not give you troubble?!
[23:27] <UbuntuFail> Could someone take alook at my boot info data, please?
[23:27] <SolarisBoy> Aaron1: no worries man! =)
[23:27] <Aaron1> I came here because my samba server is giving me a headace and my search on the web came up empty.
[23:28] <SolarisBoy> Aaron1: whats up with your samba server?
[23:28] <Jordan_U> UbuntuFail: What happens when you try to boot?
[23:28] <SolarisBoy> Aaron1: samba on ubuntu i presume? (just to be sure your in the right place)
[23:28] <Aaron1> Well copying from my mac to my samba server is fine it's the opposite direction that is troublesome.
[23:29] <UbuntuFail> Jordan_U: Grub doesn't produce a menu.  I just get the grub command line (even after I had already done update-grub).  I can try to boot in to linux manually using 'set root=(hd0,1)' etc.
[23:29] <UbuntuFail> Jordan_u: But then I get another error message - let me find it
[23:29] <UbuntuFail> Jordan_U: I remember it said it couldnt find the /etc/fstab file
[23:29] <Jordan_U> UbuntuFail: Is it a "grub> " prompt or a "rescue> " prompt?
[23:30] <dr_willis> Aaron1:  so its what the mac thats  using  to do its windows shares thats the issue then?
[23:30] <SolarisBoy> Aaron1: so the Mac is a samba client? and you can copy files from the client to server (mac->samba share hosted from ubuntu)
[23:30] <Aaron1> SolarisBoy: Yes a headless Ubuntu server v12.10
[23:30] <dr_willis> Hmm. cant Macs/Os-X do SSh and NFS?
[23:30] <SolarisBoy> better be able to with that spiffy unix kernel under it
[23:30] <GentSir> dr_willis, IIRC ssh-client is included in OSX
[23:31] <Aaron1> NFS i tried, problem is i have a lot of windows clients.
[23:31] <UbuntuFail> Jordan_U: Hmm..  Pretty sure it was a grub> prompt.
[23:31] <GentSir> But sometimes not sshserver
[23:31] <UbuntuFail> Jordan: Is there a way I can reconstruct an /etc/fstab file?
[23:31] <SolarisBoy> Aaron1: but can you clarify the issue you want to copy files from the server to client?
[23:31] <dr_willis> aaron1 so  do they access the linux server ok? but not the mac swerver?
[23:31] <Aaron1> no
[23:31] <Aaron1> Oke let me try to explain this
[23:31] <dr_willis> ''please be a bit more verbose then just 'no'   ;)
[23:31] <SolarisBoy> ok
[23:32] <Jordan_U> UbuntuFail: Can you be at the grub shell and on IRC at the same time?
[23:32] <Aaron1> mac->ubuntu samba server = fine
[23:32] <SolarisBoy> ok the mac can mount a samba share fine -
[23:32] <Aaron1> Ubuntu samba server -> mac (initiated from mac client) = painfully slow
[23:32] <UbuntuFail> Jordan_U: Yes, I can use my laptop for IRC.  But it's not just grub that's the problem, because I get errors after I boot up linux
[23:33] <UbuntuFail> Jordan_U: So I think my system files are corrupt.
[23:33] <SolarisBoy> Aaron1: how are you testing the communication?
[23:33] <thiefy> does anyone know how to - in libre office writer, make it so that when it knows what word you are in the middle typing - the suggestion it gives you - that you can just hit the spacebar to complete that word?
[23:33] <thiefy> like on android... heh.
[23:33] <SolarisBoy> Aaron1: are you using names or IP's in your configs?
[23:33] <histo> thiefy: tab completion?
[23:33] <thiefy> nice how they suggest a word, but how can i just use that suggestion?
[23:33] <holstein> Aaron1: i would try moving something via ssh and test the connection with samba out of the equation
[23:33] <thiefy> histo, doesn't work... it just inserts a tab.
[23:33] <SolarisBoy> i agree with holstein
[23:34] <Aaron1> SolarisBoy: the fact that i have full 100mbit access to the campus network and all that jazz
[23:34] <histo> thiefy: I know but that's what it's called. Just trying to help you explain.
[23:34] <SolarisBoy> i wuold try to seperate a general network issue from a samba issue -
[23:34] <Aaron1> and im using ip's
[23:34] <Aaron1> nothing needs to be resolved
[23:34] <Jordan_U> UbuntuFail: Try booting from a LiveUSB and running fsck.
[23:34] <UbuntuFail> oh yeah.. forgot about fsck
[23:34] <SolarisBoy> Aaron1: ok thanks for that
[23:34] <UbuntuFail> OK, good point ... that's another thing to try.
[23:34] <UbuntuFail> Thanks.
[23:34] <vamp774> UbuntuFail, sorry I was afk.
[23:35] <UbuntuFail> vamp: np
[23:35] <vamp774> Did you fix it?
[23:35] <UbuntuFail> vamp: No, not yet - about to do fsck
[23:35] <Jordan_U> UbuntuFail: If fsck finds no errors, try "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg" from the grub prompt. If it gives an error like "out of disk" then you have a buggy BIOS.
[23:35] <UbuntuFail> Jordan: I am in a live CD - should I do 'sudo fsck /dev/sda'?
[23:36] <SolarisBoy> Aaron1: and what exactly is slow in this back and forth - so you mount a share to the MAC - it mounts fine - are you talking about the response from the samba server on your actions from the mac client?
[23:36] <Jordan_U> UbuntuFail: sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[23:36] <Aaron1> its an open Samba share with a 0777 file mask, just for convieninient file sharing accross te network.
[23:36] <SolarisBoy> Aaron1: im trying to understanding what communication other than Samba Protocol data is going back and forth that your seeing latency in
[23:36] <UbuntuFail> Jordan: Clean
[23:36] <holstein> Aaron1: and the file transfer is slow via samba? how about ssh?
[23:36] <matthew20154> Hello
[23:37] <UbuntuFail> Jordan: Sorry, it finished immediately and said File System Clean
[23:37] <Aaron1> wel my finder hangs itself, while mounting is not an issue
[23:37] <SolarisBoy> ahh so your file browser hangs when navigating the share? Aaron1 ?
[23:37] <holstein> Aaron1: what i would do is, remove variables
[23:37] <UbuntuFail> brasero doesn't seem to work  :(  arg
[23:37] <UbuntuFail> input/output error
[23:37] <UbuntuFail> Can't burn boot-repair
[23:38] <Jordan_U> UbuntuFail: sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1
[23:38] <Aaron1> that too SolarisBoy somehow i expect the problem is on the mac's end but i have no idea where
[23:38] <UbuntuFail> OK.. checking now
[23:38] <Aaron1> and i have no experince diagnosing such a prpblem
[23:38] <SolarisBoy> Aaron1: you would get better mileage by eliminating samba like holstein mentioned and checking another protocol for some general latency
[23:39] <Aaron1> SolarisBoy: i agree but my boss wont let me, that's kind of the issie ;)
[23:39] <Aaron1> issue
[23:40] <holstein> Aaron1: wont let you properly troubleshoot? then just reinstall samba, and check some logs i supppose.. but you'll waste time there assuming its a samba issue
[23:40] <SolarisBoy> Aaron1: your boss won't let you troubleshoot or he won't let you deploy a different service? (im not saying the latter) im saying to use another protocol to test - like telnet
[23:40] <SolarisBoy> agree with holstein again -
[23:41] <SolarisBoy> ill bbl also i need to evacuate my office before any more crizap flies my way - brb
[23:41] <Anteros> Aaron1: I'm coming in during the middle of the convo. You might've checked these already: 1) th SO_RECVBUF settings, 2) ping latency, 3) hard disk spinup time
[23:41] <Aaron1> ow the communication with the server is fine
[23:41] <holstein> Aaron1: how did you determine that?
[23:42] <Anteros> Aaron1: OK. that takes care of item 2
[23:42] <Aaron1> it has full gigabit throughput and all that jazz with all the other clients on the same switch
[23:42] <Anteros> Aaron1: is this isolated to one client ?
[23:42] <Aaron1> just my mac to be precise
[23:42] <Aaron1> rest is windows
[23:42] <holstein> Aaron1: and how is the file transfer to other clients?
[23:43] <Aaron1> holstein: perfect, no probs there
[23:43] <holstein> Aaron1: so, its just the mac then?
[23:43] <holstein> Aaron1: id say, you have a client side issue on the mac then
[23:43] <Aaron1> holstein: yeah perhaps wrong channel :/
[23:43] <Anteros> Aaron1: check your macs settings, is it loading thumbnails for every image or calculating the remote drive size ?
[23:44] <Aaron1> Anteros: that first option you spoke about, what does it do?
[23:44] <Anteros> Aaron1: it specifies the buffer size for receiving packets
[23:44] <Aaron1> oke i understand that
[23:45] <Anteros> Aaron1: the smb.conf file will have more info for you. It is known to cause some throughput issues
[23:45] <UbuntuFail> Jordan_U: is it normal to take this long?
[23:45] <holstein> not isolated to the mac clients though, correct Anteros ?
[23:46] <Aaron1> in a more general therm of speaking, are there best practices documents about this with config settigs that should be conccidered?
[23:46] <Anteros> holstein: no specific mention of the OSX plaform, its more of a server side configuration
[23:46] <shojo> I have a question: If i keep a Windows partition and install in the rest of the space ubuntu, will i be able to access the windows partition afterwards from Ubuntu?
[23:47] <thiefy> yes.
[23:47] <Anteros> Aaron1: yes, it is mostly documented in the smb.conf file and the man pages
[23:47] <holstein> Aaron1: if everything is indeed fine from the other cliends to samba, then its client side on the mac
[23:47] <holstein> clients*
[23:47] <thiefy> go nuts shojo - it's  no problem.
[23:47] <Anteros> Aaron1: "Best practice" is a slippery industry term. Do what is "best" for your deployment
[23:47] <shojo> thiefy: is that for me?
[23:47] <thiefy> yes again.
[23:48] <shojo> thanks
[23:48] <Aaron1> te problem is the reading from the server from my mac, the writing is fine, that's what is giving me trouble differentiating this problem
[23:48] <thiefy> Merry Christmas!
[23:48] <Aaron1> te problem is the reading from the server from my mac, the writing is fine, that's what is giving me trouble differentiating this problem
[23:49] <UbuntuFail> Jordan_u: No errors
[23:49] <miu2n> does anyone know anything about ubuntu cloud server?
[23:50] <awesomess3> What is up with the clouds these days? Why have clouds? It sounds like something built that ultimately puts everything on the internet.
[23:50] <miu2n> depends on what kind of cloud
[23:50] <miu2n> i use private cloud
[23:50] <Aaron1> Anteros: owgod okay problem is i dont have the time to get to know all the knooks an crannies of a samba sysmtem, so how to proceed then?
[23:50] <sirriffsalot> Hey, what is the difference betwen the "Time Bwetween Updates" and "Set CPU Speed" function with cpufreq utility programs?
[23:50] <Anteros> awesomess3: yes, that is what they do.
[23:51] <miu2n> if anyone knows anything about it some help would be greatly appreciated
[23:51] <holstein> Aaron1: i would try a different client from the mac
[23:51] <holstein> miu2n: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-cloud
[23:52] <miu2n> i have read that, my problem is the nodes are not getting started up when they are called
[23:52] <awesomess3> Anteros, miu2n but if we put everything in the cloud, wouldn't we also be putting things in the cloud that are unnecessary and therefore a waste of internet activity?
[23:52] <Anteros> Aaron1: Filesharing systems are not something that you can fire and forget. There are potential security issues and seldom performance issues that can arise
[23:52] <holstein> miu2n: where are you getting the servers? at a place that provides support?
[23:52] <orp> hi there
[23:52] <awesomess3> orp, hey
[23:53] <orp> i am loking for an help
[23:53] <miu2n> no the servers are on a vmware ESXi Server that i am hosting
[23:53] <awesomess3> orp, aren't we all?
[23:53] <orp> yes
[23:53] <Anteros> Aaron1: that being said it is very difficult to know *every* nook&cranny of samba I would say that learning how to troubleshoot this problem will be very valuable in the future
[23:53] <orp> my sound don't mute when i plug my headphones
[23:53] <Jordan_U> UbuntuFail: Try the "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg" test.
[23:54] <dr_willis> the books on samba in  the repos give some good samba troubleshooting info.. they are a bit on the  old side however
[23:54] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[23:54] <Aaron1> Anteros: i think you are right
[23:54] <orp> any one knows a fix for this
[23:54] <orp> ?
[23:54] <holstein> orp: i would just deal with that issue.. alsa is where i would suggest filing the bug
[23:54] <miu2n> holstein: no the servers are on a vmware ESXi Server that i am hosting
[23:54] <holstein> miu2n: i would test differently, to make sure its not just how you are hosting them
[23:54] <dr_willis> orp common issue seen variants of the problem also.. i bet theres several hits on the subject on the askubuntu.com site
[23:54] <Anteros> awesomess3: we are not putting "everything" in the cloud. Not yet anyway. It aims to solve specific problems at this point. Problems of scalability mostly
[23:55] <veryhappy> hi guys have a new question, i chosen the landscape client in the upgrades mask on the linux install how can i set this setting back to "don't use landscape - but install security updates on my own"?
[23:55] <miu2n> holstein: differently how? physical boxes, kvm,...
[23:56] <holstein> miu2n: if it were me, i would just start doing it differently, to make sure its not my setup that is the issue
[23:56] <miu2n> holstein: alright thanks!
[23:56] <UbuntuFail> bbias
[23:57] <scott_z> when you boot into ubuntu, how do you get it to display all the scrolling info instead of the purple screen?
[23:58] <orp> before was alsaconf and the config was easy now is an hell
[23:58] <dr_willis> scott_z:  use the  'noquiet nosplash verbose' options instead of  'quiet splash' in /etc/default/grub
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