/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/03/15/#ubuntu-manual.txt

CarstenGHi Hannie15:39
hanniehey CarstenG15:39
hannieCarstenG, would you like me to test your new script or is the Greek test sufficient?15:40
CarstenGI just saw your email about Natilus / Files.15:40
hannieCarstenG, yes, I was just going to answer vibhav on Nautilus 3.615:40
hannieWhat do you think of Nautilus 3.6?15:41
CarstenGI think, you can drop a marginnote about this change, but I would not write a whole section for downgrading to 3.4. I think we should describe the current situation...15:41
godbykhannie: Since the manual is primarily for people just starting to use Ubuntu, I think it'd be too confusing to say, 'Here's how the file manager works. But this one stinks and you should install this other one instead.'  I think we're better off just documenting the default file manager.15:42
godbykCarstenG: Your script is pretty awesome. Nicely done!15:42
CarstenGKevin, this is also my point.15:42
hanniehi godbyk15:42
hannieI am chewing on your comment right now15:43
CarstenGThanks, :-) I will improve it further, I just know about some minor bugs...15:43
godbykAlso, sabdfl just approved this feature-freeze exception: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/115422915:43
manualbotLaunchpad bug 1154229 in unity-scope-gdrive "[FFE] New Unity stack" [Undecided,Triaged]15:43
godbykSo we'll have to keep an eye on that.It looks like it'll be landing quite late, unfortunately.15:43
CarstenGgrml... I thought is was set to "wont fix"...15:45
godbykCarstenG: Me, too. I'm getting a bit irked about this huge features that are shoehorned in at the last moment.15:45
godbykIt makes our job quite difficult.15:46
godbykIt takes us time to learn how these new features work so we can document and describe them.15:46
godbykAnd then we have to wait even longer for them to finish fiddling with the UI so we can take screenshots.15:46
godbykWith this one, they say the *goal* is to have everything ready by 25 March.15:47
godbykWhether it'll actually be ready by then is anyone's guess.15:47
godbykI'll be back in a bit.15:50
CarstenGHannie: To your first question. Yes, it would be nice, if you could test the script.15:58
hannieCarstenG, ok I will test and let you know the results16:00
CarstenGGret :-)16:01
CarstenGGreat. :-)16:01
hannie....and, I have some rewriting for Nautilus to do16:01
CarstenGmy script has lower priority, so don't feel constrained to test it.16:06
hannieoh, no, I am reading the script email right now16:06
hannieI will use 12.04, which is fully translated16:08
hannieCarstenG, I do not see any \input{} command in ubuntu-manual.tex. I do see \include{frontmatter/copyright} etc.16:18
hannieYou write: Move any \input command after the \begin{document}, e.g. the16:19
hannie\input{frontmatter/glossary-entries}.16:19
hannieoops, I was wrong (didn't wear my glasses :))16:21
CarstenGmmmh, in my ubuntu-manual.tex from precise-e2 I have a \input{}16:21
CarstenG:-D16:21
hannieAnd of course I should use find16:22
godbykI'm back now.16:25
hannieCarstenG, one remark though: the \input is not after, but BEFORE the \begin{document} command. But the replacement should be AFTER the \begin{document} I suppose.16:26
CarstenGYes, you are right.16:27
hannieoki, I am going to test it now.16:27
hannieCarstenG, executing ./update_po_files_with_LP_links.sh en.po > output = "grep: en.po : file or folder does not exist.16:38
hannieShould I use nl.po instead of en.po?16:38
CarstenGsure16:38
CarstenGthis was only as example :-)16:39
hannieah, I am a dummy ;)16:39
CarstenGI should mention it :-)16:39
hannieI have back-uped nl.po, just in case16:39
CarstenGgood.16:39
CarstenGThe script will also create a backup called "nl.po-backup"16:40
hannieyes, I read that. Good precaution16:40
hannieHa, it works!16:41
hannieAll index enties in nl.po > should be "entries"?16:43
CarstenGyes.16:45
hannieGo out of the /po directory and do a16:46
hannie  $ make ubuntu-manual-en.pdf > not from the /po, but from /Projects/precise-e2 (in my case anyhow)16:46
hanniesorry, it was ok16:46
CarstenGyes, this I mean with "go out of the /po directory"16:47
hannieglasses, Hannie, wear your glasses ):16:47
CarstenGmeans "cd .."16:47
hannieCarstenG, the links are ok, but some of them show on top of the text16:50
hannie[]Een gebruiker aanpassen16:50
hannie[]Klik op een naam16:50
CarstenGYes, this is because I write the links "to the left"... They should not influence the layout...16:52
hannieMost of the links show "to the left", but others show over the existing text in the pdf16:53
CarstenGWell, the links do not know, if there is some other text...16:55
hannieAlso, over bullets, instead of to the left of bullets16:55
CarstenGone moment, I test something16:55
hannieI see the same in the German example. But as a whole it is a pretty piece of work. Well done!16:57
CarstenGThanks.17:00
hannieIt really works! I will surely use it for the next Dutch translation.17:01
CarstenGYou should keep in mind, that this is for proofreading, not for printing the document :-)17:01
hannieCarstenG, I was just a bit picky. It is (almost) perfect ;)17:02
CarstenGpicky comments are always welcome, I’m also picky.17:04
CarstenGsometimes :-)17:04
hannieI think you can consider it ready for use.17:05
hannieFor stupid readers like me, the instructions can do with a bit of clarifying.17:06
CarstenGOk, I will keep it in mind for an update. :-)17:07
hanniee.g.: Go out of the /po directory and do a17:07
hannie  $ make ubuntu-manual-en.pdf17:07
hannie> en = your own language17:07
hannieAnd thanks for the work you did. See you.17:07
CarstenGIf you want you can remove the optional arguments »[0cm][r]«of \makebox in the \newcommand ...17:08
CarstenG... then you will get no links over the other text...17:09

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