[01:17] <jcastro> rick_h_4: hey, offhand, which lp team is working on maas?
[10:36] <rick_h_> jcastro: red I believe but they're trying to get off of it and move on I think
[11:58] <dzho> good morning, all my fine nerdsibs
[12:31] <snap-l> Morning
[13:05] <rick_h_> morn
[14:16] <snap-l> Hnging out at the doctor's office with JoDee and her dad
[14:16] <brousch> Sounds like fun
[14:17] <snap-l> totally
[14:17] <snap-l> apparently the VPN doesn't work over my phone
[14:17] <rick_h_> doh
[14:18] <snap-l> Yeah, though ssh to my machine seems to be working OK
[14:21] <rick_h_> on ssh to rule them all
[14:23] <snap-l> Using X windows to run rdesktop on my home machine
[14:23] <snap-l> I swear, ifer take that away, I'll ragequit. ;)
[14:24] <snap-l> s/ifer/if they ever/
[14:25] <rick_h_> bah, no X required :P
[14:27] <snap-l> SHow me something else that can do what X does wihtout pre-thinking it, and I'll switch. :)
[14:27] <snap-l> You'll takem my ssh -X from my cold dead fingers.
[14:28] <rick_h_> http://pycon.timvideos.us/
[14:28] <snap-l> Also, this fucking flash intro at work needs to die in a fire
[14:29] <snap-l> I'm wasting bandwidth just to display our outdated mission statement
[14:29] <rick_h_> hah, well good luck with that
[14:29] <snap-l> *rolls eyes*
[14:30] <snap-l> If it didn't have this dippy animation
[14:41] <rick_h_> ummm no comment http://r.bmark.us/u/13fc0473487827
[14:46] <snap-l> Y'know... ;)
[14:46] <snap-l> Why do people call Shuttleworth Shuttlecock?
[14:47] <rick_h_> because everyone likes a little ... nope...didn't go there
[14:47] <snap-l> badminton?
[15:08] <snap-l> Seriously, there's some lady here who chose to sit right next to me and talk
[15:11] <snap-l> Thank Christ her ride showed up
[15:11] <rick_h_> lol
[15:11] <snap-l> Love explaining that I'm at work.
[15:11] <rick_h_> headphones ftw
[15:11] <snap-l> "What would you do without all that?"
[15:11] <snap-l> "I'd be in an office"
[15:11] <rick_h_> big giant open ear'd over the head headphones
[15:11] <snap-l> ergo STFU
[16:27] <greg-g> made my first comment in gerrit.wikimedia.org !
[16:29] <brousch> I DON'T CARE IF YOUR HUSBAND IS IN THE ICU, LADY. I'M TRYING TO DEBUG THIS CODE!
[16:36] <brousch> Ug. converting between metric and architectural length units is the biggest PITA on this whole project so far
[16:42] <greg-g> wait, there's "architectural units" now? not just metric and stupid, er, "english"?
[16:57] <brousch> Well it's imperial in a specific format
[16:58] <brousch> 3' 2-7/8"
[16:58] <brousch> Like that
[16:58] <brousch> The draftsmen need that format, the software needs mm
[16:58] <greg-g> don't crash your building on the surface of mars
[16:59] <rick_h_> snap-l: Blazeix remind me to bring this up to the new people at CHC if they're back next week. http://trizpug.org/boot-camp/pyohio13
[17:34] <snap-l> Got my System 76 stickers.
[17:34] <rick_h_> awesome
[17:35] <snap-l> brousch: More like she was saying she had a clean bill of health, and she was waiting for her ride, and oh, that's a fancy setup you have there. People all over with their noses in their laptops and cellphones and...
[17:36] <snap-l> "Oh, you can work with that? Well we should just get you a desk and..."
[17:38] <snap-l> Dear lady, please don't make me kill you in your sleep
[17:38] <snap-l> hugs and kisses, me
[17:42] <rick_h_> hah, "please learn perl before it dies..." http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1aczh1/perl_the_language_everybody_wants_to_declare_dead/
[17:43] <rick_h_> is how it reads more than "look I'm not dead yet"
[17:45] <snap-l> Big fan of Perl but frankly I'd rather not deal with it anymore
[17:45] <snap-l> yes, I said it
[17:45] <snap-l> Python has spoiled me
[17:46] <snap-l> And any benefit Perl 6 or 5.10+ might have is immaterial when I can do "pip install (current thought)" and keep moving
[17:47] <snap-l> What the... linuxadvocates?
[17:48] <snap-l> APparently comp.os.linux.advocacy escaped and is now wild on the web
[17:49] <snap-l> I <3 his example btw.
[17:49] <snap-l> $ perl -pi  -e “tr/[a-z]/[A-Z]/” sample.txt
[17:50] <snap-l> as opposed to "string".upper()
[17:57] <rick_h_> :)
[18:17] <brousch> My friend works at Booking.com (priceline) and he says they're hiring a dozen perl developers
[18:17] <brousch> In the netherlands
[18:19] <snap-l> That's nice
[18:19] <snap-l> sf.net uses Perl for their sysadmin
[18:20] <snap-l> I'm not saying it isn't used anymore, I'm saying I'd rather be using Python. :)
[18:20] <rick_h_> :( the sadness continues http://r.bmark.us/u/6e404a5316179d
[18:20] <snap-l> Give me a fucking break
[18:21] <snap-l> Not only has work begun to offer the community alternatives to Reader specifically (save us Digg!), work is being done on the other pieces of the RSS infrastructure, as well.
[18:21] <rick_h_> if rss dies I'm going to be very sad...and the new gopher of the internet
[18:21] <snap-l> Save us Digg? Seriously?
[18:21] <snap-l> That's like asking a lead weight to take you to the surface
[18:22] <brousch> Damn, I didn't know about that
[18:22] <snap-l> I still have it
[18:23] <snap-l> The RSS extension
[18:23] <rick_h_> yea, but try to find it in the store
[18:23] <snap-l> Yeah, lovely
[18:23] <rick_h_> it's a small thing, but sad still
[18:23] <snap-l> Hoping it's clerical error, and not a sign of things to come
[18:24] <snap-l> though frankly that extension is janky
[18:24] <brousch> Is anyone setting up an instance of newsblur?
[18:24] <brousch> I might give a go if I can find time this weekend
[18:24] <rick_h_> no, if I did anythign I'll to feedhq and start hacking on it
[18:25] <rick_h_> /to/do
[18:25] <brousch> But djangoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[18:26] <rick_h_> feedhq is django :P
[18:26] <brousch> So how is it better than newsblur?
[18:26] <rick_h_> and while not pretty the UI hasn't been hit with a 'let's just add one more stupid flashing control/button" yet
[18:26] <rick_h_> /yet/stick
[18:27] <brousch> Looks weird
[18:27] <rick_h_> man all of these are just horrid UX-wise. makes me cry
[18:27] <brousch> The font or size of the page is annoying
[18:28] <rick_h_> on which one? or both of them?
[18:28] <brousch> feedhq
[18:28] <rick_h_> yea, it needs love as well. At least though it's less busy/crazy to start with
[18:29] <brousch> Does it have an Android client?
[18:29] <rick_h_> it's WEB
[18:29] <rick_h_> forget stupid phone clients. Just use a decent webui...if one of them could fix their UX
[18:29]  * rick_h_ won't start writing an app...will not...
[18:30] <brousch> I can see you writing phonegap apps
[18:30] <rick_h_> no no no no...it'd be http://nonsuckyrss.com
[18:30] <rick_h_> be responsive, and it's be swipe/touch friendly for mobile peeps
[18:30] <rick_h_> without so damn many buttons on them
[18:30] <brousch> heh
[18:31] <brousch> I still think it could be hacked on to bookie, maybe even just using the api
[18:31] <rick_h_> heh, trust me. I've thought about it. And if I did write something I'd end up sharing web ui components between them for sure
[18:32] <rick_h_> but it doesn't fit the bookie backend very well at all
[18:32] <brousch> Scrape feeds, add them all to my bookie with an unread tag. Pull out the unreads, read them with breadable, remove unread tag (and delete)
[18:32] <rick_h_> and here you definitely want to share feed data. with bookmarks, and logins, your page might look different than my bookmark'ed page
[18:32] <rick_h_> but not so with public rss feeds
[18:33] <rick_h_> man I wish my wife's student loans were gone. I'd almost quit and start hacking.
[18:33] <rick_h_> I did think about pulling newsblur and seeing if I could get a link in for 'save to Bookie' for feed items you awnt to bookmark
[18:34] <brousch> But if bookie is the reader, it's already bookmarked before you do anything
[18:34] <brousch> You would autobookmark every article in your feeds
[18:34] <rick_h_> yea, but now you've got a ton of crap that's not a cultured set of bookmarks
[18:35] <brousch> Right, so delete the stuff you don't want to save and add tags to the stuff you want to keep
[18:36] <brousch> Like email!
[18:36] <rick_h_> lol
[18:36] <brousch> Bookie is my new email client
[21:35] <rick_h_> Blazeix: http://r.bmark.us/u/d2cb7eca19a7ea
[21:45] <brousch> Say a talk on that at GRDevDay. It looked pretty interesting
[21:47] <rick_h_26> too much magic for my tastes
[21:50] <brousch> Saves a crapload of code
[21:51] <brousch> I like that google uses it extensively
[23:15] <snap-l> JoDee's sick. Caught her watching the old Battlestar Galactica series voluntarily.
[23:15] <snap-l> Now she's watching some show called NYC Prep.
[23:17] <rick_h_26> uh oh
[23:25] <brousch> snap-l: Alzheimer's?
[23:31] <rick_h_26> dammit I'm sitting here folding laundry thinking of ways to do RSS items with detecting dupes and building intelligent prioritizing of unread content.
[23:32] <brousch> My plan is working. Get the rick_h_ wetware working on a problem and it will be solved!
[23:39] <greg-g> :)
[23:40] <greg-g> you know, instead of being all NIH, maybe chip in with NewsBlur, it does the intelligent prioritization part already... (yeah, you could build a new interface for it...)
[23:40] <greg-g> ;)
[23:45] <rick_h_26> I looked but just not a fan. I've downloaded feedhq and started looking at the source.
[23:46] <rick_h_26> but my points aren't  Nih just working thoughts out in my head ;)
[23:46] <jcastro> NIH! NIH! is the new "Send me a patch"
[23:51] <rick_h_26> jcastro this Google cloud article is cool.
[23:51] <rick_h_26> http://r.bmark.us/u/86747a3302e585 for others
[23:53] <jcastro> yep
[23:53] <rick_h_26> can't wait to test it out when it open source
[23:53] <rick_h_26> opens up that is
[23:53] <rick_h_26> stupid keyboard completion
[23:55] <jcastro> why are you _26?
[23:56] <brousch> I think we need a Google Reader replacement that you can deploy to Google App Engine in the free tier.
[23:57] <jcastro> or just write a charm?
[23:57] <jcastro> and use every free tier?
[23:57] <rick_h_26> jcastro because the tablet loses connection/reconnects sometimes
[23:57] <jcastro> what does the 26 mean?
[23:57] <brousch> jcastro: That misses the irony of it
[23:58] <rick_h_droid> it's just a random number it uses. hmm seems it didn't auth