[15:39] <CarstenG> Hi Hannie
[15:39] <hannie> hey CarstenG
[15:40] <hannie> CarstenG, would you like me to test your new script or is the Greek test sufficient?
[15:40] <CarstenG> I just saw your email about Natilus / Files.
[15:40] <hannie> CarstenG, yes, I was just going to answer vibhav on Nautilus 3.6
[15:41] <hannie> What do you think of Nautilus 3.6?
[15:41] <CarstenG> I think, you can drop a marginnote about this change, but I would not write a whole section for downgrading to 3.4. I think we should describe the current situation...
[15:42] <godbyk> hannie: Since the manual is primarily for people just starting to use Ubuntu, I think it'd be too confusing to say, 'Here's how the file manager works. But this one stinks and you should install this other one instead.'  I think we're better off just documenting the default file manager.
[15:42] <godbyk> CarstenG: Your script is pretty awesome. Nicely done!
[15:42] <CarstenG> Kevin, this is also my point.
[15:42] <hannie> hi godbyk
[15:43] <hannie> I am chewing on your comment right now
[15:43] <CarstenG> Thanks, :-) I will improve it further, I just know about some minor bugs...
[15:43] <godbyk> Also, sabdfl just approved this feature-freeze exception: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1154229
[15:43] <manualbot> Launchpad bug 1154229 in unity-scope-gdrive "[FFE] New Unity stack" [Undecided,Triaged]
[15:43] <godbyk> So we'll have to keep an eye on that.It looks like it'll be landing quite late, unfortunately.
[15:45] <CarstenG> grml... I thought is was set to "wont fix"...
[15:45] <godbyk> CarstenG: Me, too. I'm getting a bit irked about this huge features that are shoehorned in at the last moment.
[15:46] <godbyk> It makes our job quite difficult.
[15:46] <godbyk> It takes us time to learn how these new features work so we can document and describe them.
[15:46] <godbyk> And then we have to wait even longer for them to finish fiddling with the UI so we can take screenshots.
[15:47] <godbyk> With this one, they say the *goal* is to have everything ready by 25 March.
[15:47] <godbyk> Whether it'll actually be ready by then is anyone's guess.
[15:50] <godbyk> I'll be back in a bit.
[15:58] <CarstenG> Hannie: To your first question. Yes, it would be nice, if you could test the script.
[16:00] <hannie> CarstenG, ok I will test and let you know the results
[16:01] <CarstenG> Gret :-)
[16:01] <CarstenG> Great. :-)
[16:01] <hannie> ....and, I have some rewriting for Nautilus to do
[16:06] <CarstenG> my script has lower priority, so don't feel constrained to test it.
[16:06] <hannie> oh, no, I am reading the script email right now
[16:08] <hannie> I will use 12.04, which is fully translated
[16:18] <hannie> CarstenG, I do not see any \input{} command in ubuntu-manual.tex. I do see \include{frontmatter/copyright} etc.
[16:19] <hannie> You write: Move any \input command after the \begin{document}, e.g. the
[16:19] <hannie> \input{frontmatter/glossary-entries}.
[16:21] <hannie> oops, I was wrong (didn't wear my glasses :))
[16:21] <CarstenG> mmmh, in my ubuntu-manual.tex from precise-e2 I have a \input{}
[16:21] <CarstenG> :-D
[16:22] <hannie> And of course I should use find
[16:25] <godbyk> I'm back now.
[16:26] <hannie> CarstenG, one remark though: the \input is not after, but BEFORE the \begin{document} command. But the replacement should be AFTER the \begin{document} I suppose.
[16:27] <CarstenG> Yes, you are right.
[16:27] <hannie> oki, I am going to test it now.
[16:38] <hannie> CarstenG, executing ./update_po_files_with_LP_links.sh en.po > output = "grep: en.po : file or folder does not exist.
[16:38] <hannie> Should I use nl.po instead of en.po?
[16:38] <CarstenG> sure
[16:39] <CarstenG> this was only as example :-)
[16:39] <hannie> ah, I am a dummy ;)
[16:39] <CarstenG> I should mention it :-)
[16:39] <hannie> I have back-uped nl.po, just in case
[16:39] <CarstenG> good.
[16:40] <CarstenG> The script will also create a backup called "nl.po-backup"
[16:40] <hannie> yes, I read that. Good precaution
[16:41] <hannie> Ha, it works!
[16:43] <hannie> All index enties in nl.po > should be "entries"?
[16:45] <CarstenG> yes.
[16:46] <hannie> Go out of the /po directory and do a
[16:46] <hannie>   $ make ubuntu-manual-en.pdf > not from the /po, but from /Projects/precise-e2 (in my case anyhow)
[16:46] <hannie> sorry, it was ok
[16:47] <CarstenG> yes, this I mean with "go out of the /po directory"
[16:47] <hannie> glasses, Hannie, wear your glasses ):
[16:47] <CarstenG> means "cd .."
[16:50] <hannie> CarstenG, the links are ok, but some of them show on top of the text
[16:50] <hannie> []Een gebruiker aanpassen
[16:50] <hannie> []Klik op een naam
[16:52] <CarstenG> Yes, this is because I write the links "to the left"... They should not influence the layout...
[16:53] <hannie> Most of the links show "to the left", but others show over the existing text in the pdf
[16:55] <CarstenG> Well, the links do not know, if there is some other text...
[16:55] <hannie> Also, over bullets, instead of to the left of bullets
[16:55] <CarstenG> one moment, I test something
[16:57] <hannie> I see the same in the German example. But as a whole it is a pretty piece of work. Well done!
[17:00] <CarstenG> Thanks.
[17:01] <hannie> It really works! I will surely use it for the next Dutch translation.
[17:01] <CarstenG> You should keep in mind, that this is for proofreading, not for printing the document :-)
[17:02] <hannie> CarstenG, I was just a bit picky. It is (almost) perfect ;)
[17:04] <CarstenG> picky comments are always welcome, I’m also picky.
[17:04] <CarstenG> sometimes :-)
[17:05] <hannie> I think you can consider it ready for use.
[17:06] <hannie> For stupid readers like me, the instructions can do with a bit of clarifying.
[17:07] <CarstenG> Ok, I will keep it in mind for an update. :-)
[17:07] <hannie> e.g.: Go out of the /po directory and do a
[17:07] <hannie>   $ make ubuntu-manual-en.pdf
[17:07] <hannie> > en = your own language
[17:07] <hannie> And thanks for the work you did. See you.
[17:08] <CarstenG> If you want you can remove the optional arguments »[0cm][r]«of \makebox in the \newcommand ...
[17:09] <CarstenG> ... then you will get no links over the other text...