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rsalvetihow the daily changelog will look: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5615219/, should be around tomorrow00:08
RobbyFwill it be on cdi site?00:08
rsalvetiyup00:09
rsalveticomparing with the previous build00:09
RobbyFare we able to get a raring build?00:09
rsalvetinot yet, in progress00:09
rsalvetiby progress I mean some packages are being pushed00:10
rsalvetionce we have enough (the most critical ones), we can do the switch00:10
rsalvetiand hopefully remove the need of a ppa as well00:10
RobbyFgotcha00:10
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RobbyFwill daily builds soon include daily-core-apps?00:11
krabadorrsalveti, where it's possible to watch ubuntutpuch changelog ?00:11
rsalvetiRobbyF: yup, soon (I also want them) :-)00:12
RobbyFhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/ should be in here I believe.00:12
rsalvetikrabador: it'll be available together with the images00:12
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mathomastechTrying to deploy an app to Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7. It's prompting for a password but not accepting the default "phablet" Anyone else run into this?00:31
RobbyFhow are you installing?00:33
mathomastechRobbyF: I am using QTcreator. It is seeing the device, and I can open ssh to it using the default password. but "Run on Device" or ctrl+f12 promps for a password. The "phablet" password works for the ssh connection but not the deploy to device connection00:34
RobbyFhmm. that i'm not sure of. sorry.00:35
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dank101it's may be YOUR computers root password00:47
matgeI just reported Launchpad bug 1155382 in qt-folks "[crash] QContactManager is accessed after deletion" [Undecided,New]  https://bugs.launchpad.net/qt-folks/+bug/115538200:48
ubot5Launchpad bug 1155382 in qt-folks "[crash] QContactManager is accessed after deletion" [Undecided,New]00:48
robrursalveti, hey, I'm trying to build qtvideo-node, but I can't seem to install two of the build deps (libhybris-dev and libqtubuntu-media-signals-dev) is there a special ppa for those that I'm missing?00:53
rsalvetirobru: the main ppa is https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa00:57
rsalvetiwhich you should find the needed packages00:57
dank101camera app?00:58
robrursalveti, thanks... I see libhybris there but not libhybris-dev. is there such a thing as libhybris-dev? perhaps qtvideo-node has broken build-deps...00:58
dank101is that real?00:59
rsalvetirobru: yup, at this view you can only find the source packages00:59
rsalvetiat https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+packages you can find the packages that hybris produces00:59
rsalvetijust open the tab00:59
robrursalveti, hmmm, that PPA warns that it will break my desktop! how am I supposed to build qtvideo-node... :-/01:00
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rsalvetirobru: right, you could build in a chroot, but still, problem is that the result will only be valid for the device (if you build for armhf)01:00
rsalvetimaybe qtvideo-node shouldn't depend on hybris at the desktop use case (i386, for example)01:01
robrursalveti, yeah, I'm not expecting to be able to run phablet stuff on my desktop; didrocks simply asked me to investigate some of the packaging of some of the phablet stuff, so I'm just trying to do a basic 'bzr bd' to make sure that stuff is buildable and correct... but I can't build qtvideo-node without libhybris-dev... so should I install libhybris-dev on my desktop or not? (i have no idea what it is)01:02
rsalvetirobru: libhybris is the package responsible for doing the symbol loading for the android libraries, it's useless for your host01:03
rsalvetiyou can install libhybris at your host, the problem with that ppa is if you enable and install some other packages01:03
rsalvetibbl01:04
echkowow01:11
echko??01:13
RobbyFhi01:14
echkowhats up01:14
RobbyFJust finished watching the Sam galaxy S4 event01:18
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juicyjonesRobbyF it was a sad horrifying cacophany IMO01:25
RobbyFI really liked it01:26
RobbyFbetter than the traditional events.01:27
dank101yeah01:27
dank101say I if your here and alive01:33
dank101I01:33
RobbyFI01:34
lilstevieJ01:35
dank101close enough01:35
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ptlhi02:42
ptlwhat is the ppa that has the core apps? I forgot, and I just reflashed my Nexus4...02:43
RobbyFppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily02:45
ptlRobbyF: thanks. But I just tried to instal them on the ubuntu touch device, did not work (did an apt-get update prior to install). Shouldn't it?02:55
RobbyFno02:56
RobbyFwell ya02:56
RobbyFwhat did you try to install02:56
RobbyFsudo apt-get install ubuntu-calculator-app02:56
ptlapt-get install ubuntu-calculator-app ubuntu-calendar-app etc...02:57
RobbyFit will install them02:57
RobbyFbut you need to run them from ssh/console still.02:57
RobbyFI'm not sure the correct commands to do that though.02:58
ptlnever mind. I installed software-properties-common but never added the ppa :P02:58
RobbyFI don't think you need to install that on the latest build.02:59
ptlhmm02:59
RobbyFhow do we run the app?03:00
ptlit seems we need to desktop_file_hint parameter03:02
ptlanyway03:02
ptlI added the repository and now it worked, I am going to install the apps03:02
RobbyFthere is a way to launch03:02
RobbyFjust not locally03:02
dank101any d2att/i747 user03:04
* dank101 needs a tester03:04
dank101anyone?03:11
ptlnot me03:15
dank101ok03:15
dank101my tester got back03:15
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dank101look under devices03:54
dank101https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#03:54
dank101search for AT&T03:54
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matgewhy do my qmlscene windows not appear in google hangout screenshare list?04:36
matgehas anyone else tried that?04:46
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BillyZanehi06:15
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Mrnerdok so i just got this error06:49
Mrnerdmake: *** No rule to make target `bacon'.  Stop.06:49
Mrnerdhow do i fix this?06:49
Mirvrsalveti: do you know who could refresh qtwebkit's add_experimentalDevicePixelRatio.patch patch on top of qtwebkit 5.0.1?06:51
dholbachgood morning07:29
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tvossdholbach, good morning :)07:40
dholbachhey tvoss07:40
tvosshey dholbach07:40
tvossdholbach, wanna give me a call?07:41
dholbachtvoss, I need to finish a few small things - how about in 30m?07:42
tvossdholbach, wfm07:42
dholbachperfect!07:42
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Androidjbhey. i'm trying to make a port of ubuntu touch for galaxy ace plus, but i don't have any cm.dependencies file, and can't understand what to do with the Android blobs07:58
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tvossdholbach, wanna jump over to #ubuntu-mir?08:48
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Mirvkaleo: so qt5-beta-proper has mostly Qt 5.0.1 identical packages for precise and quantal as raring has10:13
Mirvthe good question is when are touch image people starting to do builds against it, since I assume I can't simply copy those packages over to qt5-proper before some build testing has been done etc10:14
Kaleo_Mirv, though I'm wondering, is it a lot of work to backport the fix for SVG support?10:14
MirvKaleo_: not really, I just need to test build it first in some 3rd/4th repo, and then copy it over there. can be done.10:15
Mirvbackporting the packaging to the 5.0.0 sources10:15
Mirvkaleo: putting that to to-do-soon10:16
Mirv(as in today)10:16
Kaleo_Mirv, great!10:16
Kaleo_Mirv, designers will be happy to hear that10:16
ali1234Mirv: my sdk still doesn't work i think: http://imagebin.org/25035710:23
ali1234or is that how it's supposed to look?10:23
SkillyJust got the "Device detected as tilapia. Unsupported device, autodetect fails device" error installing to Nexus 7 3G10:28
Skillyresinstalling simmulating device as "grouper" instead of "tilapia"10:29
Skilly... hope this is compatible - anyone have experience10:29
dun1982Skilly you have openjdk6 or 7 installed to your workstation?10:34
Skillyyea - both10:34
dun1982I got very odd error messages without the jdk's installed and those are not in the phaplet dependency files. Ok, then no issues, cannot help u :(10:35
Mirvali1234: looks similar to mine10:35
Skillythanks dun1982. Seems tilapia is not yet supported10:36
Mirvthere might be changes brewing though, the plugin is very new10:36
Skillyquite widely reported via google - impersonating grouper is the reported workaround10:36
ali1234Mirv: shouldn't there be special mobile app templates? and target <> desktop?10:38
ali1234are the videos from yesterday up yet?10:46
netcurlithe recordings of the SDK days can be found on https://www.youtube.com/user/UbuntuOnAir10:51
Mirvjppiiroi1en: can you answer ali1234 about those?10:56
jppiiroi1enali1234, Mirv: http://www.youtube.com/user/UbuntuOnAir11:02
Mirvjppiiroi1en: I mean the templates vs mobile thing :)11:11
ali1234trying to see in the video :)11:12
ali1234oh he doesn't show it :(11:13
ali1234urgh11:14
jppiiroi1enali1234: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCOspJaZmpo11:17
jppiiroi1enmaybe that answers11:18
mainerrorGreat news! Because of a goddamn wind gust I dropped my Nexus 7 and now have a lot of small Nexus 7s ...11:24
eschatuslol11:24
mainerrorYea, 'cept it's not that funny from my angle.11:24
mainerrorMore like 200€ blown into the wind ... literally.11:25
eschatusI know, just the way you said it that was...11:25
eschatusNo insurance?11:25
eschatusSucks11:25
mainerrorIt was a used one, imported from Canada and I'm in Austria.11:26
mainerrorI hate the nature right now.11:26
doomlordmainerror is that an excuse to upgrade when the next one comes out in may11:31
mainerrorNot really ... bought mine only three months ago.11:31
doomlordheh ok frustrating11:32
doomlordi''m reluctant to buy top end mobile hardware eg laptops for this sort of reason. i have ended up liquid-damaging 2 laptops11:33
doomlordi'm clumsy11:33
mainerrorFirst time ever for me.11:33
mainerrorIf it wasn't for this 70km/h wind we have right now it would still be alive ...11:34
mainerrorAnyway ... what happened that happened. It's history.11:35
dsgDoes canonical plan to make the whole ubuntu phone stack, including end-user applications, free software? Or will some components be closed?11:36
dsg(I know they will not have authority over the kernel)11:36
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ali1234ah ok, looks like my qt creator is working correctly12:04
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ali1234hmm, i remember someone saying there's a port of EGL hello_triangle?12:25
ali1234any idea where i can find that?12:25
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Mirvkaleo: I wonder if you can briefly somehow test the new svg package before I copy it to qt5-proper?12:54
ogra_rsalveti, https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/session-manager/posix-rewrite/+merge/153542 ... happy reviewing :)12:57
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Mirvok, discussed the Qt SVG thing and copied it over to qt5-proper PPA13:32
Mirvie. it missed the support libraries, and I backported the fix to the 5.0.0 package13:32
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WebbyITHello everyone :) I'm new in the world of Launchpad and I want to understand how it works. I did a little bugfix (a stupid typo), then I committed the change, used dch -i to modify the changelog, pushed the branch and propose for merge, but they said me14:12
WebbyIT"Actually sorry, probably want to keep the changelog as UNRELEASED rather than targeting precise" (i'm on precise)14:12
WebbyITHow have i to modify changelog?14:13
WebbyITThanks for everyone that help me, and sorry for bad english!14:13
WebbyIThttps://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/phablet-tools/fix-for-1139999/+merge/15341914:13
paulk-desktoptvoss, ping14:20
tvosspaulk-desktop, pong14:25
paulk-desktoptvoss, I was wondering whether Ubuntu Touch would run fast enough without the non-free vendor blobs for graphics (gralloc, hwcomposer, EGL libs)14:26
tvosspaulk-desktop, I think the better question is: would it run at all? we do not have fallback software implementations of those components right now14:27
paulk-desktopthere are software implementations for all of these in Android14:27
paulk-desktopso you most likely have them too14:27
tvosspaulk-desktop, if they are readily usable, it is worth trying14:28
tvosspaulk-desktop, but I haven't checked myself on them14:28
paulk-desktopok14:28
tvosspaulk-desktop, can you give me a pointer to those implementations?14:28
paulk-desktoptvoss, hardware/libhardware/modules/14:28
paulk-desktopand sw EGL is in frameworks/base/14:28
paulk-desktopframeworks/base/opengl/libagl14:29
paulk-desktopand frameworks/base/opengl/libs14:29
ali1234there must be at least one video card where that stuff isn't proprietary14:29
paulk-desktopali1234, wanna bet?14:30
ali1234software implementation on arm isn't going to run well though14:30
paulk-desktopali1234, it does run well on Android14:30
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ali1234it might do if you just tell Qt to directly use it's own software rendering14:30
paulk-desktopok14:30
Stskeepsno-go on qtquick2 at least14:30
ali1234but software implementation at the very low levels is super slow14:30
ali1234just try running unity on llvm-pipe... it blows14:31
paulk-desktopok14:31
ali1234but unity-2d is fine and does pretty much the same thing14:31
ali1234just at higher level14:31
tvosspaulk-desktop, what problem are you trying to solve?14:31
paulk-desktoptvoss, the problem of proprietary software :)14:32
paulk-desktopI was just wondering whether you tried it already or not14:32
paulk-desktopso I guess it'll up to me for testing14:32
tvosspaulk-desktop, nope, we haven't looked into it14:32
paulk-desktop(I guess I'll wait until Ubuntu Touch becomes more clean and usable though)14:32
paulk-desktoptvoss, thanks for your answers then14:33
tvosspaulk-desktop, I'm looking for the opengl implementation right now, but cannot find it in that directory14:34
tvosspaulk-desktop, yw14:34
paulk-desktoptvoss, I'm pretty sure it's already in your system14:34
paulk-desktopthat's the 0 0 android config in egl.cfg14:34
paulk-desktop(which is most likely missing if you are based on CyanogenMod)14:34
tvosspaulk-desktop, looking at aosp right now, but I might be missing something14:35
tvosspaulk-desktop, got it, thanks14:35
paulk-desktopbut basically, if you wanna try, you can push that only line in egl.cfg (and remove the other one) and remove the vendor gralloc/hwcomposer14:35
paulk-desktopthat should do it14:35
matgeokey, back14:37
ricmmmatge: hey, I have a branch with the stuff we talked about but I havent pushed it anywhere, I'll set something up on github later14:39
ricmmlike keyboard docking and reflow of views with it14:39
matgericmm: that's cool!14:43
tvosskaleo, ping14:46
Kaleo_tvoss, pong14:53
loolrsalveti: I'm just realizing: could we make phablet-tools native instead of worrying about packaging changes vs. upstream changes and rolling tarballs and such?14:53
tvossKaleo_, you kaleo or his evil twin? :)14:53
Kaleo_tvoss, I'm both :)14:53
* tvoss hides away14:54
rsalvetilool: sure, but why the concern?14:54
ogra_lool, and while you're at it can you upload it to the archive too ? :)14:55
rsalvetiguess we'd need some more work before it hit the archive14:55
seb128lool, ogra_: better, get it to be added to the autolanding stack!14:55
rsalvetimove to python 3, for example14:55
ogra_seb128, as long as the end product lands in the archive i dont care how it got there :)14:56
loolrsalveti: when I did some uploads just before the mwc demo images went out, I did changes in the bzr branches which were considered upstream, but which got included in the .diff because there was an upstream tarball; eventually some time later Sergio rolled a new tarball; I found this to be unnecessarily complicated; similarly there's a merge proposal from another Ricardo to fix a typo, which is in the "upstream" code but uses a non-upstream version14:56
loolrsalveti: just having to worry about upstream vs. non-upstream changes feels weird here since the package essentially lives in Ubuntu right now14:57
rsalvetiMirv: I can rebase it, though I would really like to not need it14:57
loolit just crossed my mind that it ought to just be native14:57
loolseb128: yeah, that's a good point too14:57
loolseb128: how are native packages handled in autolanding?14:57
rsalvetiyeah, don't remember if it was a recommendation to not use native14:58
loolrsalveti: I guess it's a case of pinging Sergio when he's back?14:58
seb128lool, "well"?14:58
rsalvetithe recommended source format was 1, not native14:59
loolseb128: like the place you're throwing coins and make a wish?14:59
seb128lol14:59
rsalvetiguess seb128 might know more as well14:59
loolhe seems to know a lot about fetching water in the well14:59
seb128lool, does native/non-native makes any difference?15:00
seb128for daily landing you basically get a new tarball from the vcs for each landing15:00
loolseb128: upstream tarball vs. lack of one15:00
rsalvetiif we always bump the upstream version, it makes no difference15:00
loolok15:00
rsalvetiwhen creating new release15:00
loolrsalveti: let's discuss this with Didier in 1h15:00
seb128the daily landing does a "release" every day15:00
rsalvetiyeah15:01
rsalvetiogra_: did you see the changelog email?15:04
ogra_rsalveti, ah it drowned in the other mails, seeing it now .... and fioxing the sync script :)15:05
rsalvetiogra_: cool, thanks :-)15:06
ogra_rsalveti, did you see the merge request ? :)15:06
ogra_(its huge do it if you have some spare time)15:06
rsalvetiogra_: in my list15:06
ogra_awesome15:06
ogra_i'll take a hit on the other bash script in that branch too over the weekend15:06
ogra_though thats using even more arrays ... might take a bit more15:07
rsalvetiogra_: right, cool15:07
mterryslangasek, I was already here in fact.  Got lost in my channels15:07
ogra_but it will have a dircet impact on startup speed15:07
rsalvetiyeah, it's painful15:07
rsalvetiMirv: I suppose you want the package updated at the 5.0.1 based ppa?15:07
rsalvetiwonder if this should also be pushed to the archive15:08
mterryslangasek, so I have a WI to get qtubuntu in shape for autolanding, but it's only armhf because it requires android platform bits.  Are you familiar with the technical details there?   I'd be happy to help adjust it to work on i386 and amd64, but I'm not sure yet what bits it's relying on and thought I'd ask before diving into the code15:10
matgeHas there been discussion on how to do the online account plugins on the phone? They are now gtk based, which does not work currently15:11
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MrAdamDoes anyone know if USB host mode is working on the Nexus 4 with the current version of Ubuntu Touch?15:20
matgeMrAdam: I read that usb host mode is not supported by the hardware15:22
MrAdamOh well, that settles it then ^_^15:23
MrAdamThanks15:23
matgeMrAdam: but there are hardware hacks supplying the necessary voltage externally15:23
MrAdamMmh.. My old Galaxy Nexus had it. I just assumed the Nexus 4 did as well15:23
wastrelgalaxy nexus doesn't have usb host mode15:24
wastrelafaik15:24
wastrelit only uses mtp15:24
MrAdamIt does indeed have host mode15:25
MrAdamI used it in a few apps I've developed15:25
MrAdamIt was also possible to connect a USB drive to it and mount it15:25
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dholbachPLEASE NOTE: We're in the first session of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSDKDays15:34
dholbachyou can watch it live on http://ubuntuonair.com/15:34
dholbachand ask your questions in #ubuntu-app-devel15:34
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Mirvrsalveti: yes, and I already did with a very-certainly-not-perfect version of the patch, but I'd like to have a patch that is properly adjusted to apply on top of https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-beta-proper/+files/qtwebkit-opensource-src_5.0.1.orig.tar.xz15:37
Mirvrsalveti: what gets done in that packaging branch gets eventually pushed to archives as well15:37
rsalvetiMirv: alright, need to disable jit for arm as well I'd say, I'll review the patch/package later today15:38
rsalvetito make sure it's in sync with our own15:38
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Mirvrsalveti: I did that, although I haven't tested if it works15:40
rsalvetiMirv: ok, cool15:40
Mirvrsalveti: lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtwebkit-opensource-src15:40
Mirvso the device pixel ratio patch is mangled, should be replaced, and the disabling optimizations I modified to be arm only15:40
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Kaleo_kenvandine, libdee-qt5-dev does not seem to ship a .pc file anymore (looking at version 3.0-0ubuntu2~phablet1 in phablet-team/ppa/ubuntu)16:29
kenvandineSaviq, ^^16:29
kenvandineKaleo_, it does in my package in raring16:30
SaviqKaleo_, hum, checking16:30
Kaleo_kenvandine, I forgot to say, on armhf16:30
kenvandineKaleo_, Saviq just noticed yesterday that the lib is wrong16:30
Kaleo_kenvandine, sorry, forget that comment, it's there; I'm blind16:30
Kaleo_kenvandine, something else is wrong somehow16:30
kenvandinethe package in the phablet PPA is broken, we think16:31
Kaleo_kenvandine, ah yes on my amd64 laptop: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/libdee-qt5-3.pc16:31
Kaleo_kenvandine, on the phone: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/pkgconfig/libdee-qt5.pc16:31
Kaleo_no -316:31
Saviqtsdgeos, actually that might need another fix before the shell release ^16:32
Kaleo_kenvandine, I have version 3.0-0ubuntu1phablet5 on my laptop (probably older)16:32
SaviqKaleo_, btw, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/3028305/+listing-archive-extra is building with the fixed libname16:32
Kaleo_"sudo mv /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/pkgconfig/libdee-qt5.pc /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/pkgconfig/libdee-qt5-3.pc" fixes it for me :)16:33
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Saviqkenvandine, btw, you tricksed us with your dee-qt package in super-friends ;P16:36
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kenvandinewoops :)16:36
Saviqkenvandine, was > version than our phablet one ;)16:36
kenvandinesorry :)16:37
Saviqkenvandine, all fixed now16:37
kenvandinealthough it is less broken :)16:37
Saviqindeed16:37
kenvandinei guess that forces some rebuilds ;)16:37
kenvandinei've been trying to get everything in there so app developers can play after my SDK dev days session today16:37
tsdgeosSaviq: why do we have our own phablet branch for dee btw?16:37
Saviqtsdgeos, it has the deevarianttext merged16:38
Saviqpre the tests, though16:38
Saviqtsdgeos, so no processEvents() loop ;)16:38
tsdgeos:D16:38
slangasekmterry: hmm, what does "requires android platform bits" mean here?  I haven't looked in too much detail at the qtubuntu source, I think you want ChickenCutlass for that, but in general the androidiness should be cross-platform in that we don't actually have it in the archive on any arch :)16:53
slangasekmterry: however, the current qtubuntu code may have arm-specific assumptions in its own right - since IIRC this is one of the components that deals with libhybris16:54
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* ogra_ LOLs about the "how to enable mouse cursor" thread on the ML17:10
ogra_(why didnt i nothice it before ?)17:11
mterryAnyone familiar with running the unity/phablet autopilot tests?  I am getting errors about the autopilot interface not being available despite having autopilot-phablet installed17:17
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loologra_: reading your mp, I was wondering whether we should use upstart user sessions instead of the shell script spawning the processes17:29
lool(obviously that's raring only)17:29
ogra_lool, right, we should, though i'm not sure about the delays ... for now the most important bit is the use of ubunut-session.d, so i'd still like to see it being merged17:33
ogra_there is another /bin/bash script in that branch that really has a penalty to startup speed, i plan to look into that on the weekend17:34
ogra_(create-online-accounts)17:34
mterryrobru, kenvandine, cyphermox: have any of you messed with running autopilot tests for the phablet unity branch by any chance?17:41
ogra_lool, fixed :)17:43
robrumterry, no, sorry17:45
kenvandinemterry, i haven't17:48
dun1982ok, anyone who can help with networking (or missing network interface)?17:53
ogra_dun1982, got the module for your device ?17:54
dun1982Well I enabled wifi drivers from the kernel setup, so they should be compiled and deployed along with the rest of the kernel.17:58
dun1982Is there anyway to check if I have the drivers or not installed in the kernel?17:58
dun1982ie. lspci is not available and /etc/network/interfaces has only lo17:58
ogra_cat /proc/net/dev17:59
ogra_thats the most lowlevel way of checking for the device17:59
ogra_(at least the most lowlevel one i know)18:00
dun1982yup went there and the hardlink net does not point anywhere.18:01
dun1982cat /proc/net/dev18:01
dun1982cat: /proc/net/dev: No such file or directory18:01
ogra_mount /proc then :)18:01
dun1982should I mount it inside chroot or from android?18:02
dun1982ah, from android I get in to /proc :D18:02
ogra_right, /proc isnt mounted when you chroot18:02
ogra_so after chrooting, mount proc (i think the release notes say so)18:03
dun1982ah, I go and read the release notes then.18:03
dun1982I did not know that we had one :D18:03
ogra_ /topic18:04
ogra_;)18:04
loologra_: when you say the scripts are a penalty to startup speed, does it mean you have some boot charts somewhere?  just curious as I'm a bit surprized these would make a bit difference18:05
dun1982Btw, the release notes says that you should be in ssh-connection before running the mounting /proc.18:06
dun1982Kind like a egg chicken situation if you ask me...18:06
ogra_lool, nope, only gut feeling18:06
ogra_lool, the PID handling the script is crap btw ... since there are varous scripts that only firs once and start sub processes with different PIDs ... so after all we definitely want upstart18:07
froekdun1982, i mean, if I wanted to attach a flash drive or usb drive to my touch device, whether by plugging straight in or cracking the device open and soldering it on, is ubuntu going to recognize the size?  Theoretically is it possible, will ubuntu drivers pick it up.  Is the limitation in hardware or is it in the OS18:07
ogra_*fire18:07
froekdun1982,  (re: the requestion I asked yesterday)18:07
dun1982froek: sorry, I have no idea what are you asking :)18:08
dun1982ie. are you asking from me if you can solder a usb-key into your device?18:08
froeki'll try a different way18:08
froekI want to add storage to my touch device (somehow)18:08
froekwill the OS recognize the drive to it's fullest18:08
dun1982froek: well there is no such option I am afraid. If you do not know where to solder the device into.18:09
froekdun1982, lets say I do know where to solder it..18:09
dun1982Well then do you know from software level how to use the signals you are getting after the soldering?18:09
dun1982ie. after soldering I am quite sure your device does not pick up the new added hardware.18:10
dun1982Not at least automatically.18:10
dun1982Bit let's say you can replace exising memory cell with bigger one, that _might_ work :)18:11
froekdun1982, yeah, replacing existing is kinda where I'm going18:11
dun1982but seriously, I would still suggest to buy a device with sdcard place.18:11
froekI'm curious if there would be development required in order to further the drivers software, and not just the hardware which I know I'll be needing to do18:11
dun1982A lot simpler solution, otherwise I could not help you that much.18:11
froekno worries.. with SD yes, there is that option - but it's hard to get beyond say, 64GB18:12
froekI'm looking at a multiple of that18:12
froekI realize I'll need to do some hardware hacking, which is fine by me18:13
froekIs the touch version of ubuntu that different than the main Desktop/Server edition?18:13
dun1982eh, okay why would you in right mind go for more than let's say 32gb?18:13
froekumm, more of an exercise in fun to go beyond 32 :)18:14
dun1982yeah. it is not the desktop version, but thinned down version of broken software :)18:14
ogra_its bnot broken ... its just young :)18:14
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froekha, I see.  Is it possible to upgrade to full version using apt?18:14
dun1982froek: no18:14
dun1982ie. for you it might be better to try to port the desktop over the device you want to use :)18:15
froekhmm18:15
dun1982But the software and platorm is quite open, so I would imagine that anything is possible.18:16
dun1982But I have no answers for how to do what you want.18:16
froekNot a problem, you've helped me already18:16
dun1982And I do not think that there are that many others who want to do what you are trying to do, so you might need to find the answers alone :(18:16
froekwhere would I find the source for the touch specific os?18:16
froeki've got the developer preview tools installed18:17
froekbut is there a main code repo that is what makes up the touch OS?18:17
dun1982Hm... I have no idea where the touch source is available.18:17
dun1982I only know where to find the daily binaries.18:17
froekoh, where's that?18:18
froekI could probably track it down18:18
dun1982http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/18:18
froektx18:19
ogra_froek, you want /current18:20
froekcheers18:21
froekanyone here know who/where the "build" people are for ubuntu-touch images?18:22
ogra_they are little gnomes in automated buildservers18:23
* froek looks high and low18:23
ogra_froek, what do you want to know18:25
froekogra_, I'd like to pull the source tree and learn how those images are built, maybe even contribute back to the project18:26
ogra_froek, well, see the porting wikipage (channel topic)18:26
froekk18:26
froekogra_, thx18:27
ogra_the image is actually two parts ...18:27
ogra_one is the android base which is cross built from a modified CM tree ...18:27
ogra_the other is a typical ubuntu rootfs assembeld from debs18:27
froekI see that in the first paragraph of the porting page.. interesting18:27
froekinteresting18:27
ali1234it's kind of sad that the part everyone usually complains is not "open" enough, android, is currently easier to build from scratch than the "real" linux part18:28
froekso you're basically running a baseline android kernel, and then bootstrapping the ubuntu system underneath that18:28
ogra_ubuntu runs in a container18:29
ogra_using libhybris to access the android side and talk to the drivers18:29
froeknow, that container is not like the current hack to make ubuntu work on android is it?18:29
ogra_the android side is just the most minimal stuff you need to make the drivers work18:29
ogra_its a bit different, but similar18:29
ogra_there is work going on to actually move the android part into a container though18:30
ali1234what was decided for that?18:30
ogra_and use the ubuntu rootfs nativelz on top of the android kernel18:30
ogra_ali1234, research iirc18:30
ali1234so still undecided then?18:30
ogra_with ubuntu in LXC as fallback18:30
ogra_afaik yes, but i'm most likely not up to date18:31
ali1234all i know is what i saw at UDC session18:31
ali1234UDS*18:32
ogra_yeah, i think ChickenCutLass wass researching the container stuff18:33
froeki see18:33
ogra_and based on his freedback it will be decided18:33
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PeterIs ever going to be ubuntu touch for the htc thunderbolt??19:17
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dank101YO19:32
dank101does anyone have the march 3rd build?19:33
dank101i need it19:33
dank101anyone?19:33
ogra_it gets auto-deleted if there are more than two newer ones19:35
dank101anyone with a backup?19:35
dank101i need it so much right now19:36
dank101like over 900000000000000kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk times appreciated if you have a backup19:37
* ogra_ doesnt19:37
dank101:(19:38
dank101darn19:38
dank101guess i'll need to use http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip19:38
ogra_why is the 3rd so important ?19:38
Mavadois there a daily snapshot avaible?19:41
dank1013rd is the last one known to work on samsung devices19:42
ogra_dues to what exactly ?19:42
ogra_my i9100 works fine with daily dist upgrades here19:42
ogra_which should get me the same19:43
ogra_at least on the phjablet side19:43
ogra_*phablet19:43
MavadoIve got a samsung galaxy nexus :)19:43
Mavadoim installing it at the moment19:43
ogra_the daily ?19:43
Mavadobut it hangs for some reason at Pushing /home/ubuntu/Downloads/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip19:43
Mavadoah nevermind :) writing system.19:44
ogra_yeah, its quite slow to transfer19:45
Mavadoyep. took almost 6 minutes19:45
dank101samsung as in the new galaxy devices19:47
dank101all of the non-S2 or earlier don't like the new builds19:48
dank101"i killed 3 pigs today working on this"19:49
Mavadodoes Mobile Data work now_19:49
Mavado?19:49
ogra_nope19:49
ogra_dank101, pigs arent enough... zou need a male dragon19:50
ogra_*you19:50
dank101and 5 dragons19:50
dank101female and male19:50
ogra_whats the issue you see ?19:51
dank101blackscreening19:52
dank101no GUI19:52
dank101Never loads19:52
ali1234what about SGS?19:52
ogra_any logs19:52
dank101posted to the mail list about 66666666 times19:52
ogra_my SGS2 works fine here19:52
ogra_not sure about other models ...19:53
ogra_but i know the guy rilling the device image had to jump through some hoops to roll back the mali driver19:53
ogra_*folling19:53
ogra_bah19:53
ogra_*rolling19:53
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dun1982Oh man, I have no idea what to do with the damn image. Now I have included both old Mali driver and wifi drivers, but not screen nor network drivers are available after boot.20:28
ogra_which wifi driver is that ?20:30
ogra_dhd ?20:30
dun1982ath6kl20:34
dun1982# Wifi20:35
dun1982BOARD_WLAN_DEVICE                := ath6kl20:35
dun1982WPA_SUPPLICANT_VERSION           := VER_0_8_X20:35
dun1982BOARD_WPA_SUPPLICANT_DRIVER      := NL8021120:35
dun1982BOARD_WPA_SUPPLICANT_PRIVATE_LIB := lib_driver_cmd_ath6kl20:35
dun1982WIFI_DRIVER_MODULE_PATH          := "/system/lib/modules/ath6kl.ko"20:35
dun1982WIFI_DRIVER_MODULE_NAME          := ath6kl20:35
dun1982WIFI_DRIVER_LOADER_DELAY         := 100000020:35
dun1982BOARD_HAVE_SAMSUNG_WIFI          := true20:35
ogra_does /system/lib/modules/ath6kl.ko exist ?20:35
dun1982Do you mean in the image which I have booted or in the out/target/product/p6800 folder?20:37
ogra_in youtr running phone indeed20:38
dun1982There is no modules folder under system :)20:38
dun1982Should I be worried?20:38
ogra_i wonder if your flashing worked then20:38
dun1982Filesystem               Size     Used     Free   Blksize20:38
dun1982/mnt/secure            390M     0K   390M   409620:38
dun1982/mnt/asec              390M     0K   390M   409620:38
dun1982/mnt/obb               390M     0K   390M   409620:38
dun1982/data/ubuntu/dev       390M    48K   389.9M   409620:39
dun1982/data/ubuntu/run       390M    44K   390M   409620:39
dun1982/data/ubuntu/run/shm   390M    76K   389.9M   409620:39
dun1982/data/ubuntu/run/lock     5M     0K     5M   409620:39
dun1982/data/ubuntu/system    818.9M   168.8M   650.1M   409620:39
dun1982/data/ubuntu/vendor    818.9M   168.8M   650.1M   409620:39
dun1982/data/ubuntu/data       12.9G     5.8G     7.1G   409620:39
dun1982Did that come all the way?20:39
* ogra_ points to paste.ubuntu.com 20:39
ogra_with both hands ...20:39
dun1982http://paste.ubuntu.com/5617633/20:39
dun1982I need to go for a moment now.20:40
ogra_well, /system should have been filled with your build ...20:40
ogra_and should definitely contain the ath6kl.ko file20:40
dun1982Be back in ~1h or going to sleep anyway :) See u when I'm around next time.20:40
ogra_enjoy20:41
dun1982http://paste.ubuntu.com/5617636/20:41
dun1982There is my system folder. I think I need to check if I have to upload the system folder by hand there...20:41
ogra_and /system/lib/modules ?20:41
ogra_no, that should al happen from the autodeploy.zip20:42
ogra_you shouodnt need to upload anything beyond that20:42
dun1982http://paste.ubuntu.com/5617639/20:42
ogra_ath6kl.ko20:43
ogra_there you go20:43
dun1982So what do I do with that20:43
dun1982`?20:43
ogra_so go out of the container to android and do:20:43
ogra_insmod /system/lib/modules/ath6kl.ko20:43
dun1982Ah thx, I'll try that next.20:44
ogra_then cat /proc/net/dev again ... and you should see a wlan0 or so20:44
dun1982should that be automatically done?20:44
ogra_android usually does that from init.$devicename.rc20:44
ogra_for me the line to load the wifi module was missing in the CM tree, i had to add it20:45
kheeperHi people!20:56
kheeperIt's there latest rom for gt-i9300 I wanna tested20:57
kheeper*test it20:58
mterrymzanetti, alright, I've double-confirmed that autopilot-phablet isn't quite working (or something isn't).  I set up a new VM, only did ./build -s and installed autopilot-phablet.  Still I get the error about the autopilot interface20:58
ogra_kheeper, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices20:58
mzanettimterry: it works here and in jenkins... very likely to be something with your setup20:59
dank101not out for the i930020:59
kheeperI know it's not out for i930021:00
mzanettimterry: does it still say "Loading testability driver" when you launch it with -testability?21:00
kheeperjust was asking if there is some beta version21:00
mterrymzanetti, hrm, yes.  But then immediately segfaults  :-/21:01
mterryMaybe that's the real issue.  But I don't know why it would.  This is a clean setup21:02
mzanettimterry: hmm... and it does not segfault when you start it without -testability?21:02
mterrymzanetti, it also segfaults then21:02
dank101no21:03
mterryseems to be loading libUnity-qml.so21:03
mzanettimterry: then you have probably libunity-core not up to date21:03
mzanettimterry: you need the version from the phablet-team ppa21:03
mterrymzanetti, the build script is designed to point to a version built from bzr21:03
mzanettimterry: be aware that isntalling that kills old unity for now21:03
mzanettimterry: I haven't ever ran that script so far21:03
mterrymzanetti, well, I'm running libunity-core from bzr21:04
mzanettifrom lp:unity/phablet-mods ?21:05
mzanettimterry: ^21:05
mterrymzanetti, yes21:06
mzanettimterry: hmm.. that should work I guess. haven't tried that so far. I'm using the libunity-core from the phablet-team/ppa21:07
mzanettimterry: which should be built from that one afaik21:07
* mterry is tired of trying to get unity/phablet in a working state21:09
mterryaha...  hmm21:10
dun1982Heh, can someone tell me what the heck is wrong...21:10
mterryI bet I and the autopilot script are both not setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH21:11
ogra_dun1982, well, did you try the things above ?21:11
dun1982http://paste.ubuntu.com/5617704/21:11
dun1982yeah...21:11
dun1982Check what happened :)21:11
ogra_funny21:12
dun1982yeah, that was my first reaction too...21:12
dun1982Well, if this would have been easy, it would not be called compiling kernel :)21:12
ogra_so next thing ... modinfo  /system/lib/modules/ath6kl.ko21:13
mterrymzanetti, yup, I get farther by manually setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH when running tests (duh).21:13
ogra_check what parameters the module takes21:13
dun1982Man, I start feeling that 15 days is enough when trying to figure out how to get the basic necesities working with the device, so that I could try out the preview version of this os :)21:13
ogra_there might be something like a firmware= parameter or so that you need to point to the right binary blob21:14
dun1982ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5617707/21:14
ogra_ah, so it has hardcoded paths21:15
dun1982ok, where in the build process configuration is that enabled?21:15
ogra_athwlan.bin is what you want to find i would guess21:15
ogra_likely in the extracting of the binary blobs21:16
dun1982ok, did this, waiting now results: root@android:/ # find / -name athwlan.bin21:16
dun1982ok, there is no such file in anywhere in the booted image.21:16
ogra_some drivers take a firmware= parameter ... others just have hardcoded paths they try to load from ... and there are some where you have to echo the firmware file into a sysfs path21:17
dun1982I'll check if any of the files are available in the image I flashed to my system.21:17
ogra_well, look in your device tree on the PC21:17
ogra_it could even be that they are included into the .ko file at compile time, though that would be a GPL violation i think21:18
dun1982$ find . -name athwlan.bin21:19
dun1982£21:19
ogra_21:19
dun1982So no athwlan.bin anywhere in the whole repository.21:19
dun1982I did run that command in the repository root.21:19
ogra_but you extracted the binary blobs when setting it up ?21:19
dun1982Yeah I did.21:20
dun1982And I'm running cm-10.1 build in my device.21:20
ogra_well, flash cm 10.1 and look exactly what that does then21:20
dun1982my kernel and device threes are based on the original cm-10.1 repositories and I have asked help also from the maintainers of those repos.21:20
ogra_if wlan works you should be able to find out how it does that by liooking at all the things we went through today21:21
dun1982ok, let's see what that turns out then.21:21
dun1982thx anyway. You are one patient teacher :)21:21
ogra_looking at init.rc for an insmod line ... looking for the blobs etc etc21:21
dun1982ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5617731/21:29
dun1982This is from cm-10.1 and I have connected it actually to my wlan as well.21:29
dun1982How ever ifconfig or iwconfig do not give any devices...21:30
dun1982But...  wlan0: 52194043   34276    0    0    0     0          0         0  1405594   19763    0    0    0     0       0          021:30
ogra_well, look for the binary blobs .. have a look at init.rc21:33
ogra_i.e.21:33
ogra_grep insmod /init*.rc21:33
dun1982Yeah, I'm just looking into there.21:33
mterryHrmm...   now I'm getting the Music page instead of the Home page by default21:33
ogra_to find all insmod lines in all init.rc files21:33
dun1982root@android:/ # grep -ir insmod /init*.rc21:34
dun19821|root@android:/ #21:34
ogra_intresting21:35
dun1982say to least...21:35
ogra_does ldmos show any modules loaded ?21:35
ogra_err21:35
ogra_lsmod21:35
dun1982root@android:/ # lsmod21:35
dun1982ath6kl 204531 0 - Live 0x0000000021:35
ogra_well, something loaded it21:35
dun1982let's see what happens if I grep that aht6kl.ko :)21:35
dun1982or just ath6kl21:36
ogra_its a binary ... grep wont help much21:36
ogra_"strings" would21:36
ogra_but i doubt android ships that21:36
dun1982I have the ath6kl source if that is any help21:37
dun1982It needed to be included in kernel build btw.21:37
dun1982There was no blobs for it. So it is actually build along the kernel.21:37
dun1982https://github.com/dun1982/android_hardware_atheros_wlan21:38
dun1982I had to include it to my manifest.xml because my images were failing without it.21:38
ogra_thats only wpa_supplicant stuff21:39
ogra_not kernel21:39
dun1982But isnt the wpa_supplicant compiled in kernel build.21:39
dun1982This is the full kernel source: https://github.com/dun1982/android_kernel_samsung_p6800/tree/v0.321:40
dun1982That is the source that was compiled for my current test image.21:40
dun1982The v0.3 where the only difference where the added ath6kl drivers with that wpa-supplicant stuff in the manifest.xml.21:41
ogra_https://github.com/dun1982/android_kernel_samsung_p6800/tree/v0.3/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath6kl21:42
ogra_thats your driver21:42
ogra_did you search for the binary blobs on CM already ?21:47
dun1982nope21:49
dun1982where does those binary blobs go which the extract-files.sh load?21:55
ogra_no idea, its usually described in the proprietary*.txt files21:57
dun1982hm... if my find command did actually find the file, they are deposit to either out/.. or nowehere.21:58
dun1982http://paste.ubuntu.com/5617792/21:59
ogra_no, i mean the binary blobs ... and i mean on your running CM21:59
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dank101http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191235&page=222:09
ogra_dank101, and it just works flawless with the mwc-demo ?22:16
ogra_(or dailies from before the 3rd)22:16
dank101i think22:16
ogra_you think or you know ?22:16
dank101think22:16
dank101worked on the VZW S322:17
ogra_then test with the mwc-demo to prove your theory first :)22:17
dank101ok22:17
dank101ADB works on all of them GUI only works  on the dailies before22:18
ogra_right, so your android side is at least basically functional22:18
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marioushello. it possible install ubuntu on  a tablet that does not has android,  any link that can help me ? thanks23:14
dank101impossible23:17
dank101unless android is ported23:17
dank10199999999999999999999999999999999999999% impossible23:17
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RobbyFAnything interesting today?23:29
RobbyFI couldn't catch any of the SDK stuff23:29
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