[00:00] <ScottK> shadeslayer: We want the latest git, don't we?
[00:00] <ScottK> So I'm confused.
[00:00] <shadeslayer> hmm, true enough
[00:01] <shadeslayer> from what I read on the ML, all kio-mtp bugs are now fixed
[00:02] <shadeslayer> ScottK: uploaded
[00:02] <ScottK> THanks.
[00:02] <ScottK> Yep.  THat's why I suggested updating.
[01:14] <valorie> since I got updates a few days ago, the screenlocker no longer works
[01:15] <valorie> love the screenlocker; where to file the bug?
[02:13] <ScottK> b.k.o
[02:13] <smartboyhw> ?
[02:18]  * valorie is in the midst of listening to the meeting
[02:18] <valorie> so far, great!
[02:20] <valorie> \o/ for shirts
[02:20] <valorie> boo for no fezzes
[02:43] <valorie> I loved it
[02:44] <valorie> sure hope I can get mumble working before the next one 
[02:44] <valorie> I think the mp3 link should be on the etherpad
[02:44] <valorie> and/or wiki page
[07:32] <test> Hi there, I just updated Kubuntu Quantal to Raring and after user login XServer immediately crashes - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618592/  any idea?
[07:42] <valorie> oooo
[07:44] <test> hi valorie
[07:44] <valorie> hi test
[07:44] <test> well, starting over with precise install
[07:45] <valorie> sorry, not a developer so I don't know, but I'm planning to upgrade at least one if not two computers to test the upgrade
[07:45] <test> since there's no alternate installer for quantal or raring
[07:45] <test> and encryption doesn't work customized 
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
=== jacky- is now known as jacky
[08:46] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:03] <Mamarok> test: make sure you have kde-workspace-randr
[09:03] <test> Mamarok: yes, have it
[09:03] <Mamarok> likely a packaging error, but I thought that was fixed. How did you upgrade?
[09:03] <test> do-release-upgrade -d
[09:04] <Mamarok> right, but you must have some missing package somewhere
[09:05] <Mamarok> try to look for other missing packages in kde-workspace
[09:05] <test> well, wiped it and did another install from 12.04 since there's no alternate installer anymore
[09:06] <Mamarok> why 12.04? That is old, you should at least have 1.10 by now
[09:06] <Mamarok> 12.10
[09:06] <test> no alternate installer since 12.10
[09:07] <Mamarok> why do you need the alternate installer?
[09:07] <test> for manually setting the encrypted partitions
[09:08] <test> the desktop install can neither activated existing encrypted partitions and even creating new ones makes it fail
[09:08] <Mamarok> encrypted how?
[09:09] <test> what do you mean how?
[09:09] <yofel> encrypted LVM
[09:09] <test> no lvm
[09:09] <yofel> ubiquity's manual partitioner can't do that yet
[09:09] <yofel> ah
[09:09] <test> I don't like lvm
[09:10] <test> (1) start installer
[09:10] <test> (2) select to manually partition the disk
[09:10] <test> (3) create a partition
[09:10] <test> (4) select it to be encrypted
[09:10] <test> --> error regarding encryption keys$
[09:10] <test> also when you have ssd, you want to adjust the cryptsetup payload from default
[09:10] <test> so you could ctrl-alt-f2
[09:11] <test> and issue:  cryptsetup luksFormat --align-payload=8192 /dev/sda2
[09:11] <test> once done, you go back to installer and just activate that partition
[09:11] <test> that's not possible in the gui installer either
[09:13] <Mamarok> hm, that is unfortunate
[09:13] <test> so what I did now is
[09:13] <test> install from alternate 12.04
[09:13] <Mamarok> then upgrade
[09:13] <test> alter lts to normal in the /etc/update-manager/release-something-file
[09:13] <test> do-release-upgrade -d
[09:13] <test> do it a second time to update to raring
[09:14] <test> and then run tasksel to install kubuntu-dekstop
[09:14] <test> that seems now to work
[09:14] <test> before I did install kubuntu-desktop upon installtion.... but now I just did basic ubuntu install with openssh-server and no desktop
[09:14] <test> makes the do-release-upgrade faster
[09:15] <yofel> wouldn't it have been easier to install ubuntu-server 13.04?
[09:15] <yofel> that just doesn't ship a DE
[09:15] <test> didn't have an ISO by hand
[09:15] <yofel> ah ok
[09:15] <test> but its a good idea
[09:15] <test> although kernel needs then to be changed to -generic
[09:16] <yofel> that is generic these days - unless they changed it again
[09:16] <test> didn't server have a seperate kernel?
[09:16] <yofel> there was -server once, but it was merged with -generic
[09:17] <test> re-install almost done..... previously installed apps get installed and backup data pulled from local backup server
[09:17] <test> didn't know about the merge
[09:17] <test> haven't used ubuuntu server for a long time.... current servers I setup I do with debian wheezy
[09:17] <yofel> ah
[09:18] <yofel> I think we now only have -generic, -virtual and -lowlatency
[09:18] <yofel> and some rt variant
[09:18] <test> debian added a while back a nice feature to remotely reboot encrypted fileservers
[09:18] <yofel> nice
[09:18] <test> not sure if ubuntu did that also
[09:20] <test> basicaly they provide an easy way to integrate dropbear and early network start into the intiramfs and a script that does the unlocking and contiuation of boot
[09:35] <yofel> meh, I'll need to debug the tmpfs usage in the upgrade tester
[09:36] <yofel> for some reason it's not releasing memory after cleanup()
[10:20] <mitya57> hi, can anybody please look at lp:~mitya57/kubuntu-packaging/qt-lp1094360?
[10:20] <mitya57> it should fix bug 1094360
[10:20] <ubottu> bug 1094360 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "qt4 apps such as vlc: QGtkStyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme unless libgnome2-common is installed" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1094360
[12:38] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
=== mck182 is now known as mck182|lunch
=== mck182|lunch is now known as mck182
[15:32] <shadeslayer> yofel: have you ever used kvm such that any changes to the img file are non persistent?
[15:58] <yofel> shadeslayer: no, and I wouldn't know how to do that without snapshotting
[15:58] <shadeslayer> brrr
[15:59] <yofel> wth happened to grub though.
[15:59] <yofel> the OS selection suddenly has a Debian logo, and says "Kubuntu GNU/Linux"
[16:00] <shadeslayer> hahah
[16:01] <shadeslayer> We defected
[16:01] <shadeslayer> that's what happened
[16:01] <yofel> totally :D
[16:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger sekretly made the change
[16:02] <Quintasan> lol
[16:02] <shadeslayer> yofel: my upgrade failed because tmpfs says it ran out of space
[16:02] <shadeslayer> totally not true seeing how I have so much free RAM
[16:03] <yofel> tmpfs default is RAM/2
[16:03] <yofel> I have override code for that here
[16:03] <yofel> lemme commit that
[16:03] <yofel> I have issues with tmpfs not freeing memory though :S
[16:05] <yofel> shadeslayer: bzr up
[16:05] <yofel> now I'm setting it to fixed 12G
[16:05] <shadeslayer> heh
[16:05] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:06] <shadeslayer> bzr and git feel so orthogonal
[16:06] <yofel> bzr--
[16:06] <yofel> git++
[16:06] <shadeslayer> I keep doing bzr pull in bzr and git up at times
[16:06] <yofel> perfectly orthogonal
[16:07] <yofel> haha
[16:08] <shadeslayer> yofel: we should get these changes merged into lp:auto-upgrade-tester :)
[16:08] <yofel> most of them, yeah
[16:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yofel: hm?
=== murthy_ is now known as murthy
[17:16] <murthy> hello everyone
[17:17] <yofel> bah, this is too weird
[17:17] <yofel> no tmpfs for me :(
[17:17] <murthy> yofel: that means swap disabled?
[17:18] <yofel> no, when I run the upgrade tester the data in tmpfs isn't destroyed after it finishes
[17:18] <yofel> but I find no mounted tmpfs
[17:18] <murthy> daily or beta 1?
[17:18] <yofel> daily
[17:19] <yofel> now I have 7G RAM + 4G swap filled with junk
[17:19] <murthy> thats bad
[17:19] <murthy> yofel: did you confirm with other testers?
[17:20] <yofel> not yet
[17:20] <yofel> shadeslayer should try it again 
[17:20] <yofel> also new kernel in archive
[17:20]  * yofel reboots
[17:22] <yofel> ok, next try
[17:22] <murthy> new kernel? i have to test then, updating the image
[17:23] <yofel> yeah, -13
[17:24] <yofel> well, we won't need tmpfs for the production tests anyway. But it's really weird
[17:24] <murthy> ya
[18:34] <markey> apachelogger: hey, what's the state of that pGst backport?
[18:34] <markey> this streaming bug is driving me nuts
[18:34] <apachelogger> pending testing?
[18:34] <markey> ah yes, I thought that I forgot something :)
[18:35] <apachelogger> markey: bug 1115276 bug 1115270 bug 1115286 bug 1115277 bug 918688
[18:35] <ubottu> bug 1115276 in phonon-backend-gstreamer (Ubuntu Precise) "crash when gstreamer cannot be initalized" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1115276
[18:35] <ubottu> bug 1115270 in phonon-backend-gstreamer (Ubuntu Precise) "desktop file validation failure" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1115270
[18:35] <ubottu> bug 1115286 in phonon-backend-gstreamer (Ubuntu Precise) "cannot play audio cd from drive >1" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1115286
[18:35] <ubottu> bug 1115277 in phonon-backend-gstreamer (Ubuntu Precise) "waitcondition timeout too long for short samples" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1115277
[18:35] <markey> cheers
[18:35] <ubottu> bug 918688 in phonon-backend-gstreamer (Ubuntu Precise) "phonon-backend-gstreamer seems to have issues playing from http" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/918688
[18:36] <markey> how can I get the package?
[18:36] <markey> it's lost in backlog
[18:36] <apachelogger> see ScottK's comment on the bugs
[18:37] <apachelogger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[18:37] <markey> ok
[18:38] <markey> hey, just out of interest, can you point me to the commit that fixed this bug?
[18:38] <markey> streaming I mean
[18:38] <apachelogger> see git log I guess
[18:38] <apachelogger> should contain the string webkit I think
[18:39] <markey> I did. it looked like you pushed a huge bunch of commits without rebasing. or you're writing horrible commit logs in general ;)
[18:39] <apachelogger> ScottK, Riddell: bug 1156019
[18:39] <ubottu> bug 1156019 in Ubuntu "[FFe] Konversation 1.5 (pre-release)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1156019
[18:39] <apachelogger> markey: in pgst?
[18:40] <apachelogger> actually doesn't matter, maintenance branches do not get merges ^^
[18:40] <apachelogger> markey: efdc92f2de8dc47abbc5af2de9c2bcc5e6cf0200
[18:40] <markey> cheers honey
[18:41] <apachelogger> :*
[18:42] <markey> meh, I'll just build from source
[18:42] <apachelogger> markey: you'll need to use the package to verify the bugs as fixed
[18:43] <markey> right
[18:43] <markey> we can pretend I'm using it
[18:43] <apachelogger> it's about QAing the package, not some git hash ^^
[18:43] <apachelogger> yofel, shadeslayer: ddebs vs. -dbg?
[18:43] <markey> -dbg
[18:44] <apachelogger> sheytan: ping
[18:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also am I getting this right that rekonq master is actually not building at all? Oo
[18:48] <yofel> apachelogger: for PPA?
[18:48] <yofel> -dbg would be the more space efficient solution. .ddeb the easier one
[18:48]  * yofel preferst -dbg but is lazy
[18:48] <yofel> *prefers
[18:49] <apachelogger> just wondering
[18:49] <apachelogger> becuse you have a card for adding autogeneration of -dbg
[18:49] <yofel> I added that before shadeslayer added the one for ddebs
[18:57] <ScottK> apachelogger: Approved.
[18:57] <ScottK> apachelogger: Did you know there's a package in the archive called hslogger?
[18:58] <apachelogger> lol, no
[18:58] <apachelogger> !info hslogger
[18:58] <ubottu> Package hslogger does not exist in quantal
[18:58] <apachelogger> !info hslogger raring
[18:58] <ubottu> Package hslogger does not exist in raring
[18:58] <apachelogger> ScottK: ubottu doesn't either :P
[18:58] <ScottK> It's a source package name.
[18:58] <ScottK> !info libghc-hslogger-prof
[18:58] <ubottu> libghc-hslogger-prof (source: hslogger): The Haskell Logging Framework, GHC profiling libraries. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.4+dfsg1-2build2 (quantal), package size 124 kB, installed size 601 kB
[18:59] <apachelogger> ah
[18:59] <apachelogger> haskell ftw!
[19:59] <blaze> how i supposed to run qmake-qt5 in raring?
=== jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna
[20:31] <shadeslayer> blaze: just call qmake-qt5 ?
[20:31] <shadeslayer> !find qmake-qt5
[20:31] <ubottu> Package/file qmake-qt5 does not exist in quantal
[20:32] <blaze> No command 'qmake-qt5' found
[20:32] <blaze> it's installed
[20:33] <shadeslayer> !find qmake-qt5 raring
[20:33] <shadeslayer> silly bot
[20:33] <ubottu> File qmake-qt5 found in qt5-qmake
[20:33] <shadeslayer> heh fun 
[20:34] <shadeslayer> blaze: did you make sure qt5-qmake is installed?
[20:34] <blaze> sure
[20:36] <shadeslayer> can you run : dpkg -S qmake-qt5
[20:36] <blaze> here's the output of dpkg -L http://wklej.org/hash/44e300d41b2/txt/
[20:37] <murthy> its just qmake ?
[20:38] <shadeslayer> ohm
[20:38] <shadeslayer> murthy: seems so
[20:38] <shadeslayer> blaze: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmake
[20:38] <shadeslayer> that's what you want to run
[20:38] <blaze> qmake is qmake-qt4
[20:39] <shadeslayer> ahh
[20:39] <shadeslayer> blaze: can you check what ls -l /usr/bin/qmake-qt5 says
[20:40] <blaze> ls: cannot access /usr/bin/qmake-qt5: No such file or directory
[20:40] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[20:41] <shadeslayer> installed it, apparently it doesn't symlink a binary called qmake-qt5
[20:41] <murthy> ldd wont tell?
[20:42] <shadeslayer> what does ldd have to do with this 0.o
[20:42] <shadeslayer> blaze: anyway, I'm not quite sure why they don't have it, maybe worth opening a bug report?
[20:42] <murthy> shadeslayer: to know about the current qmake 
[20:43] <shadeslayer> murthy: uh, do you know what ldd does?
[20:43] <murthy> shadeslayer: shows the libraries loaded?
[20:43] <blaze> shadeslayer: here's qtchooser but it doesn't work, and yea someone already filed a bug
[20:44] <shadeslayer> awesome
[20:45] <shadeslayer> murthy: so how does that help us in checking which version of qmake does /usr/bin/qmake points to?
[20:45] <shadeslayer> /usr/bin/qmake is basically just a symlink
[20:45] <shadeslayer> and you run ls -l /usr/bin/qmake to find out which qmake it points to
[20:45] <shadeslayer> for me it's lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Mar  5 09:35 /usr/bin/qmake -> qtchooser
[20:48] <murthy> shadeslayer: i thought we would be able to find the version of qmake  if it loads any libraries with some relevant version number, it seems i am wrong, nothing regarding that is loaded
[20:49] <shadeslayer> yep, ldd is not useful at all in this situation since qtchooser will load either of the qmake's according to the settings at runtime
[20:52] <starbuck> is there any way i can find out what to do if plasma-desktop does not want to come up after an update of kubuntu 13.04 alpha to beta and instead it redirects me to lightdm?
[20:59] <murthy> starbuck: come to #ubuntu+1
[21:01] <murthy> apachelogger: about the microblog applet bug, using queuedconnection crashes plasma and when using blockedqueuedconnection plasma-desktop hangs
[21:16] <apachelogger> cool
[21:55] <ScottK> apachelogger: As lord king of multimedia, I ask you ...  should we be aiming at gstreamer0.10 or gstreamer1.0 this cycle?
[21:56] <ScottK> gstreamer0.10-qapt and kubuntu-restricted-extras both suggest we ought to do something perhaps.
[21:59] <murthy> who is lord king of multimedia ?
[22:04] <sreich> how does one know which version of kubuntu they're using?
[22:06] <murthy> sreich: can you come to  #kubuntu ?
[22:07] <lordievader> sreich: lsb_release -a
[22:08] <murthy> lordievader: ty
[22:10] <ScottK> Doing networkmanagement.
[22:18] <hanning> hi
[22:18] <hanning> what happened to oneiric on the backports?
[22:19] <hanning> according to some sites, i should be able to find amarok 2.5 there
[22:19] <ScottK> oneiric is pretty old.  You might consider updating.
[22:19] <ScottK> It goes out of support next month.
[22:20] <ScottK> If you upgrade to 12.04 (precise) it has amarok 2.5.
[22:20] <hanning> i think i spent nearly 1000hrs to modify lubuntu for my htpc-needs, upgrading (reinstalling lubuntu) would be a nightmare
[22:21] <ScottK> upgrading and reinstalling are two different things.
[22:21] <ScottK> After next month you'll have no more security support on oneiric, so you really will need to upgrade.
[22:21] <hanning> as far as i know one cannot update ubuntu without running into problems
[22:22] <ScottK> 12.04 is supported for 5 years, so once you've done that, you won't have to again for a long time.
[22:22] <hanning> hm
[22:22]  * ScottK has systems that have been upgraded from 7.10 to 12.04 incrementally without problems.
[22:23] <hanning> what exactly does "supported" mean? i am specifically trying to get the latest qt, to get amarok 2.7 running
[22:23] <ScottK> In any case, you might find it in a PPA somewhere, but the official answer is use 12.04.
[22:23] <apachelogger> ScottK: 0.10, note however that it can potentially cause problems if half the system is on gst1 and the kde part on 0.10
[22:23] <ScottK> Supported in this case mostly means gets security fixes.
[22:23] <apachelogger> i.e. if both are loaded in the same app -> kaboom
[22:23] <ScottK> apachelogger: OK.  Thanks.
[22:24] <ScottK> But if you want amarok 2.7 and the latest Qt, you really should run the latest release.  13.04 when it comes out next month will have amarok 2.7.
[22:24] <hanning> hm is 13.04 an LTS?
[22:25] <ScottK> No.
[22:25] <ScottK> LTS are every two years.
[22:25] <hanning> oh alright
[22:25]  * ScottK needs to go.  Good luck.
[22:25] <hanning> thansk scott
=== murthy is now known as murthy_