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| camelinahat | Morning folks. | 11:38 |
| camelinahat | jbicha: Was anything ever decided on for a different logo? | 17:07 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I did major edits to the wiki on Ubuntu GNOME: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10 <<< I moved most of the general info to the main page and left the download page with the install info and bug reporting information. | 17:56 |
| jbicha | SonikkuAmerica: ok but what happens when 13.04 is released? | 18:01 |
| jbicha | We need a separate single page (or group of pages) with the complete release notes for every milestone (12.10 Final, 12.10 Beta, 13.04 Beta, etc.) | 18:02 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I do plan on removing the stuff on specific version info and pointing to each release... should I set up a separate page for each of them...? | 18:02 |
| SonikkuAmerica | (I understand we're only having one beta release before the 1st stable) | 18:03 |
| jbicha | yes we should not delete release notes for any release that we do (and that includes any Alpha or Beta milestones) | 18:03 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I didn't delete all the release notes... but should I throw specific version info back into the page for the release? | 18:04 |
| SonikkuAmerica | If so, that's an easy fix | 18:04 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Like (GNOME Shell 3.6) etc...? | 18:05 |
| camelinahat | Can probably remove 'Remix' from the mailing list link as well :) | 18:05 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh right... XD I tried to get rid of all the refs to "Remix" | 18:06 |
| camelinahat | :) | 18:06 |
| jbicha | SonikkuAmerica: almost all of the stuff you moved to the front page of the wiki is part of the Release Notes | 18:06 |
| jbicha | see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes for instance | 18:06 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh OK... so what exactly stays on it? | 18:09 |
| jbicha | SonikkuAmerica: ok the page looks better now, could you also copy the Participate, More Information, and Support sections back to the release notes as well | 18:11 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Sure. | 18:11 |
| jbicha | you can keep a copy on the main page too | 18:12 |
| jbicha | thanks, the front page of the wiki does look better now! | 18:12 |
| jbicha | it was very minimal before as we needed to at least have something there | 18:13 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Yeah... I think I got a little overzealous with my first edit and decided to swing by. I'm really excited that GNOME is (sort of) coming back to Ubuntu, and as a young college student with a passion for both Ubuntu and GNOME, wanted to get involved. | 18:14 |
| jbicha | SonikkuAmerica: you're in Ohio, right? | 18:16 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Yeah | 18:16 |
| jbicha | SonikkuAmerica: have you met gonyere yet? I believe she runs Ubuntu and is active with GNOME | 18:17 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Nope. | 18:17 |
| jbicha | and there will be several GNOME guys at http://openhelpconference.com/ | 18:18 |
| jbicha | I went last year but won't be able to this year | 18:18 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I dunno... That's actually the week before Cedarville starts fall classes, and it's only about an hour's drive from there... | 18:19 |
| jbicha | really? fall semester starts in June/July? | 18:21 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh wait... I'm looking at the '12 schedule... derp I could've made if I'd known | 18:22 |
| SonikkuAmerica | It's actually pretty early this year... | 18:22 |
| jbicha | it was in June the first year (2011) too | 18:23 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Yeah... and I doubt I'll have $100 plus hotel fee... oh well | 18:24 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I probably could use a few webinars' worth of stuff | 18:24 |
| jbicha | SonikkuAmerica: well....are you interested in writing help for GNOME? | 18:25 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I actually see myself as a concept-oriented kind of guy, but I did join the Spanish translation team because I'm a fluent Spanish speaker as well as an English speaker and can understand written Spanish well | 18:26 |
| jbicha | if you were a GNOME Foundation member and were involved in docs then I believe there's sponsorship money available | 18:28 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I'm not (yet) enough of a contributor. In fact, I'm just starting out. | 18:30 |
| jbicha | you can to shaunm on #docs on irc.gnome.org if he has a student discount; conferences/hackfests are a bit expensive to put on but we don't want to exclude people | 18:31 |
| jbicha | *can talk to* | 18:31 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Is that a symlink to freenode or its own (or a different) IRC network | 18:31 |
| SonikkuAmerica | ? | 18:32 |
| jbicha | GNOME uses a different irc network | 18:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | OK | 18:35 |
| camelinahat | jbicha: Did you catch my message earlier about the icons? Of the ones that were presented on the mailing list or on G+ rather than quick and dirty ones I threw for G+ and FB? | 18:40 |
| jbicha | camelinahat: I like the mailing list ones, we'll have to decide soon since User Interface Freeze is next Thursday | 18:46 |
| jbicha | I'm thinking we'll just have to pick something by Monday and it can always be revisited or tweaked in a future release cycle | 18:46 |
| jbicha | I'll email the list tonight or tomorrow | 18:47 |
| camelinahat | jbicha: sounds good. I like them better than what I have right now but don't want to be switching them a lot either. | 18:51 |
| laz0rrrgore | hey guys, just installed 13.04, but there seems to be some kind of problem. gdm is starting (at least i'm in a gdm session), but it won't show me the login screen. i can only manage to login through console. | 21:50 |
| darkxst | laz0rrrgore, probably openGL is broken | 21:51 |
| laz0rrrgore | oh! anything i can do about it, or just wait till a fix is in the repos? | 21:52 |
| darkxst | laz0rrrgore, what graphics drivers do you use? | 21:53 |
| darkxst | its probably a misconfiguration on your end | 21:55 |
| laz0rrrgore | darkxst, how to find out? i've got the thinkpad sl510 with Intel GMA 4500MHD. just installed the daily from today | 21:55 |
| darkxst | did the live CD work ok? | 21:56 |
| laz0rrrgore | yeah | 21:56 |
| laz0rrrgore | i can also see the blue stripes background after install. just not the gdm prompt | 21:57 |
| Leon_Nardella | I'm in the same situation with a GMA900 Dell netbook. | 21:58 |
| laz0rrrgore | tried to add gnome3-team ppa (because i thought maybe an updated gdm would help), but no luck ... | 22:00 |
| darkxst | ok try 'apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-intel' | 22:04 |
| darkxst | if that doesnt help, grab the xorg logs from /var/log/gdm/:0.log | 22:05 |
| laz0rrrgore | thanks ... i'm on it .... | 22:06 |
| laz0rrrgore | reinstalling didn't work ... | 22:15 |
| darkxst | laz0rrrgore, can you grab the X logs then | 22:16 |
| laz0rrrgore | i think so ;) just a sec | 22:16 |
| laz0rrrgore | ok,. here it is ... http://bit.ly/15RmLIq | 22:29 |
| darkxst | that looks fine, what about if you run 'export DISPLAY=:0; glxinfo | grep OpenGL' | 22:34 |
| darkxst | is renderer listed as Software/llvm | 22:35 |
| darkxst | 'LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo' | 22:37 |
| laz0rrrgore | think i'm doing something wrong here. just getting 'Error: unable to open display :0' | 22:40 |
| darkxst | maybe it can't connect to the gdm server | 22:41 |
| darkxst | you could try 'startx -- :1' | 22:41 |
| darkxst | and then use :1 in the above command | 22:41 |
| laz0rrrgore | ah. maybe i'm the wrong guy for this. getting: 'xinit: connection to X server lost' | 22:44 |
| darkxst | laz0rrrgore, can you file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug mesa' | 22:47 |
| darkxst | after you have done that, you can try and upgrade mesa and see if that helps https://launchpad.net/~darkxst/+archive/mesa/+packages | 22:48 |
| darkxst | jbicha, should we be listed on the isotracker? | 22:49 |
| laz0rrrgore | sure! are there any details i should mention in the bug report? | 22:49 |
| darkxst | laz0rrrgore, just cc me on the bug | 22:51 |
| jbicha | darkxst: yes but we probably just need to specify what tests we want | 22:53 |
| laz0rrrgore | darkxst: okay. thanks for your help and for your patience in spite of my newbism | 22:54 |
| darkxst | laz0rrrgore, if updated mesa doesnt work, as a temporary workaround you can blacklist the intel kernel module | 22:55 |
| darkxst | then it will fallback to llvmpipe (as its meant to anyway, when glx is broken) | 22:56 |
| darkxst | jbicha, I think something similar to Ubuntu Studio would be a good start | 23:00 |
| jbicha | darkxst: ok, do you want to ask on #ubuntu-release about that? | 23:03 |
| darkxst | laz0rrrgore, you didnt use ubuntu-bug? | 23:05 |
| darkxst | can you run 'apport-collect 1155829', so system info gets added to the bug | 23:05 |
| laz0rrrgore | oh sorry, i'm totally new to this ... | 23:05 |
| darkxst | jbicha, ok | 23:09 |
| laz0rrrgore | darkxst: apparently i can't. is this possible from console? it asks for authorization through the browser | 23:14 |
| SolidSteel144 | hi, does anyone else have issues getting UG 13.04 daily to install? | 23:24 |
| jbicha | SolidSteel144: have you had any trouble installing the regular Ubuntu daily? | 23:29 |
| SolidSteel144 | no | 23:29 |
| SolidSteel144 | UG 13.04 daily gets stuck on preparing to install | 23:29 |
| SolidSteel144 | well actually, I misread.. I haven't tried regular ubuntu 13.04 daily lately | 23:30 |
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