=== timmy is now known as Guest27218 [00:42] which version of ubuntu will start using MIR === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:38] Morning folks. [17:07] jbicha: Was anything ever decided on for a different logo? [17:56] I did major edits to the wiki on Ubuntu GNOME: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10 <<< I moved most of the general info to the main page and left the download page with the install info and bug reporting information. [18:01] SonikkuAmerica: ok but what happens when 13.04 is released? [18:02] We need a separate single page (or group of pages) with the complete release notes for every milestone (12.10 Final, 12.10 Beta, 13.04 Beta, etc.) [18:02] I do plan on removing the stuff on specific version info and pointing to each release... should I set up a separate page for each of them...? [18:03] (I understand we're only having one beta release before the 1st stable) [18:03] yes we should not delete release notes for any release that we do (and that includes any Alpha or Beta milestones) [18:04] I didn't delete all the release notes... but should I throw specific version info back into the page for the release? [18:04] If so, that's an easy fix [18:05] Like (GNOME Shell 3.6) etc...? [18:05] Can probably remove 'Remix' from the mailing list link as well :) [18:06] Oh right... XD I tried to get rid of all the refs to "Remix" [18:06] :) [18:06] SonikkuAmerica: almost all of the stuff you moved to the front page of the wiki is part of the Release Notes [18:06] see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes for instance [18:09] Oh OK... so what exactly stays on it? [18:11] SonikkuAmerica: ok the page looks better now, could you also copy the Participate, More Information, and Support sections back to the release notes as well [18:11] Sure. [18:12] you can keep a copy on the main page too [18:12] thanks, the front page of the wiki does look better now! [18:13] it was very minimal before as we needed to at least have something there [18:14] Yeah... I think I got a little overzealous with my first edit and decided to swing by. I'm really excited that GNOME is (sort of) coming back to Ubuntu, and as a young college student with a passion for both Ubuntu and GNOME, wanted to get involved. [18:16] SonikkuAmerica: you're in Ohio, right? [18:16] Yeah [18:17] SonikkuAmerica: have you met gonyere yet? I believe she runs Ubuntu and is active with GNOME [18:17] Nope. [18:18] and there will be several GNOME guys at http://openhelpconference.com/ [18:18] I went last year but won't be able to this year [18:19] I dunno... That's actually the week before Cedarville starts fall classes, and it's only about an hour's drive from there... [18:21] really? fall semester starts in June/July? [18:22] Oh wait... I'm looking at the '12 schedule... derp I could've made if I'd known [18:22] It's actually pretty early this year... [18:23] it was in June the first year (2011) too [18:24] Yeah... and I doubt I'll have $100 plus hotel fee... oh well [18:24] I probably could use a few webinars' worth of stuff [18:25] SonikkuAmerica: well....are you interested in writing help for GNOME? [18:26] I actually see myself as a concept-oriented kind of guy, but I did join the Spanish translation team because I'm a fluent Spanish speaker as well as an English speaker and can understand written Spanish well [18:28] if you were a GNOME Foundation member and were involved in docs then I believe there's sponsorship money available [18:30] I'm not (yet) enough of a contributor. In fact, I'm just starting out. [18:31] you can to shaunm on #docs on irc.gnome.org if he has a student discount; conferences/hackfests are a bit expensive to put on but we don't want to exclude people [18:31] *can talk to* [18:31] Is that a symlink to freenode or its own (or a different) IRC network [18:32] ? [18:35] GNOME uses a different irc network [18:35] OK [18:40] jbicha: Did you catch my message earlier about the icons? Of the ones that were presented on the mailing list or on G+ rather than quick and dirty ones I threw for G+ and FB? [18:46] camelinahat: I like the mailing list ones, we'll have to decide soon since User Interface Freeze is next Thursday [18:46] I'm thinking we'll just have to pick something by Monday and it can always be revisited or tweaked in a future release cycle [18:47] I'll email the list tonight or tomorrow [18:51] jbicha: sounds good. I like them better than what I have right now but don't want to be switching them a lot either. [21:50] hey guys, just installed 13.04, but there seems to be some kind of problem. gdm is starting (at least i'm in a gdm session), but it won't show me the login screen. i can only manage to login through console. [21:51] laz0rrrgore, probably openGL is broken [21:52] oh! anything i can do about it, or just wait till a fix is in the repos? [21:53] laz0rrrgore, what graphics drivers do you use? [21:55] its probably a misconfiguration on your end [21:55] darkxst, how to find out? i've got the thinkpad sl510 with Intel GMA 4500MHD. just installed the daily from today [21:56] did the live CD work ok? [21:56] yeah [21:57] i can also see the blue stripes background after install. just not the gdm prompt [21:58] I'm in the same situation with a GMA900 Dell netbook. [22:00] tried to add gnome3-team ppa (because i thought maybe an updated gdm would help), but no luck ... [22:04] ok try 'apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-intel' [22:05] if that doesnt help, grab the xorg logs from /var/log/gdm/:0.log [22:06] thanks ... i'm on it .... [22:15] reinstalling didn't work ... [22:16] laz0rrrgore, can you grab the X logs then [22:16] i think so ;) just a sec [22:29] ok,. here it is ... http://bit.ly/15RmLIq [22:34] that looks fine, what about if you run 'export DISPLAY=:0; glxinfo | grep OpenGL' [22:35] is renderer listed as Software/llvm [22:37] 'LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo' [22:40] think i'm doing something wrong here. just getting 'Error: unable to open display :0' [22:41] maybe it can't connect to the gdm server [22:41] you could try 'startx -- :1' [22:41] and then use :1 in the above command [22:44] ah. maybe i'm the wrong guy for this. getting: 'xinit: connection to X server lost' [22:47] laz0rrrgore, can you file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug mesa' [22:48] after you have done that, you can try and upgrade mesa and see if that helps https://launchpad.net/~darkxst/+archive/mesa/+packages [22:49] jbicha, should we be listed on the isotracker? [22:49] sure! are there any details i should mention in the bug report? [22:51] laz0rrrgore, just cc me on the bug [22:53] darkxst: yes but we probably just need to specify what tests we want [22:54] darkxst: okay. thanks for your help and for your patience in spite of my newbism [22:55] laz0rrrgore, if updated mesa doesnt work, as a temporary workaround you can blacklist the intel kernel module [22:56] then it will fallback to llvmpipe (as its meant to anyway, when glx is broken) [23:00] jbicha, I think something similar to Ubuntu Studio would be a good start [23:03] darkxst: ok, do you want to ask on #ubuntu-release about that? [23:05] laz0rrrgore, you didnt use ubuntu-bug? [23:05] can you run 'apport-collect 1155829', so system info gets added to the bug [23:05] oh sorry, i'm totally new to this ... [23:09] jbicha, ok [23:14] darkxst: apparently i can't. is this possible from console? it asks for authorization through the browser [23:24] hi, does anyone else have issues getting UG 13.04 daily to install? [23:29] SolidSteel144: have you had any trouble installing the regular Ubuntu daily? [23:29] no [23:29] UG 13.04 daily gets stuck on preparing to install [23:30] well actually, I misread.. I haven't tried regular ubuntu 13.04 daily lately