[00:43] <edinny> xubuntu 12.04.2 amd64 desk does not seem to fit on a 700 MB CD
[00:43] <edinny> did I miss something?
[00:44] <edinny> Do I burn it to a DVD?
[00:45] <DMCA> yeah your gonna have to use USB
[00:45] <edinny> Will a DVD work? I don't have a spare USB
[00:46] <edinny> Any way to put the ISO on an NTFS partition and run a smaller CD to start it?
[00:46] <GridCube> maybe
[00:46] <DMCA> yeah use the same apps u would use for making a bootable USB but point to that
[00:47] <edinny> I don't have a spare thumb drive. Will a DVD work?
[00:47] <GridCube> yes
[00:47] <DMCA> usually not as its the wrong format. but you can use a hard drive partition
[00:48] <edinny> I need an entire partition?
[00:48] <GridCube> what?
[00:48] <DMCA> i guess it depends on the burning app. mine spits the DVD out teling me to replace with a CD
[00:48] <GridCube> DMCA, what? why would you say that?
[00:48] <David-A> edinny: are you sure about not fitting 700MB ?
[00:48] <edinny> that is what Baserio says
[00:48] <GridCube> you can burn it to a dvd edinny
[00:50] <edinny> Brasero does not like burning it to a dvd. Do I have to use CDrecord from the command line?
[00:50] <Dr_Fets> how large is the file?
[00:50] <edinny> oops...does cdrecord even exist anymore?
[00:50] <GridCube> edinny, it should work from brasero
[00:50] <edinny> 741.3mb
[00:50] <DMCA> if you dont have a USB and your burning app wont let u burn to DVD, you can make a 3GB partition and "burn" the ISO to that
[00:50] <Dr_Fets> called wodim now
[00:50] <GridCube> i know i've done it
[00:50] <David-A> edinny: ok, I see now, it says 707MB, it is not likely to fit a normal 700MB cd
[00:50] <GridCube> xfburn too
[00:51] <Dr_Fets> it's a cd image, it should fit
[00:51] <GridCube> edinny, what iso you want to use?
[00:51] <DMCA> well it doesnt
[00:51] <edinny> 	xubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:51] <DMCA> they havent been good about making the ISO conform to the 700MB max size
[00:52] <David-A> edinny: (the xubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso was 697MB, so it is growing on all of us)
[00:53] <edinny> Downloading "alternate", but I was hoping to make a live CD to carry around, too
[00:53] <Dr_Fets> use wodim -overburn
[00:53] <Dr_Fets> it should fit then
[00:53] <edinny> can I find 12.04.1?
[00:53] <edinny> Who cares about updates
[00:54] <David-A> Dr_Fets: are you sure -overburn will help if the max capacity of the cd is e.g. 703MB ?
[00:54] <Dr_Fets> there should be 10 more at least
[00:54] <Dr_Fets> I would try it
[00:55] <Dr_Fets> sudo wodim -overburn dev=/dev/xxx image.iso
[00:55] <Dr_Fets> every cd has a bit spare space
[00:56] <DMCA> uh you cant count on that. not all CDs have more than an extra 2MB
[00:56] <DMCA> and you can damage the drive if it doesnt
[00:56] <Dr_Fets> never heard of that
[00:56] <Dr_Fets> anyway, can you just use a dvd?
[00:57] <DMCA> braserio spits it out telling you to use a CD
[00:57] <edinny> it says to replace the dvd with a supported cd or dvd
[00:57] <Dr_Fets> try xfburn
[00:57] <Dr_Fets> or just use command line wodim
[00:58] <David-A> Dr_Fets: I have had cds where the limit seemed to be around 703-704MiB (binary mega) which would be around 738MB (decimal mega)
[00:59] <Dr_Fets> I wonder why they release such a big image
[00:59] <Dr_Fets> and name it cd image
[00:59] <DMCA> cuz for some reason ppl are against actually burning to a CD
[00:59] <Dr_Fets> I burned 730mb once on a 700mb cd
[01:00] <David-A> Dr_Fets: good question. a bug fix that takes several megabytes between .1 and .2
[01:00] <David-A> ?
[01:00] <edinny> DVD seems to be writing with woburn
[01:00] <edinny> nope, woburn will not do it with a dvd
[01:00] <Dr_Fets> hmmm
[01:00] <Dr_Fets> maybe something is wrong with your dvd?
[01:01] <Dr_Fets> try to format it
[01:05] <edinny> wodim seems to write with overburn...
[01:07] <Dr_Fets> I hope it works
[01:08] <edinny> wodim: Make sure that you are root, enable DMA and check your HW/OS set up.
[01:08] <edinny> oh well
[01:10] <Dr_Fets> I don't know why they replaced cdrecord with wodim
[01:10] <Dr_Fets> cdrecord has more features
[02:02] <Pizza90> hi all, does anyone how i can lock or remove the anthy bar that floats for the desktop while i use it?(anthy is used to type in japanese) thanks
[02:34] <GridCube> Pizza90, could you share a screenshot?
[02:34] <Pizza90> GridCube: i gave up for tonight
[02:35] <GridCube> ok :)
[02:35] <Pizza90> GridCube: basically anthy looks buggy on xubuntu 12.04 i can turn it off and on once then i see like a keyboard icon transparent (not in the dock)
[02:35] <Pizza90> and it's unusable <.<
[05:09] <xubuntu273> To install xubuntu, can I use OSX's Disk Utility to burn the iso to a 700MB CD?
[08:14] <Wizard> Good morning.
[11:41] <gmg85> hi guys...is there  a program similar to archbey that i can install on xubuntu/ubuntu?
[11:41] <bazhang> what is archbey
[11:44] <gmg85> on archbang/archlinux whenever you open a terminal archbey prints out the archlinux logo in ascii art along with some other useful info such as kernel version etc etc
[11:46] <baizon> gmg85: i recommend to look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/byobu.html
[11:46] <baizon> or you can write your own script
[13:06] <Wizard> gmg85: Why won't you just install archbey on Xubuntu? :)
[13:29] <gmg85> Wizard, let me try that....though it would be nice if archbey will print the xubuntu logo
[13:29] <gmg85> will it?
[13:29] <Wizard> I doubt.
[13:29] <Wizard> :D
[13:29] <knome> unless you modify the app/a certain file, it most probably won't
[13:47] <Raucherzimmer> hi all
[13:47] <Wizard> Hi Raucherzimmer.
[13:57] <VinceThePrince> mmm where are params defined? In the model? @user.personal_info  = params["personal_info"]
[13:58] <knome> VinceThePrince?
[13:58] <VinceThePrince> knome, yes
[13:59] <knome> could you elaborate on the context - what are you trying to do?
[13:59] <VinceThePrince> knome,  I think I found it I need to add an extra field to the model personal_ info :)
[14:00] <VinceThePrince> knome, so I can fill it up to transfer data from the view to the controller
[14:00] <knome> i still don't know what you are talking about
[14:00] <Raucherzimmer> ^
[14:00] <Raucherzimmer> hehe
[14:00] <Raucherzimmer> looks like ruby^
[14:00] <knome> yes... this is not the ruby support channel.
[14:01] <Raucherzimmer> ^^
[14:01] <Wizard> :D
[14:01] <VinceThePrince> ooh lol
[14:01] <VinceThePrince> wrong channel
[14:01] <VinceThePrince> FML Right
[14:08] <userUbu0804> I cannot run Xubuntu from my bootable USB, it gets stuck on that menu.
[14:10] <userUbu0804> Anyone? Advise?
[14:10] <knome> !patience | userUbu0804
[14:15] <userUbu0804> patience word is not in my dictionary
[14:15] <userUbu0804> thank you knome,
[15:17] <GermainZ> Is there a way to find out why the system hung?
[15:18] <GermainZ> I'm pretty certain it's the GPU (screen glitched weirdly and everything hung), but would like to make sure..
[15:20] <Wizard> GermainZ: Check logs.
[15:21] <Xrman> can't seem to run matlab 2012 version
[15:21] <Xrman> shows that jre is in some folder
[15:23] <GermainZ> Well Xorg didn't crash
[15:23] <GermainZ> Which logs should I be checking exactly?
[15:24] <Wizard> Look at /var/log/messages.. If it exists on Ubuntu.
[15:24] <GermainZ> I am looking at logs in /var/log but there's no "messages", if that's what you meant.
[16:54] <Skogsmull3n> any 1 know how to change the style of the panel at the bottom in xfce
[16:54] <Sun`Star> like how?
[16:54] <baizon> Skogsmull3n: right click and panel settings
[16:54] <baizon> its that what you mean?
[16:55] <Sun`Star> size / color position would be right click -> panel -> panel settings
[16:55] <GridCube> you can choose another gtk theme too, or choose an image as its background and make it transparent, and...
[16:55] <Skogsmull3n> ye the last 1
[16:55] <Skogsmull3n> gtk theme
[16:55] <Sun`Star> thats all in panel 1 prefrences
[16:56] <Skogsmull3n> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/give-your-linux-desktop-new-hope-with-this-gtk3-theme i mean the bottom 1
[16:58] <GridCube> Skogsmull3n, thats a dock, probably docky
[16:59] <Skogsmull3n> oh :o
[17:00] <GermainZ> Definitely docky
[17:00] <GridCube> it could be avant, but i havent used any for too long :P xfce panels are pretty enough
[17:01] <GermainZ> I use cairo-dock but tried docky recently and that's exactly how it looks. :)
[17:01] <GermainZ> I like eye candy.
[17:02] <usr13>  If one of us xubuntu'ers wants to try out Unity, we only need to install ubuntu-desktop.  Right?  or...?
[17:02] <GermainZ> It'll come with bloat
[17:03] <GermainZ> I would suggest you backup the last line of apt's log file, after you're done.
[17:03] <GermainZ> That way you can easily uninstall everything that came with it.
[17:04] <GermainZ> Uninstalling ubuntu-desktop probably won't do anything, as I'm guessing it's just a package
[17:04] <GermainZ> (someone might want to correct me about the actual term "package", not sure :) )
[17:04] <usr13> !ubuntu-desktop
[17:04] <bazhang> meta package GermainZ
[17:04] <GermainZ> Thank you, metapackage :)
[17:05] <usr13> (I'm trying to advise an adventurous new user that I've steered onto xubuntu.  She thinks she wants to try Unity and see what it's like.)
[17:06] <GridCube> vbox
[17:06] <GridCube> !vbox
[17:06] <usr13> She has plenty of horsepower, so....
[17:06] <GridCube> P: for testing there is nothing better
[17:06] <usr13> aaahhh Yea.  That's a good idea.  She can install Ubuntu in VirtualBox.
[17:06] <GridCube> yes
[17:07] <usr13> Thank you.  That's what I'll tell her to do.  (Or actually, I may just do it for her.)
[17:07] <GridCube> that way she can learn a little bit more about computers too
[17:07] <usr13> Yep.
[18:02] <Guest82825> guys, how can I use btrfs and encrypt all my /home? I wish to find a releable tutorial for it.
[18:04] <Keyman> How can I troubleshoot boot hangs after making a choice from the menu? I cannot boot a live DVD or attempt to install the distro from the DVD
[18:04] <baizon> Guest82825: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746939
[18:05] <baizon> Keyman: have you checkd your memory?
[18:05] <Keyman> Yes the memory is fine. And I run a differnt distro on the box just fine.
[18:06] <Keyman> Ubuntu 12.04.2 runs very well only having an issue with the HP SMART Array 6400 every once and a while.
[18:06] <Keyman> Locks the process to D on I/O
[18:07] <Keyman> I don't know much about troubleshooting the boot process at this level. When I hit escape I get a boot: prompt but don't really know what to do in order to trace down the exact problem.
[18:13] <xubuntu472> donde esta el raton?
[18:13] <xubuntu472> heyyyy mates!! :D
[18:13] <knome> !es | xubuntu472
[18:13] <dBLOOD> Hi people!
[18:13] <knome> hullo
[18:13] <dBLOOD> could anyone help me with wine?
[18:14] <xubuntu472> wine and league of legends?
[18:14] <Dr^Fets> maybe
[18:14] <dBLOOD> I need to configure a wineprefix, wich is not the default one, but I cannot find the proper terminal command
[18:14] <xubuntu472> better HoN native DOTA
[18:14] <xubuntu472> :DDD
[18:14] <bazhang> dBLOOD, #winehq
[18:15] <dBLOOD> no, I don't play gay online games
[18:15] <dBLOOD> thx bazhang
[18:32] <n-iCe> !svn
[18:34] <baizon> n-iCe: i recommend git
[18:37] <_raven> hi
[18:38] <_raven> xubuntu 12.10 - seems to be a broken conf file: after login the window manager seems to crash - any idea how to solve?
[18:38] <baizon> _raven: try to clear the .cache directory (back it up first)
[18:38] <knome> no need to back up ~/.cache
[18:39] <baizon> knome: ou well, someone told me once to do it so i repeat :) I dont back it up myself. Will remember now :>
[18:40] <knome> baizon, sometimes you need to remove ~/.config and *that's* important to backup. ~/.cache is just temporary files and does not carry any settings or anything you'd want to keep
[18:40] <baizon> ok
[18:41] <_raven> baizon ok tnx that solved the problem
[18:42] <baizon> np
[19:19] <smurk> hey there guys, may I ask for piece of advice? :) I'm running xubuntu 12.10 with dual monitors and flash videos seems to be little bugged.. sometimes their fullscreen is buggy.. I've tried google solution, but without success.. :<
[19:57] <sabayonuser> пвттрерап
[19:57] <Wizard> sabayonuser: Hi.
[19:58] <Wizard> What does "pwttrerap" mean?
[19:59] <GermainZ> More like nBTTPePan
[20:01] <bazhang> its russian
[20:02] <Wizard> Cyrylics gibberish rather :D
[20:02] <bazhang> !ru
[20:02] <bazhang> would be the correct response
[20:02] <Wizard> But it wasn't even a word.
[20:03] <bazhang> it was an abbreviation of several
[20:03] <Wizard> And half of slavic word uses cyrrylics. how would I know if it wasn't for example bulgarian or macedonian? :P
[20:03] <Wizard> s/eord/world/
[20:05] <Wizard> Question.
[20:06] <pleia2> Answer.
[20:06] <GermainZ> 42.
[20:07] <Wizard> Xubuntu 10.04, I want to have two keyboard layouts available, pl and ru with phonetic variant. Problem is, that "pl" has to be altered: ISO level 3 shift has to be moved from right alt to super key.
[20:07] <GermainZ> Can't you change that in the Keyboard layout option?
[20:07] <Wizard> I'm trying to construct setxkbmap command.
[20:08] <Wizard> Keyboard layout options don't allow moving iso lvl 3 shift.
[20:08] <GermainZ> Oh, okay.
[20:09] <Wizard> Hmm.
[20:09] <Wizard> XFCE had "two state launcher" once.
[20:09] <Wizard> That would be handy.
[20:42] <netcrash> hello, I just compiled linux kernel 3.8.2 for x86_64 everything looks ok, except that I close the lid (6730b hp notebook) the computer suspends, after I lift the lid back and turn on, the notebook fan turns on at high speed and doesn't stop. What can be the problem?
[20:44] <Wizard> I'm not sure if custom kernels are supported here.. Answering your question, I have no idea. maybe thermal module gets crazy?
[20:48] <netcrash> :S the temp shows bellow 44º
[20:48] <netcrash> I'm trying to place a option I missed in ACPI menu
[20:48] <netcrash> to see if that's is what's missing
[20:48] <netcrash> if anything is really missing
[20:48] <netcrash> brb
[20:56] <smurk> Why doesnt the effin flashplayer work as it should? -.-
[21:02] <Wizard> smurk: How it should?
[21:04] <smurk> Wizard: I run dual monitor.. And most of flash videos are shrinked.. Either they are shrinked to the size of the smaller monitor, or they are weirdly shrinked vertically only..
[21:09] <Wizard> smurk: Strange indeed..
[21:10] <smurk> Wizard: http://i.imgur.com/ndY0xCK.jpg here's screen of what it looks like..
[21:11] <Wizard> Flash is that game? or what?
[21:12] <smurk> its stream
[21:13] <smurk> http://imgur.com/q8no7xS and here what it looks like on youtube for example
[21:15] <Wizard> o_O
[21:15] <Wizard> Seems like it isn't calcualting screen res properly :|
[21:15] <smurk> But sometimes it works correctly
[21:16] <smurk> but just only sometimes..
[21:17] <Wizard> Hmm, does it work ok when you run it on primary display?
[21:18] <smurk> Primary display you mean the bigger one or the one with task bar, etc?
[21:19] <Wizard> Yes.
[21:20] <smurk> well if I run on the smaller display, it works correctly.. if I turn off the smaller display and run it only on the larger one, then it works correctly too
[21:24] <Wizard> :(
[21:25] <Wizard> Do other multimedia (or fullscreen) appliactions behave like that too?
[21:25] <smurk> nope, just flash videos..
[21:25] <smurk> It's known bug.. But solutions I found online does not work..
[21:26] <Wizard> Solution would be if Adobe stopped sucking at coding.
[21:26] <Wizard> You can fill a bug report, but I bet they will ignore it.
[21:27] <Wizard> BTW, do you use nvidia's twinview or normal XRandr for dual head?
[21:28] <smurk> I do have ATI graphic card.. And I used xrandr at first, and know just whatever it is default in xubuntus's settings
[21:28] <Wizard> XRandr.
[21:29] <smurk> well, then xrandr it is :)
[21:29] <Wizard> I meant XRandr as a protocol, not as console tool :)
[21:29] <Wizard> Hmm, than I'm 99% sure it's a bug in flash.
[21:29] <Wizard> And I can't help you. Maybe somebody else here will.
[21:30] <smurk> There are not any more sources where can I download flash plugin, apart from Adobe site and Software Center, right?
[21:31]  * Wizard nods.
[21:31] <Unit193> You can pull the one from Chrome and use it in chromium...
[21:32] <smurk> Well I may try first, if it works in Chromium properly..
[21:36] <smurk> yea, it is buggy in chromium too.. :(
[21:37] <Unit193> Sure it is, it is flash after all.  Did you change h/w accel options?  And are you using pepperflash in chromium?  Doesn't matter as much if you are using the same version of flash.
[21:49] <smurk> I didn't change anything.. I'm using whatever is preinstalled in chromium and firefox..
[22:16] <jimmyelrata>  Hi, what virtual keyboards do you recommend?
[22:18] <jimmyelrata> I tried xvkbd
[22:18] <pleia2> onboard is pretty decent
[22:20] <jimmyelrata>  pleia2: Ok, thanks! I'll check it out