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xubuntu652hola00:06
xubuntu652alguien hablaspñol00:07
xubuntu652español00:07
Unit193!es | xubuntu65200:07
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xubuntu652okgracias00:08
xubuntu831Hey can anyone help me with a custom live cd?  I want to configure what the default settings will be for my desktop ( Panels/Wallpaper/Default Apps )00:49
GridCube!customcd00:50
GridCube!costumcd00:50
GridCube!customlivecd00:51
ubottuInterested in remastering the Ubuntu !LiveCD or !Alternate installer? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization - Or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility00:51
xubuntu831thanks ubottu but they don't say anything on xfce customization for live cds00:52
GridCubeits the same00:53
xubuntu831gnome  != xfce00:53
xubuntu831live cd creation isn't my problem, customization of default settings for a live cd is00:54
Unit193xubuntu831: That's not really a supported topic for this channel, but look under /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/00:54
xubuntu831thanks00:55
xubuntu831thats perfect thanks00:56
apersonthis happens to me quite a bit with xfce4-terminal in dropdown mode: does this happen to anyone else and is there a fix (or maybe just some insight I can follow)?: http://i.imgur.com/aPYEMP3.png  The window accepts keyboard and mouse input, but it just is grey and blank.01:00
n2diymy SD card reader isn't working, is there a way to restart it?01:44
airlynxmy Toshiba has several recovery partitions, how do I set those so that they don't show up on my desktop (but I still want my Windows partition to show)?02:27
louigihey guys! I booted my machine up today and something happened05:52
louigiit is as if I am logged under a different user05:52
louigisettings are different (like, I had two workspaces, but only 1 is present)05:52
louigiit also says trash is empty while showing some files there05:53
louigimany windows do not have a tab and I cannot move them05:53
louigiin firefox I cannot click any menus, like Bookmarks.05:54
louigiAnything happened after some upgrade?05:54
nikolamlouigi, probably something wrong with that account05:56
nikolamwhat xubuntu you are using?05:56
louigixubuntu 12.0405:57
nikolamdo you have pre-prepared alternative account on machine with administration rights?05:57
nikolamwhen was the last time you update it? I also have 12,04.2 but 32 bit05:57
louigino pre-prepared account05:58
louigiI also use 32 bit05:58
louigiit was updated yeterday05:58
louigiupdates came in05:58
louigiand today there is a problem05:58
nikolamcan you make new one now?05:58
louigisure. what should it be?05:58
nikolamYou have it under GUI: System>Users and Groups05:59
louigiman, I now cannot move windows - there are no handles05:59
louigiand I cannot access the menu - it is covered by another window06:00
nikolamthat means window manager is not working06:00
louigiok, could access06:00
louigiwhat there?06:00
nikolamtry alt+f2 and run xfwm4 to start windows manager.06:01
nikolamwell make new account with administrative rights and log it with it next time06:01
louiginikolam, WOW, FIXED THE ISSUE06:01
louigisorry for caps06:02
louigiunintended06:02
louigihm06:02
nikolamwell, you can also report a bug for package that wm is coming from06:02
louigiso the problem is that the window manager is not loaded at boot06:02
nikolamalso check if your xfce session is recorded on logout, so it don't behave like that again06:02
nikolamif it happens every time, then might be something with user configuration06:03
nikolammake new account anyway, log with it next time, then make YOUR new account login , logoff, and migrate all data you need from old user account06:04
nikolamthat way you will get default settings, new account and copied important data to a new one.06:04
nikolamit is under /home/usernames06:04
louiginikolam, thank you for info, will do that if it happens again06:05
nikolamlouigi, i suggest you disinfect you account like that and always have reserve admin account in that case and to report WM bug to see why it stopped working.06:06
louiginikolam, will do!06:16
louigithank you for your help!06:17
LionDGemHeartHi there, my Xubuntu usually works very fine, but sometimes there is a strange error. Especially when the processor is working very hard suddenly I can't move my mouse anymore (touchpad) and it seems, that the whole touchpad i used for scrolling. If I press Strg+Alt+F1 and then Strg+Alt+F7 everything works again.07:35
kvarleyWhat font does XUbuntu use as its system wide font?08:11
Oweoqican anyone else confirm this and make sure I'm not going crazy? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfce4ui/+bug/113104409:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1131044 in libxfce4ui (Ubuntu) "Shortcuts such as Ctrl+F9 set but are unresponsive" [Undecided,Confirmed]09:01
john_rambois it possible make xubuntu look like osx ?09:18
ochosijohn_rambo: partly yes09:23
poghello09:23
ochosi!hi09:23
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!09:23
john_ramboochosi, Can you tell me how ?09:24
pogcan I bookmark in gigolo for example /home/user ?  which is already mounted, but I like to have an index to access all of my directories.09:25
ochosijohn_rambo: first off it depends on what aspects you want to look like osx. if it's just some simple visual aspects, google for a gtk-theme that looks like osx09:25
ochosipog: gigolo is mostly for managing remote bookmarks, why would you bookmark your home-dir there?09:25
pogit seem's that nautilius can handle sshfs but it's not possible to bookmark.09:25
john_ramboochosi, I want to get rid of the panels & add that floating panel09:26
ochosijohn_rambo: try docky or avant-window-navigator or cairodock09:26
john_ramboOkay09:26
pogochosi: I see the gigolo icon in the tray, so I thougt it would be practical (but I can live without this function).09:27
john_ramboochosi, But what about the notification area? WIll it appear in avant ?09:27
ochosijohn_rambo: i guess so, haven't used that in a while myself09:28
pogi can possibly add mein home it the tray.09:28
pog i use tunar 1.2.3. as fm09:29
pogI could try with nautilius, to be able to bookmark external files.09:30
pogo.k thanks for the moment.09:31
pogby the way I'm very happy with XFCE, much faster than other wm (on a low powered laptop).09:32
ochosipog: what version of xubuntu are you using?09:34
nooooohello09:43
nooooohow can i use the powersaving-settings also while the electric cable of my notebook is plugged?09:44
pog12.0409:47
pogochosi: 12.0409:47
pogI installed xfce after the installation09:48
nooooothe fan is loud09:48
nooooowhen i unplug the electrical cable, running on battery09:48
noooooits slower09:49
nooooomore silent09:49
noooooand colder09:49
nooooowould be nice if it would be always in this mode09:49
noooooas im afraid that it's gonna burn everything09:49
pogI had a applet o 10.04, where it was possible to control the cpu and i think also reduce the frequenzy.09:50
bekksnooooo: The fan wouldnt burn anything - check the temperature.09:50
john_rambohow to remove both panels ?09:53
noooooit's hot, thats why im afraid that it would burn. I'm running xubuntu since more than a year now and the fan will be dead some day... then the cpu gonna burn all up09:53
noooooim installin acpi now09:54
nooooohow can i see hardware info in terminal?09:57
john_ramboHow to remove both panels ? I have already removed 109:58
nooooolshw09:59
nooooojohn_rambo u dont want any panel anymore?09:59
john_rambonooooo, No09:59
nooooo?10:00
john_rambonooooo, No I dont want anymore panels10:00
noooooso only shell?10:00
nooooono graphic mouse clicking thing anymore?10:01
john_rambonooooo, No ihave installed vanat window navigator I will use that10:01
john_ramboavant10:02
nooooo sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop10:03
bekksThats a meta package and will not remove any panels.10:03
nooooosudo apt-get autoremove # removes dependencies of xubuntu-desktop10:03
john_rambonooooo, But that will remove the entire desktop ....I only want the panel to be removed10:03
nooooook then i dont know10:04
nooooosorry10:04
john_ramboK10:04
WizardHi!10:06
ChesterXhey everybody, i installed gedit however i can find its folder/plugin folder (~/.gnome2/gedit). any idea why that might be?10:22
Unit193ChesterX: . means it is hidden, ctrl+h to show.10:25
ChesterXUnit193, i know. still couldn t find it10:25
ChesterXi have been using the program for some time now, but for some reason its not where it is supposed to be xD10:26
Unit193Try locate gedit | grep $user-here10:27
WizardUbuntu 12.04 and 12.10 doesn't have Gnome 2 in repos anymore.10:28
ChesterXthe .gnome and .gnome2 folders appear in my tree but not this specific subfolder10:28
ChesterXalright, it seems like the gedit folder is within /usr/lib10:31
koegsChesterX: i think you have to create that subfolder yourself10:34
ChesterXkoegs, tried it and didn t work10:35
ChesterXall the plugins are in the aforementioned folder10:35
koegsok, i thought you want to "install" a plugin yourself, then you would put it there10:38
ChesterXalright, using sudo & cp -R i finally managed to get the result i wanted. lets see whether it works10:43
ChesterXand it doesnt ....10:44
ChesterX= ="10:44
ChesterXbtw, i m trying to install zencoding. any suggestions?10:45
WizardGoogle for "gedit 3 local plugin folder" :P10:46
ChesterXfriking greatfirewall...10:54
ChesterXthanks Wizard it looks promising. i ll give it a shoot later10:55
ChesterXright now nothing wants to load...10:55
WizardGreat what?10:57
WizardAh, of China?10:57
ChesterXyeah... luckily i wont stay here forever x-)11:01
ChesterXbut it can be a pain in the ass11:01
ChesterXanywho, thanks for the tip11:01
WizardI didn't help much.11:06
ChesterXlets decide that once i got access to the content ;-)11:08
louigihey fellas! I am on xubuntu 12.04 and on ASUS laptop. After yesterday's update (or so I think) my hardware buttons, which, for instance, can turn on and off the touchpad, stopped working12:58
louigianything I can do about it?12:58
rzitoHello all, can anyone recommend eclipse J2EE channels? thx!!!12:59
Pici!alis | rzito13:06
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xubuntu879why does my wifi disconnect randomly and will only reconnect if I reboot?14:34
baizonxubuntu879: check dmeg for errors14:34
xubuntu879how do I do that?14:34
baizonxubuntu879: open terminal and type "dmesg"14:35
xubuntu879what am I looking for after that14:38
baizonwifi stuff14:41
huyHello everyone14:44
huyI have a problem with boot time, it solved BUT in weird way14:45
baizonhuy: more details please14:46
huyIt's took more than 5 mins to boot14:46
huybut everythings normal when I plus my external optical mouse14:46
GridCubehuy, from time to time the system will perform a large system check on boot14:47
huyAfter plus the mouse (USB port) it took seconds for booting14:47
huywithout external mouse it's took nearly 10 mins again :(14:48
baizonhuy: you could install bootchart and compare it. Then you can analyze it14:48
baizonhuy: more info here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86818914:48
huyThank you, I will try it14:48
huyHave a nice day.14:49
baizonyou too14:49
baizonGridCube: is this a problem?14:49
GridCubemmm what problem?14:52
xubuntu879 20.447409] wlan0: authenticate with 00:1d:d0:84:f8:b4 [   20.462845] wlan0: send auth to 00:1d:d0:84:f8:b4 (try 1/3) [   20.464241] wlan0: authenticated [   20.474730] wlan0: associate with 00:1d:d0:84:f8:b4 (try 1/3) [   20.476968] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:1d:d0:84:f8:b4 (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=2) [   20.477149] wlan0: associated [   20.478161] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready14:53
GridCubeoh no, no, i was saying to huy that sometimes it might take a long time to boot because it does a system check14:53
xubuntu879bazion  that is the only thing i see14:53
holstein!paste | xubuntu87914:53
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baizonxubuntu879: please use paste.ubuntu.com14:53
xubuntu879baizon http://paste.ubuntu.com/5616702/14:55
baizonxubuntu879: this is the info, when your wifi connects. Keep watching until you get disconnected and save the output14:56
xubuntu879oh ok14:56
huyHey baizon! I found a new way to fix my last problem (boot time too long)15:04
baizonhuy: nice to hear :)15:04
baizonwhat was the problem?15:05
huyI went to BIOS and change SATA ... mode ... I'm not sure ... and change AHCI mode to compatible ...15:05
huyBoot as fast as thunder :))15:05
baizonand how did you get this idea?15:05
huyGoogle :)15:06
huyBut your help really helpful15:06
baizonok :)15:07
bezhi15:13
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OrmusSo yea I just compiled stuff and installed it here15:55
Ormusbut when i type the app's name in terminal it says command not found15:55
john_rambohow to keep the xfce panel installed but stop it from loading ?15:55
baizonjohn_rambo: remove it15:56
Ormusit is inside /usr/local/games, it only opens if i type ./usr/local/games/prboom-plus15:56
baizonjohn_rambo: right click and panel preferences, then just remove15:56
PiciOrmus: is /usr/local/games/ in your $PATH ?15:56
baizonjohn_rambo: or add at startup a script where you kill the xfce panel15:57
john_rambobaizon, That can be done with one panel but not the other I tried15:57
Ormuspici well i don't know, how do i check?15:57
PiciOrmus: echo $PATH15:57
Ormusno15:57
PiciWell, thats the issue then.16:01
baizonjohn_rambo: then kill the process at startup16:01
john_rambowhat is the command ? baizon16:02
baizonjohn_rambo: "killall xfce4-panel"16:02
baizontry that16:02
Ormusgreat, googled and solved, thank you pici :D16:02
john_rambobaizon, Thanks it worked16:03
baizonnp16:03
kissadam9Hi!16:09
kissadam9CAn you help me?16:09
baizonkissadam9: it depends16:09
kissadam9My problem is the following: When i reboot my notebook, the touchpad settings reverts to the default settings, so every time i boot up the os i have to set up some settings to work as it should work16:10
GridCubehow do you set those settings?16:15
kissadam9in the settings manager16:15
GridCubeif they are terminal commands you can add them to the login stage16:15
kissadam9they are not terminal commands16:16
GridCubemmm16:16
kissadam9simple ubuntu was working well (everything worked) with unity, but i wanted a bit less energy consumer graphical interface, but a lot of thing is different, but much much faster16:17
Ormusso yea is there a driver or lib i must install for this webcam to work??16:29
Ormuslsusb: Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0c45:612f Microdia PC Camera (SN9C110)16:29
OrmusI have tried another one and it works ok but this microdia just doesn't work. complaining about the driver16:30
Ormusit does show another error regarding v4L, telling that it couldn't be found (guvcview)16:30
holsteinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=139374216:32
holstein!info gspca16:32
ubottuPackage gspca does not exist in quantal16:32
holsteinhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/blog/uinseann-360763/webcam-in-ubuntu-1966/16:34
holsteinthough all the information i find is old.. i usually dont waste much time on older hardware, but if it used to work, you should be able to find a backport or build support in manually16:34
Ormusoh well16:35
xubuntu365,16:48
xubuntu434just installed the beta on a USB stick. Curious: What's the big difference between 13.04 and 12.10?17:04
ochosithere won't be huge differences17:05
ochosia few default apps will be back by default17:06
ochosibut that doesnt matter if you already have 12.10 installed17:06
ochosi(read the release announcement ;))17:06
Ormuslibreoffice will be back then? :V17:11
GridCubelibreoffice was never in17:33
GridCubeso nope17:33
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EDinNYAny idea why Xubuntu 12.04.1 is not spell checking?17:47
EDinNY...In Firefox, anyway17:47
EDinNYAbi spell checks ok17:48
EDinNYMy FB posts look like crap!17:49
EDinNYMy default language is set to US Eng17:49
donnieOk. How do I set Chrome Incognito as default? It seems to be working a lot better17:50
GridCubeEDinNY, have you installed your dictionary packs on firefox?17:58
EDinNYHow can I tell? Firefox was part of the default install, and Abiword does check spel18:00
GridCubeabiword uses aspell, firefox uses its own dictionary, by default there is no one installed18:00
GridCubehttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/language-tools/18:00
GridCubeEDinNY, ^18:00
baizonEDinNY: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-use-firefox-spell-checker18:00
GridCubefind your language there and download your dictionary18:01
EDinNYAnd xubuntu does not add it by default? odd18:02
EDinNYThanks. works now18:02
GridCubeno18:02
GridCube:) yw18:02
donnieIs there an mp3 tagging program?18:03
GridCubeyes18:03
GridCubeex falso18:04
GridCube!info exfalso18:04
ubottuexfalso (source: quodlibet): audio tag editor for GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-1 (quantal), package size 708 kB, installed size 2732 kB18:04
GridCubethere might be others, but thats the one i know18:04
donnieI found "Audio tag tool"...18:07
ninjahattorihi i've set autologin on xubuntu 12.10 and sometimes after get into desktop, trash bin and network link in thunar's side panel often missing. i had to logout and back in to get them back there. any idea why?18:15
baizonninjahattori: try to clear the .cache folder18:16
ninjahattoribaizon, ty18:18
baizonninjahattori: np18:21
QJThello :) i am currently on xubuntu 12.10 and i'm looking forward to upgrading to 13.04 next month. i usually perform clean installs when upgrading, but i do not want to lose my current set up and applications. would it be safe to do an in-place upgrade? im a bit worried not only because it would be my first time doing so, but also because i have the xfce-4.12 ppa installed. is that going to be problematic?19:08
knomeQJT, backup. you'll most probably be fine.19:10
David-AQJT: I don't do in-place installs often, but I believe that if you try that, it will recognize the previous install and keep your /home where all your personal settings are stored.19:11
knomeyes, settings and files in /home are kept intact. unless something goes wrong, which is why you should always backup19:11
David-AQJT: manually installed packages and ppa:s will not be preserved. but if you remember/document what you have done you can relatively simply redo them19:12
knomei believe ppa's are simply commented so it should be relatively easy to re-enable them19:13
QJTthank u so much for the replies, gentlemen :)  i know i should have installed my /home on a seperate partition to make things easier when it came time to upgrade but i was lazy lol... i will follow the advice and back up /home before upgrading. it shouldnt be difficult to re enable the xfce-4.12 ppa, i just wanted to be sure it would not interfere with the upgrade process.19:18
ninjahattorisorry dc. Settings > Users and Groups > Password > Don't ask for password on login doesn't seem to be working19:19
David-AQJT: when re-adding ppa:s, check if the new system need another version of that ppa19:39
QJTDavid-A: thats good advice. unfortunately, im not sure were to look to find out... could you give me some insight?20:03
QJTi was simply planning on un-checking them from my source list before upgrade, then re-check them after i upgrade...20:04
QJTi was not planning on completely removing them, simply disableing them so i wont have to re adding or re installing them...20:05
bazhangPPa are disabled by default20:06
David-AQJT: could be a good idea to uncheck them before an "upgrade", but before a "re-install" the previous system is just over-written, so should not matter20:06
bazhangcheck the PPA maintainer for a new version20:06
bluesfreak72Hi!  I'm running 12.04 Precise on my laptop and trying to use nomachine's nx_client package to connect.  I have set the server up properly.  When I try to connect, it goes through the entire connect procedure.  The large window pops up, but before the desktop shows up, the entire program kills itself.  The server is Arch Linux with nomachine's freenx server package.  HELP!!!20:08
bluesfreak72Oh - I'm also using xfce as the default desktop on the Arch machine.20:09
QJTthanks again for the replies, gentlemen :)  i am not planning to re-install my system. im planning on doing an in-place upgrade and it was my understanding that my previous configuration will remain intact with my /home. there for upgrading should not over right my ppa source list...20:14
bazhangthey are disabled by default as I said QJT20:14
QJTbazhang: i see... thank you :)  well, i think i've gathered enough info to help me with the upgrade next month. i really appreciate the help from all who have replied! im off to take care of some work, take care everyone :)20:19
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louigihey guys!22:29
louigilooks like after an upgrade acpi stopped working - at least so I think22:30
louigithe button on the laptop which is responsible to switch the touchpad on and off stopped working22:30
louigiit worked before22:30
louigixubuntu 12.0422:30
louigiany advice?22:30
n-iCeMy battery laptop icon is missing any idea? ( I still see the wireless, sound, bluetooth icons)22:55
Kiarais xfce-power-manager running?22:58
n-iCehow can I check22:59
Kiaraopen the task manager and check if its listed as a process22:59
n-iCeyes it is running23:00
Kiararick click on your user name -> panel -> panel prefrences -> items tab -> click Notification Area then click the gear -> is power management listed? is it hidden?23:05

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