[00:08] <djjeff|bt5> I finally got the nouveau drivers to work
[00:08] <djjeff|bt5> and now my grub is in 1080p!!!!!!!!!!
[00:08] <djjeff|bt5> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
[00:09] <djjeff|bt5> shucks to not getting 3D with this driver
[00:45] <bjsnider> not sure why you need to see a grub screen
[00:47] <bjsnider> djjeff|bt5, for opengl support install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental
[02:23] <captine> so...  tried making bootable thumb drive with 13.04 daily build... didnt boot.  then burnt to DVD... still didnt burn.  this is my first time trying a development release.  is there a trick i am missing?
[02:33] <bjsnider> captine, not enough info. dmesg log and so forth would be necessary
[02:40] <captine> bjsnider, thanks.  i am on 12.04.  burnt the daily build iso to dvd as unetbootin didnt make a bootable thumb drive... neither thumb or dvd boots
[02:41] <captine> just wondering if there is a trick to installing 13.04
[02:41] <bjsnider> yeah but what happens instead of booting
[02:42] <captine> it just hangs then goes into 12.04 again
[02:48] <bjsnider> ok
[03:01] <captine> am assuming there isnt a trick to doing this?  just burn the ISO to DVD or use unetbootin to make a thumb drive...
[03:01] <captine> got the image from the daily builds location on ubuntu
[03:22] <bjsnider> captine, theoretically there's no trick, but not all of the daily spins work every day
[03:27] <captine> thanks.   am downloading a newer one to try
[03:34] <bjsnider> no guarantee a newer spin will work
[04:25] <djjeff|bt5> looks like my linux-headers are ready
[04:25] <captine> bjsnider, i hear you.  still going to try
[04:25] <djjeff|bt5> linux-headers-3.8.0-13_3.8.0-13.22_all.deb
[04:25] <djjeff|bt5> hehe
[04:25] <captine> just cannot find a nice guide on creating the bootable thumb drive from ubuntu
[04:25] <djjeff|bt5> now I can try them nvidia drivers on this new kernel
[04:41] <captine> last attempt now
[05:14] <bcbc2> on the current daily-live, /casper/vmlinuz is missing. Only /casper/vmlinuz.efi exists. Could this be causing the boot problems?
[05:18] <bcbc2> that's raring-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:23] <test> Hi there, I have problem with Kubuntu Raring login.... just right after entering user password, XServer starts to crash:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5617998
[07:25] <test> Hi there, I updated from Quantal to Raring and I can't log into KDE anmyore. It just crashes xserver
[07:27] <lunitik> test: Lots of people seem to be having issues with Kubuntu and Raring, I wish Ubuntu proper was as fun
[07:29] <lunitik> All this integration testing is making the devel branch very boring  :(
[07:29] <lunitik> Would guess the Kubuntu guys have no idea how to do integration tests  :/
[07:30] <test> lunitik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618592/
[07:30] <test> maybe that helps
[07:30] <lunitik> That and the Canonical devs prolly don't really care whether KDE breaks
[07:31] <lunitik> test: Not really, #kubuntu-devel might be able to make sense of it.
[07:38] <test> yofel_: back again?
[07:41] <lunitik> test: Most people idle on IRC all day every day or never use the protocol
[07:41] <test> no even install of precise fails
[07:42] <lunitik> test: That is why there are 1700+ people in #ubuntu but only like 20 people active even when it seems busy.
[08:03] <test> lunitik:  :(
[08:03] <test> and the kubuntu installer just sucks.... it's a pity therer's no alternative installer anymore so I have to do two release upgrades upon reinstallation
[08:06] <test> the kubuntu installer can't do manual harddisk setup with encryption....
[08:08] <lunitik> test: Honestly, while we have to put up with GTK for a while longer, I think Ubuntu will make better use of Qt than KDE does, KDE is entirely too monolithic
[08:09] <lunitik> test: I don't think the KDE vs Gnome arguments are valid anymore, Unity is exactly an attempt to put this to the side.
[08:09] <test> lunitik: I don't like Unity
[08:10] <lunitik> test: Any particular reason? I keep trying to like other things, but I just find myself configuring them to be like Unity, so I stopped trying
[08:10] <test> and I use a lot of kde apps
[08:10] <lunitik> test: Most KDE apps have GTK equivs that are at least as good... it is hard to install KDE apps outside KDE though because you end up with half the desktop for the tinyest app... it is a mess
[08:11] <test> lunitik: I started with Ubuntu... changed to Xubuntu and now I use Kubuntu
[08:11] <test> kde is one nice solution
[08:12] <lunitik> test: KDE is nice, but only if you use KDE itself... I wish it was more modular so their stuff benefited everyone
[08:12] <test> or everyone could just use kde :)
[08:12] <lunitik> test: Most GTK apps depend as little as possible, shows far better design
[08:13] <test> not necessarily
[08:13] <lunitik> test: Will never happen though because there is no rhyme or reason to KDE, no direction
[08:13] <test> whatever
[08:14] <lunitik> They kind of just look to gnome and other stuff to find more stuff to implement
[08:14] <test> does ubuntu still have an alternate installer?
[08:14] <lunitik> Actually, I don't think it does, I don't see it on cdimage.ubuntu.com
[08:15] <test> and looking for other DEs for stuff to implement is bad because ....?
[08:15] <lunitik> Of course, the more stuff KDE implement, the harder the codebase is to actually maintain...
[08:15] <test> the desktop installers just can't handle encrytpion... either you use guided with lvm and then it just sets up partitions randomly..... or you use no encryption at all
[08:15] <lunitik> ha, I love when I answer things by accident
[08:16] <test> manual - like in the alternate install - just doesn't work with encrytpion on the desktop installer
[08:16] <lunitik> test: The alternate installer is the GUI installer in TUI
[08:17] <lunitik> test: The Ubuntu installer is basically a GTK frontend to debian-installer
[08:17] <test> no, the alternate installer is debian-like
[08:17] <test> setup a vm
[08:17] <test> select for partitioning manual
[08:17] <test> and try to setup encrypted partitions
[08:17] <test> you'll fail
[08:17] <lunitik> test: I have succeeded on bare metal
[08:17] <test> ???
[08:18] <test> the desktop installer fails at that
[08:20] <lunitik> test: Neat, apt-cache show ubiquity | grep debian ... they're just throwing a GTK frontend at debian-installer, implementing whatever debian-installer has... the alternate cd's are exactly debian-installer proper
[08:21] <lunitik> There is often a feature in the debian-installer which isn't there in ubiquity
[08:22] <test> but that frontend doesn't do what the debian-installer does
[08:22] <test> test it yourself
[08:22] <test> set up a vm
[08:22] <test> make a 500MB /boot partition
[08:22] <test> and the rest should be encrypted root
[08:22] <lunitik> test: In raring it does, I haven't been around Ubuntu for a while
[08:22] <test> no, it doesn't do it
[08:22] <test> when you select manual partitioning
[08:23] <test> and then set a partition to encrypted
[08:23] <test> it freaks out
[08:23] <lunitik> test: I did it like 3 installs ago of raring
[08:23] <test> lunitik: I just tried an hour ago
[08:23] <test> did you select manual partitioning?
[08:24] <lunitik> test: yes, but I did LVM... manual is the only way to actually name the volumes
[08:24] <test> lunitik: yes, LVM works... but I don't want that
[08:25] <test> I pre-created the encrypted volume so that I can set the dm-crypt options like --aling-payload=8192
[08:25] <lunitik> ...
[08:25] <test> try manual partitioning
[08:25] <lunitik> test: I want LVM because I want to be able to manage the drives
[08:25] <test> 1x boot for 500mb, rest root... boot can't be encrypted, rest should be
[08:25] <test> you may want to
[08:25] <test> but please humour me, try the manual partitioning with encryption
[08:25] <test> and you'll see it'll fail
[08:26] <test> and when you use that lvm, you can't set payload
[08:26] <lunitik> It works with LVM, apparently not without, I'm not installing a VM setup to try
[08:26] <test> when you have SSDs, you want a higher payload
[08:27] <test> also lvm creates a swap partition which is unneeded when you have plenty of ram
[08:27] <lunitik> LVM doesn't create anything you don't want
[08:27] <lunitik> I have never tried setting payloads, though
[08:28] <test> when you use cryptsetup from the cli, you can set a lot of other options
[08:28] <test> and with the alternate install cd you can activate those pre-created volumes
[08:35] <alankila> It's good that I have a compressing filesystem because GTK+ programs vomit literally gigabytes of data to places likes .xsession-errors and .cache/gdm/session.log*
[08:35] <yofel_> test: re
[08:35] <test> yofel_: :)
[08:35] <test> you sleep long
[08:35] <yofel_> test: if you really need the debian installer, you could use ubuntu-server or the mini ISO
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[08:36] <yofel> lol no, I'm awake for 3h already
[08:36] <test> yofel: same problem... just made a fresh install
[08:37] <yofel> hm
[08:37] <test> actually weird
[08:37] <yofel> lunitik: on the gnome/KDE apps topic. The *look* problem is pretty much figured out. But gnome apps really integrate into KDE as badly as KDE apps into gnome
[08:38] <test> just right after entering user password
[08:38] <test> the cursor turned to "X" which indicated normally xserver crash, but it still loaded
[08:38] <test> let me run my -reinstall script
[08:39] <lunitik> yofel: Do not try to integrate, just use the same theme for all three (gtk2, gtk3, and qt)
[08:39] <yofel> well, that's what KDE does these days
[08:39] <yofel> oxygen, oxygen-gtk, oxygen-gtk3
[08:40] <yofel> there's nothing that prevents you from using rhythmbox in KDE or amarok in Gnome though.
[08:43] <yofel> test: does moving ~/.kde away have an effect?
[08:44] <lunitik> yofel: KDE apps are so ugly in Gnome, doesn't seem to be any way to actually set them that works either (certainly systemsettings doesn't)
[08:44] <alankila> bound to change once the new glorious qt-based unity arrives.
[08:44] <yofel> someone make a proper qt theme so they do?
[08:45] <lunitik> yofel: No point now, Ubuntu has a theme for QML which is what Qt will use for UI in the future, KDE just has to catchup.
[08:45] <lunitik> (ubuntu-ui-something-something)
[08:45] <alankila> I have mixed feelings about Qt. It has very poor support for touchpads in sense that fling gestures and pixel precise scrolling do not currently work in it, yet they do work in GTK+3
[08:45] <yofel> kde doesn't really have to catch up. They have parts of the UI in QML already. It just won't look much different from today
[08:46] <alankila> I hope that Qt grows up relative to that so that I am not forced to stick to GTK+3 when everyone else is on Qt's boat
[08:46] <lunitik> alankila: Blackberry uses Qt5 and seems to work well with touch, other products remain with Qt4 so might be sub-optimal... it mostly depends on the display server though, not the toolkit
[08:47] <alankila> touchscreen is not same thing as touchpad anyway
[08:47] <lunitik> toolkits can do some things like pixel-precise scrolling etc... but it depends what the display server understands about that
[08:47] <alankila> I just hope that scrolling will work exactly like it does in OS X. That is, to me, the most important thing. GTK+3 is very close. Qt4 is completely oblivious.
[08:48] <lunitik> alankila: Same thing as far as the UI is concerned, you probably don't like it feeling jared
[08:48] <alankila> no idea about Qt5.
[08:48] <lunitik> It is all just random input though as far as the toolkit is concerned, thing is.... Xorg sucks
[08:49] <alankila> I have no idea why you talk about the display server. Clearly it is possible with X because GTK+3 can do it. It is just different from how it used to work.
[08:49] <test> running my installs cript now
[08:50] <lunitik> Wayland and Mir are both about creating something that doesn't suck, but in X there would be like 20 handshakes back and forth to scroll a few lines... amazing it is as fast as it is, really
[08:50] <lunitik> AlanBell: GTK doesn't use X for it, it uses XCB
[08:51] <alankila> xcb is just a replacement for libx11, isn't it
[08:51] <yofel> yeah, but the kwin developer was surprised how much better the XRender backend worked after he switched the code from Xlib to XCB
[08:52] <lunitik> alankila: actually, it is replacing xlib, but is more responsive... that and XI2 are what Gnome use though, they keep moving more and more out the server to make things faster
[08:52] <alankila> what is the basis of theory? other people report that xcb code, being less optimized to hell and back, is slower, so they use x11, e.g. cairo sticks to x11 even if it has xcb backend.
[08:53] <lunitik> cairo doesn't use X11 protocol at all, the whole point of it is local 2d rendering  :/
[08:54] <alankila> of course it uses x11 protocol. it hands compositing to xrender for instance.
[08:54] <lunitik> The toolkit uses cairo though, and so we are stuck with the obnoxious chatter of X11 again, but cairo need not do that and will probably survive the move to wayland
[08:54] <alankila> I'm pretty sure some of that stuff is involved when the x server does the operation
[08:54] <lunitik> cairo doesn't do anything with X
[08:55] <lunitik> It draws 2D images locally, which the toolkit uses
[08:55] <lunitik> uses and requests*
[08:55] <lunitik> So there is some chatter with X for cairo, but only indirectly.
[08:56] <alankila> perhaps you think about cairo image surface. But there is a thing called cairo xlib surface.
[08:56] <alankila> cairo image is all about local software rendering I guess.
[08:57] <alankila> cairo has other things too, like a pdf surface. No rendering at all, I guess it vomits PDF somewhere based on what you ask cairo to do.
[08:58] <lunitik> alankila: seems you are write, that sucks
[08:58] <lunitik> (not that you are right, that it is still the case)
[08:59] <alankila> anyway I do suspect that it is this xinput2 indeed which gave ability to do nice touchpad support. For the longest time, touchpad events appeared like mouse events, movement, and scrolling by emitting button 4/5 and 6/7 clicks for vertical and horizontal
[08:59] <alankila> then apps thought mouse wheel was being turned and scrolled some good chunk as response to that because mouse wheels are like that, they don't have a lot of resolution so you have to scroll a lot
[09:00] <alankila> but now, with GTK+3, the actual scrolling gesture appears to be seen, and that means if I move my fingers just a bit, then the list I am viewing also moves just a little bit, as little as 1 pixel
[09:01] <alankila> so it is that feature that really impresses me about GTK+3 and literally makes it the best toolkit ever for me, at least on linux.
[09:02] <lunitik> alankila: yes, that is what I meant by pixel-precise... Qt implements same with setVerticalScrollMode(ScrollPerPixel); for example
[09:02] <alankila> so it is just that KDE applications do not care to program Qt to do it right?
[09:03] <lunitik> alankila: It is that this is probably something new in Qt5, as it is with GTK3
[09:04] <lunitik> alankila: You might also be correct that it just isn't implemented, idk... touch hasn't really been a consideration for more until maybe a year or two ago.
[09:05] <lunitik> s/until/than/ ... ugh, I wish I could type, my fingers have a mind of their own, makes it hard
[09:05] <alankila> nah it is ancient feature
[09:05] <alankila> there is a bug reported about this in 2009 complaining that on OS X, where native applications do "scroll per pixel", it'd be nice if Qt followed suit
[09:16] <Amelia28> Hi, is it possible that the new release from the 14th is causing kleopatra to no work bc it stopped working the same day
[09:18] <Amelia28> the 13.04beta1 release
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[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:46] <smallfoot-> How can I find out what *real* kernel I use? uname -a, shows "3.8.0-12-generic #21-Ubuntu" is that 3.8.0 or 3.8.3? Why not 3.8.3?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> smallfoot-, afaik , there is no 3.8.3
[13:50] <smallfoot-> https://www.kernel.org/
[13:51] <smallfoot-> official kernel website says there is a 3.8.3
[13:51] <smallfoot-> latest stable kernel
[13:53] <BluesKaj> well, obviously not in the repos yet ...what's the rush ?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> anyway , BBL
[13:58] <smallfoot-> bugfixes
[13:58] <smallfoot-> stability, security, curiosity
[14:03] <smallfoot-> Setting up postfix (2.10.0-2) ...
[14:03] <smallfoot-> postconf: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[14:03] <smallfoot-> dpkg: error processing postfix (--configure):
[14:04] <smallfoot-> anyone have problem updating postfix on raring?
[14:23] <LyzardKing> I just installed ubuntu 13.04 and the bluetooth indicator is not appearing on the panel.
[14:24] <LyzardKing> what can I do?
[14:29] <smallfoot-> maybe check bluetooth in control panel place
[15:41] <maxb> I'm on up-to-date quantal, and run "gksudo update-manager -d". I don't get offered an opportunity to upgrade to raring. What am I missing?
[15:47] <vooze> Have anyone gotten Cinnamon to work in Raring? I can install it fine but when i log out and it just shows an empty desktop.. Any ideas?
[15:48] <maxb> Hmm, I'm not quite sure what I did, as it included rm -rf ~/.update-manager-core, fiddling with /etc/apt/sources.list, and sudoing a different way, but some part of that resolved my problem
[15:50] <johnjohn101> cinnamon runs on ubuntu?
[15:52] <vooze> johnjohn101, yeah :) it worked fine in 12.10 and will work again, guess its because raring is still in development
[15:55] <johnjohn101> vooze: i guess i'd wait until the next version of mint, jmo.
[15:56] <ybon> Just updated Raring, and Unity seems totally broken: no launcher, no shortcut, bad screen resolution, and so on. Any one experiencing the same? Any clue?
[15:57] <vooze> johnjohn101, Yeah I figured.. Just wanted to hear if anybody had a possible solution :P
[16:01] <johnjohn101> wondering if there is a cin 1.8 beta you could try.
[16:10] <vooze> johnjohn101, good idea.. trying 1.72 now :)
[16:31] <johnjohn101> will unity next be what 13.10 (if it's called that) will ship with?
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[16:47] <Criten> Hey guys.
[16:47] <Criten>  upgraded to 13.04 a few months ago and my wifi hasn't been working since then. is this a known problem? My friend said he had to do something
[16:47] <Criten> to get it working but I can't figure it out
[16:47] <Criten> I can see the networks but it wont connect to anything
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[17:17] <murthy> hello everyone
[17:28] <maxb> Upgrade completed ... various errors, but system stayed bootable, so that's good :-)
[17:28] <maxb> Anyone else upgraded in the last few days and experienced failures upgrading gconf2 and shared-mime-info?
[17:29] <maxb> Whoa! The radeon driver appears to have improved a huge amount since quantal :-)
[17:30] <murthy> maxb: performance or stablity?
[17:30] <maxb> My desktop effects actually move at the speed they're supposed to now
[17:31] <alankila> I wish I could have working open source driver too, but ... nouveau. *sigh*
[17:32] <alankila> not wanting to knock that effort down or anything but it's so crash prone and artifacty on my hardware that ubuntu shouldn't even try to use it during installer time.
[18:35] <bjsnider> alankila, nouveau is very good on some hardware
[18:35] <bjsnider> i used it on a couple of cards and they worked fine
[18:39] <penguin42> yeh it's very hit and miss; I've got it stable on my machine at work but it took a bit of kicking
[18:49]  * penguin42 had to turn off GL effects in KDE, and it also doesn't like it if I plug in the external monitor on my desk at boot (it's fine if I plug in the external at home)
[19:31] <tigrang> Updates are giving me "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" now - is this an issue or can I ignore it?
[19:39] <bjsnider> normally that means you're missing a signing key, possibly on a 3rd party source or maybe a ppa not properly added
[19:40] <alankila> yeah would merely wish it was fine for my hardware I guess.
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[20:25] <bcurtiswx_> hmm no unity on boot in raring, after most recent update
[20:25] <bcurtiswx_> says another window manager is running when i try from command line
[20:29] <penguin42> bcurtiswx_: what does xlsclients show?
[20:31] <bcurtiswx_> penguin42, unable to open display
[20:31] <bcurtiswx_> ""
[20:31] <penguin42> bcurtiswx_: this from the same command line you're trying to start unity from?
[20:32] <bcurtiswx_> let me try it in there im in TTY1
[20:34] <bcurtiswx> penguin42, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620460/
[20:36] <penguin42> hmm I don't think any of those should be being listed as window managers - I don't think gnome-session is?
[20:37] <bcurtiswx> idk whats up
[20:42] <penguin42> try and see if a different window manager can start?
[20:43] <bcurtiswx> none can
[20:44] <penguin42> huh; I'd try killing the gnome-session - it's the only one I can think of as even a maybe, but I didn't think it should
[20:46] <bcurtiswx_> penguin42, if i echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP i get Unity
[20:46] <bcurtiswx_> but there's no Unity
[20:46] <penguin42> I'm not sure what that env actually does
[20:48] <bcurtiswx_> penguin42, when i run unity from command line I get "compiz (core) Error: Plugin 'opengl' not loaded
[20:50] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: thats what i thought
[20:50] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: using any propitiatory driver?
[20:50] <bcurtiswx_> nvidia
[20:50] <bcurtiswx_> 310 experimental
[20:51] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: nice, from where did you install?
[20:51] <bcurtiswx_> software center -> software sources -> last tab
[20:51] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: did you install from the website atleast once?
[20:51] <bcurtiswx_> nope
[20:51] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: in that case reinstall the driver
[20:51] <bcurtiswx_> i had the 313 experimental for a little while
[20:52] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: in the same setup?
[20:52] <bcurtiswx_> yeah
[20:52] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: so thats from the repositories or website?
[20:52] <bcurtiswx_> all installed from the software sources
[20:52] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: did you uninstall that the 313 stuff?
[20:53] <bcurtiswx_> if the software-sources tab didn't, then no
[20:53] <bcurtiswx_> the guest session unity runs fine
[20:54] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: can you try reinstalling the driver?
[20:55] <bcurtiswx_> murthy, says conflicts xorg-driver-binary
[20:55] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: try apt-get install -f
[20:56] <bcurtiswx_> murthy, nothin
[20:56] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: does it give an option to proceed after showing that warning
[20:56] <bcurtiswx_> no
[20:56] <bcurtiswx_> one sec tho
[20:58] <bcurtiswx_> seems maybe a DKMS didn't run or the NVIDIA install didn't grab all the required packages.. i was missing the 310-updates package
[20:58] <bcurtiswx_> installing now, will see if helps
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[21:21] <bcurtiswx_> murthy, nope
[21:22] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: can you paste the x.0.log?
[21:24] <bcurtiswx_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620617
[21:25] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: checking the log
[21:25] <bcurtiswx_> murthy, thx
[21:26] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: so installed 310 now right?
[21:26] <Kurdistan> bcurtiswx_, does not seem to be 13.04
[21:26] <bcurtiswx_> murthy, yes
[21:26] <bcurtiswx_> Kurdistan, it is
[21:26] <Kurdistan> the kernel is 3.2.* that is more 12.04.1 kernel
[21:27] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: then you haven't uninstalled the 313.26 driver properly
[21:27] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: see line number 87 in log
[21:27] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: its loading the 313.26 driver
[21:28] <bcurtiswx_> murthy, sorry it is 313 i have installed
[21:32] <bcurtiswx_> Kurdistan, build OS vs Current OS.. whats the diff?
[21:33] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: from the logs unity should be loading
[21:33] <bcurtiswx_> murthy, why isn't my desktop showing it
[21:33] <Kurdistan> bcurtiswx_, lsb_release -a can you post?
[21:34] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: there is a last option, that is to use the drivers from the website, we do that if everything fails
[21:35] <Kurdistan> bcurtiswx_, setsid unity <<-- see what happens (ctrl+alt+t)
[21:35] <bcurtiswx_> Kurdistan, lsb_release shows 13.04 and the setsid did nothing
[21:36] <Kurdistan> dconf reset -f /org/compiz/  <-- if you want to reset
[21:45] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: are you trying something? if not can you paste the output of "ldd unity" ?
[21:46] <bcurtiswx_> murthy, if it helps, the guest session shows everything fine
[21:46] <victor9098> Can anybody have a quick look in their software centre and tell if they type in "Evolution Calendar" the top result is called Evolution Calendar but 'really' is Gnome Shell when you look at the description
[21:47] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: ok, can you paste the output of that command?
[21:48] <bcurtiswx_>  well idk how it fixed itself
[21:48] <bcurtiswx_> but it's back
[21:48] <bcurtiswx_> murthy, thanks for your time
[21:49] <bcurtiswx_> Kurdistan, you too
[21:49] <murthy> bcurtiswx_: yw
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[23:35] <airlynx> I have a question about recordmydesktop packaged in Ubuntu Studio 13.04, should I ask the question here or in #ubuntustudio?
[23:35] <maxb> Hmm, I've just updated on a laptop, and the touchpad acceleration response has changed a LOT
[23:35] <maxb> It's quite weird
[23:46] <MykRobinson> afternoon
[23:46] <penguin42> evening
[23:47] <MykRobinson> looking for some help troubleshooting suspending a Lenovo Z570 laptop