| ScottK | Then I'd write the list. Phil is generally helpful. | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| jtaylor | wrote a mail | 00:58 |
| jtaylor | I'm a bit surprised pyqt 4.10 spreads so fast | 01:02 |
| jtaylor | there are bugs popping up everywhere | 01:02 |
| jtaylor | (many version string related) | 01:03 |
| jtaylor | but its only released since two weeks :O | 01:03 |
| jtaylor | its not really a package you tend to follow upstream, you usually use what the distributions provides | 01:03 |
| ScottK | Not if you're on Windows or Mac. | 02:13 |
| TheLordOfTime | this is a question i have. Can I create a 'stable' and 'testing' (Debian) pbuilder environment within Ubuntu? | 03:44 |
| TheLordOfTime | purely curious, because this would allow me to do cross-distro packaging testing. | 03:44 |
| ScottK | TheLordOfTime: Yes. | 04:12 |
| TheLordOfTime | ScottK: cool, that should make things easier when i'm having to build-test bugfixed packages across ubuntu releases as well as in Debian. :) | 04:14 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| === jacky- is now known as jacky | ||
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| jtaylor | hm | 12:45 |
| jtaylor | why did tcl get multiarched after ffe without fixing its rdepends? :/ | 12:45 |
| jtaylor | ok the thing I'm loking at now (scilab) failed before too, maybe it was overlooked) | 12:49 |
| haikong | hi,i am new here | 13:02 |
| jtaylor | hi | 13:04 |
| haikong | i just use ubuntu for half a year.Someone can show me how to establish wifi to share with my friends? | 13:07 |
| tumbleweed | jtaylor: presumably that still has to happen. I assume you saw the discussion in -devel a day or two ago | 14:09 |
| tumbleweed | ah, you did | 14:10 |
| jtaylor | no I didn't | 14:11 |
| jtaylor | hm why a would i386 build not get a rpath to libjvm.so but amd64 does | 14:11 |
| jtaylor | ah it uses uname -m which does not work in a chroot | 14:36 |
| jtaylor | whats the best way to get 64 or 32 bit that does not use dpkg-architecture? | 14:37 |
| tumbleweed | if uname -m doesn't work, then you probably aren't doing your chroot properly. that's what linux32/setarch is for | 14:46 |
| jtaylor | hm how do I do that with pbuilder? | 14:47 |
| tumbleweed | (precise-i386)stefanor@purcell:/$ uname -m | 14:49 |
| tumbleweed | i686 | 14:49 |
| tumbleweed | ah, pbuilder documentation seems to say run "linux32 pbuilder ..." | 14:49 |
| jtaylor | yes | 14:50 |
| jtaylor | I'm sure to forget it if I dont have it my rc :/ | 14:51 |
| tumbleweed | how about running linux32 inside the chroot? it lets you specify a wrapper, doesn' tit? | 14:53 |
| jtaylor | ok so I think I fixed scilab | 14:57 |
| jtaylor | but thing of the port is ugly but only required for matlab 4 (from 1994) | 14:58 |
| jtaylor | doing it properly probably needs change of api so should be done by upstream | 14:58 |
| jtaylor | acceptable for raring for now I think | 14:59 |
| tumbleweed | yay? | 14:59 |
| foxx | question, does anyone else feel that bugs.launchpad.net is really unusable, in comparison with something like github? obviously, they have two very different end goals, but launchpad feels very messy imho | 18:11 |
| hyperair | foxx: i don't. in fact, i feel github issues are really messy and unusable. | 18:15 |
| hyperair | for one, it doesn't have any proper support for setting bug severities -- it only has tags. | 18:15 |
| hyperair | what exactly is unusable about bugs.launchpad.net anyway? | 18:16 |
| foxx | that's a good point.. the lack of in-depth issue tracking / severities. but tags can be used to some extent to replace that.. (obviously in a VERY basic format.. no where near suitable for any larger scale project) | 18:16 |
| maxb | Launchpad is aimed at the complexities and nuances of projects as complicated as a whole Linux distribution. Github's issue tracker..... isn't, and it really shows | 18:16 |
| foxx | i think the issues page on github is great for small one off projects.. anything else larger, i persnally use JIRA | 18:16 |
| hyperair | JIRA actually looks pretty okay | 18:17 |
| hyperair | i haven't used it personally though. only poked the REST api | 18:17 |
| foxx | its great, but managing it is almost a full time job in itself | 18:17 |
| foxx | very quickly becomes a monster etc | 18:17 |
| hyperair | ugh. | 18:17 |
| hyperair | how about something like redmine? | 18:17 |
| foxx | hyperair: to answer your question tho, i found just browsing launchpad troublesome.. there's a *lot* of links all over the place, no consistent font sizes / layout etc | 18:17 |
| hyperair | no consistent font sizes? where? | 18:18 |
| foxx | imo, the feature set is brilliant, but the design lets it down.. at least for me anyway | 18:18 |
| hyperair | it looks consistent to me | 18:18 |
| foxx | font sizes, take the comments discussion for example | 18:18 |
| foxx | looking at a large convo on there is a strain on the eyes | 18:18 |
| hyperair | umm, that's just normal monospaced font. | 18:18 |
| hyperair | any programmer ought to be used to monospaced font by now. | 18:19 |
| foxx | yeah, but in comparison with the discussion style used on github.. id say github one looks nicer | 18:19 |
| hyperair | that's rather subjective. | 18:19 |
| foxx | of course.. give me sublime and a monospaced font, and ill rewrite the world and make it pretty at the same time lol. but thats one page i personally feel could do with a nicer design | 18:19 |
| hyperair | i like plain text. | 18:19 |
| foxx | yeah, i think you're right tbh, personal preference etc | 18:20 |
| hyperair | the difference between launchpad's bug comments and github's is the markdown support | 18:20 |
| hyperair | which leads to the difference between text and html mail | 18:20 |
| foxx | heh, well how about this for a contradiction.. i absolutely hate html mail | 18:20 |
| hyperair | but you like non-monospaced, formatted text. | 18:21 |
| hyperair | hmm. | 18:21 |
| hyperair | very weird | 18:21 |
| hyperair | here's a question -- do you have the ubuntu set of fonts installed? | 18:21 |
| foxx | lol, yes my mom used to say that to me a lot ;P | 18:21 |
| foxx | totally honest, i didnt even know ubuntu had its own set of fonts :/ | 18:22 |
| hyperair | there's Ubuntu and Ubuntu Mono | 18:22 |
| foxx | and shamefully, i use windows | 18:22 |
| hyperair | Ubuntu is the variable-width, sans-serif one. | 18:22 |
| hyperair | Ubuntu Mono is the monospaced one | 18:22 |
| ScottK | foxx: I think most developers read LP bugs via mail anyway, so the web presentation doesn't matter much. | 18:22 |
| hyperair | and they're both pretty beautiful | 18:22 |
| foxx | installing now | 18:22 |
| ScottK | Also, there's #launchpad where this is probably more on topic. | 18:23 |
| foxx | ScottK: ah, didnt realise they had their own channel. ty :) | 18:23 |
| foxx | well ill be damned | 18:24 |
| foxx | hyperair: that actually looks a lot better with that font | 18:24 |
| foxx | still not sure about the 10px fonts at the top, but a much better improvement. ty | 18:24 |
| hyperair | :) | 18:25 |
| hyperair | i use Ubuntu Mono for coding. | 18:26 |
| foxx | i use consolas, as it was the only decent mono windows font | 18:26 |
| hyperair | what i really like is that Ubuntu Mono is slightly narrower than the other monospace fonts, so i can fit 80 chars in width into two panes side by side. | 18:26 |
| foxx | just tried ubuntu mono on sublime for windows... it doesnt play nicely sadly.. too much padding at top and bottom | 18:27 |
| hyperair | plus a bit more for line numbers, pane separator, and the 80th column marker line | 18:27 |
| hyperair | hmm pity. | 18:27 |
| foxx | i assume its not meant to look like this; http://i.imgur.com/BYYOqXU.png?1 | 18:28 |
| foxx | guess that'll serve me right for using windows lol | 18:32 |
| foxx | does anyone know of any reason why dput/mini-dinstall would show a message about not having a source override entry? the package seems to have uploaded correctly, but that message has made me curious. here is the log http://pastebin.com/sgjC4Avm . there was also some discussion in here about it before here; http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/03/16/%23ubuntu-motu.html . apparently it should be | 18:57 |
| foxx | quiet about it unless there is a problem.. but im not sure what the problem is :X | 18:57 |
| maxb | foxx: overrides are data used by the archive admins of a distribution to control and organize the archive. It's probably a bit silly for *mini*-dinstall to even be trying to implement them. Personally I prefer reprepro for my server-side repository management, so I don't use mini-dinstall any more. | 19:48 |
| foxx | hmm, i had a shot at using reprepro, but it wasn't able to handle multiple package versions, which was a no go for me.. can i ask why you chose reprepro? | 19:51 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| ESphynx | xnox: ping | 20:24 |
| ESphynx | I'd have some fixes if you haven't reviewed anything yet =) | 20:24 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
