[06:29] <pitti> Good morning
[07:26] <dholbach> good morning
[07:55] <jibel> good morning
[11:22] <pitti> jibel: nice, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/JHBuild%20Gnome/ is getting updated results
[11:23] <pitti> libwnck looks odd, no log/error message
[11:23] <pitti> same for colord-gtk
[11:31] <jibel> pitti, I killed colord-gtk which hung and for wnck, jenkins slave segfaulted
[11:31] <jibel> not wnck's fault
[14:35] <balloons> phillw, ping
[14:36] <smartboyhw> Hello balloons
[14:36] <balloons> hey smartboyhw !
[14:36] <balloons> smartboyhw, did you see the hackfest proposed times?
[14:36] <balloons> work for you?
[14:36] <smartboyhw> balloons, OK
[15:42] <smartboyhw> phillw, nice servers eh?
[15:42] <smartboyhw> Getting all ISOs hosted
[15:42] <smartboyhw> phillw, you should become a ISO or even package official mirror
[15:52] <phillw> i offer it for the 'smaller teams' who may struggle to have enough seeders for torrenting. That's why ubuntu is not on the server, I've nothing against ubuntu but they have enough people to seed :)
[15:59] <balloons> phillw, seen this? http://www.lxle.net/
[16:01] <phillw> balloons: I already mirror it :D
[16:01] <phillw> it is getting good reviews.
[16:06] <phillw> he's just spun up the Non-PAE version of it to maintain support for those who need it.
[18:51] <shadeslayer> stgraber: do you have an idea if lxc can be run inside a openvz instance?
[18:52] <stgraber> I'd be very surprised if it could as I suspect the OpenVZ kernel patch directly modifies some of the bits LXC uses
[18:52] <shadeslayer> sigh
[18:53] <shadeslayer> stgraber: would it run under KVM?
[18:53] <stgraber> you can run LXC within LXC but as far as I know it's the only contextualization system to support this, OpenVZ and Vserver don't have nesting (that I can remember)
[18:53] <stgraber> shadeslayer: yes, no problem with running LXC in a VM
[18:53] <shadeslayer> okay, thanks for clarifying that :)
[18:54] <stgraber> shadeslayer: did you try the upgrade test recently? I wonder whether the grub2 fix that went in on Tuesday fixed the upgrade failure we were seeing under lxc
[18:54] <shadeslayer> stgraber: it's running on my machine for the first time
[18:54] <shadeslayer> so it'll take a bit of time
[18:54] <shadeslayer> yofel: ^
[18:55] <stgraber> ok, I'll do a quick test run here then. Usually take just 10min or so
[18:55] <shadeslayer> you probably have everything cached :)
[18:56] <stgraber> nope, but I have gigabit internet, 32GB of RAM and run everything on tmpfs :)
[18:56] <shadeslayer> heh
[18:56] <yofel> ah, no wonder you didn't add an option to *not* use tmpfs ^^
[18:56] <shadeslayer> stgraber: will 7 GBs suffice for LXC in tmpfs?
[18:57] <stgraber> should be, IIRC you just need 2-3GB for most upgrades. It's just Edubuntu that takes a bit more
[18:57] <yofel> ok, seems like my guess was right
[18:57] <shadeslayer> cool
[18:57] <yofel> it's not like the grub2 fix doesn't work
[18:57] <yofel> it's that grub-pc is upgrade TOO LATE
[18:57] <yofel> *upgraded
[18:58] <shadeslayer> also, gigabit ethernet @_@
[19:01] <stgraber> I guess I could still use a mirror to make things a bit faster, archive.u.c isn't always that fast... I'm getting packages at 15MB/s now (so 1/8 of what I could be getting)
[19:01] <stgraber> but the download is just a minute or so of the update, so doesn't really matter that much
[19:02] <shadeslayer> @_@
[19:02] <meetingology> shadeslayer: Error: "_@" is not a valid command.
[19:02] <shadeslayer> I'm at a measly 2 Mbps connection
[19:02] <shadeslayer> another 5 minutes for it to download Quantal
[19:02] <shadeslayer> and then another hour to download the Raring packages
[19:06] <yofel> ok, need to run.
[19:06] <yofel> installing raring grub-pc *before* the upgrade makes LXC work fine
[19:07] <stgraber> right, so it looks like we need raring's fix SRUed to quantal then
[20:50] <Letozaf_> balloons, Hey
[20:50] <balloons> howdy Letozaf_
[20:50] <Letozaf_> balloons, fine and you ?
[20:51] <Letozaf_> balloons, for the shotwell autopilot test, what should I do, I mean it has problems with introspection so shall I cancel it from lp or what ?
[20:51] <balloons> pretty good
[20:52] <balloons> Letozaf_, well  I was hoping to get it in, provided it had some value as a usable base
[20:52] <balloons> I committed a lot of the work in progress gedit stuff
[20:53] <balloons> technically though it's trunk, many of the tests in there are wip :-)
[20:53] <balloons> which is "ok" for now
[20:54] <balloons> Letozaf_, yea, with shotwell didn't we hit the wall on not being able to select the camera?
[20:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok fine, maybe one day we can complete it, never know
[20:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes we hit the wall on not  being able to select the camera
[20:54] <balloons> Letozaf_, yes.. some of them might just be annoying.. the good news, is all the stuff we learned we can use on the ubuntu touch apps
[20:54] <balloons> which are in qt
[20:54] <balloons> and SO much nicer/easier to write ap tests for
[20:55] <Letozaf_> balloons, great!
[20:55] <balloons> yes.. shotwell really made me sad when we hit that wall
[20:55] <balloons> not even a keyboard shortcut for it
[20:55] <balloons> so odd
[20:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes odd
[20:56] <balloons> to fix it, imho, we could screenscrape and click the camera
[20:56] <balloons> or get them to include a keyboard shortcut :-)
[20:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, well the keyboard shortcut would be great as I know nothing about screenscape :(
[20:57] <balloons> it would be best
[20:57] <balloons> perhaps we should file a bug on it actaully
[20:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok, are you going to or do you want me to ?
[20:58] <balloons> Letozaf_, up to you :-)
[21:00]  * Letozaf_ is thinking
[21:00] <Letozaf_> balloons, what should I write, I mean it more like a request than a bug
[21:01] <balloons> Letozaf_, yes.. it would be a request.. enhancement, feature, whatever
[21:01] <Letozaf_> balloons, should I mention it's needed for carrying out autopilot tests on it ?
[21:05] <balloons> Letozaf_, you could mention it.. but it's also useful to help people in general
[21:05] <balloons> I mean, it's sort of annoying to not have any keyboard access or menu access to it
[21:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok I'll report a bug
[21:11] <balloons> phillw, ping
[21:11] <balloons> Letozaf_, kk :-)
[21:13] <phillw> balloons: pong
[21:13] <balloons> phillw,  I got your tests.. will you not have time to be at the hackfest? do you need help contributing them?
[21:14] <balloons> No reason lubuntu couldn't be using these now ;-)
[21:14] <balloons> well lubuntu and whomever else would be running the apps
[21:14] <phillw> I will try to attend, but I also have to do work on a new catalogue for my parent's company.
[21:16] <balloons> phillw, ok, well, I don't want to push them all up in your name, but certainly I can
[21:16] <phillw> balloons: plugging the gaps in our beta 1 "not tested" in time for beta 2 is now more of a priority for me, else we run the risk of several not making it for Release. Finding out the PPC iso was over sized, came as bit of a blow.
[21:16] <balloons> phillw, sure sure.. I'll make sure they are committed in
[21:17] <phillw> balloons: we did have them on the staging area, then it got re-done. Those are my backups (there will be duplicates).
[21:17] <balloons> that's fine.. they'll get a proper place in the repo, and then pushed to the tracke
[21:17] <balloons> then you can use them anytime
[21:18] <balloons> and have others from lubuntu work and enhance them also
[21:19] <phillw> yeah, looks lime we will not get the ppc-server test case done in time. I'll throw myself at the mercy of Colin (again) and get as many of the tests done as is possible on a desktop system.
[21:19] <phillw> s/lime/like
[21:19] <balloons> yea.. wouldn't want to be in your shoes on ppc-server ;-)
[21:19] <balloons> that's a toughie
[21:20] <balloons> ppc hw is not easy to come by
[21:20] <phillw> that could really do with one of guys from -release who has access to a ppc server install to pick up and run. It was they who told me that ppc is not *just* alive for desktop....
[21:21] <phillw> It's good to see new people joining QA, I will always endeavour to answer questions from the mailing list and also if anyone pings me on here.
[21:21] <Letozaf_> balloons, bug 1155794 did not have a lot of imagination  on writing it :(
[21:26] <phillw> Letozaf_: yup, that was short and lacking any sort of useful information :/
[21:26] <balloons> that works well enough
[21:26] <balloons> folks are at least notified now
[21:26] <Letozaf_> phillw, balloons :(   what should I have written ?
[21:27] <Letozaf_> Letozaf_, :P
[21:34] <balloons> Letozaf_, I think it was fine
[21:34] <balloons> dogwalking time for me :-)
[21:34] <balloons> have a wonderful weekend if I don't otherwise speak to you all
[21:35] <Letozaf_> balloons, enjoy the dogwalking :D
[21:37] <phillw> Letozaf_: does http://pastebin.com/0xsHeUBj make sense?
[21:37] <phillw> balloons: enjoy the weekend :)
[21:39] <Letozaf_> phillw, definitely it's written better :P
[21:39] <fetzed> Evening all =)
[21:40] <phillw> I did not fully understand what you were saying for a couple of re-reads. That phrasing adds it as a bug which affects auto-testing, with the bonus of it being useful in day to day use :)
[21:41] <phillw> evening fetzed :)
[21:42] <Letozaf_> phillw, should I put what you wrote in place of what I wrote ?
[21:42] <Letozaf_> phillw, I mean in the bug description ...
[21:43] <phillw> Letozaf_:  that is up to you, that is just my attempt at re-writing it so people reading it should be able to understand in one reading... It's your bug, not mine :)
[21:44] <Letozaf_> phillw, I asked before doing it, just to be polite :D
[21:45] <Letozaf_> phillw, thanks for your help !
[21:55] <fetzed> on http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1421/info when i submit a result it just bounces me around the page... is there somewhere else i should be submitting results?
[22:01] <phillw> fetzed: you are on the 'detail' of the test case, which page did you get to there from? that will be the page to report it on... E.g. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/39824/testcases gives me 3 test cases. I can get the detail on each test case (E.g. alternate is http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1439/info), but the result must be on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/39824/testcases
[22:01] <phillw> fetzed: does that make sense?
[22:01] <fetzed> yeah cheers matey, sorry ive had my head stuck in code all day =)
[22:02] <phillw> we all have days like that :)
[22:21] <fetzed> just to let you know the "Cadence Weeks" url has a " at the end so it take you to invalid url :P
[22:26] <phillw> fetzed: on what site?
[22:27] <fetzed> on top of this page [""Welcome to Ubuntu Quality | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam |  Cadence Weeks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Cadence/Raring/"]
[22:29] <phillw> fetzed: which page starts off as that?
[22:31] <fetzed> this IRC chat
[22:31] <fetzed> its the welcome status here =)
[22:32] <phillw> I cannot set the topic here.... dunno if stgraber is about?