[03:24] <urlwolf> I shouldn't remove pulseaudio from my system (12.10), right?
[03:24] <urlwolf> It's fighting for control with jack
[03:24] <urlwolf> life is miserable
[03:27] <urlwolf> this is old, but maybe a solution? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html
[07:12] <yefim323> hey guys
[07:13] <yefim323> how popular is this distro?
[07:23] <yefim323> ...?
[07:42] <dreamer_> hello
[07:44] <dreamer_> is anybody up there ?
[07:46] <dreamer_> yohooooo
[07:55] <dreamer_> ???
[07:59] <dreamer_> لعغس
[07:59] <dreamer_> guys
[08:28] <dreamer_> hi
[08:39] <dreamer_> so noone can reply me ?
[08:41] <antto> you haven't asked an actual question..
[08:42] <dreamer_> so can i ask now ?
[08:42] <antto> you should have asked right away
[08:44] <dreamer_> ok ok i face aproblem with the software centre and the update manager . i think they are the same , the message is : software index is broken and i guess adobe plugin caused it
[08:48] <dreamer_> so !
[08:59] <dreamer_> can anyone help me with the problem ( software index is broken )
[09:14] <dreamer_> thank you guys ^^ the answer is sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:27] <tjingboem> i just installed US. Where can i find the clock?
[10:28] <tjingboem> found it
[10:28] <smartboyhw> tjingboem, the clock is at the top-right corner:p
[10:28] <smartboyhw> lol
[10:28] <tjingboem> no its not
[10:29] <smartboyhw> tjingboem, well you click on it...
[10:29] <smartboyhw> That's a calendar
[10:29] <smartboyhw> But the clock is right there
[10:30] <tjingboem> now i have 3 clocks
[10:31] <tjingboem> i can add a clock, but how can i remove it?
[10:31] <tjingboem> i have 4 clocks now :)
[10:33] <tjingboem> never mind
[10:33] <tjingboem> got it
[10:34] <tjingboem> i have one clock now
[10:34] <tjingboem> that late already?
[13:06] <tjingboem> i want to have a 7.1 soundcard. what card is good for working with US?
[13:10] <tjingboem> do all modern cards work with linux?
[18:09] <sirriffsalot_> Hey! Startup Disk Creator isn't detecting my usb-stick..?
[18:10] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: is anything?
[18:10] <sirriffsalot_> holstein: huh?
[18:10] <Sun`Star> does it work for other apps
[18:10] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: is anything "detecting" your usb stick?
[18:10] <Sun`Star> or the system
[18:10] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: *anything*
[18:10] <sirriffsalot_> Well.. it's clearly displayed in my file manager.. and on the desktop, and unetbootin
[18:11] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: i would just use unetbootin
[18:11] <sirriffsalot_> Don't trust it.. besides, startup disk creator is default in ubuntu, I roll with that.. :)
[18:11] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: i roll with unet.. and i use the iso's i download
[18:11] <holstein> if you want to troubleshoot the ubuntu one, try #ubuntu ..we dont change it at all
[18:12] <sirriffsalot_> holstein: using ubuntustudio though
[18:12] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: we dont change it.. its the same as the one in main ubuntu..
[18:12] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: i would, and do use unetbootin.. since it works.. and is supported in the same repos as the OS and the other tool that is not working for you
[18:13] <sirriffsalot_> holstein: humm.. reason I'm suspicious is why gparted etc detects it, but not disk creator
[18:14] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: could be anything.. if disk creator is literally the only thing that is not "detecting" it, then its likely an issue with the disk creator. as a work around, i would use unetbootin, since it works.. or ask for help with the disk creator in #ubuntu or the maintainer
[18:14] <sirriffsalot_> I guess.. Thanks :)
[18:15] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: you can do the normal troubleshooting steps. try starting from the command link and look for error output.. try as another user to eliminate issues with your user config.. reinstall the disk creator
[18:15] <holstein> command line*
[18:17] <sirriffsalot_> Another reason it's weird is that the options are doubled in unetbootin.. install ubuntu studio check disc for defects etc is listed twice!
[18:19] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: its just making its own grub.. if the options are there, and they work.. i would go for it.. if not, try one of the above 3 options i sisted.. or /join #ubuntu
[18:19] <holstein> i listed*
[18:19] <sirriffsalot_> Hehe, alright
[18:30] <wip> zequence: found a way to automagically connect pulse to jack: pacmd load-module module-jack-source channels=2; pacmd load-module module-jack-sink channels=2;
[18:30] <wip> in qjackctl settings autostart script
[18:36] <holstein> wip: it should just work now.. by default
[18:45] <zequence> Me and wip were talking about this earlier. Told him there was a manual method too
[18:45] <zequence> That's basically what the pulseaudio-module-jack does, when you start jack
[18:45] <zequence> wip: The second part of the puzzle is to have PA use the jack connections
[18:45] <holstein> O I C
[18:46] <zequence> pactl would do that
[18:46] <zequence> Or I think one can just add a config in ~/.pulse
[18:46] <zequence> The system wide config files are in /etc/pulse/
[18:55] <wip> holstein: now meaning 13.04?
[18:55] <holstein> wip: since ive been testing in 12.04.. its actually one of the first things i disable
[18:56] <holstein> wip: but, i didnt realize you guys were discussing something else
[18:56] <zequence> The installable module in deed creates the sink and source automatically, when you start jackdbus
[18:56] <zequence> But, not for jackd
[18:57] <zequence> Also, not stereo, but whatever the amount of channels you have for your device in jack
[18:57] <zequence> This has changed in 13.04. Now, the module creates a stereo connection by default, and you can change it if you want
[23:33] <airlynx> I'm stuck, installing 13.04 and it's stuck at Removing conflicting operating system files and hasn't moved in over an hour :(
[23:34] <holstein> airlynx: try 12.04 or 12.10.. 13.04 support is in #ubuntu+1 ..if it were me, i would try a different iso
[23:34] <airlynx> holstein, thanks, I was just trying to remember the 13.04 support room
[23:35] <holstein> i dont install upgrades during installation
[23:35] <airlynx> I was having serious Jack trouble and zequence mentioned that it was a known bug that was already fixed in 13.04, so I jumped the gun
[23:36] <holstein> sure.. and thats a great idea.. just dont expect it to work since its not out yet
[23:36] <airlynx> I'm gonna try my luck at ubuntu+1, probably also a known bug
[23:37] <holstein> airlynx: not if its an issue with the installer.. that'll just be breakage.. i would just get the last iso and upgrade
[23:41] <zequence> airlynx: How are you installing?
[23:41] <zequence> airlynx: We recommend you do a fresh install
[23:41] <zequence> You should at least wipe out the system partition. Make sure to back up any important files first
[23:41] <airlynx> zequence: doing fresh install over the old ext4 partition (formatting it) with a DVD
[23:41] <sirriffsalot> Hey, what is the difference betwen the "Time Bwetween Updates" and "Set CPU Speed" function with cpufreq utility programs?
[23:42] <sirriffsalot> I can't find anything on the former..
[23:42] <zequence> airlynx: So, at what poing in the installtion did you get that error?
[23:43] <zequence> never mind
[23:43] <airlynx> zequence: it just started, "Removing conflicting operating system files" is the first thing it started doing after it asks for name and info
[23:43] <zequence> airlynx: The first thing that comes to mind is if you in fact did format the partition you're installing to
[23:44] <zequence> Considering there are previous conflicting system files
[23:44] <zequence> airlynx: Which choice did you make in partitioning? did you do it manually?
[23:44] <airlynx> zequence: I was concerned about that too, but I went under "Something Else" option and selected my ext4 partition and checked the box to format it
[23:45] <zequence> weird
[23:46] <zequence> The tests so far have been good.
[23:46] <zequence> airlynx: Are you using the Beta 1? It just came out todayu
[23:46] <zequence> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/13.04/beta-1/
[23:46] <airlynx> well if it did do anything my previous installation shouldn't boot if I remove the disk and force shutdown.  I have dual boot with Windows 8 and some strange things happened with my boot sector but boot-repair fixed it fairly quickly
[23:47] <airlynx> zequence: don't remember immediately if it is beta-1, but I did download it today but from the link you sent me yesterday
[23:47] <zequence> As long as the install isn't completed, there will be no change in the boot sector
[23:47] <zequence> The link yesterday was not beta 1, all though, it should have worked fine too
[23:48] <zequence> airlynx: Could you please try beta 1, and take care during partitioning when you make your choices. then, if you have an error again, please report it to us
[23:49] <zequence> I haven't touched one of those Secure Boot machines yet, so I'm happily oblivious to those problems
[23:49] <airlynx> basically when I start the install process it doesn't detect Windows 8 on this computer, but that happened with 12.10 also
[23:49] <airlynx> and I've turned secure boot off btw
[23:50] <zequence> I have UEFI on this machine, but no secure boot. Have never tried the UEFI though. Never turn the machine off really, so no point
[23:50] <airlynx> That's what I get for buying another Toshiba
[23:52] <zequence> I have both BIOS and UEFI, to be clear
[23:52] <airlynx> is there a way to launch a terminal in the installer at this point?
[23:52] <airlynx> I'm in Firefox right now
[23:52] <zequence> I gues you can just open one from the menu
[23:53] <zequence> ctrl+alt+F1 works too
[23:53] <zequence> F7 is the X session
[23:53] <airlynx> ah, I forgot about that, thanks
[23:54] <airlynx> I can type / in firefox and use it as an impromptu file browser but I couldn't get a terminal
[23:55] <airlynx> can't mount my hdd anyhow, likely locked by the installer
[23:55] <airlynx> oh well, gonna force shutdown and try it again hoping for the best, thanks again zequence
[23:56] <zequence> airlynx: good luck