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gebbionehi all how do i check in a shell if statement if an argument exists in a safe way00:06
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redtape-renegadeMorning, I'm in bed and no I don't like Felines !07:32
MartijnVdSredtape-renegade: but they love you!07:43
redtape-renegadejoin #freegamer08:21
TheOpenSourcererMorning everyone - happy Super Saturday08:37
redtape-renegadeThe rugby ? Who playin' , TheOpenSourcerer ??08:46
* redtape-renegade realises Angleterre is one.08:47
TheOpenSourcererIt's Super Saturday - All three final matches of the 6 Nations08:48
redtape-renegade.. Hav IRL played Italy yet ?08:48
TheOpenSourcererredtape-renegade: http://www.rbs6nations.com/en/matchcentre/match-centre_fixtures-results.php08:48
redtape-renegadeopening..08:48
redtape-renegade[ Round 508:49
redtape-renegadeSat 16th Mar 1314:30Italy  v  IrelandStadio Olimpico ]] :)08:49
TheOpenSourcererAnd the current table: http://www.rbs6nations.com/en/match-centre_table.php08:50
redtape-renegadeopening...08:50
TheOpenSourcererA Cracking final day has been set up. France must try to stop getting the Wooden Spoon (and not winning a single match).08:51
TheOpenSourcererWales must beat England by 8 points to win the tournament08:51
TheOpenSourcererIf England win against Wales they do the Grand Slam08:51
redtape-renegadeI thought IRL were going to the grandslam ?08:52
TheOpenSourcererlol08:52
MartijnVdSI thought "grand slam" was a tennis thing?08:52
TheOpenSourcererIt just means winning all the matches in a group of them.08:53
redtape-renegadeMartijnVdS, Shut up this is a proper sport.08:53
redtape-renegadeTheOpenSourcerer, I don't get [ Pos08:54
redtape-renegadeTeam08:54
redtape-renegadeP08:54
redtape-renegadeW08:54
redtape-renegadeD08:54
redtape-renegadeL08:54
redtape-renegadeF08:54
redtape-renegadeA08:54
redtape-renegadePD08:54
redtape-renegadeTF08:55
redtape-renegadePt ]08:55
redtape-renegadewoops.08:55
TheOpenSourcererP - Played08:55
TheOpenSourcererW - Won08:55
TheOpenSourcererD - Drawn08:55
TheOpenSourcererL - Lord08:55
TheOpenSourcererF - Ponts For08:55
TheOpenSourcererA - Points Against08:55
TheOpenSourcererPD - Points Difference08:56
TheOpenSourcererTF - Tries For08:56
TheOpenSourcererPts Points08:56
TheOpenSourcererL - Lots08:56
TheOpenSourcerergah08:56
TheOpenSourcererL - Lost08:56
redtape-renegadeAhh .. So IRL can't be beat for the Grand Slam, then .. Have they  won it before since 1983 ?08:57
TheOpenSourcererDunno try Google.08:57
* redtape-renegade scans lmgtfy08:58
kvarleyStruggling to setup an email server on a real domain, anybody have experience doing this and can guide me through?08:59
redtape-renegade.. No they haven't NEWSFLASH ..  This is the 1st time in Rugby history, that they'll win it.08:59
TheOpenSourcererredtape-renegade: Ireland *cannot* do the Grand Slam. They have only won 1 game this tournament. The *only* team that can do the Grand Slam this year is England09:00
redtape-renegadeOh , www.96fm.ie/boxtube/default was wrong then .. Propaganda -ho !09:02
redtape-renegade.. they keep changing their story .. like Scarecrow Man. [!!]09:07
* redtape-renegade has a cup a Marvelous 'Lift' Red berry Cordial drink from Tresco.09:09
* redtape-renegade got TheOpenSourcerer 's tweet this 'morning .. and agrees.09:11
redtape-renegadeDoes TheOpenSourcerer want acouple of Kubuntu pen's . I've got 00's ??09:14
TheOpenSourcererNo thanks.09:14
redtape-renegade**100's .. Oh. very well.09:14
redtape-renegade'Jacques Brunel' [Italy coach ] .. such an unfortunate name.09:18
redtape-renegade" Pengui-l " . means ' french-twerp'.. Prob.ly why Linux Penguin will never take off there.09:21
redtape-renegadeMeanwhile in Laaaaandon .. [ http://t.co/7bAChFl2hK ]09:24
shaunopenngwyn means white head, but it's not slowed the UK down09:25
redtape-renegadeshauno, Morning .. You going here at all ?? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1484095571/the-nerdtacular-2013-fan-event09:27
redtape-renegadeshauno, S. Pats icon is on the www.96fm.ie .. Any thing happening in your area this weekend ?09:34
kvarleyRecommended email hosts?09:40
ali1234mailinator09:41
redtape-renegadekvarley, mailchimp.09:44
redtape-renegadekvarley, ^ https://twitter.com/MailChimp ^09:48
redtape-renegadeFFoxy available now in Irish ,,, :: : http://t.co/pQm07dVKde09:59
redtape-renegade^ ** :: bit.ly/RFo8Wy10:00
redtape-renegade** www.bit.ly/RFo8Wy10:00
popeymorning10:10
redtape-renegadeEver been to Gibralta popey ? .. saw this is registered there :: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/flirt-planet-the-next-level?i=mabl10:11
popeynope10:12
redtape-renegadeI got it off here BTW :; http://blog.indiegogo.com/2013/03/team-indiegogos-campaign-roundup-31513.html10:12
redtape-renegadepopey, Am I doing it, again ?10:13
MartijnVdSredtape-renegade: this is not #linkdump :P10:15
* redtape-renegade kills himself with Salt.10:15
popeythats a weird campaign10:17
popeythey claim they have the game working but want collaboration10:18
popeybut they don't say how you collaborate10:18
popeyjust that giving them money is somehow collaborating10:18
jacobwMorning10:27
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Guest81041top of the morning ta ya10:28
jacobwThe morning is top10:31
brobostigongood morning everyone,10:55
jacobwYo brobostigon11:05
brobostigonmorning jacobw11:06
MartijnVdSOld! :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjDSY8LczFw11:11
jacobwMartijnVdS: Oh dera11:13
shaunowhy does unicode in python always end up making me feel like a 5-year-old13:00
redtape-renegadetry www.realpython.com . The book is free if you want it from me. Although the forum is middling quality.13:02
directhexshauno, because python is a language for 5 year olds?13:03
* directhex flees13:03
shaunoI keep trying, and I keep ending up back with php, which is even more painful to admit13:04
redtape-renegadeshauno, Did you try the webLink13:05
redtape-renegadeshauno,          ^ ??13:06
shaunono, because it's easier to just rewrite it in a language that has strings, than to read a book about it :/13:06
redtape-renegadeWell, why the heck are you asking, when you don't follow my advice ??13:07
* redtape-renegade Grumbles.13:07
kvarleyAnybody know what kernel version ipv6 support got introduced as mainstream?13:10
shaunoit's not exact, but a ballpark from tldp; Note: you shouldn't anymore use kernel series 2.2.x, because it's not IPv6-up-to-date anymore. Also the IPv6 support in series 2.4.x is no longer improved according to definitions in latest RFCs. It's recommend to use series 2.6.x now.13:13
kvarleyThanks shauno13:16
redtape-renegadeApparently, were all supposed to be on 3.8.x now :::: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#Timeline13:21
MartijnVdSgood :)13:36
redtape-renegadeMartijnVdS, What be good ?13:38
MartijnVdSthat we're supposed to use a modern kernel13:39
redtape-renegade:) Oh for a second, I thought you were typing about the Sky's pope former address'  ::: http://goo.gl/ca5nt13:45
kvarleyGetting awful network performance on LM13:46
redtape-renegadekvarley, I would use kernel 2.5.75 BTW13:48
kvarleyredtape-renegade: Doesn't seem to be ipv6 at all, I have disabled it and am still getting awful performance13:50
redtape-renegadekvarley, You don have pdns set up don't you ? ::: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59366/protecting-against-infinitely-slow-dns-servers/59406#5940613:52
redtape-renegade**pdnsd13:52
kvarleyOn transfers tho the speed is slow, so that means it's not DNS  right?13:54
kvarleyStrange, there are problems for the RTL8111/8168B chipset on Linux Mint but not Ubuntu. How does that work?14:06
* redtape-renegade hoover's.14:06
kvarleyHow can I stop Linux from loading the incorrect module for my ethernet chipset?14:08
kvarleyIt loads r8169 not r816814:08
redtape-renegadekvarley, Well my tech says the kernel that I said earlier works fine on his server.. that's all I got for you today, apologies.  QUESTION::: Has the match with England started yet ?14:14
redtape-renegadekvarley, dunno if you got that: S0oo .. I'll repost it.14:19
redtape-renegadekvarley, Well my tech guy says the kernel that I said earlier works fine on his server.. that's all I got for you today, apologies.  QUESTION::: Has the match with England started yet ?14:19
redtape-renegadekvarley, Your connection is all over the place BTWay.14:20
kvarleyredtape-renegade: I know it's looking like an actual connection issue to me now14:25
redtape-renegadeWELL  if you don't use BIND9 which is in the software centre .. sudo apt-get install bind9  I can't help you.14:27
redtape-renegadeCALAV3RA, , Your connection is all over the place BTWay. Too.14:30
* redtape-renegade takes photo's for the Williams Doc.ods14:31
redtape-renegadeI looking for new digs.14:32
redtape-renegadeI've tried to call the removal men on T:07624 240024 but they just take mesages | no removals = no moulin rouge.14:34
redtape-renegadeItaly 3 : Ireland 3 .. Come on /Italians/14:52
redtape-renegadeItaly 6 : Ireland 3 .. there you go !!14:54
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redtape-renegadeBAD news if you have a cypuot bank a/c :: European officials said people owning more money will lose 9.9 percent. Cypriot bank officials said that depositors can access all their money except the amount set by the levy.  :: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/16/3289677/cypriots-rue-bailout-deals-bank.html#storylink=cpy  ::::http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/16/3289677/cypriots-rue-bailout-deals-bank.html    , soz for caps.15:06
redtape-renegadeWeb Link :: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/16/3289677/cypriots-rue-bailout-deals-bank.html15:07
kvarleyIs it bad if I just get an SSL certificate for domain.com and just redirect www.domain.com to domain.com ?16:05
dwatkinskvarley: the certificate will either be for a specific hostname or a wildcard, *.domain.com16:11
kvarleyBut is it bad to redirect www to a non-www domain just to give the user SSL16:14
dwatkinsgmail does a redirect a bit like that16:15
kvarleyIs it possible to have multiple vhosts with SSL enabled? I'm getting redirected to the incorrect vhost currently16:20
kvarleyAh, it's 1 IP per SSL vhost16:29
popeypip pip16:51
brobostigonlets see who wins, relax with beer, and watch rugby,16:53
redtape-renegadeNice tweet about that indiegogo campaign popey : Quite odd.16:55
popeyvery16:56
redtape-renegadeDidn't see the video .. did it have a giraffe and bromance in it ?16:56
popeyhah16:57
redtape-renegadeBetter than the gayball on at 5pm !16:59
* redtape-renegade wonders over to /. ::: http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/03/16/144247/why-trolls-win-with-toxic-comments?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter17:07
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redtape-renegadehaha .. Italy 22 | Ireland 15 .. told you :p18:58
redtape-renegadeDid you all watch Red Nose Day ??    ....  http://twitpic.com/catgiv19:02
brian_Hey guys. I've been unable to set up rules which allow me to access the internet using my VPN and only my VPN.19:19
brian_Could anyone help me?19:19
brian_I have GUFW and I've set a rule which enables me to connect to the VPN (To [IP] [Port]/udp, Allow Out, From Anywhere)19:20
brian_Then I followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149647319:21
brian_Allow In Both To (Your IP, that you collected from whatismyip.com19:21
brian_Allow Out Both From (The same IP again)19:21
brian_I'm still completely unable to connect to websites when I reject outgoing connections by default.19:22
brian_I'm using Ubuntu 12.1019:22
DJonesHeh, Spot the Welshman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFgDDFpCYAAb-Mg.jpg:large19:39
AlanBellevening all19:46
AlanBelldo I want a wii u?19:46
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penguin42AlanBell: No19:59
redtape-renegadeAlanBell, You keep asking that: only the handset :S20:06
AlanBellkids were asking again20:09
redtape-renegadeAlanBell> do I want a wii u? NO You were asking !  . AGAIN20:10
AlanBell:)20:10
AlanBellit got cheaper recently20:11
redtape-renegadeWee all know Nintendo is the Marijana of Vita ! What's next the Easter Bunny ?  :O20:13
redtape-renegadehttp://www.duracelldirect.co.uk/pno/bth0001a.html20:14
SuperEngineer Topic for #ubuntu-uk-meeting is: Next Meeting 16th Feb 20:00 UK Time... lol20:16
penguin42SuperEngineer: It might be right20:16
redtape-renegadeWhat channel is it on ?20:16
SuperEngineerpenguin42: but you ain't there either20:17
SuperEngineeri travelled back in time especially to check ;)20:18
penguin42SuperEngineer: Hmm that ability could be very useful20:20
penguin42SuperEngineer: Please pass on my apologies20:20
* AlanBell fixes20:54
AlanBellkinda20:54
AlanBellI do have to sort out the Bletchley park thing, that would be cool20:54
SuperEngineerAlanBell: ;)20:58
* penguin42 went a couple of years ago - definitely worth it (conveniently near a train station)20:59
penguin42https://plus.google.com/photos/118251468822440261663/albums/5492401778142755041   are my pictures from it21:01
* redtape-renegade eats his free KFChicken.. Scrumptuous !21:09
redtape-renegadeI'm just using Xubuntu as a client , but I dont know how to set preferences for changing the default Browser to Chromium .. Do you know how to do this ?21:51
redtape-renegadeseen shauno?22:17
redtape-renegade!seen shauno?22:17
lubotu3I have no seen command22:17

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