[05:32] <Kilos> morning all
[05:55] <Symmetria>  :( good-evil-time-when-horrible-ball-of-fire-appears-in-the-sky 
[05:57] <Kilos> ?
[05:59] <Symmetria> lol 
[05:59] <Symmetria> you said morning :)
[05:59] <Symmetria> morning = evil-time-when-horrible-ball-of-fire-appears-in-the-sky
[06:34] <Kilos> ah
[06:35] <Kilos> dont forget to chat to Fanie please Symmetria
[06:35] <Kilos> oh now i catch it
[06:35] <Kilos> sorry im so slow
[06:36] <Kilos> thought you saw something online again
[06:54] <superfly> wee! winter in cape town again
[06:57] <Kilos> hi superfly jrgns
[06:57] <inetpro> good morning
[06:58] <superfly> hi inetpro, Kilos
[06:58]  * Kilos greets inetpro
[06:58] <jrgns> morning Kilos, all
[07:16] <Kilos> we wait for vince and his happy friday
[07:17] <Kilos> aw its thursday
[07:18] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:37] <Kilos> hi henkj
[07:39] <henkj> hi kilos
[08:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[08:18] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[09:04] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[09:14] <psyatw> hi Kilos 
[09:14] <psyatw> I've been away for some time, I have no internet at my father's place
[09:15] <psyatw> how have you been?
[09:15] <Kilos> well ty and you?
[09:16] <psyatw> I'm also ok, thanks
[09:17] <Kilos> good. meeting monday evening here or will you be offline still?
[09:17] <psyatw> I'm using this absence from the internet to study some stuff that I've wanted to learn for quite some time
[09:17] <Kilos> thats good
[09:18] <psyatw> I'm afraid I usually can't make it on monday evenings, but I will try to see if I can be here at my friend's office for a little longer
[09:19] <Kilos> cool
[10:55] <zeref> hmmmmm
[11:13] <magespawn> afternoon y'all
[11:15] <magespawn> hey zeref
[11:41] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[11:51] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[12:26] <magespawn> how is this an it job http://itjobs.mybroadband.co.za/jobs/executive-sous-chef-1758067/
[13:00] <theblazehen> hi all, Kilos 
[13:00] <zeref> allo
[13:15] <griffin_> Hi kilos
[13:33] <Kilos> ohi griffin_
[13:33] <Kilos> and theblazehen
[13:37] <Kilos> Maaz: announce Meeting monday night all of you. Don't forget please
[13:37] <Maaz> Kilos: Go get it yourself!
[13:37] <theblazehen> lol.
[13:37] <Kilos> oh my
[13:38] <Kilos> inetpro: fix him
[13:45] <Kilos> hi tumbleweed what needs fixing with maaz please?
[13:45] <tumbleweed> Kilos: what's wrong with him?
[13:45] <Kilos> and QA also dont do the announce thiong
[13:45] <Trixar_za> Oh right
[13:45] <tumbleweed> oh, announce
[13:45] <tumbleweed> Maaz: literal announce
[13:45] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Sorry...
[13:45] <Trixar_za> Hey guys. Why isn't there a #python-za channel? :?
[13:45] <tumbleweed> Maaz: literal announce $1
[13:45] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Sorry...
[13:46] <tumbleweed> Trixar_za: there's #ctpug
[13:46] <Trixar_za> I'm idling in #python, so I've noticed other countries has a specialized channel for it
[13:47] <Trixar_za> or maybe it's just linguistically based
[13:47] <tumbleweed> quite likely, yes
[13:47] <tumbleweed> oh, of course:
[13:47] <tumbleweed> Maaz: literal announce $arg
[13:47] <Maaz> tumbleweed: 1: <reply> Announcement from $who! $1, 2: <reply> Hear ye, hear ye! $1
[13:47] <tumbleweed> that should work
[13:47] <Kilos> yay ty tumbleweed. what made then forget that
[13:47] <tumbleweed> he didn't forget it
[13:48] <tumbleweed> Maaz: fish please
[13:48] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Go get it yourself!
[13:48] <tumbleweed> Maaz: literal $arg please
[13:48] <Maaz> tumbleweed: 1: <reply>$who: Go get it yourself!
[13:48] <tumbleweed> ^ there's your problem
[13:48] <tumbleweed> Maaz: forget $arg please
[13:48] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Okay
[13:48] <tumbleweed> Kilos: try again now
[13:49] <Kilos> Maaz: announce Meeting monday evening all. please be here>
[13:49] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos! Meeting monday evening all. please be here>
[13:49] <Kilos> ty tumbleweedill try sort QA the same way
[13:49] <tumbleweed> Kilos: QA probably doesn't have that please factoid
[13:50] <tumbleweed> Kilos: and probably doesn't have an anounce factoid, either
[13:50] <tumbleweed> so teach him about announce
[13:50] <Kilos> oh
[13:50] <Kilos> oh ok ty
[15:07] <james_n7> helloo :P :)
[15:10] <Kilos> hi james_n7
[15:11] <james_n7> Extreme noob here :P
[15:11] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[15:12] <Kilos> we are here to help if you have probs
[15:12] <Kilos> just sometimes you gotta be patient
[15:12] <Kilos> the brainy guys are a busy breed
[15:13] <james_n7> lol indeed ;) Not a big ubuntu user actually... Mostly Arch
[15:14] <Kilos> the guys here help with all linux distros
[15:14] <inetpro> Kilos: don't fear when the weed is near
[15:15] <Kilos> hehe
[15:15] <Kilos> yip thank heavens
[15:16] <james_n7> :P What is zenity? Wanting to instal mate, but says conflicts with zenity... dont want to remove it if its important
[15:18] <Kilos> james_n7: you wanna install mate into unity?
[15:18] <Kilos> it just installs fine normally
[15:18] <james_n7> adding it to arch... Unfimiliar with the term unity, sorry Kilos
[15:19] <Kilos> oh sorry unity is the ubuntu interface
[15:19] <Kilos> but i am using mate here on lubuntu
[15:20] <Kilos> just install it. you can always go back and install zenity again if you arent happy
[15:20] <james_n7> lol i dont have ubuntu... my Arch is currently on my usb :) 
[15:21] <Kilos> ah and you want to install mate there as well
[15:21] <james_n7> well what is zenity? :)
[15:22] <james_n7> is it a component of gnome
[15:22] <Kilos> i dont know arch at all and the chappy that does has gone off already
[15:22] <Kilos> lemme look
[15:23] <Kilos> does arch have a package manager?
[15:23] <james_n7> oh i see... :P Wel no probs, will uninstall and if i need it, will make a plan :)
[15:23] <james_n7> Pacman? :)
[15:24] <Kilos> it says its display graphical dialogue boxes
[15:24] <Kilos> but mate does all of that
[15:24] <Kilos> mate installs lotsa stuff
[15:25] <james_n7> I mainly use enlightenment... so as long as it doesnt affect that, then no problem :)
[15:26] <Kilos> try be here monday evening at 19.30 we have our monthly meeting
[15:26] <james_n7> Kilos: Thanks for the help :)
[15:26] <Kilos> yw visit more often 
[15:27] <james_n7> ah will try :) Thanks :) theblazehen is my mentor lol, hes currently unavailable so i thought i'd come chat to you guys... :)
[15:27] <Kilos> anytime we are always here
[15:28] <james_n7> Thanks :D 
[15:48] <magespawn> home time later all
[15:58] <smile4ever> hi :D
[15:58] <smile4ever> magespawn: hi or bye? :p
[16:44] <inetpro> Kilos: en waar kom die lekker donderstorm vandaan?
[16:44] <Kilos> lekker ne
[16:44] <inetpro> baie
[16:45] <Kilos> hi smile4evertrix
[16:45] <Kilos> ai Trix[a]r_za
[16:45] <Kilos> inetpro: how do i make konversation add the space after tab complete
[16:46] <Kilos> only adds the space if one starts with the nick
[16:47] <inetpro> Kilos: huh?
[16:47] <inetpro> why you want a space when there's no nick? 
[16:48] <Kilos> ok look inetprohow do you see this
[16:48] <Tonberry> this is normal
[16:48] <Kilos> inetpro: is a nick
[16:48] <Kilos> xchat adds the space there
[16:48] <Kilos> like if you greet more than one peep
[16:49] <inetpro> hmm....
[16:49] <inetpro> should do the same by default
[16:50] <Kilos> ok lets see inetproton
[16:50] <Kilos> see
[16:50] <Kilos> grrr
[16:51] <inetpro> ton?
[16:51] <Kilos> and i cant copy paste the agenda link up there so i have to type it out and thats dicey
[16:51] <Kilos> Tonberry
[16:52] <Kilos> doesnt tab complete because there aint no space after your nick
[16:52] <Kilos> yo hibana wb
[16:52]  * hibana wonder wat is Kilos se probleem
[16:52] <Kilos> werk joune?
[16:53] <hibana> what's so difficult to type a space?
[16:53] <Kilos> i forget
[16:53] <Kilos> im used to it being done automatically
[16:53] <hibana> ai Kilos en wat as jy 'n komma wil insit?
[16:54] <Kilos> inetpro: ,
[16:54] <hibana> there is a setting to cover it you know
[16:54] <Kilos> maar nie hier nie
[16:54] <Kilos> hi inetpro<
[16:54] <Kilos> ai
[16:54] <Kilos> hi inetpro,
[16:55] <hibana> settings | configure konversation | General
[16:55] <hibana> 1. Suffix at start of line
[16:55] <hibana> 2. Elsewhere
[16:57] <hibana> and the topic line, just hover the mouse underneath the topic and grab the line to adjust
[16:58] <Kilos> where do you see configure konversation 
[16:58] <hibana> ai!
[16:58] <Kilos> lol
[16:59] <Kilos> oh here not main settings
[16:59] <Kilos> sorry
[16:59] <hibana> Kilos: File, Edit, Insert, Bookmarks, Settings, Window, Help
[16:59] <hibana> that ^^ is the menu
[16:59] <hibana> click Settings and choose the last option "Configure Konversation"
[17:01] <Kilos> i see elsewhere
[17:01] <inetpro> now Kilos if you put a space in there it will add a space automagically
[17:02] <Kilos> and a : in suffix at start of line
[17:02] <Kilos> oh my goodness
[17:02] <inetpro> that is working, not?
[17:02] <Kilos> hi inetpro hibana 
[17:02] <Kilos> yoohooo ty sir
[17:03] <inetpro> Kilos: np
[17:03]  * inetpro goes to have dinner
[17:03] <inetpro> wbbl
[17:03] <Kilos> me too
[17:03] <Kilos> enjoy
[17:32] <inetpro> Kilos: en hoekom bly jy nou so stl?
[17:33] <Kilos> sug
[17:33] <Kilos> my vriend is weg
[17:33] <inetpro> wie?
[17:34] <Kilos> hibana
[17:34] <inetpro> ai!
[17:34] <Kilos> nie eers gegroet nie
[17:34] <inetpro> jy moet met jouself gesels as hy weg is
[17:34] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:35] <Kilos> net mal mense doen dit
[17:35] <inetpro> hmm... 
[17:36] <Kilos> nee ek is nie
[17:36] <Kilos> te dom om mal te wees
[17:36] <Kilos> nou maak QA ook reg
[17:59] <Kilos> wb james_n7 
[18:00] <james_n7> Got Mate, and I must say, its very nice ! Best i've tested so far :) 
[18:03] <Kilos> its the same or similar as the old ubuntu
[18:03] <Kilos> when ubuntu used gnome2
[18:03] <Kilos> now switched to unity
[18:04] <Kilos> you should have a look at unity as well
[18:05] <james_n7> untiy as in ubuntu and lubuntu and all that?
[18:05] <Kilos> works great on a fast pc
[18:06] <Kilos> unity is the main ubuntu lubuntu and kubuntu and xubuntu use different interfaces
[18:06] <Kilos> kubuntu uses kde, xubuntu uses xfce i think
[18:06] <james_n7> I have Ubuntu on a pc... Its great, but i enjoy arch because of the freedom in customising
[18:07] <james_n7> Oh yes... I have tried them all out, found Ubuntu to be the coolest for me :)
[18:07] <Kilos> you should try kubuntu then. very configurable
[18:08] <james_n7> Sounds good :) Play Minetest?
[18:08] <Kilos> nope i dont play many games
[18:09] <james_n7> Oh I see :P 
[18:10] <Kilos> im a bally
[18:11] <james_n7> Thought as much lol :P 
[18:12] <Kilos> lol
[18:12] <james_n7> What do you do? Just curious, seeing as you are online most of the time :P
[18:12] <Kilos> i play red alert and AOE whenever i install windows for some or other reason
[18:13] <Kilos> im a semi disabled peep that stays on a plot by my sister and her husband
[18:13] <james_n7> Oh ok cool :D Nice games :D I see :P
[18:17] <Kilos> Symmetria: and feedback?
[18:17] <Kilos> any
[18:18] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[18:19] <Kilos> sneaking again
[18:19] <not_found> hiya uncle Kilos 
[18:20] <superfly> tumbleweed: ping
[18:27] <superfly> tumbleweed: don't worry, I've managed to fix the one issue, I should be able to fix the other too
[18:34] <inetpro> Maaz: literal announce $arg
[18:34] <Maaz> inetpro: 1: <reply> Announcement from $who! $1, 2: <reply> Hear ye, hear ye! $1
[18:34] <inetpro> tumbleweed: how do you add a 2nd or 3rd factoid when you deal with an $arg 
[18:50] <Kilos> hi grantw 
[18:52] <grantw> hellow
[18:57] <superfly> hey grantw
[19:03] <grantw> hey superfly
[19:07] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:09] <superfly> grantw: I don't know if you have quite figured out who i am... you met me at the global jam, I was the guy who came by train
[19:11] <grantw> oh, hey, thought i might have met you :) 
[19:12] <superfly> :-)
[19:13] <grantw> superfly: this open source world is so big, i almost don't know where to start as a keen software developer, guess it will take me a while
[19:13] <grantw> superfly: i have been really busy though :( work is getting busy
[19:14] <superfly> grantw: there are various ways to go about it... even just taking the time to submit bug reports makes a huge difference
[19:15] <superfly> I can tell you from my own experience that we had to very quickly release a 2.0.1 update after our 2.0 release because people didn't take the time to report 2 major bugs
[19:44] <smile4ever> good night :)
[20:38] <tumbleweed> superfly: hi. sorted?
[20:38] <tumbleweed> inetpro: good question, can't think of the answer right now
[20:38] <superfly> tumbleweed: yes, it was an issue with dkms
[20:39] <tumbleweed> ah, not an area of my expertise
[20:39] <superfly> which meant that both my VirtualBox modules and my nvidia graphics drivers weren't working
[20:39] <superfly> some googling fixed it up
[22:02] <nuvolari> fp
[22:08] <Kerbero> hmm, ek is nie gegroet deur kilos nie