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infinitypitti: The new udev-udeb has a non-udeb dependency (libacl1).08:44
infinitypitti: Either need to build it in a way to drop that dep, or we need a libacl-udeb.08:45
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infinitypitti: unping, re: udev/acl.  Uploaded a fix.10:21
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chrisccoulsoninfinity, chromium finished building on arm overnight \o/12:07
chrisccoulson(i'll try to run it later)12:08
infinitychrisccoulson: Oh, that's good news.  I just finished force-hinting the broken stack into raring, so udev/systemd could migrate, but an upload that actually builds would be FAR better. :P12:15
ogra_chrisccoulson, !12:19
infinityogra_: Don't get your hopes up, it still might not run. :P12:20
ogra_yeah12:20
ogra_but its at least one step forward12:20
ogra_i still dont get why though ... given that chromeos/chrome runs just fine so it *must* be possiblle to get it working12:21
infinityThere seems to be some serious left-hand/right-hand lack of communication there.12:21
ogra_yes12:22
infinityI don't know if jbailey still works on that, but I should talk to him about WTF is up.12:22
infinityThough, that mostly just accounts for failures to build (the right/left thing).12:22
infinityThe failures to RUN could be v8 having bugs with armhf register usage, etc.12:22
ogra_qwell, and there are Keybuk and kees too12:22
infinityUnless ChromOS is now armhf too?12:22
ogra_it is12:23
infinityAhh, so even fewer excuses now.  Lovely.12:23
ogra_i'm using their flash plugin in my ubuntu chromium all day here12:23
ogra_and i can run the whhole chromeos desktop in a window under unity too :)12:23
ogra_by just firing it up from /opt12:24
ogra_not that unity would be very useful (doesnt get along with mali drivers to use HW accel it seem ... everything else does though) or that chromeos in a window would12:25
ogra_but for laughs and testing it is fine :)12:26
jtaylorslangasek: you m-a'ed tcl recently, will you also do tk for raring?12:50
infinityjtaylor: That was xnox, actually.12:54
infinityOr maybe wookey, sponsored by xnox, looking at the changelog.12:55
xnoxthat.12:56
xnoxi guess everyone is pieced off about it, so i should multiarch tk & ship compat shell config script.12:56
jtaylorhaving tk and tcl in the same state would be good12:57
infinityThere needs to be a compat script?  What broke?12:57
jtayloras they are kind of related12:57
jtaylorjust a bad configure check in a science package12:57
xnoxinfinity: TkConfig.sh script moved from /usr/lib/ to /usr/lib/$(multiarch)12:57
xnox(and tcl)12:58
jtaylormy concern is just if I fixx it for tcl now, do I need to revisit it for tk in a few days?12:58
infinityOh.  That's arch-specific? :/12:58
xnoxinfinity: but those config scripts can totally be dpkg-architecture & call the right script.12:58
xnoxnot to break stuff that expects that config script to be there.12:59
infinityYeahp, that would work.12:59
xnoxjtaylor: well, you can totally test for tk m-a, and try that, if not try normal one, and then bail.12:59
jtaylorthats what the bad configure dos13:00
infinityI'm not sure there's any value in patching upstream sources to look for the M-A config script at all, if you're going to put the compat one in.13:01
jtaylora enormous list of possible locations it checks :)13:01
jtaylorinstead of just doing a try link13:01
* infinity gets the kernels and d-i to migrate and calls it a night.13:01
jtaylorthe simplest fix for thix package is just add --with-tcl-library=/usr/lib/$(DEB_HOST_ARCH)13:02
jtaylorbut do I need to do that for tk too in a few days or not?13:02
infinityDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH even.13:02
jtayloryes13:02
infinityBut if xnox adds the compat scripts, you don't need to change anything.13:03
infinityAnd it'll all just work again.13:03
infinityWhich seems like a whole lot less effort. :P13:03
jtaylorthe configure does not sue the script13:03
infinityOh.13:03
infinityIt's looking for the .so?13:03
jtayloryes13:03
infinityPeople who do that should be shot.13:03
infinityI'd switch to either the config script or a try link and forward it upstream, instead of adding to the brain damage.13:04
jtaylorthe funny thing is they do that too13:05
jtaylorbut only after checking for the so in the hardcoded locations13:05
jtaylorvery weird :)13:05
infinitySo, you could just delete the .so checks?13:05
infinityAlso very valid.13:05
infinityThe only argument for .so checks is if you're dlopening a hardcoded path.  Which is, in itself, wrong.13:06
infinityAt least, it's wrong if the library is on the search path, since this isn't 1975, and dlopen() is smart.13:06
jtaylorafk 15 min13:07
cjwatsonjtaylor: I'm in the process of multiarching it - was working on it end of last week13:24
jtaylork so it will be done, thanks thats all I wanted to know13:24
cjwatsonbecause it's just madness for one of tcl and tk to be multiarched and the other noe.t13:24
cjwatson*not13:24
jtayloryes I though too13:25
cjwatsonIf anyone's really desperate, my current work is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619256/13:25
cjwatsonBut I plan to get that uploaded early next week once I've prepared corresponding tcltk-defaults changes and done some testing with the ruby1.8 build13:25
guest16950hello17:09
guest16950question:17:09
guest16950ubuntu XX.04 usually gets released at the end of april17:09
guest16950but windows xp support will end at 8th of april 2014 (beginning of april)17:10
guest16950are you planning to release ubuntu 14.04 prior or on the the 8th of april ;p?17:10
guest16950probably would be a good move, wouldn't it ;)?17:11
guest16950just saying17:11
ScottKguest16950: The release date was set almost half a year ago.  It's a bit late to change it now.17:14
ogra_ScottK, really ?ho set it ?17:23
ogra_*who even17:23
* ogra_ wasnt aware we had a 14.04 date 17:23
ScottKogra_: Oh.  Sorry, I misread his comment.17:23
ogra_:)17:23
* ScottK was thinking 13.04.17:24
ogra_yeah, me too first, i had to read twice17:24
ScottKOTOH, 10.10.10 was so annoying, I'm sure I don't want to release at the start of the month.17:26
ogra_well, depends what the TB decides ... if there is actually a six month cycle before yeah ...17:27
ogra_in a rolling model two weeks dont really hurt17:27
guest16950just imagine how many users still are using windows xp ;)17:32
guest16950and on the 8th of april 2014 they have to look for a new os17:32
guest16950because ms won't provide any updates to xp any longer from that date on ;)17:33
guest16950(according to the current plan)17:33
guest16950having 14.04 ready until or on that date sounds like a good idea to me ;)17:33
guest16950btw: i really hope the following bug:17:35
guest16950https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/57804517:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 578045 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Upgrading packaged Ubuntu application unreasonably involves upgrading entire OS" [High,In progress]17:35
guest16950will be fixed until then ;)17:35
ScottKogra_: I hope the discussion at the TB will coalesce around Mark's latest proposal.  It seemed generally reasonable to me.17:44
ogra_well, i dont know how much rick wants to still push his proposal ... so we'll see17:44
ogra_but yeah, marks is definitely sensible17:45
slangasekjtaylor: no, I didn't :)17:52
jtaylorslangasek: found the "culprit" already17:53
jtaylorbut you are wookey on oftc or?17:53
ScottKjtaylor: He's vorlon on oftc.18:00
jtayloroh18:01
jtaylorsorry, mixed that up18:01
slangasekyes, wookey is wookey everywhere18:01
penguin42it's the only name he has18:16
jcastroIf there's a backport request that deals with a major bug in a package with a fix I need to ping .... ?18:25
jcastrocan someone fill in the blank for me?18:25
ScottKjcastro: With a package that's already been backported?18:27
jcastroI don't think it's been backported yet18:27
ScottKjcastro: It kind of depends on the specifics.18:27
jcastrohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/precise-backports/+bug/109505618:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1095056 in Quantal Backports "Please backport rkhunter 1.4.0-2 (universe) from raring" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:27
jcastrois the bug in question18:27
jcastrosomeone pinged me about it, seems like there's a fix available, I just need to know what the next step is18:28
jcastrogetting people to test the backport?18:28
ScottKSomeone needs to test unhide and unhide.rb with it.18:29
ScottKIf those work, then it can be backported.  Feel free to ping me and I'll do it if no one else is around.  Laney or micahg could too.18:30
jcastrook, I'll get the guy to post his findings on the bug18:30
jcastrothanks!18:30
ScottKYou're welcome.18:31
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