| ScottK | shadeslayer: We want the latest git, don't we? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ScottK | So I'm confused. | 00:00 |
| shadeslayer | hmm, true enough | 00:00 |
| shadeslayer | from what I read on the ML, all kio-mtp bugs are now fixed | 00:01 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: uploaded | 00:02 |
| ScottK | THanks. | 00:02 |
| ScottK | Yep. THat's why I suggested updating. | 00:02 |
| valorie | since I got updates a few days ago, the screenlocker no longer works | 01:14 |
| valorie | love the screenlocker; where to file the bug? | 01:15 |
| ScottK | b.k.o | 02:13 |
| smartboyhw | ? | 02:13 |
| * valorie is in the midst of listening to the meeting | 02:18 | |
| valorie | so far, great! | 02:18 |
| valorie | \o/ for shirts | 02:20 |
| valorie | boo for no fezzes | 02:20 |
| valorie | I loved it | 02:43 |
| valorie | sure hope I can get mumble working before the next one | 02:44 |
| valorie | I think the mp3 link should be on the etherpad | 02:44 |
| valorie | and/or wiki page | 02:44 |
| test | Hi there, I just updated Kubuntu Quantal to Raring and after user login XServer immediately crashes - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618592/ any idea? | 07:32 |
| valorie | oooo | 07:42 |
| test | hi valorie | 07:44 |
| valorie | hi test | 07:44 |
| test | well, starting over with precise install | 07:44 |
| valorie | sorry, not a developer so I don't know, but I'm planning to upgrade at least one if not two computers to test the upgrade | 07:45 |
| test | since there's no alternate installer for quantal or raring | 07:45 |
| test | and encryption doesn't work customized | 07:45 |
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| lordievader | Good morning | 08:46 |
| Mamarok | test: make sure you have kde-workspace-randr | 09:03 |
| test | Mamarok: yes, have it | 09:03 |
| Mamarok | likely a packaging error, but I thought that was fixed. How did you upgrade? | 09:03 |
| test | do-release-upgrade -d | 09:03 |
| Mamarok | right, but you must have some missing package somewhere | 09:04 |
| Mamarok | try to look for other missing packages in kde-workspace | 09:05 |
| test | well, wiped it and did another install from 12.04 since there's no alternate installer anymore | 09:05 |
| Mamarok | why 12.04? That is old, you should at least have 1.10 by now | 09:06 |
| Mamarok | 12.10 | 09:06 |
| test | no alternate installer since 12.10 | 09:06 |
| Mamarok | why do you need the alternate installer? | 09:07 |
| test | for manually setting the encrypted partitions | 09:07 |
| test | the desktop install can neither activated existing encrypted partitions and even creating new ones makes it fail | 09:08 |
| Mamarok | encrypted how? | 09:08 |
| test | what do you mean how? | 09:09 |
| yofel | encrypted LVM | 09:09 |
| test | no lvm | 09:09 |
| yofel | ubiquity's manual partitioner can't do that yet | 09:09 |
| yofel | ah | 09:09 |
| test | I don't like lvm | 09:09 |
| test | (1) start installer | 09:10 |
| test | (2) select to manually partition the disk | 09:10 |
| test | (3) create a partition | 09:10 |
| test | (4) select it to be encrypted | 09:10 |
| test | --> error regarding encryption keys$ | 09:10 |
| test | also when you have ssd, you want to adjust the cryptsetup payload from default | 09:10 |
| test | so you could ctrl-alt-f2 | 09:10 |
| test | and issue: cryptsetup luksFormat --align-payload=8192 /dev/sda2 | 09:11 |
| test | once done, you go back to installer and just activate that partition | 09:11 |
| test | that's not possible in the gui installer either | 09:11 |
| Mamarok | hm, that is unfortunate | 09:13 |
| test | so what I did now is | 09:13 |
| test | install from alternate 12.04 | 09:13 |
| Mamarok | then upgrade | 09:13 |
| test | alter lts to normal in the /etc/update-manager/release-something-file | 09:13 |
| test | do-release-upgrade -d | 09:13 |
| test | do it a second time to update to raring | 09:13 |
| test | and then run tasksel to install kubuntu-dekstop | 09:14 |
| test | that seems now to work | 09:14 |
| test | before I did install kubuntu-desktop upon installtion.... but now I just did basic ubuntu install with openssh-server and no desktop | 09:14 |
| test | makes the do-release-upgrade faster | 09:14 |
| yofel | wouldn't it have been easier to install ubuntu-server 13.04? | 09:15 |
| yofel | that just doesn't ship a DE | 09:15 |
| test | didn't have an ISO by hand | 09:15 |
| yofel | ah ok | 09:15 |
| test | but its a good idea | 09:15 |
| test | although kernel needs then to be changed to -generic | 09:15 |
| yofel | that is generic these days - unless they changed it again | 09:16 |
| test | didn't server have a seperate kernel? | 09:16 |
| yofel | there was -server once, but it was merged with -generic | 09:16 |
| test | re-install almost done..... previously installed apps get installed and backup data pulled from local backup server | 09:17 |
| test | didn't know about the merge | 09:17 |
| test | haven't used ubuuntu server for a long time.... current servers I setup I do with debian wheezy | 09:17 |
| yofel | ah | 09:17 |
| yofel | I think we now only have -generic, -virtual and -lowlatency | 09:18 |
| yofel | and some rt variant | 09:18 |
| test | debian added a while back a nice feature to remotely reboot encrypted fileservers | 09:18 |
| yofel | nice | 09:18 |
| test | not sure if ubuntu did that also | 09:18 |
| test | basicaly they provide an easy way to integrate dropbear and early network start into the intiramfs and a script that does the unlocking and contiuation of boot | 09:20 |
| yofel | meh, I'll need to debug the tmpfs usage in the upgrade tester | 09:35 |
| yofel | for some reason it's not releasing memory after cleanup() | 09:36 |
| mitya57 | hi, can anybody please look at lp:~mitya57/kubuntu-packaging/qt-lp1094360? | 10:20 |
| mitya57 | it should fix bug 1094360 | 10:20 |
| ubottu | bug 1094360 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "qt4 apps such as vlc: QGtkStyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme unless libgnome2-common is installed" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1094360 | 10:20 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 12:38 |
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| shadeslayer | yofel: have you ever used kvm such that any changes to the img file are non persistent? | 15:32 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: no, and I wouldn't know how to do that without snapshotting | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | brrr | 15:58 |
| yofel | wth happened to grub though. | 15:59 |
| yofel | the OS selection suddenly has a Debian logo, and says "Kubuntu GNU/Linux" | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | hahah | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | We defected | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | that's what happened | 16:01 |
| yofel | totally :D | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger sekretly made the change | 16:01 |
| Quintasan | lol | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: my upgrade failed because tmpfs says it ran out of space | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | totally not true seeing how I have so much free RAM | 16:02 |
| yofel | tmpfs default is RAM/2 | 16:03 |
| yofel | I have override code for that here | 16:03 |
| yofel | lemme commit that | 16:03 |
| yofel | I have issues with tmpfs not freeing memory though :S | 16:03 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: bzr up | 16:05 |
| yofel | now I'm setting it to fixed 12G | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | bzr and git feel so orthogonal | 16:06 |
| yofel | bzr-- | 16:06 |
| yofel | git++ | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | I keep doing bzr pull in bzr and git up at times | 16:06 |
| yofel | perfectly orthogonal | 16:06 |
| yofel | haha | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: we should get these changes merged into lp:auto-upgrade-tester :) | 16:08 |
| yofel | most of them, yeah | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yofel: hm? | 16:20 |
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| murthy | hello everyone | 17:16 |
| yofel | bah, this is too weird | 17:17 |
| yofel | no tmpfs for me :( | 17:17 |
| murthy | yofel: that means swap disabled? | 17:17 |
| yofel | no, when I run the upgrade tester the data in tmpfs isn't destroyed after it finishes | 17:18 |
| yofel | but I find no mounted tmpfs | 17:18 |
| murthy | daily or beta 1? | 17:18 |
| yofel | daily | 17:18 |
| yofel | now I have 7G RAM + 4G swap filled with junk | 17:19 |
| murthy | thats bad | 17:19 |
| murthy | yofel: did you confirm with other testers? | 17:19 |
| yofel | not yet | 17:20 |
| yofel | shadeslayer should try it again | 17:20 |
| yofel | also new kernel in archive | 17:20 |
| * yofel reboots | 17:20 | |
| yofel | ok, next try | 17:22 |
| murthy | new kernel? i have to test then, updating the image | 17:22 |
| yofel | yeah, -13 | 17:23 |
| yofel | well, we won't need tmpfs for the production tests anyway. But it's really weird | 17:24 |
| murthy | ya | 17:24 |
| markey | apachelogger: hey, what's the state of that pGst backport? | 18:34 |
| markey | this streaming bug is driving me nuts | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | pending testing? | 18:34 |
| markey | ah yes, I thought that I forgot something :) | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | markey: bug 1115276 bug 1115270 bug 1115286 bug 1115277 bug 918688 | 18:35 |
| ubottu | bug 1115276 in phonon-backend-gstreamer (Ubuntu Precise) "crash when gstreamer cannot be initalized" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1115276 | 18:35 |
| ubottu | bug 1115270 in phonon-backend-gstreamer (Ubuntu Precise) "desktop file validation failure" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1115270 | 18:35 |
| ubottu | bug 1115286 in phonon-backend-gstreamer (Ubuntu Precise) "cannot play audio cd from drive >1" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1115286 | 18:35 |
| ubottu | bug 1115277 in phonon-backend-gstreamer (Ubuntu Precise) "waitcondition timeout too long for short samples" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1115277 | 18:35 |
| markey | cheers | 18:35 |
| ubottu | bug 918688 in phonon-backend-gstreamer (Ubuntu Precise) "phonon-backend-gstreamer seems to have issues playing from http" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/918688 | 18:35 |
| markey | how can I get the package? | 18:36 |
| markey | it's lost in backlog | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | see ScottK's comment on the bugs | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed | 18:37 |
| markey | ok | 18:37 |
| markey | hey, just out of interest, can you point me to the commit that fixed this bug? | 18:38 |
| markey | streaming I mean | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | see git log I guess | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | should contain the string webkit I think | 18:38 |
| markey | I did. it looked like you pushed a huge bunch of commits without rebasing. or you're writing horrible commit logs in general ;) | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | ScottK, Riddell: bug 1156019 | 18:39 |
| ubottu | bug 1156019 in Ubuntu "[FFe] Konversation 1.5 (pre-release)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1156019 | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | markey: in pgst? | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | actually doesn't matter, maintenance branches do not get merges ^^ | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | markey: efdc92f2de8dc47abbc5af2de9c2bcc5e6cf0200 | 18:40 |
| markey | cheers honey | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | :* | 18:41 |
| markey | meh, I'll just build from source | 18:42 |
| apachelogger | markey: you'll need to use the package to verify the bugs as fixed | 18:42 |
| markey | right | 18:43 |
| markey | we can pretend I'm using it | 18:43 |
| apachelogger | it's about QAing the package, not some git hash ^^ | 18:43 |
| apachelogger | yofel, shadeslayer: ddebs vs. -dbg? | 18:43 |
| markey | -dbg | 18:43 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: ping | 18:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: also am I getting this right that rekonq master is actually not building at all? Oo | 18:45 |
| yofel | apachelogger: for PPA? | 18:48 |
| yofel | -dbg would be the more space efficient solution. .ddeb the easier one | 18:48 |
| * yofel preferst -dbg but is lazy | 18:48 | |
| yofel | *prefers | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | just wondering | 18:49 |
| apachelogger | becuse you have a card for adding autogeneration of -dbg | 18:49 |
| yofel | I added that before shadeslayer added the one for ddebs | 18:49 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Approved. | 18:57 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Did you know there's a package in the archive called hslogger? | 18:57 |
| apachelogger | lol, no | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | !info hslogger | 18:58 |
| ubottu | Package hslogger does not exist in quantal | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | !info hslogger raring | 18:58 |
| ubottu | Package hslogger does not exist in raring | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: ubottu doesn't either :P | 18:58 |
| ScottK | It's a source package name. | 18:58 |
| ScottK | !info libghc-hslogger-prof | 18:58 |
| ubottu | libghc-hslogger-prof (source: hslogger): The Haskell Logging Framework, GHC profiling libraries. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.4+dfsg1-2build2 (quantal), package size 124 kB, installed size 601 kB | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | ah | 18:59 |
| apachelogger | haskell ftw! | 18:59 |
| blaze | how i supposed to run qmake-qt5 in raring? | 19:59 |
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| shadeslayer | blaze: just call qmake-qt5 ? | 20:31 |
| shadeslayer | !find qmake-qt5 | 20:31 |
| ubottu | Package/file qmake-qt5 does not exist in quantal | 20:31 |
| blaze | No command 'qmake-qt5' found | 20:32 |
| blaze | it's installed | 20:32 |
| shadeslayer | !find qmake-qt5 raring | 20:33 |
| shadeslayer | silly bot | 20:33 |
| ubottu | File qmake-qt5 found in qt5-qmake | 20:33 |
| shadeslayer | heh fun | 20:33 |
| shadeslayer | blaze: did you make sure qt5-qmake is installed? | 20:34 |
| blaze | sure | 20:34 |
| shadeslayer | can you run : dpkg -S qmake-qt5 | 20:36 |
| blaze | here's the output of dpkg -L http://wklej.org/hash/44e300d41b2/txt/ | 20:36 |
| murthy | its just qmake ? | 20:37 |
| shadeslayer | ohm | 20:38 |
| shadeslayer | murthy: seems so | 20:38 |
| shadeslayer | blaze: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmake | 20:38 |
| shadeslayer | that's what you want to run | 20:38 |
| blaze | qmake is qmake-qt4 | 20:38 |
| shadeslayer | ahh | 20:39 |
| shadeslayer | blaze: can you check what ls -l /usr/bin/qmake-qt5 says | 20:39 |
| blaze | ls: cannot access /usr/bin/qmake-qt5: No such file or directory | 20:40 |
| shadeslayer | 0.o | 20:40 |
| shadeslayer | installed it, apparently it doesn't symlink a binary called qmake-qt5 | 20:41 |
| murthy | ldd wont tell? | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | what does ldd have to do with this 0.o | 20:42 |
| shadeslayer | blaze: anyway, I'm not quite sure why they don't have it, maybe worth opening a bug report? | 20:42 |
| murthy | shadeslayer: to know about the current qmake | 20:42 |
| shadeslayer | murthy: uh, do you know what ldd does? | 20:43 |
| murthy | shadeslayer: shows the libraries loaded? | 20:43 |
| blaze | shadeslayer: here's qtchooser but it doesn't work, and yea someone already filed a bug | 20:43 |
| shadeslayer | awesome | 20:44 |
| shadeslayer | murthy: so how does that help us in checking which version of qmake does /usr/bin/qmake points to? | 20:45 |
| shadeslayer | /usr/bin/qmake is basically just a symlink | 20:45 |
| shadeslayer | and you run ls -l /usr/bin/qmake to find out which qmake it points to | 20:45 |
| shadeslayer | for me it's lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Mar 5 09:35 /usr/bin/qmake -> qtchooser | 20:45 |
| murthy | shadeslayer: i thought we would be able to find the version of qmake if it loads any libraries with some relevant version number, it seems i am wrong, nothing regarding that is loaded | 20:48 |
| shadeslayer | yep, ldd is not useful at all in this situation since qtchooser will load either of the qmake's according to the settings at runtime | 20:49 |
| starbuck | is there any way i can find out what to do if plasma-desktop does not want to come up after an update of kubuntu 13.04 alpha to beta and instead it redirects me to lightdm? | 20:52 |
| murthy | starbuck: come to #ubuntu+1 | 20:59 |
| murthy | apachelogger: about the microblog applet bug, using queuedconnection crashes plasma and when using blockedqueuedconnection plasma-desktop hangs | 21:01 |
| apachelogger | cool | 21:16 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: As lord king of multimedia, I ask you ... should we be aiming at gstreamer0.10 or gstreamer1.0 this cycle? | 21:55 |
| ScottK | gstreamer0.10-qapt and kubuntu-restricted-extras both suggest we ought to do something perhaps. | 21:56 |
| murthy | who is lord king of multimedia ? | 21:59 |
| sreich | how does one know which version of kubuntu they're using? | 22:04 |
| murthy | sreich: can you come to #kubuntu ? | 22:06 |
| lordievader | sreich: lsb_release -a | 22:07 |
| murthy | lordievader: ty | 22:08 |
| ScottK | Doing networkmanagement. | 22:10 |
| hanning | hi | 22:18 |
| hanning | what happened to oneiric on the backports? | 22:18 |
| hanning | according to some sites, i should be able to find amarok 2.5 there | 22:19 |
| ScottK | oneiric is pretty old. You might consider updating. | 22:19 |
| ScottK | It goes out of support next month. | 22:19 |
| ScottK | If you upgrade to 12.04 (precise) it has amarok 2.5. | 22:20 |
| hanning | i think i spent nearly 1000hrs to modify lubuntu for my htpc-needs, upgrading (reinstalling lubuntu) would be a nightmare | 22:20 |
| ScottK | upgrading and reinstalling are two different things. | 22:21 |
| ScottK | After next month you'll have no more security support on oneiric, so you really will need to upgrade. | 22:21 |
| hanning | as far as i know one cannot update ubuntu without running into problems | 22:21 |
| ScottK | 12.04 is supported for 5 years, so once you've done that, you won't have to again for a long time. | 22:22 |
| hanning | hm | 22:22 |
| * ScottK has systems that have been upgraded from 7.10 to 12.04 incrementally without problems. | 22:22 | |
| hanning | what exactly does "supported" mean? i am specifically trying to get the latest qt, to get amarok 2.7 running | 22:23 |
| ScottK | In any case, you might find it in a PPA somewhere, but the official answer is use 12.04. | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: 0.10, note however that it can potentially cause problems if half the system is on gst1 and the kde part on 0.10 | 22:23 |
| ScottK | Supported in this case mostly means gets security fixes. | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | i.e. if both are loaded in the same app -> kaboom | 22:23 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: OK. Thanks. | 22:23 |
| ScottK | But if you want amarok 2.7 and the latest Qt, you really should run the latest release. 13.04 when it comes out next month will have amarok 2.7. | 22:24 |
| hanning | hm is 13.04 an LTS? | 22:24 |
| ScottK | No. | 22:25 |
| ScottK | LTS are every two years. | 22:25 |
| hanning | oh alright | 22:25 |
| * ScottK needs to go. Good luck. | 22:25 | |
| hanning | thansk scott | 22:25 |
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